Million Dollar Listing LA - General Discussion

[bichonblitz]

On 9/3/2021 at 7:44 AM, LennieBriscoe said:

I don't much care for the  creepy Tracy Boy-Toy storyline. 

Me, either. Really, with all her money and success she's settled for a trainer that's 20 yrs younger?  I wish they would keep him off camera. I have a feeling we're going to get much more into all of their personal lives this season than actual real estate porn which is what the show was originally intended for.

Fredrik has become a cartoon character of his once awesome self. Derek may be losing his patience and although I'm not a fan of his I can understand getting tired of Fred. 

Altman is losing his asshole edge, too bad. Don't we watch for the asshole factor? Now he's just happy suburban husband and daddy. Bore. 

Flagg is playing up his eccentric side, I wish they (producers) would just let him be himself which is plenty good enough. He was always entertaining, now they are going to ruin it with exaggeration. 

[readheaded]

19 hours ago, Stan39 said:

I’m not sure I understand your logic here. You’re argument is that the term has racist and sexist roots, that’s your language. “Roots” means the word was founded with that intention in mind. Based on that article the word was not chosen with racist or sexist undertones. To say that a term has its roots in something because today’s connotations means something else isn’t fair or accurate. If you want to change the name I’m fine with that, but unless you find any evidence to support it actually originating or being used with racial or sexist undertones I’m not really sure what you’re arguing. You want the term to have meant something for the past 100 years because now we view it differently?

Anyway, I think the article also points out there are greater (and still more direct) examples of racism in the housing market. Redlining is a prime example. I get it, we’ll just say “primary bedroom” from now on and it’s fine. It just seems odd and superficial to focus on words that don’t mean what people think they do rather than address actual issues in the market. 

Actually, I used the term "roots."

I'll never apologize for not using terms that may be offensive or hurtful even if other people find it silly or unnecessary.

Changing language norms to help change culture isn't mutually exclusive with addressing larger issues. Sometimes, though, changing language can help change the larger issues by helping people think about history and culture in a new way.

1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

Me, either. Really, with all her money and success she's settled for a trainer that's 20 yrs younger?  I wish they would keep him off camera. I have a feeling we're going to get much more into all of their personal lives this season than actual real estate porn which is what the show was originally intended for.

Fredrik has become a cartoon character of his once awesome self. Derek may be losing his patience and although I'm not a fan of his I can understand getting tired of Fred. 

Altman is losing his asshole edge, too bad. Don't we watch for the asshole factor? Now he's just happy suburban husband and daddy. Bore. 

Flagg is playing up his eccentric side, I wish they (producers) would just let him be himself which is plenty good enough. He was always entertaining, now they are going to ruin it with exaggeration. 

I don't want to see any more of Tracy's love life than we see or have seen of the males' on the show. 

[LennieBriscoe]

5 hours ago, readheaded said:

Actually, I used the term "roots."

I'll never apologize for not using terms that may be offensive or hurtful even if other people find it silly or unnecessary.

Changing language norms to help change culture isn't mutually exclusive with addressing larger issues. Sometimes, though, changing language can help change the larger issues by helping people think about history and culture in a new way.

I don't want to see any more of Tracy's love life than we see or have seen of the males' on the show. 

Well, we have seen episodes with the guys and their SOs, so there's  that.

[readheaded]

13 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

Well, we have seen episodes with the guys and their SOs, so there's  that.

Yes, and that's great; I like seeing a little bit of their families and backstories. What I'd rather not see is a "Darcey & Stacey" like storyline for Tracy (or anyone) on the show. And, I particularly don't want to see it for Tracy or any female agent on the show because I don't want the only female agent's storyline reduced to her dating life.

Edited September 7, 2021 by readheaded

[SilverLake0315]

On 9/6/2021 at 12:21 PM, bichonblitz said:

Altman is losing his asshole edge, too bad. Don't we watch for the asshole factor?

I prefer the new Altman. I love his friendship with Flagg. I hated Altman before. Not in a "love to hate him" way, but in a "why did they add this asshole" way.

[TheLastKidPicked]

On 9/7/2021 at 10:34 AM, SilverLake0315 said:

I prefer the new Altman. I love his friendship with Flagg. I hated Altman before.

I agree!  And people on this board who are parents actually predicted that Altman having kids would change him for the better.

 

[CrazyInAlabama]

I had to laugh at the rerun showing the issues with working at home.    Altman asking the kid who's the best real estate agent, and hearing Mommy, and then asking who sells more, and the kid answers Daddy.     Then, James, doing a video call, and the wife and daughters are dancing, and the dog is right beside him on the couch, licking itself.  

Edited September 13, 2021 by CrazyInAlabama

[SunnyBeBe]

How old is Tracy?  Could she possibly be that clueless with technology?  Has she no experience with Zoom?  Hard to believe.  Maybe, she relies on her assistant a lot, so is not familiar with it.  

[CrazyInAlabama]

I really enjoyed the negotiating with Altman and Flagg, and the accepted offers.     I really liked Flagg and the client at the photo shoot. 

Tracy's Zoom call was hysterical, and the one buyer backing out was so strange.    I suspect that buyer found something else they liked better, and not because it made him feel claustrophic.     Since Tracy's business used to be in person showings, open houses, broker's opens, and mostly handled by her staff of agents and assistants, and with a lot of other things handled with emails, and phone calls, I can imagine that Zoom calls were new to her.     Maybe she did some Face Time or other one-on-one communication, but I bet she did most stuff in person.    

Edited September 10, 2021 by CrazyInAlabama

[MsTree]

That seller was ridiculous! There's no way in hell I'd ever buy a 6 million dollar property without seeing it in person. Even with the contingency...because why waste time.

 

[SunnyBeBe]

19 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I really enjoyed the negotiating with Altman and Flagg, and the accepted offers.     I really liked Flagg and the client at the photo shoot. 

Tracy's Zoom call was hysterical, and the one buyer backing out was so strange.    I suspect that buyer found something else they liked better, and not because it made him feel claustrophic.     Since Tracy's business used to be in person showings, open houses, broker's opens, and mostly handled by her staff of agents and assistants, and with a lot of other things handled with emails, and phone calls, I can imagine that Zoom calls were new to her.     Maybe she did some Face Time or other one-on-one communication, but I bet she did most stuff in person.    

Maybe so.  In my state, since covid, all of our Real Estate broker classes, even for continuing education, are done online, mostly on Zoom.  
 

It would have made sense for Tracy’s client to have leased short term elsewhere, so people could tour her house, but I get her trepidation. At one point LA had very high covid rates.  I’m not sure when this was filmed. I didn’t see many masks.  

Edited September 10, 2021 by SunnyBeBe

[howiveaddict]

I would watch a show that comprises only of Josh Flagg showing old Hollywood homes including their history.  I admit I google some of these homes because they seem so spectacular.   I also look them up on google maps.  Better yet, someone fly me to LA and let me hang out with Josh. He seems to get along well with his elders, so we would have a great time. Loved his banter with the Nicky lady who he toured that house with.

[lynxfx]

Flagg's client was a hoot. Just what is in the walls of that house? Josh showed that they were over at least a foot thick. Lots of insulation, money, hookers?

Altman's continued to be a stuckup ass, but glad that sold so we don't have to deal with him again.

Tracy's client was once again unreasonable and condescending every time she spoke to Tracy. Despite the six figure commissions they are getting, they really are treated like crap by over half the sellers they represent. 

Then again the 6% (buyer/seller) commissions are a dieing concept, at least for your average home. I see real estate agents becoming obsolete for most home buying and selling in the future. You already have companies like Redfin charging flat fees vs high percentages. Maybe it will just be the high-end properties that can still justify a well versed agent to sell and claim those big bucks.

[Stan39]

I like the houses so far this season, with Josh’s being the best. And, while I like the BTS of the cast, I in no way buy their “common man” problems. James and his wife do well enough that I’m sure they have at least one office/converted bedroom so that James isn’t working on a laptop in the living room. Or Josh and Heather have a big enough house that they’re not “crammed” next to each other in the kitchen on dueling phones. Tracy’s zoom call was funny, but that seemed staged too. But at this point I’ll take it. 
 

Agree that Altman has mellowed with kids. I also think it’s a result of him getting seniority with Flagg on this show. I re-binged this whole show last year and there’s one season where Altman is so aggressive and abrasive it’s revolting. James seems to be following in that mold to an extent. While not as abrasive, I have noticed that James is now the one who takes opportunities to blow up incidents and fight in group settings. I agree what Fredrik did was dumb, but James could have pulled him for a private conversation before screaming in front of everyone. Though, admittedly, that was staged as even James’ wife was laughing in that scene. Lol. 
 

Oh, random, but I just saw Mark Davis’ plans for his house. It’s hideous, but I instantly thought, “This is going to be the new big, white, box.” What do y’all think? Maybe the angles won’t work for most lots. 
 

https://nypost.com/2021/09/02/mark-daviss-building-14m-mansion-that-looks-like-team-facility/

[Surrealist]

13 hours ago, lynxfx said:

Then again the 6% (buyer/seller) commissions are a dieing concept, at least for your average home. I see real estate agents becoming obsolete for most home buying and selling in the future. You already have companies like Redfin charging flat fees vs high percentages. Maybe it will just be the high-end properties that can still justify a well versed agent to sell and claim those big bucks.

I've been wondering about the same thing. 

As an aside, Redfin is my preferred app for looking at house porn.

[lynxfx]

5 hours ago, Stan39 said:

I re-binged this whole show last year and there’s one season where Altman is so aggressive and abrasive it’s revolting.

Altman came in cosplaying Ari Gold from Entourage. Definitely mellowed after marriage and kids.

[Stan39]

1 hour ago, lynxfx said:

Altman came in cosplaying Ari Gold from Entourage. Definitely mellowed after marriage and kids.

Yeah. He was actually worse than Ari. I Ari always yelled out of exasperation and used cursing as humor. Altman straight up went after people and attacked them. There’s even a subplot I had forgotten where he tried to get Heather to give up her career. 

[oakville]

6 hours ago, lynxfx said:

Altman came in cosplaying Ari Gold from Entourage. Definitely mellowed after marriage and kids.

Didn't Altman represent a property that was owned by Mark Wahlberg from Entourage ?

It was a property that was used as the inspiration for the show.

[lynxfx]

21 minutes ago, oakville said:

Didn't Altman represent a property that was owned by Mark Wahlberg from Entourage ?

It was a property that was used as the inspiration for the show.

Yup, a season or 2 ago. I don't remember what happened to that one.

[RunningMarket]

Add me to the chorus of "who would have thunk I'd like Altman?" He's definitely mellowed, and I love his man-crush on Flagg. Speaking of Flagg, he has such respect for the history of the houses and such in-depth knowledge of the original architects. I want a spin off of him and Nicky!

My personal experience is that those who have a lot of assistants who do a lot of the basic grunt work are completely incapable of working technology on their own - so I buy that Tracy really did have issues with Zoom.

Definitely calling out the shenanigans of James (?) not having a private space to work. Sure, Jan. Or James, in this case.

[sheetmoss]

Curious - featured house with lower-level/basement ...how is it done? I believe  basements aren't common in  California homes, 

When they do have one, is there an excavation  like here in the Midwest,  do they raise the lot land up around a LL/basement - or are they carved out of a slopped lot for a walkout?

 

[TheLastKidPicked]

10 hours ago, sheetmoss said:

Curious - featured house with lower-level/basement ...how is it done? I believe  basements aren't common in  California homes, 

 

I'm also curious.  Wasn't there a comment two season ago where the contractor said,

"The excavation alone cost a million dollars."

[Diane Mars]

14 hours ago, sheetmoss said:

Curious - featured house with lower-level/basement ...how is it done? I believe  basements aren't common in  California homes, 

When they do have one, is there an excavation  like here in the Midwest,  do they raise the lot land up around a LL/basement - or are they carved out of a slopped lot for a walkout?

 

You dig a big hole in the ground and go from there :)

[CrazyInAlabama]

Remember the expansionist soil home from this last season?   They had to jack it up, and put helical (or whatever it is) pillars, and then fill in under it?   That's because when expansionist soil gets very wet, it swells up.     That one they had to remove and fill in the swimming pool, because it was breaking loose from the hillside, and on it's way down hill.   So, it was cheaper to remove and fill in the pool, than to fix it.      The houses on the hilltop can have that issue. 

It was very expensive to fix the expansionist soil foundation, and it's not permanent (where I lived in Colorado they had it too).    So, I can believe how much it was to carve out the foundation, and stabilize soil to build.    

I'm not sure a lot of the house buyers on this show even think about earthquakes, or wildfires, or anything but impressing others with how much money they spend.   

Edited September 16, 2021 by CrazyInAlabama

[SimonSeymour]

I’m curious about the white brick house that James and David sold in the previous episode. I was under the impression that brick houses don’t do well in earthquakes, and that’s why there are so few brick homes in California?

[MsTree]

14 hours ago, Pegasaurus said:

Agree. Personally, I see nothing wrong with the term "master bedroom, master bath, etc".  Nor do I see an issue with Masters Degree, master lock, master mind, Master Sergeant, to name a few.  The elimination of the term "master", used for a certain area of a home, is just more nonsense brought to us by the Woke & Offended. 

Absolutely agree. And at the rate the W&O are going, we'll be down to "me Tarzan, you Jane" in no time, as they continue to eliminate words 🙄 ...because being offended is totally subjective.

[UsernameFatigue]

I loved this episode. Great properties, the realtors getting along and the focus on selling, rather than home life. That said though, I would watch a whole episode of just Bobby and Tracy's dog. I hope by the end of the season the caption will read "Josh and Bobby's dog" as I am sure puppy gets way more attention there than with Tracy and her kids.

I love that Josh Flagg is so honest with his clients. While the yard was fabulous, that mid century modern house really was an eye sore. I didn't understand why the client would not even entertain the developer's offer, as Josh said he wanted to gut the house, which to me means he wants to re do the inside. Josh didn't say that the developer wanted to tear it down. 

Frederick and Altman imitating each other was pretty funny. I must say though I prefer Fredrick's approach to showing a house, rather than Altman's which often consists of using outdated catch words and phrases. Altman often comes off as sounding "dope"-y. 

 

[Stan39]

14 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I loved this episode. Great properties, the realtors getting along and the focus on selling, rather than home life. That said though, I would watch a whole episode of just Bobby and Tracy's dog. I hope by the end of the season the caption will read "Josh and Bobby's dog" as I am sure puppy gets way more attention there than with Tracy and her kids.

I love that Josh Flagg is so honest with his clients. While the yard was fabulous, that mid century modern house really was an eye sore. I didn't understand why the client would not even entertain the developer's offer, as Josh said he wanted to gut the house, which to me means he wants to re do the inside. Josh didn't say that the developer wanted to tear it down. 

Frederick and Altman imitating each other was pretty funny. I must say though I prefer Fredrick's approach to showing a house, rather than Altman's which often consists of using outdated catch words and phrases. Altman often comes off as sounding "dope"-y. 

 

There always seem to be sellers who “care” who buys the house. To me it doesn’t make much sense. Once she sells the house does she plan on coming back and visiting? I understand the nostalgia and emotional connection to a home, but if you’re not there to see what is done to a house after you leave why care? I also think it’s weird that how much they “care” about the house depends on how much money they’re offered. If she got full ask I wonder if she would have sold. 
 

Gotta admit, so far Fredrik hasn’t been a distraction. I haven’t watched MDLNY in years, but he’s toned down a lot of his behavior and doesn’t seem to want to fight with the other realtors. He’s also been surprisingly humble and willing to listen. So far. It seems like the rest of the cast don’t like him so maybe he dones something later that’s awful. 

[CrazyInAlabama]

I loved the montage of Flagg's past assistants.     Fredrik's co-list with Altman is a bizarre case of seller delusion.    If I was in the market for a house like that, I would walk out after I saw the purple marble bathroom, and orange island.    They should stage the place, and sell the furniture in there off.   Requiring the buyer to pay for the giant furniture, I guess the buyer could sell the furniture.   Altman is making me not like the house.   He needs to dial it down a lot.    So, I see Tracy's dog still is at Flagg's house.   The dog is so cute with Bobby.  

I wish they would stop showing the preview for Tracy's listing over and over.  How can the seller expect people to buy a house without going through it?   Removing contengencies is fianancial stupidity.   Why is Tracy wearing a giant shawl, with the slit up to her butt?   

Flagg's home  seller saying she wants $3.5 million because she likes the number is so ridiculous.  Trying to limit who buys it is guaranteeing that she won't get $3.5.    I would tear that house down, and put up something bigger, 3 or 4 bed, 3 bath, and a better floor plan.    That house would cost so much to redo, but you still have the bad floor plan.     The seller might want to look at what the actual time on market, and selling prices for houses owned by Sinatra, and others.  I don't remember reading about a single Rat Pack house that sold anywhere near asking, and many took years and multiple price reductions to sell. 

Edited September 18, 2021 by CrazyInAlabama

[Cheezwiz]

Super late to the party, as I've only watched Million Dollar Listing NY in the distant past, but I'm surprised at how much I've enjoyed the couple of episodes I've watched of this series.

Visually it's much more interesting than Selling Sunset - the only other LA based realty show I've seen. The properties featured are much more varied, and not limited to the usual concrete and glass boxes that are so ubiquitous in LA.

I was expecting Josh Flagg to be a twerp, but I now have mad respect for his interest and knowledge of heritage architecture. That home that once belonged to Diane Keaton was stunning. Echoing posters previously upthread - if I had a boatload of cash to spend on a Southern California abode, I'd definitely pick him as a realtor. And yeah, if he did a show on historic properties, featuring  drop-in appearances with some of his daffy Hollywood doyenne pals, I'd watch the hell out that thing!

I like what I've seen of Tracy so far. I'm an Xer who uses Zoom all the time for work, yet still can't get the hang of hosting, so I bought that she couldn't work it - she probably has minions do that for her most of the time.

I actually used to enjoy Frederik on the NY series, so I'm surprised he seems so awkward and out of his depth in LA.

[bichonblitz]

1 hour ago, Cheezwiz said:

I was expecting Josh Flagg to be a twerp, but I now have mad respect for his interest and knowledge of heritage architecture

I also love his knowledge of the LA area. He seems to know every street in that city and the back story on every home on each street. He amazes me. A kid born and raised in LA, born in to money and a family with all the right connections. He is one lucky guy.  

[Cheezwiz]

52 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

I also love his knowledge of the LA area. He seems to know every street in that city and the back story on every home on each street. He amazes me.

I was pleasantly surprised and read up on him a little bit. He started in real estate at 18 (no doubt via family connections, but still). He could have just coasted on his family's money, but started hustling at a young age. Through the  close relationship he had with his grandma - who herself had a fascinating life story - it also sounds like he has an innate respect and affection for older people. It's a delight to see someone that young, have such a strong interest in old buildings and heritage architecture. Not your garden variety trust fund kid - he'd be an amazing tour guide to LA, and should consider a show or book or something. Colour me impressed.

[Stan39]

18 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I loved the montage of Flagg's past assistants.     Fredrik's co-list with Altman is a bizarre case of seller delusion.    If I was in the market for a house like that, I would walk out after I saw the purple marble bathroom, and orange island.    They should stage the place, and sell the furniture in there off.   Requiring the buyer to pay for the giant furniture, I guess the buyer could sell the furniture.   Altman is making me not like the house.   He needs to dial it down a lot.    So, I see Tracy's dog still is at Flagg's house.   The dog is so cute with Bobby.  

I wish they would stop showing the preview for Tracy's listing over and over.  How can the seller expect people to buy a house without going through it?   Removing contengencies is fianancial stupidity.   Why is Tracy wearing a giant shawl, with the slit up to her butt?   

Flagg's home  seller saying she wants $3.5 million because she likes the number is so ridiculous.  Trying to limit who buys it is guaranteeing that she won't get $3.5.    I would tear that house down, and put up something bigger, 3 or 4 bed, 3 bath, and a better floor plan.    That house would cost so much to redo, but you still have the bad floor plan.     The seller might want to look at what the actual time on market, and selling prices for houses owned by Sinatra, and others.  I don't remember reading about a single Rat Pack house that sold anywhere near asking. 

It will be interesting if the show filmed during the recent crazy real estate boom. If so, “no contingencies” won’t be that uncommon. It would be fun to show properties getting 20-30 offers, all above ask, with no contingencies or inspections. I also wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of houses are selling sight unseen. 

[amarante]

On 9/17/2021 at 9:54 AM, UsernameFatigue said:

 

I love that Josh Flagg is so honest with his clients. While the yard was fabulous, that mid century modern house really was an eye sore. I didn't understand why the client would not even entertain the developer's offer, as Josh said he wanted to gut the house, which to me means he wants to re do the inside. Josh didn't say that the developer wanted to tear it down. 

 

 

The house would be a tear down because a larger house that was more suited to what people want would be built. The house was only two bedrooms and had a small kitchen.

It simply isn't appealing to any segment of market. People who want a mid century modern home wouldn't find it appealing because it wasn't a particularly good example of that genre. It was just a builder grade home that was built in 1952. 

A few seasons ago, either Flagg or Altmann had a fantastic MCM home in Holmby Hills that had been lovingly restored by the owners. That home had no problem being sold because it was gorgeous and it wasn't a "shack" on a $3 million lot which is essentially what the current house was. 

I think most homes with basements in Los Angeles are built on hilly lots so that the basement is only a "basement" on one side that is basically built into the hillside. 

[Cheyanne11]

On 9/17/2021 at 11:55 AM, CrazyInAlabama said:

How can the seller expect people to buy a house without going through it? 

Especially eyerolling because she said it was because of Covid, and yet she hugged Tracey when she came to see her. 

That house Freiderik and Altman co-listed is ugly.  All that hideous wallpaper, that orange kitchen, the overly marbled bathroom.  Yikes.  And while yes, Altman has mellowed, I still find him too far up his own ass.

I really enjoy Flagg because he's very knowledgeable about older homes--the architecture, their history. 

[Stan39]

It’s too bad this wasn’t filmed in real time and viewers knew to go vote for Josh or Fredrik for best style. Because I would have happily written in “Enes Yilmazer” lol

[UsernameFatigue]

21 hours ago, amarante said:

The house would be a tear down because a larger house that was more suited to what people want would be built. The house was only two bedrooms and had a small kitchen.

It simply isn't appealing to any segment of market. People who want a mid century modern home wouldn't find it appealing because it wasn't a particularly good example of that genre. It was just a builder grade home that was built in 1952. 

A few seasons ago, either Flagg or Altmann had a fantastic MCM home in Holmby Hills that had been lovingly restored by the owners. That home had no problem being sold because it was gorgeous and it wasn't a "shack" on a $3 million lot which is essentially what the current house was. 

I think most homes with basements in Los Angeles are built on hilly lots so that the basement is only a "basement" on one side that is basically built into the hillside. 

Oh, I am quite aware that the house should be a tear down. My point was that Josh said the developer wanted to gut it, which at least where I live does not mean the same thing as tear down. 

My grandmother's house, which would have been a tear down if not for its heritage designation, has been essentially gutted on the inside, retaining some of its unique features but totally renovated and updated.  It is absolutely gorgeous inside, and from the outside still retains its 1910 charm. That is what gutting means to me. However if the owner of Josh's listing thinks she will find someone who will not touch the inside, she is delusional. It has no charm, what so ever. 

Edited September 19, 2021 by UsernameFatigue

[amarante]

2 hours ago, UsernameFatigue said:

Oh, I am quite aware that the house should be a tear down. My point was that Josh said the developer wanted to gut it, which at least where I live does not mean the same thing as tear down. 

My grandmother's house, which would have been a tear down if not for its heritage designation, has been essentially gutted on the inside, retaining some of its unique features but totally renovated and updated.  It is absolutely gorgeous inside, and from the outside still retains its 1910 charm. That is what gutting means to me. However if the owner of Josh's listing thinks she will find someone who will not touch the inside, she is delusional. It has no charm, what so ever. 

Not to belabor but in the context of the show - the location and what the market place is in Los Angeles, I understood Josh to mean it would be a complete tear down. The footprint of the house wasn't large enough and the exterior wasn't particularly attractive. There simply isn't a market for someone who would spend $3.5 million and then have to live with that house. I am not sure how you would even enforce that kind of covenant since it would have to run with the land and be recorded to be enforceable. 

In my personal experience, any older home in Los Angeles in a desirable area is a complete tear down unless it is truly architecturally desirable. There are some neighborhoods in LA in which you need to preserve the exterior completely and there are even a few in which the interior has to be preserved. In Pasadena, there was a huge scandal when a developer removed all of the interior finishes in a Greene & Greene home because the value of them sold individual surpassed the actual value of the home. You can't do that in Pasadena any longer. And as I recall there are some areas near the West Adams district of historic homes which also require preservation of the interior finishes. Obviously the exteriors all have to be preserved and anything done that shows on the exterior including doors, windows and paint color needs to be approved. 

[Grrarrggh]

On 9/17/2021 at 1:13 PM, Stan39 said:

There always seem to be sellers who “care” who buys the house. To me it doesn’t make much sense. Once she sells the house does she plan on coming back and visiting? 

I can definitely understand caring about a house you don't live in anymore. Mostly though its because I don't want to see design and architecture deleted from human memory by open concept white/grey boxes. 

[dleighg]

4 minutes ago, Grrarrggh said:

I can definitely understand caring about a house you don't live in anymore. Mostly though its because I don't want to see design and architecture deleted from human memory by open concept white/grey boxes

sure, but her house was not all that great. I'm sentimental and all, but it doesn't really make much sense for that house. It was nothing special.

[Stan39]

46 minutes ago, dleighg said:

sure, but her house was not all that great. I'm sentimental and all, but it doesn't really make much sense for that house. It was nothing special.

And she’s never going to see the house again. She lives at the beach. And even if she wants to drive past it again it’s probably in a secluded area. It’s one thing if it’s in your neighborhood and you pass by it. Hell, they could just tell her they’re not tearing it down, then tear it down, and she’ll probably never know. And, as I said, if they pay more then suddenly she’s less sentimental. 

[Surrealist]

49 minutes ago, dleighg said:

sure, but her house was not all that great. I'm sentimental and all, but it doesn't really make much sense for that house. It was nothing special.

Her house was ugly and dated.

The yard, however? Fantastic.

[CrazyInAlabama]

I was surprised to see David and James that angry, they usually seem a lot calmer, even when they disagree.     I loved the house they were selling, very traditional.   However, $10 million is over priced.   $9.45 milion is still a great price, and I'm glad it's sold. 

Flagg's buyer was so lucky to find anyone that wanted to keep the house.   I hope she realizes that anyone who buys the house can't be stopped from bulldozing it the next day.   $3 million was a good price.   So, that's really Flagg's dog isn't it?  Not Tracy's dog. 

If Fredrik's (Dolph Lundgren's house) didn't have the telephone pole there, it wouldn't be for less than $4 million. 

 

[ChelleGame]

That telephone pole at Dolph's house was so unfortunate. Horrible placement.

We're in the middle of an LA house hunt and it's nuts here right now. Just batshit bananas.

That Hancock Park house is on my exercise route. It's so pretty. It was on the market a long time but a gorgeous house. 

The white box houses are a plague. They ruined the 90048 zip code, and a ton of them are just sitting empty.  The latest building trend is the Chip & JoJo farmhouse style.  Those won't age well here either.

We get a real estate update every morning and every day there are pages of the white box houses but slim pickings (at least where I'm focused) on Spanish, Tudor, Colonial, French Normandy, Georgian or anything traditional.

I like the realtors on this show (new to the series) and it's a great variety in real estate. Even if I'm not seeing in person, it's nice to see it here.

[Cheyanne11]

19 hours ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

So, that's really Flagg's dog isn't it?  Not Tracy's dog. 

He said they'd had it for 2 weeks and Tracey hadn't notice?  Ugh, if you don't notice your dog is gone for 14 days you don't deserve to be a pet owner. 

I was relieved there was no Altman this week.  I need a break from his mugging and using "dope" or "sick" every other word. 

[CrazyInAlabama]

I suspect the dog really is Bobby and Josh's dog, but the Tracy didn't notice her dog is gone was a storyline.  

[Starlight925]

On 9/24/2021 at 7:04 PM, CrazyInAlabama said:

I was surprised to see David and James that angry, they usually seem a lot calmer, even when they disagree.    

Flagg's buyer was so lucky to find anyone that wanted to keep the house.   I hope she realizes that anyone who buys the house can't be stopped from bulldozing it the next day.   $3 million was a good price.   So, that's really Flagg's dog isn't it?  Not Tracy's dog. 

David and James strike me as much as brothers as they are best friends, where they can have angry fights but get over it the next day.  I bet there's been a ton more disputes among them over the years,  but they have this unconditional love for one another that overrides any disagreements.  It's refreshing to see their relationship.

Yeah, I wonder about Flagg's home buyer, saying they love the house as is, that they'll make a few changes, but keep it as is.  Let's check it out in a year, and see if they don't bulldoze it.  What can the seller do at that point?  I never get why a seller cares.  You're moving on, what do you care?  If you're that emotionally invested, stay in it.

[readheaded]

1 hour ago, Starlight925 said:

David and James strike me as much as brothers as they are best friends, where they can have angry fights but get over it the next day.  I bet there's been a ton more disputes among them over the years,  but they have this unconditional love for one another that overrides any disagreements.  It's refreshing to see their relationship.

Yeah, I wonder about Flagg's home buyer, saying they love the house as is, that they'll make a few changes, but keep it as is.  Let's check it out in a year, and see if they don't bulldoze it.  What can the seller do at that point?  I never get why a seller cares.  You're moving on, what do you care?  If you're that emotionally invested, stay in it.

I wondered about that, too, especially when their agent said he knew the seller didn't want the house to be torn down. That's pretty valuable information since the buyer could say they don't want to tear it down, offer a lower price because they're claiming to keep it intact, get a great deal, and then tear it down, anyway.

There's also a huge amount of privilege involved if a person can forego that much money in a house sale just because she wants the house not to be torn down. I think most people who've ever bought and sold a home need to get as much out of the sale as possible to finance the next home purchase or do other things with that money.

[Stan39]

I can’t believe (but I can) Hillary was being so difficult with James and David about that house. That’s at least the second time (the first being David’s brother I believe) that the seller/buyer withheld information from D&J in an attempt to make them look “cool and tough” when really both times it just wasted everybody’s time and almost screwed over the deal. 
 

I guess the cast is too big now, so they’ll probably alternate in groups of three. This week no Altman or Tracy but it looks like next week at least Tracy is back. Her sister’s house looks gorgeous. It also reinforces that their dad is a rich billionaire and maybe they’re not as “self made” as Tracy says they are (then again, I think all the realtors on the show came from privilege despite what they claim.)

[Marley]

Hilary was so annoying.

Fredrik annoys me too. Why does he have to be on this version too. I don’t care about him or his trophy husband and trophy kids.

Not wanting the home town down us stupid. You’re selling the house it’s not yours anymore. Ppl can do whatever they want with it. Don’t sell it if you are so obsessed.

None of these ppl are self made.

Edited September 26, 2021 by Marley