S09.E01: Wives and Misdemeanors

[nexxie]

First Tamra, now Tre -  do we really need to see another lean, mean, rope-armed, spray-tanned, fake-breasted, desperate woman posing in a string bikini? Ugh.

[njbchlover]

51 minutes ago, teapot said:

Tre's eyes look black, like demonically possessed, and the skin around them is too puffy.

Gia isn't as cute as she was when she was a kid (sorry...)

I wouldn't have liked the party (is Rails the only restaurant in Jersey or something?) because I would've wanted to EAT the cake, not THROW the cake (food fights kinda just gross me out.)

No - but it is close to their homes - it's located in Towaco.  Maybe, too, it's the only one that's willing to put up with the shenanigans and be filmed.

BTW--it is an AMAZING steakhouse (expensive, though) - I've eaten there!!  

[Kdawg82]

8 minutes ago, nexxie said:

First Tamra, now Tre -  do we really need to see another lean, mean, rope-armed, spray-tanned, fake-breasted, desperate woman posing in a string bikini? Ugh.

Both women never looked bad. They've always been toned and fit. Whatever floats their boat i guess, but seeing Tree with bringing her own lettuce and chicken to a restaurant?! Couldn't live like that!  The funny part is , I don't see physical working out from Tree. She almost seems lazy about it? She's hard working around the house and all but the gym, idk. I think her good figure was always totally natural and not a thing she had to work at. 

[cheewhiz]

Something else I noticed is the slowed down walking shots of the women, kinda like Mob Wives opening...what's up with that?

[Kdawg82]

LoL maybe a slow opening so we can better see them stomping or wobbling around in their heels??!! Marge's Joe was adorable though when he held her and she said he ought to be holding her mom and he quickly replied "your heels are higher." He adores his Margie. I hate that their love story began in an affair.  Kinda shatters it for me.

[ghoulina]

3 hours ago, luckyroll3 said:

Margaret was doing entirely too much this episode.  Did we really need to see her and Joe waking up naked in bed with the results of her full smokey-eye and lashes makeup tutorial and them in the shower?  Or hear her make bad innuendos about "needing coffee with cream, but not that cream <wink, wink>"?  Ugh!  Was she that annoying last season?  I really don't remember her being that awful, but then again, she could have been overshadowed by Soggy who was an absolute narcissistic nightmare.  

I really liked Margaret last season, but I feel the same as you now. Maybe it was just the newness of her, amongst all these stale chicks?

 

51 minutes ago, sATL said:

Did we see the middle daughter- gabriella? She looks the most like Joe. Gia being 17 is drama all by herself.

Kudos for whichever daughter rode the good  old yellow bus to school. Usually RHO* kids get chauffeured to a fancy private school.

I think it has been said that Gabriella doesn't like to film. If they're honoring her wishes and allowing her to remain off camera, I do have some level of respect for that.

[RedheadZombie]

1 hour ago, sATL said:

Did we see the middle daughter- gabriella? She looks the most like Joe. Gia being 17 is drama all by herself.

Kudos for whichever daughter rode the good  old yellow bus to school. Usually RHO* kids get chauffeured to a fancy private school.

I think it was only Audriana catching the bus.  She also looks more like Joe than Tre, in my opinion. 

[AuntieDiane6]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

 

5 hours ago, cheewhiz said:

vag rejuvenation...gross and unnecessary for me to see.

Every single housewife show has one of these scenes, like it is mandatory. Ick.

 

DEAR YOUNG & RESTLESS, GENERAL HOSPITAL and the rest of America's Soap Operas,

I would like to apologize to you.  I used to think you were boring because of all the same storylines.  I thought these reality shows were so much more interesting because they document how the rich REALLY live.  lnstead, all we get are endless facelifts, divorces, bickering lunches and dinners at some of the nation's nicest restaurants.  And Victor and Nikki Newman are a LOT MORE INTERESTING than virtually all of the sad cast of New Jersey.  

Love, AuntieDiane

[FairyDusted]

@AuntieDiane6 It's funny that you brought up the soaps. I thought about Jeanne Cooper (Katherine Chancellor) this week on the OC while they were showing face surgery. Pack it up Ladies Jeanne did it long ago! 

[TattleTeeny]

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Dolores and her husband/not husband. Just what in the eff is going on with these two? He is a low life swine but I'm assuming he's still paying her bills so this is why she's still tied to him? It can't be any other reason. 

Well, they do have kids (and a business?) and they seem to get along well enough as friends, so I don't really see a big deal about it. 

[kicksave]

19 hours ago, dosodog said:

I like Margaret’s Joe.  I believe him when he says she is beautiful and doesn't need surgery.

I could, however, do without the shower scenes.

Ugh...what a free loading slacker this guy is...he’s a contractor that never seems to be working at all let alone on the house they live in. What a mess.

I forgot how trashy these women are...they don’t need to remind me they are Italian from Jersey...got it.

[bichonblitz]

43 minutes ago, TattleTeeny said:

Well, they do have kids (and a business?) and they seem to get along well enough as friends, so I don't really see a big deal about it. 

I think It's a big deal because she has a boyfriend. The kids are grown and gone. I didn't say they shouldn't be friends at all. They should not be living together if Dolores really wants to move on with her life and boyfriend.

It's also a big deal (to me) because they keep shoving it down our throats that they are living together, ex's, get along, blah blah. They did it last season, I don't want to have to see that every episode again because these two are boring but I have a feeling we will because Dolores' bestie is no longer around (thank god) and Delores has no story line other than her disbarred ex living with her. 

[Kdawg82]

2 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

It's also a big deal (to me) because they keep shoving it down our throats that they are living together, ex's, get along, blah blah.

I think they maybe were on the verge of getting back together.  She said this episode he earned back 100% of her trust but then the disbarment . I think that took away all possibility of being together again romantically but she's not ready to let go fully. Their chemistry is palpable, so I figure this dashed Frank's chances. He states things like "we'll be okay. I'm not worried" b/c he's not getting younger, Delores has the Bravo $ now, and not many women may want him now with this public humiliation.  JMO.

[b2H]

I should tune in just once to see Tre's kids - remembering in earlier seasons when they were little and wanting to see how they've grown.

I've all but given up on the RH franchise.  Watching 50 yo women screaming at each other non-stop for an hour (including the commercials) just doesn't do it for me.  There's no redeeming value in any of them and it's not even good house or travel porn anymore as it's ruined with all the hysteria and made-up drama.

[sATL]

2 hours ago, Kdawg82 said:

Both women never looked bad. They've always been toned and fit. Whatever floats their boat i guess, but seeing Tree with bringing her own lettuce and chicken to a restaurant?! Couldn't live like that!  The funny part is , I don't see physical working out from Tree. She almost seems lazy about it? She's hard working around the house and all but the gym, idk. I think her good figure was always totally natural and not a thing she had to work at. 

 I'm guessing that gym scene was just for filming. When she was doing the lat pulldown machine - she only had about 20 lbs. I was thinking just how many reps/sets is she going to do get to a body building level? I would have loved her to see her do hard cardio - I can't picture her doing treadmill at level 5-6 (10-12 min mile) with an incline for 30 minutes.

Now her bringing up Joe not wanting her to do body building does have a whole new meaning now. He is a mens facility  where there is no conjugal visits, right ? Therefore the men are,  lets just say "making do with what that have at their disposal". So if/when another inmate sees a pix of Tre in her boby building outfit - that is bound to start something unpleasant with Joe.

Edited November 8, 2018 by sATL

[TattleTeeny]

21 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

I think It's a big deal because she has a boyfriend. The kids are grown and gone. I didn't say they shouldn't be friends at all. They should not be living together if Dolores really wants to move on with her life and boyfriend.

It's also a big deal (to me) because they keep shoving it down our throats that they are living together, ex's, get along, blah blah. They did it last season, I don't want to have to see that every episode again because these two are boring but I have a feeling we will because Dolores' bestie is no longer around (thank god) and Delores has no story line other than her disbarred ex living with her. 

I do not disagree with the second paragraph. But if her BF doesn't care, why should anyone else?

[Kdawg82]

To the above @  sATL I hate fake scenes.  Agreed I'd like to see her do hard cardio and basically what she needs to be *that* fit. And LOL I wonder what pics Joe has in his cell. Makes the mind wander but I doubt a bikini pic. Idk how long that marriage will last. But her blaming him for the entire mess is missed on me. I appreciate her airing her feelings though. 

[Kdawg82]

I go back and forth with "the Marge." I found her likeable in her first season. The problem is social media and all the accessibility of these individuals to get people's feedback and likes/dislikes on them. You never know how you'll come across on camera while acting "natural." Then once you find out what the public thinks your persona is, you take it and run with it and exaggerate it to the fullest to get us all buzzing. That's why the "seasoned" howives are always SO FAKE. There are scenes with newbies all produced to hell, but by 2nd season they have their refreshed tagline telling us all about them.  Marge is gross but also a little bit the devil in me. 

[sATL]

3 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

 

Dolores is such a piece of work. I can't even describe how awful she is to leech on to that scumbag ex-husband. It disgusts me to watch her chalk all of her failure to lead a disciplined and honest life as "an Italian thing." I read all 45 pages of the decision to disbar Frank Catania this morning at work, and boy, what a nightmare. Frank took money from several of his clients his clients to make payroll at his gym, among other things, and lied to the end of the earth and back  about it. He also--I find this really funny--called multiple character witnesses to the stand, one of whom is a childhood friend, whose daughter went to college with Dolores's daughter. How in the hell is that dumb broad ever going to trust a man who told all of his friends and confidantes about this, to the point where they are coming to court and testifying for him, and he left Dolores in the dark? On WWHL, Dolores chalked up Frank's failure to notify as "he took it like a man." Damn. How does one manage to offend all womenkind and all mankind in one sentence?

thanks for doing the research... 45 page decision... Good God. 

Little surprised due to the magnitude of the dollar amt/nbr of clients - he didn't have to serve time.

Edited November 8, 2018 by sATL

[Barb23]

21 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Jersey is bringing the squick factor this year. Margaret and Joe filmimg in bed and the shower. Marge Sr. getting a vaginal rejuvenation. Teresa and the gross bodybuilding stuff. Joe and his same old, perverted comments. Ew. 

Also, those fingernails on Milania? She's12. Just...no.

Frank and Dolores are as dysfunctional as ever. They do EVERYTHING together. She called him her "partner in life". But she has a boyfriend? Come on...

Boy, Melissa sure lets it out when drunk. All those comments directed at Joe. I wonder if someone is a bit more resentful of their husband than they let on.

I want to hear more about this Turkish woman, arranged marriages, chaperoned dates. 

You forgot about all the boob showing.  I am so  tired of seeing the ladies with their boobs hanging out of every outfit they wear.  None of them are attractive & the boobs hanging out doesn't help.  I feel sorry for the children, no matter what their ages. It has to be embarrassing seeing your mother like this on TV. It's the same thing with the OC ladies. 

13 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

 

Margaret's house creeps me out. It dark and dungeon like. 

I'm sure it smells pretty nasty too.

[nexxie]

18 minutes ago, Barb23 said:

You forgot about all the boob showing.  I am so  tired of seeing the ladies with their boobs hanging out of every outfit they wear.  None of them are attractive & the boobs hanging out doesn't help.  

Amen - someone please tell these women that their giant flapping old breasts aren’t cute.

[pinky33]

2 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

I do not disagree with the second paragraph. But if her BF doesn't care, why should anyone else?

Her "bf" only wants to see her once a week. It's not surprising he doesn't care. Makes me wonder what he does the other 6 days of the week....

[RHJunkie]

I got a good laugh at Dolores trying to make Frank's behaviour seem a little less horrible by making it seem like he was just borrowing his client's money and not stealing it. When you take something that doesn't belong to you and you do it without the knowledge and consent of the owner, it is called stealing baby boo, there's no dancing around that. Also, I get that she doesn't like Danielle but Danielle wasn't saying anything that wasn't wrong about Frank and even Dolores acknowledged that the news came out very publicly via Andy so Danielle repeating it is pretty useless. Dolores pretends to not like drama but look at how hyped up she got herself in anticipation of what Danielle would say to her and what she would do to react. She wanted a confrontation because she clearly had things she wanted to say to Danielle but she didn't want to be the instigator. 

How is Margaret's house still unfinished? Not sure I would be that nice to my hubby if he refused to let me hire a contractor to finish our home yet he procrastinates and forces the household to live in a 24/7 construction zone. Not cool. So over seeing these women across the franchises go get their vaginas rejuvenated. We get it. You like taking part in the latest trends...we don't need to be in the surgery room with you to recognize when you've got work done and when you get work 'down there', I'm totally okay with never knowing that you have. 

Too early to tell but it seems like Teresa and Melissa will be at it again but it seems like Joe may be the friction between the two. If the first episode is any indication, it's likely going to be an issue with Joe not being more present with their father and will escalate from there because none of them know how to manage their temper and talk things out so of course we're going to have to brace ourselves for screaming and public confrontations. 

I can't tell if Teresa is completely resentful and totally over Joe or if she intentionally preoccupies herself so that she doesn't have to to think about him and miss him. If she's over it and is leaning towards divorce, she should do it now rather than later. The closer he gets to release and the work that will be put in to help him avoid deportation is only going to make their daughters hopeful that they can somehow and someway put their family together again. The longer she waits, the more hurt those girls will be, just my opinion. 

[LibertarianSlut]

2 hours ago, sATL said:

thanks for doing the research... 45 page decision... Good God. 

Little surprised due to the magnitude of the dollar amt/nbr of clients - he didn't have to serve time.

No prob on the research. I actually had to read the decision, not the blogs, because I was at work, and it looked like a legal document that concerned my job lol. And if my boss ever needs info about "riprarian grants" in NJ , he can ask me, so you're welcome, boss! (Asshole)

But, yeah, to read all the info, this might not be over. It originated with a random audit of 2010-12, so little Frankie has been a very bad boy for a very long time. He dipped into funds he had no business touching--other people's money, basically--and when he got caught, he ginned up phony emails between himself and his client, and then Frank, his client and his client's wife all lied before the board and got caught. Frank also hired some lawyer to give expert testimony that he was basically just an idiot, not a fraud, and the board said they didn't care, because his behavior was too egregious for them to care about his intent. It seems like he committed fraud, which is also a crime, not just a reason for disbarment. I wonder if they'll go after him for that.

Call it schadenfreude, but I hope he goes down, and I hope he goes down hard. What may have offended me the most was the way Frank spoke. They put portions of the transcript in there, and the bozo couldn't form a sentence. He sounded just like Joe Gorga or Giudice. It was like, "yeah, I was understaffed at the time, I don't really remember, whatayagonnadoaboutit." Like, you're a fucking lawyer and your career is on the line. Speak proper English. There was nothing about Frank's misdeeds that had federal implications, so if this one goes to prison, it will probably be state. Heard they're not so nice there. 

And just to pivot for a moment, where does Dolores get off getting angry at Danielle for talking about it? They're not friends. There is no expectation of loyalty there. It's public record. Isn't that part and parcel of a public fallout--that people talk? And where does this public/private schism form anyway? Dolores started off the episode saying she will never forget what Danielle did all those years ago--cut to Teresa throwing a table at Danielle. What exactly is Dolores mad about with regard to "what Danielle did"? That her ex-husband wrote a book about her and everyone was talking about it? So...ok, Dolores, it's breaking all bounds of decency for Danielle to talk about your ex getting disbarred, but when Danielle's ex talks about Danielle, Danielle also did something unforgivable? Is she going to blame that lack of logical consistency on "being Italian" too? (And believe me--I have my issues with Danielle--asking for all kinds of lavish wedding parties from her co-stars in a baby voice when this is her third wedding???) But Dolores has no leg to stand on with Danielle. Way to look like a boss and basically allow her to chase you away from a table though, Dolores! 

And I have been wondering this since viewing the lukewarm season opener: why the hell didn't they open the season with the sleepover??? They filmed it, and it seems to be the source of lots of drama, yet we only get to see it in flashbacks? Duuuude.

[sATL]

I guess we have to wait until the reunion to find out how everyone reacts to the news of Joe's deportation ruling. Thanks to Andy on WWHL for saying something. Surely Tre and Joe have something up their sleeve other than "let the lawyers handle it". Its too bad with all of these women (past and present) on the show Tre doesn't have one confidant to share with.

In his defense - I thought the law was ages ago when they married,  you were automatically a citizen (ie can't be deported) if you married a US citizen. Learn something new everyday. Kinda surprised no one mentioned that detail sooner - I'm sure they got married in a big fancy wedding where the officials , both at the church and where they obtained the marriage license,  who would want to make sure every detail was covered.

Edited November 9, 2018 by sATL

[jumper sage]

7 hours ago, ghoulina said:

8 hours ago, sATL said:

Did we see the middle daughter- gabriella? She looks the most like Joe. Gia being 17 is drama all by herself.

Kudos for whichever daughter rode the good  old yellow bus to school. Usually RHO* kids get chauffeured to a fancy private school.

I think it has been said that Gabriella doesn't like to film. If they're honoring her wishes and allowing her to remain off camera, I do have some level of respect for that.

Bold: I do believe that is what is going on.  We haven't really seen much of Gabriella in years. 

I too love that the girls are in public schools.  I can't believe that Audrianna is 8 now.

Melissa shouldn't have let Joe get away with doing nothing in the house all these years.  I come from an immigrant Italian family and our men do just as much for the household as our women.

[sATL]

42 minutes ago, jumper sage said:

 

Melissa shouldn't have let Joe get away with doing nothing in the house all these years.  I come from an immigrant Italian family and our men do just as much for the household as our women.

I'm still trying to figure out Melissa. Of all the women, yes she is 100%? Italian but she seems the least likely to be the one to hold onto all of the older traditions. So when she has the battles with Joe over household, child and job/career duties, it just seems odd coming from her.  I'm not sure why it is a discussion among 4 other people (Joe and children) to assist in bringing food to the table. If you want to eat, dammit get off your ass and come grab your bowl.  And then she has to cheese and sauce everyone's serving. As long as she keeps doing that kind of serving, at every meal, her family will sit and wait on her.

As cute as Antonia is, and now she is a teen, - I would have had a talk with her about throwing forks. No-no boo-boo  , that won't work here.

Her pasta looked good. If I would eat a bowl of pasta like that for dinner, I would be big as a house - too many carbs. Wonder how often does that get big bowl served for dinner.

Edited November 9, 2018 by sATL

[sheetmoss]

I said to my sis - Marge's housekeeper could be a character on American Horror Story.

       Didn't Marge have financial issues--maybe going bankrupt or sued not too long ago?

 

ETA:  Found it  https://pagesix.com/2018/01/18/rhonj-star-margaret-josephs-house-in-foreclosure/

Edited November 9, 2018 by sheetmoss

[queenjen]

18 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

My first thought was...now I know where Gina from OC got her inspiration

I wondered if she was going through a Dexter stage ('ice truck killer' season 1, the killer painted the women's nails different colours). I'm also wondering if Teresa is evolving to a life she discovered on camp. but then there are the rumours about the lawyer she's not been seeing for the last 2 years and x months. 

[queenjen]

7 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

And I have been wondering this since viewing the lukewarm season opener: why the hell didn't they open the season with the sleepover??? They filmed it, and it seems to be the source of lots of drama, yet we only get to see it in flashbacks? Duuuude.

I think they were supposed to. I've heard rumours that this season has been cut shorter than they anticipated, rumours which were offset by the usual (NOW it's usual, every Bravo show that's opened in the past 6 months, from Flipping Out to Below Deck, seems to  have been overhyped) 'this is the most dramatic season EVER'. So the sleepover was the event that was indeed supposed to have begun the season. 

[bichonblitz]

6 hours ago, sheetmoss said:

Didn't Marge have financial issues--maybe going bankrupt or sued not too long ago?

Yes. She's broke and a poser. 

[Kdawg82]

6 hours ago, sheetmoss said:

Didn't Marge have financial issues--maybe going bankrupt or sued not too long ago?

This. Maybe that's why immediately she shut down the talk of Frank's disbarment..."it's none of my business." Sounds like she knows she can be called out any minute regarding her issues, was my immediate thought. I visited her website amid the season opener b/c I just enjoy perusing the net for fashions and products etc. She seems to only have luggage now??!! I didn't see anything really in the way of clothing or the shoes she was hyping last season. I know she was sued by another company for a logo on the clothes. Now RE the convo with Gorgas, she's switching gears to PJs. I also saw the foreclosure in Tenafly b/c I'm from NJ originally and the house style looked so familiar so was curious on her town. Now she's in Englewood.

[Kdawg82]

11 hours ago, sATL said:

In his defense - I thought the law was ages ago when they married,  you were automatically a citizen (ie can't be deported) if you married a US citizen.

Mr. Kdawg is in US legally since 8 yrs old and has a green card, SSN, Etc. He married me, a U.S . born citizen. But unless he goes through the citizenship course and passes it, pays the fee it costs, he is not a citizen. He is careful not to break any laws or else we shall find ourselves raising our family overseas where I thankfully speak the language. I'm forever on his case to just do it. No reason not to at this point.

[Baltimore Betty]

48 minutes ago, bichonblitz said:

Yes. She's broke and a poser. 

And yet they piss money away on things like vag rejuvination, stylists, hair and make up people, parties, etc...and never look for real employment like a 9 to 5 or anything.

[Baltimore Betty]

13 hours ago, Barb23 said:

None of them are attractive & the boobs hanging out doesn't help.

I swear, word for word that was what my husband says everytime he walks by the tv, no matter what HW city I am watching, lol.

[KungFuBunny]

On 11/7/2018 at 9:32 PM, dosodog said:

I like Margaret’s Joe.  I believe him when he says she is beautiful and doesn't need surgery.

I could, however, do without the shower scenes.

I also like Margaret's Joe...he got me last year when Margaret was looking at prints and finishes for their grand room...Margaret said she wanted a wall of Fabulosity and Joe said how about we aim for Normalosity

[kicksave]

What happened to Melissa's adorable daughter? She's turned into a teenage monster...she was so sweet and cute...now she's rude and disrespectful. The way she passive aggressively set the table by throwing the utensils and then barking that the table was set was really an eye opener. Where was the old school Italian father doling out discipline to children who disrespect their mother and don't help with putting dinner on the table? For all his "I'm Italian...we're old school" crap his kids are brats and treat Melissa like crap. They never listen to her and act like spoiled rich kids with entitlement attitudes. 

[ghoulina]

22 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

Well, they do have kids (and a business?) and they seem to get along well enough as friends, so I don't really see a big deal about it. 

I don't really care what they do, but it does seem weird. Frank is living with her; she sees him more than her boyfriend? And she actually used the words "partner in life" to describe him. I feel like she never got over him, after the divorce. And maybe he's getting some convenient sex, meals, having the housework done, benefiting from her "stardom", etc. 

If it works for them, bravo. But I can't help but think more is going on than they allude to. 

19 hours ago, Barb23 said:

I'm sure it smells pretty nasty too.

Especially if you're waiting months to clean up after parties. 

 

13 hours ago, sheetmoss said:

I said to my sis - Marge's housekeeper could be a character on American Horror Story.

THANK YOU!!! She was giving me a vibe and I couldn't figure out exactly what it was. That was it. 

 

38 minutes ago, kicksave said:

What happened to Melissa's adorable daughter? She's turned into a teenage monster...she was so sweet and cute...now she's rude and disrespectful. The way she passive aggressively set the table by throwing the utensils and then barking that the table was set was really an eye opener. Where was the old school Italian father doling out discipline to children who disrespect their mother and don't help with putting dinner on the table? For all his "I'm Italian...we're old school" crap his kids are brats and treat Melissa like crap. They never listen to her and act like spoiled rich kids with entitlement attitudes. 

Yup. Joe doesn't care about making sure they're respectful. He just wants them to like him better than Melissa. He's so infantile. It's like he thinks he's the older brother or something. My kids can shoot off at the mouth from time to time; it happens. MY husband hears that kind of talk? Oh you will KNOW about it. 

[lezlers]

How are Dolores and Frank NOT married, again?  They live together, he supports her financially, they own businesses together, she refers to him as her "life partner" for crying out loud!  It's a marriage without sex.  Why is her boyfriend (if she's not making him up) okay with this situation?  I wish she'd just explain it to someone calmly instead of going all batshit whenever anyone questions her about it.

I liked Marge last season but it's episode one and she's already trying WAY too hard.   The cutesy Mrs and Mr scene complete with shower peek NO ONE WANTED, "waking up" with a full, perfect face of make-up..come on, girl.   No one is buying this. 

Edited November 9, 2018 by lezlers

[TattleTeeny]

@ghoulina, I do wonder too; it sounds like the BF not too committed (or he has legit reasons for his absence—I don’t know). I just meant that it doesn’t bother me what people do in their personal lives; if they all get along in the arrangement, whatever. It would not be for me, but again, whatever for them.

[lezlers]

On ‎11‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 9:00 AM, luckyroll3 said:

Margaret was doing entirely too much this episode.  Did we really need to see her and Joe waking up naked in bed with the results of her full smokey-eye and lashes makeup tutorial and them in the shower?  Or hear her make bad innuendos about "needing coffee with cream, but not that cream <wink, wink>"?  Ugh!  Was she that annoying last season?  I really don't remember her being that awful, but then again, she could have been overshadowed by Soggy who was an absolute narcissistic nightmare.  

Jesus!  Who let's a 12 year old apply nails like that, that aren't Lee press-ons that fall off after a couple of hours.  Melania has clearly been watching too much Claws.  She can't possibly write or type or wipe her ass properly with those things.  

Damn, reading the comments about Melissa's party, I didn't even realize I fell asleep before the end of the episode!  

And thank you guys for clarifying what was wrong with Tre's face.  I couldn't quite figure out what was different in the first couple scenes other than she didn't have on as much make-up as usual.  She really needs to stop.  And I'm hoping Margaret doesn't start.  I think her face looks great for her age.  No need to start messing with it.

Also, Delores can miss me with her, "nothing was stolen" with regards to her husband getting disbarred.  Is stealing his clients' money for personal use not the general definition of the reason he got disbarred?

I'm reading the disbarment decision now.  This was not all one big misunderstanding.  He knew exactly what he was doing and deserved to lose his license.  Not only did he take money out of a client's trust account to pay his personal bills, he lied about it to the auditor.  Repeatedly.  I mean, this is the shit they teach you in law school not to do under ANY circumstance.

Edited November 9, 2018 by lezlers

[TexasGal]

1 hour ago, kicksave said:

What happened to Melissa's adorable daughter? She's turned into a teenage monster...she was so sweet and cute...now she's rude and disrespectful. The way she passive aggressively set the table by throwing the utensils and then barking that the table was set was really an eye opener. Where was the old school Italian father doling out discipline to children who disrespect their mother and don't help with putting dinner on the table? For all his "I'm Italian...we're old school" crap his kids are brats and treat Melissa like crap. They never listen to her and act like spoiled rich kids with entitlement attitudes. 

I had a moment of sympathy for Antonia when they showed all 3 kids lounging around, Melissa called her to set the table and she got up with a big sigh.  I have 2 brothers, Mexican/Italian family, and I remember that feeling all too well - we'd all 3 be doing whatever we were doing before dinner and of course I was called to help cook or set the table.  Why me and not them?  (Early onset feminism.)  But then she lost me with the throwing utensils bit.  Nope.  If I had ever been surly enough to try something like that, whether or not my father was present, I would not have been enjoying life.

[sATL]

1 hour ago, lezlers said:

I'm reading the disbarment decision now.  This was not all one big misunderstanding.  He knew exactly what he was doing and deserved to lose his license.  Not only did he take money out of a client's trust account to pay his personal bills, he lied about it to the auditor.  Repeatedly.  I mean, this is the shit they teach you in law school not to do under ANY circumstance.

True. but are there procedures in place to keep from taking money out of a trust? paperwork, multiple signatures, waiting period, hearing among the partners, etc ? A trust account is not the same as gabbing lose bills out of the register, or giving back change for a $10 when someone gave you a $20.

[ladle]

Is there some law that every RHW franchise must have at least one vaginal rejuvenation a season?

 

Color me surprised that Melissa Gorga and I are the same age!  She seems so ... childlike. 

 

I don't understand what's happening in the triad of Dolores, Frank, and Her Boyfriend the Doctor She Sees Once a Week but, honestly, I can't really muster up the energy to care. 

[sATL]

9 minutes ago, ladle said:

I don't understand what's happening in the triad of Dolores, Frank, and Her Boyfriend the Doctor She Sees Once a Week but, honestly, I can't really muster up the energy to care. 

Boy Friend = booty call and social status

Frank = father of children and financial support

Delores = Happy as a clam and hopes every women is envious of her because she has it all

[TattleTeeny]

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What happened to Melissa's adorable daughter? She's turned into a teenage monster...she was so sweet and cute...now she's rude and disrespectful. The way she passive aggressively set the table by throwing the utensils and then barking that the table was set was really an eye opener. 

Haha, I don't know that she ever was a sweet little kid either. Of all my friends who have had sightings of Melissa and Antonia "in the wild" (I never get so lucky even though I live here too), every one has said that child was having some kind of a meltdown.. That said, maybe the meltdowns were perfectly justified considering the drama-fest she comes from.

[lezlers]

48 minutes ago, sATL said:

True. but are there procedures in place to keep from taking money out of a trust? paperwork, multiple signatures, waiting period, hearing among the partners, etc ? A trust account is not the same as gabbing lose bills out of the register, or giving back change for a $10 when someone gave you a $20.

I don't know what you're asking.  Trust accounts are there to protect client's funds.  Monies are withdrawn as needed to pay legal fees or, in the case of Frank, pay for various real estate transactions on behalf of the client.  No hearings are necessary.  Frank took those monies out to pay his own bills, then tried to cover it up later (badly), going as far as to get his client (who was clearly also a personal friend) to lie for him as well.  Under oath.   So not only did he borrow money without permission, he attempted to cover it up, committed perjury as well as possibly conspired with his friend to also commit perjury. 

Edited November 9, 2018 by lezlers

[nexxie]

Maybe Delores and Frank aren’t married so that she can’t be held financially responsible for his misdeeds.

[sATL]

24 minutes ago, lezlers said:

I don't know what you're asking.  Trust accounts are there to protect client's funds.  Monies are withdrawn as needed to pay legal fees or, in the case of Frank, pay for various real estate transactions on behalf of the client.  No hearings are necessary.  Frank took those monies out to pay his own bills, then tried to cover it up later (badly), going as far as to get his client (who was clearly also a personal friend) to lie for him as well.  Under oath.   So not only did he borrow money without permission, he attempted to cover it up, committed perjury as well as possibly conspired with his friend to also commit perjury. 

 

ok. I just thought when the $$ is withdrawn from a trust , alot of procedures, paperwork and documentation is required to prevent theft and misuse of funds.

for example if a trust is have money set aside for grandkids to go to college, there should be a set of "rules" that the $$ is used and payable to a college. Not to make payroll at the lawyer's side business.

Edited November 9, 2018 by sATL

[ghoulina]

2 hours ago, lezlers said:

I liked Marge last season but it's episode one and she's already trying WAY too hard.   The cutesy Mrs and Mr scene complete with shower peek NO ONE WANTED, "waking up" with a full, perfect face of make-up..come on, girl.   No one is buying this. 

Yes. I found her refreshing last season because she seemed fairly genuine. Now it's as if she's writing a script and playing a roll. If she keeps this up, I'm going to be over her real quickly. 

 

2 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

@ghoulina, I do wonder too; it sounds like the BF not too committed (or he has legit reasons for his absence—I don’t know). I just meant that it doesn’t bother me what people do in their personal lives; if they all get along in the arrangement, whatever. It would not be for me, but again, whatever for them.

Oh it doesn't bother me at all. It interests me. I'm going to comment and snark on it. But it doesn't really BOTHER me. 

 

13 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Maybe Delores and Frank aren’t married so that she can’t be held financially responsible for his misdeeds.

I think you're onto something.