"The View": Week Of 7/30/2018

[Bronzedog]

Whoopie is wearing a king size fitted sheet today, but, it doesn’t fit very well.

Hope Sara’s send off is better than her birthday.  

[blondiec0332]

9 minutes ago, backformore said:

Joy pretty much asked whether healthcare was a right or a privilege.  A question Meghan did not address. 

Meghan thinks it's a right for people who can afford it.  She has never went without healthcare.  She has never had to pay for it herself.  Growing up rich has made her a truly horrible person.

[backformore]

Meghan is so glad that women are finally being honest about how tough motherhood can be.  

Like this is a new trend?  

My kids are close to 30, and whether Meghan knows it or not, mothers have been talking honestly about childbirth, the after -effects, (including not wanting sex)  and how tough motherhood is for at least that long.  Just because MEGHAN hasn't been listening to it, doesn't mean it wasn't happening.

[Poohbear617]

When RBM goes off on healthcare and how it will be paid for, I wish they would remind her it's not being paid for now!  Her father is being treated well and I am sure they are managing his pain, etc... But I would love to ask her about the thousands of people  (my mother included) who had a curable form of cancer AND  insurance but by the end of treatments was bankrupt and losing her home. She has no idea how 1 illness can wipe you out.  HEY Meghan how do we pay for the healthcare we have now !!! Something needs to be fixed.  She keeps saying 80 percent tax, we'll first of all since health insurance will no longer be removed from paycheck, it will be replaced with this tax, not added on top of insurance.

I admit I am not sure exactly how it works, but I watched Michael Moore's documentary SICKO which show how England was able to afford it after WW2 devastation, pretty sure we could work it out.

[DB in CMH]

MM: we're having a debate.

 

Um, no you're not because you never shut your trap long enough for anybody to actually get a word in.

Nobody will bring up that MMs dad had tax payer funded health Care. That seems to get paid for.

[WarnerCL45]

10 minutes ago, backformore said:

Obama and Biden were seen getting lunch - but Meghan goes on a tangent about how terrible socialism is.  Joy asks about her views on healthcare - is it a privilege, or a guarantee? Meghan talks about "snowbirds?" And then - "Nobody can explain to me how we're going to pay for it."

What?  Did the government subsidize their lunch?  WTF?  What did she say about snowbirds (Canadians in Florida?)?  Canadians are covered by their Medicare for a certain, piddly amount, or they buy extra insurance.  The US Govt. isn't picking up the tab.

"Be aware that maintaining your provincial health care coverage does not mean you'll be covered for medical expenses outside Canada. Provinces severely limit the types of medical services covered and coverage amounts medical expenses incurred outside Canada, only covering a very small fraction of these costs.

For example, a hospital stay in the U.S. can cost $10,000 or more per day, but Ontario OHIP will only cover a maximum of $400 per day - a measly 4% of your total out of country hospital stay costs!

To ensure you're covered for unexpected medical expenses while travelling, you'll need to purchase snowbird travel medical insurance."

 

2 minutes ago, DB in CMH said:

Nobody will bring up that MMs dad had tax payer funded health Care.

I'm sure Senators are very well looked after regarding healthcare.

[blondiec0332]

2 minutes ago, Poohbear617 said:

When RBM goes off on healthcare and how it will be paid for, I wish they would remind her it's not being paid for now!  Her father is being treated well and I am sure they are managing his pain, etc... But I would love to ask her about the thousands of people  (my mother included) who had a curable form of cancer AND  insurance but by the end of treatments was bankrupt and losing her home. She has no idea how 1 illness can wipe you out.  HEY Meghan how do we pay for the healthcare we have now !!! Something needs to be fixed.  She keeps saying 80 percent tax, we'll first of all since health insurance will no longer be removed from paycheck, it will be replaced with this tax, not added on top of insurance.

I admit I am not sure exactly how it works, but I watched Michael Moore's documentary SICKO which show how England was able to afford it after WW2 devastation, pretty sure we could work it out.

Insurance for all would eliminate all the payments being made to the insurance companies.  All that money would now go towards funding insurance for all.  It's not a hard concept to understand.

[WarnerCL45]

Just now, blondiec0332 said:

Insurance for all would eliminate all the payments being made to the insurance companies.  All that money would now go towards funding insurance for all.  It's not a hard concept to understand.

I think that would be socialized medicine!  LOL

[May Jacks]

10 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

Meghan thinks it's a right for people who can afford it.  She has never went without healthcare.  She has never had to pay for it herself.  Growing up rich has made her a truly horrible person.

She deflected and played victim. Every time she is in the news for throwing a tantrum she passive-aggressively chastises the table and audience about what she really meant.  She started whining to Joy about how she isn't a cold hearted person and don't make her out to be one. Everyone isn't triggered by the socialist conversation Meggie, YOUR are the one that is triggered. 

[GoldenGirl90]

Sara's sendoff was sooo adorable. She really is a ray of sunshine and I've never seen anyone be so positive all the time but I think this show has taken a turn for the worse (looking at you, Meghan). She'll be in an environment that matches well with her personality, IMO.  

But it made me think about when Jedediah left the show last year. This is a little off-topic but I remember Whoopi had no reaction and didn't say much of anything that day. I don't even think they had a compilation video of her, which made me think the rumors of her departure might be true... 

Anyway, I'm happy for Sara.

Edited August 2, 2018 by Alexis2291

[Apprentice79]

1 minute ago, Alexis2291 said:

Sara's sendoff was sooo adorable. She really is a ray of sunshine and I've never seen anyone be so positive all the time but I think this show has taken a turn for the worse (looking at you, Meghan). She'll be in an environment that matches well with her personality, IMO.  

But it made me think about when Jedediah left the show last year. This is a little off-topic but I remember Whoopi had no reaction and didn't say much of anything that day. I don't even think they had a compilation video for her, which made me think the rumors of her departure may be true... 

Anyway, I'm happy for Sara.

Sarah is adorable and I will miss her.

Whoopie had no use for Jedediah because she never backed down.

Whoopie campaigned for Megan to come on the show.  It is why she protects her so much to the detriment of the show.

[Medicine Crow]

Meggie dear, Canadian are called "Snow Birds" because they go south in the Winter to get away from the cold!!!  We have supplemental health care that covers us while in the U.S.  (We don't go to the U.S. for medical procedures because they are free here.)  You are so ignorant & dumb!!!

Nice send-off for Sara.

[blondiec0332]

2 minutes ago, Medicine Crow said:

Meggie dear, Canadian are called "Snow Birds" because they go south in the Winter to get away from the cold!!!  We have supplemental health care that covers us while in the U.S.  (We don't go to the U.S. for medical procedures because they are free here.)  You are so ignorant & dumb!!!

Please don't tell me she thought Canadian snowbirds come here to get health care.  Is she that stupid?

[Bronzedog]

Nice send off for Sara, but, of course, Meghan hogged the majority of time left to say goodbye.  Bitch.  Sara is probably thrilled to get away from her.

[Apprentice79]

Just now, blondiec0332 said:

Please don't tell me she thought Canadian snowbirds come here to get health care.  Is she that stupid?

That was the right's talking point when they were opposing the ACA.  She is just repeating what was said in the past. Megan has no fresh ideas to offer anybody about anything. It begs the question why is she there.

[backformore]

31 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

Please don't tell me she thought Canadian snowbirds come here to get health care.  Is she that stupid?

Yes, that's pretty much what she said.   "I believe there's a reason why people from Canada come to this country to get better health care.  In AZ, where I'm from, we call them snowbirds.  The quality is better."  (meaning The quality of American health care is better than in Canada) 

 

Meghan said that "they"  are proposing a 70-80% tax rate.  Joy says "I don't think that's right", Meghan SHOWS HER THE BLUE CARD!   

that cracked me up -   it's true, of course it's true!  it says so right here on this blue card!  Blue cards don't lie! 

Edited August 2, 2018 by backformore

[Bronzedog]

8 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

Please don't tell me she thought Canadian snowbirds come here to get health care.  Is she that stupid?

Yes.  Yes she is.

[TheGreenKnight]

Although I agree with Joy most of the time, I'm glad Whoopi was there to counter the "Bernie would've won" claim and her openness toward socialism, even if Sunny is right that some ideas aren't too bad. I don't care to hear anything Meh-gun has to say on the subject considering she spends every day on this show defending a fascist wannabe dictator--she has no moral high ground to lecture from whatsoever. Naturally she screamed over Joy at the end so she couldn't respond in any way. Joy finally threw up her hands and gave up.

Anyone else noticing these strange outros from Whoopi, where she says "We'll be right back" real fast before another word can be said? All this heavy lifting from ABC just to protect McCain. They didn't even do this kind of work for Hasselback back in the day when Geddie was there; Sherri put on that they were besties, yes, but otherwise she was treated the same as every other panelist. I'm still wondering who McCain has blackmail material on at ABC to elicit this kind of response.

Anyway, very sorry to see Sara go. I've had my complaints about her the past 6 months--although I can't blame her if she checked out during this season with a lunatic like Meh-gun there injecting drama and hostility, not to overlook the perpetual shrieking, every day--but Sara's definitely a sweet, genuine person. She'll be great on GMA. Hopefully Ana or Tara will be filling her seat next season and bring the same professionalism to the show, otherwise I'll be moving on from The View along with her.

Edited August 2, 2018 by TheGreenKnight

[buffynut]

I turned it on at the beginning, and just before I muted MM, I heard her muttering about Canadian "Snow Birds" going to Arizona for health care.  It is quite possible that the "Snow Birds" she associates with are wealthy, and therefore can afford to go to Arizona for medical procedures, and pay for them out of pocket. 

The rest of us regular Canadians, however, depend on our free health care.  Just an fyi, though. Not everything is free.  We do have to pay for medications, though insurance plans via employers, or privately, covers some costs, as well as some dental and vision care. 

Anyway, I walked away from the tv and came back into the room for Sara's farewell. She is such a cheerful, sweet person. I know she'll do well with Michael.  I'm sure after the goodbye emotions are gone, she'll realize how lucky she is to have escaped that toxic environment.

[After7Only]

I think this show needs a new (maybe younger) liberal on the panel to counteract MM.  The question that should have been asked during the how to pay for healthcare discussion is why aren’t conservatives pressured to explain how they will pay for their tax cuts, border wall, etc.   Because they never do either.   Trump had no plans during his campaign on how to pay for anything other than Mexico will pay for the wall.   

MM approaches her job like a pundit (hence the blue cards). She comes in with “stats” and prepared talking points.  The rest of the panel are basically just giving their opinions.  Sunny sometimes has notes, but to support her opinions and not talking points.  Maybe a liberal pundit could help balance out MM.  

[Medicine Crow]

18 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

Please don't tell me she thought Canadian snowbirds come here to get health care.  Is she that stupid?

Yes, she actually said that "Canadians go to Arizona for medical procedures & they're called Snow Birds".  Gawd she's so ignorant!!!

[fishsanwitt]

Once again, this stupid, ignorant woman, Meh!, shows her lack of insight, intelligence and whatever you want to add, with her bullshit about Socialism vs Democratic Socialism. I can see why so many of you do not want to watch. I had to pause the show, I was so angry. And she *cut* Joy off! I am seething.

[blondiec0332]

4 minutes ago, Medicine Crow said:

Yes, she actually said that "Canadians go to Arizona for medical procedures & they're called Snow Birds".  Gawd she's so ignorant!!!

I'm not disparaging Arizona but if Canadians wanted to come to this country for health care wouldn't they go to a state right across the border?  

And I always thought snowbirds went south for the weather not health care

Edited August 2, 2018 by blondiec0332

[Medicine Crow]

5 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

I'm not disparaging Arizona but if Canadians wanted to come to this country for health care wouldn't they go to a state right across the border?  

And I always thought snowbirds went south for the weather not health care

Exactly, although my nephew, his wife & kids go to Palm Springs in the winter & take "little trips" to MEXICO for dental work (cheaper than in Canada).  Just sayin'.

[merriebreeze]

Canadians call BS on Meghan

[Apprentice79]

1 hour ago, blondiec0332 said:

I'm not disparaging Arizona but if Canadians wanted to come to this country for health care wouldn't they go to a state right across the border?  

And I always thought snowbirds went south for the weather not health care

 

Exactly! a lot Canadians have homes in Florida to get away from the winter.  I have relatives in Montreal who did that as well.  Megan is an ignoramus. 

Edited August 2, 2018 by Apprentice79

[geekburger]

Tomorrow is Anas last day to “wow” the execs if they are going to make a decision about Sara’s replacement by the new season. 

[After7Only]

1 minute ago, Medicine Crow said:

Exactly, although my nephew, his wife & kids go to Palm Springs in the winter & take "little trips" to MEXICO for dental work (cheaper than in Canada).  Just sayin'.

There are Americans that go to Mexico for dental work as well for the he same reason.  Americans also go to other countries for cheaper plastic surgery or fertility treatments.  Does that mean those other countries have better healthcare, or the American system is flawed?

[blondiec0332]

1 minute ago, After7Only said:

There are Americans that go to Mexico for dental work as well for the he same reason.  Americans also go to other countries for cheaper plastic surgery or fertility treatments.  Does that mean those other countries have better healthcare, or the American system is flawed?

Well……...

[backformore]

30 minutes ago, TheGreenKnight said:

Although I agree with Joy most of the time, I'm glad Whoopi was there to counter the "Bernie would've won" claim and her openness toward socialism, even if Sunny is right that some ideas aren't too bad

Joy is wrong on this topic.   I know she loves Bernie Sanders, but the GOP would have had a field day attacking the atheist Jewish socialist if he had won the nomination.  JOy is in denial. 

Edited August 2, 2018 by backformore

[blondiec0332]

14 minutes ago, backformore said:

Joy is wrong on this topic.   I know she loves Bernie Sanders, but the GOP would have had a field day attacking the atheist Jewish socialist if he had won the nomination.  JOy is in denial. 

I agree 100%.  IMO Bernie was the right message wrong messenger.

[abbyzenn]

I haven't watched the view in years although I started (again) reading this board a few months ago.  Now that The Price is Right is in Reruns I'll sometimes watch the view if there's a guest I want to see.  Started watching this morning and saw the bit about health care.  If I had been Joy I woulda just gotten up and walked off.  Meghan didn't let her talk.  She's every bit annoying as you all have been writing on this board.  I ended up switching aback to The Price is Right.

When Meghan was going on about how do we pay for it, someone should have said how do we pay for everthing else?  Run up the debt - that is if it's a republican president.   

I have an incurable possible fatal disease which currently is under control thru medication.  I'm lucky I have good health insurance - retired Federal employee.  There is one treatment that costs (you inhale this stuff 3 times a day) that costs $18,000 a month - luckily I'm not on that.  I go to cardio/pulmonary rehab and was talking to one of the other patients there that has some weird autoimmune disease and she's goes for these treatmetns twice a month which cost $60,000 (luckily she has good insurance).  I think people that are against universal healthcare are people that don't have or no one close to them have had a serious health issue.

[GoldenGirl90]

25 minutes ago, merriebreeze said:

Canadians call BS on Meghan

It's hilarious. She's getting annihilated on twitter.

[RedheadZombie]

1 hour ago, WarnerCL45 said:

What?  Did the government subsidize their lunch?  WTF?  What did she say about snowbirds (Canadians in Florida?)?  Canadians are covered by their Medicare for a certain, piddly amount, or they buy extra insurance.  The US Govt. isn't picking up the tab.

"Be aware that maintaining your provincial health care coverage does not mean you'll be covered for medical expenses outside Canada. Provinces severely limit the types of medical services covered and coverage amounts medical expenses incurred outside Canada, only covering a very small fraction of these costs.

For example, a hospital stay in the U.S. can cost $10,000 or more per day, but Ontario OHIP will only cover a maximum of $400 per day - a measly 4% of your total out of country hospital stay costs!

To ensure you're covered for unexpected medical expenses while travelling, you'll need to purchase snowbird travel medical insurance."

 

I'm sure Senators are very well looked after regarding healthcare.

This was covered in Sicko.  They discussed Canadians who would stop at the border to buy insurance before entering the U.S. for a day's visit.  They could twist an ankle and go home with a $10,000 ER bill. 

National health care is a necessity, but we really need a single payer system.  Otherwise the insurance companies still call all the shots.

1 hour ago, blondiec0332 said:

Insurance for all would eliminate all the payments being made to the insurance companies.  All that money would now go towards funding insurance for all.  It's not a hard concept to understand.

The red tape eradication will save hundred of millions if not billions.  Physician practices often have one to two full-time workers (or more) who deal with insurance alone.

50 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

That was the right's talking point when they were opposing the ACA.  She is just repeating what was said in the past. Megan has no fresh ideas to offer anybody about anything. It begs the question why is she there.

Meghan is the most informed person in her family!  It says so in the Glamour article linked in her thread.

[maggiemae]

Loved Sarah's spunk with the paper clip - and then Whoopi rang the bell! I was as angry as Joy.

[blondiec0332]

5 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:

Meghan is the most informed person in her family!  It says so in the Glamour article linked in her thread.

She must have a great PR person.  I wonder if Guns & Ammo will do an interview with her.

[rcc]

This show will miss Sara. No ego, no agenda and just a nice person. This show's loss is GMA's gain. Both Sara and Paula should have stayed at GMA and not subjected themselves to this shitshow. Except for Joy who they both loved and rightly so.

[GoldenGirl90]

23 minutes ago, backformore said:

Joy is wrong on this topic.   I know she loves Bernie Sanders, but the GOP would have had a field day attacking the atheist Jewish socialist if he had won the nomination.  JOy is in denial. 

I really don't understand why folks think he would've won against Trump. Wishful thinking, really.

[OnTime]

44 minutes ago, geekburger said:

Tomorrow is Anas last day to “wow” the execs if they are going to make a decision about Sara’s replacement by the new season. 

I'll bet money that decision is  made. They don't need to see her one more time.

The real question is did she agree to move to NY?

Edited August 2, 2018 by OnTime

[blondiec0332]

1 hour ago, backformore said:

Meghan said that "they"  are proposing a 70-80% tax rate.  Joy says "I don't think that's right", Meghan SHOWS HER THE BLUE CARD!   

She also said only those people in favor of socialism should have to pay those tax rates.  OK Meghan you want to play that game.  Only "hawks" in favor of wars should have to pay for them.  

 

And why must she use the word exponentially every single day?

Edited August 2, 2018 by blondiec0332

[pinguina]

1 hour ago, backformore said:

Obama and Biden were seen getting lunch - but Meghan goes on a tangent about how terrible socialism is.  Joy asks about her views on healthcare - is it a privilege, or a guarantee? Meghan talks about "snowbirds?" And then - "Nobody can explain to me how we're going to pay for it."   Joy starts to say something, meghan  shouts over her. 

yes, Meghan nobody will EVER be able to explain ANYTHING to you if you don't shut your trap for a minute! 

Then she tells Joy "don't make me out to be compassionless when I'm not!" 

Really?  Joy pretty much asked whether healthcare was a right or a privilege.  A question Meghan did not address. 

Oh, my goodness!  ^^^   THIS!!!    

They were talking about how President Obama and Vice-President Biden were having lunch at a deli/cafe(?) and MM goes on a rant about socialism and how will it be paid for??   (And I think that MM secretly believes that she/her family deserve it because of who they are.) That wasn't the topic!!  She did this yesterday when they were talking about the orange guy's "campaign" rally (I don't understand why he is STILL campaigning when he won over 18 months ago) and she made it about "the war on Christmas".

Plus, Joy isn't making you look to be without compassion, Meghan.  You're doing that all by yourself.

[Apprentice79]

1 minute ago, pinguina said:

Oh, my goodness!  ^^^   THIS!!!    

They were talking about how President Obama and Vice-President Biden were having lunch at a deli/cafe(?) and MM goes on a rant about socialism and how will it be paid for??   (And I think that MM secretly believes that she/her family deserve it because of who they are.) That wasn't the topic!!  She did this yesterday when they were talking about the orange guy's "campaign" rally (I don't understand why he is STILL campaigning when he won over 18 months ago) and she made it about "the war on Christmas".

Plus, Joy isn't making you look to be without compassion, Meghan.  You're doing that all by yourself.

I remember Elizabeth going on a rant about healthcare, children and the costs of insuring them. At one point, she screamed out what about their parents, and Joy responded, they are poor Elizabeth. That interaction showed me that Elizabeth and others like her are devoid of any empathy for other people. 

[blondiec0332]

Just now, Apprentice79 said:

I remember Elizabeth going on a rant about healthcare, children and the costs of insuring them. At one point, she screamed out what about their parents, and Joy responded, they are poor Elizabeth. That interaction showed me that Elizabeth and others like her are devoid of any empathy for other people. 

I remember that.  That remark will forever make me hate Elisabeth.  Her ignorance coupled with her lack of compassion was truly disgusting.

[Silver Raven]

Meggy just makes crap up.  She claimed that Obama didn't endorse Ocasio-Cortez because she's a socialist.  No, he only endorsed 80 people, there are 435 Congressional races, plus he also endorsed state legislative candidates.  He was only endorsing candidates in close races.

Secondly, in her claim about the trillions of dollars that it would cost to fund Medicare for all, she didn't mention that the number is less than what Medicare costs today just covering a limited number of people.

[Coffeewinewater]

Sara's goodbye was sweet.  I stopped watching after Joy left and o ly started watching again on the regular last summer.  Damn they had a lot of cohosts during that time. I did get see Jed before she left and I wasn’t crazy for her but ...

Sara Jed and Sunny seemed to have fun together.  I can't see MM doing anything  fun but drinking.

Reading on here that Whoopie wanted MM on the show.....ugh.

Whoopi protecting MM ,makes sense now.  Whoopi wanted MM, why?

I wonder if Sara was pushed out for another political  person with election coming up? After MM snotty comments to Sherri that this is a different show now, ( yeah the Meghan McCain show).

  I'm happy for Sara  and she'll be happy doing that GMA show. 

[WarnerCL45]

1 hour ago, backformore said:

Joy is wrong on this topic.   I know she loves Bernie Sanders, but the GOP would have had a field day attacking the atheist Jewish socialist if he had won the nomination.  JOy is in denial. 

Yes, nothing wrong with him, but a limited appeal to the masses.

[backformore]

4 minutes ago, Silver Raven said:

Meggy just makes crap up.  She claimed that Obama didn't endorse Ocasio-Cortez because she's a socialist.  No, he only endorsed 80 people, there are 435 Congressional races, plus he also endorsed state legislative candidates.  He was only endorsing candidates in close races.

 

Meghan's agenda is that there is a split in the Democratic party - the traditional Dems against the "Socialist Dems."  she's trying to make that the talking point.  Obama endorses certain candidates, she jumps on it as "proof"  that he is choosing  one side and not the other. 

The topic was Joe Biden and Barack Obama having lunch together, and maybe this is hinting at Biden running.  Meghan jumps on it to push "there's a split in the party!  Obama is taking sides!"  The Dems will never win if they can't be united!  Healthcare! Socialism! Taxes! 

I LOVED Sara's take on it - talking about the Obama/Biden memes that were so damn cute. 

[blondiec0332]

2 minutes ago, backformore said:

Meghan's agenda is that there is a split in the Democratic party - the traditional Dems against the "Socialist Dems."  she's trying to make that the talking point.  Obama endorses certain candidates, she jumps on it as "proof"  that he is choosing  one side and not the other. 

The topic was Joe Biden and Barack Obama having lunch together, and maybe this is hinting at Biden running.  Meghan jumps on it to push "there's a split in the party!  Obama is taking sides!"  The Dems will never win if they can't be united!  Healthcare! Socialism! Taxes! 

The more she talks about the "split" in the Democratic party the less she needs to talk about the split in her own party.  Unless of course there is no split and Meghan is a Trump supporter now.

[backformore]

Just now, WarnerCL45 said:

Yes, nothing wrong with him, but a limited appeal to the masses.

right.   The GOP attacked Hillary with such ferocity.  all of that would have been directed at Bernie, had he been the nominee. When Joy says, "Bernie would have won," she's ignoring that the attacks from the right were never launched against him. 

[RHJunkie]

It's official, Meghan is a dumbass. As a Canadian, don't talk about other countries and their systems in place if you haven't bothered to do a shred of research on it. The term snow bird is not exclusive to Canadians. It refers to any person who temporarily migrates from a cold climate area to a warm climate area. It has nothing to do with healthcare, it has everything to do with weather. The definition of it is literally in the term used - inspired by migratory birds which commonly move between cold and warm climates throughout the year. The ignorance is outstanding.

2017, Canada had its largest amount of Canadians go outside of Canada to receive medical treatments...it was a whopping 0.175% of our total population. The main reasons people leave the country for treatment is if they need to get something like an MRI done and they would prefer not to wait weeks to do it and another big reason is that Canada's FDA approval process is far more rigorous compared to other countries and I think it's largely due to the fact our system is government owned, therefore, are more liable and so you don't see close to the amount of experimental treatments that places like the US offer. Is it the best healthcare in the world? I highly doubt it. Does it have its negatives? Absolutely. But I have never lived a day in this world with the worry that getting sick will bankrupt me and that itself improves my quality of life knowing that I never have to choose between medication to make me feel better and paying my bills. And to the subject of how it gets paid, I don't know if it should be done solely through taxes. What every other first world country has is a mixed economy while everything in the US is privatized. The cost of your healthcare is high because you have a government that gives reigns to corporations to profit off of people's illnesses and provides incentives for the pharmaceutical industry to pump out barely successful medication and experimental drugs because they know there will always be people in despair that are willing to take the risk. And they are so filthy rich that for those that bother to muster the money to sue, it's an easy cheque to write for them to get you to go away. Privatizing your entire country may make you the richest country in the world, but it mostly serves to widen the gap between your rich and poor. In a mixed economy, that gap is lessened (again, not just by more appropriate taxation but by not selling out your citizens to greedy corporations).

And for the record Meghan, Canada has a higher life expectancy, lower infant mortality rate which many studies say could be attributed to the fact that we not only do not discriminate against who should receive health care, but quite possibly the health care may be better, resulting in less of a need for people to make repeat trips to the doctor. Just some food for thought.

And why didn’t anyone do the math on Bernie’s numbers? An estimated $33 trillion dollars in a country with a population of over 350M people averages about $90k per person over a 10 year period which is about $9k per person a year. Get some of the private money out of the industry and that number goes down exponentially.

Sara is adorable. Her goodbye was very sweet. She brought a light-heartedness that I think the show really needs.

Edited August 2, 2018 by RHJunkie