S10.E04: Eggs Over, Not Easy

[Starchild]

Wasn't that Rhea Seehorn playing the animal rescue tech?

[SuprSuprElevated]

44 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

David's decision

Well usually both parents are involved in the naming of a child.  I'm assuming it is a homage to his brother.

[HoboClayton]

Yes. Throughout the original show, Mark is the only person that Becky ever slept with, or was implied to have slept with.

[BitterApple]

I get Becky being sad, depressed and going through a dark period after Mark's death, but a 20 year spiral seems a bit much. You'd think Roseanne would've given her a tough love talk at some point by telling Becky that what happened was awful, but she was still young and had the potential to make something of herself. As I said in a previous thread, it's not like she was left with kids to support, limiting her options. It's kind of a bummer because I was so attached to young Becky and young Darlene that it sucks to see them living such miserable, crappy lives.

[HoboClayton]

It is a bit much, but, it is real. Some spirals people never get out of sadly.  Honestly, I think we're supposed to just think she did a lot of drugs and drinking and dudes, and is now finally starting to come around again. I don't think there will be much more of a history given to her. I think they'll move on to Darlene and David. 

[StaceyNotStacie]

Since they’re addressing Becky possibly moving on, I wonder if she will get a love interest next season. 

I’m also guessing Jackie still has her house since she’s taking the dog (who I hope we continue to see on screen). 

[Miss Ruth]

2 hours ago, tribeca said:

I wanted Becky to tell Darlene what was wrong with her. 

Seeing that it's only a half-hour show, I'm glad she didn't. :)

2 hours ago, Stacey1014 said:

...I didn’t miss the kids one bit. 

Same here.

Roseanne didn't seem to know the woman at the animal shelter, so I was surprised when she asked Roseanne,  "What if your sister dies?"

Blooper, anyone?

5 minutes ago, Stacey1014 said:

I wonder if [Becky] will get a love interest next season. 

I think Becky will get pregnant.

Edited April 11, 2018 by Miss Ruth

[LBS]

I’m not going to get into the whole Connor Canon/Roseanne in real life because I’m enjoying the show more than my old school watching/liberal leanings should but I love the touches to real life.  The blue kitchen paper towel roll had me rolling! That’s a janitorial roll for most construction shops and Dan still doing dry rock makes me think he’d grab a roll. I know my ex did.

[Zoe]

2 hours ago, LucyEth said:

All the references to Jackie not having anyone and being lonely obviously means that Andy doesn't exist.  

Not necessarily. There's still the possibility that he was raised by Fred. Plus, Andy was older than Jerry, so he would have left home sooner.

[chocolatine]

Just now, Zoe said:

Not necessarily. There's still the possibility that he was raised by Fred. Plus, Andy was older than Jerry, so he would have left home sooner.

 I hope that's the case, but it would be still be sad if Andy is completely estranged from Jackie. She's whacky, but she's a good person and a loving mother. If Roseanne and Jackie could have a relationship with Bev, why can't Andy have a relationship with Jackie?

[HoboClayton]

Because the show is 20 minutes, if that, long, and they had a few episodes. I know that's silly to just act like he never existed though, but, it doesn't bother me. Andy, as a child, had like one line the entire time he was shown. The person of Andy never really existed but to be a cause for plots, and arguments. He was so young though, so it's no insult to the actor who played him. He just wasn't THERE there.. We shall see though, there's still time. Who knows what will happen?

[SparklesBitch]

10 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

 I hope that's the case, but it would be still be sad if Andy is completely estranged from Jackie. She's whacky, but she's a good person and a loving mother. If Roseanne and Jackie could have a relationship with Bev, why can't Andy have a relationship with Jackie?

Exactly. What is it with their insistence on making Jackie this lonely sad sack who has nothing going on in her life??? At heart, she IS a good person. I can understand being temporarily estranged from your kid for whatever reason, and Wacky Jackie can be a bit much, but she’s nowhere near as insufferable as Bev is.  

[threebluestars]

This episode was really hard for me to watch. I got told a few years ago that I couldn't have kids so seeing Becky breakdown over it made me break down.

That being said ... I really hope they stick with that storyline for her and don't make her magically pregnant. Because there are those of us out there that it won't happen to, and I hope the show keeps it that way. Not everyone gets the ending they want.

[LiveenLetLive]

I thought that Lecy was really strong in that last scene with Roseanne where Becky had to admit that the experience of having a child has probably passed her by (of course women still have babies in their early 40's, my mother did at 42, although I wonder, is it more likely that women who have had children already in their younger years find it easier to have a baby late in life?) At any rate, I did enjoy the show, but you know what is really driving me nuts? The make up on the older characters, Dan, Roseanne and Jackie is positively funereal--very artificial looking IMO.  

2 minutes ago, threebluestars said:

This episode was really hard for me to watch. I got told a few years ago that I couldn't have kids so seeing Becky breakdown over it made me break down.

That being said ... I really hope they stick with that storyline for her and don't make her magically pregnant. Because there are those of us out there that it won't happen to, and I hope the show keeps it that way. Not everyone gets the ending they want.

It does sort of bug me that Roseanne had to give Becky hope that she could get pregnant, it does happen, but at that age many women go through expensive fertility treatment to make it happen--I never wanted children but found out several years ago that my PCOS would have made it unlikely for me to get pregnant without treatment so I can relate in some way.

[aurora296]

I really felt for Becky's character because I was told in my 20's if I ever wanted children, I should consult a fertility specialist since my chances were almost impossible of having children on my own. 

I never had a relationship with anyone I truly felt was the one I'd like to be parents with. When Becky said that about Mark being the only guy she ever wanted to try with I nodded with familiar sadness.

But if they end up having Becky get pregnant in a later episode, I personally won't think that's too unrealistic, because I ended up having a fling with an old high school boyfriend, got pregnant through natural conception and gave birth to my one and only child one week before my 46th birthday. 

[LiveenLetLive]

3 minutes ago, aurora296 said:

I really felt for Becky's character because I was told in my 20's if I ever wanted children, I should consult a fertility specialist since my chances were almost impossible of having children on my own. 

I never had a relationship with anyone I truly felt was the one I'd like to be parents with. When Becky said that about Mark being the only guy she ever wanted to try with I nodded with familiar sadness.

But if they end up having Becky get pregnant in a later episode, I personally won't think that's too unrealistic, because I ended up having a fling with an old high school boyfriend, got pregnant through natural conception and gave birth to my one and only child one week before my 46th birthday. 

I believe the last figure I looked at was that a woman of 45 had a 1 in 200 chance of naturally conceiving, possible yes as your experience proves, but Becky's doctor told her that her eggs were no good, I honestly hope that they don't have her get pregnant because for many women in her situation it is not going to happen.

[chocolatine]

Just now, LiveenLetLive said:

I believe the last figure I looked at was that a woman of 45 had a 1 in 200 chance of naturally conceiving, possible yes as your experience proves, but Becky's doctor told her that her eggs were no good, I honestly hope that they don't have her get pregnant because for many women in her situation it is not going to happen.

The doctor said with Becky's egg quality she had a 5% chance, i.e. 1 in 20. That makes her a bad candidate for surrogacy using her own egg, since the harvesting and IVF is very expensive, but it doesn't mean it's impossible for her to get pregnant.

[Richard]

I miss Roseanne Conner's laughter. This version of the character seems so angry and confrontational.

 

Can't help but think that's a bit of Roseanne Barr coming through. 

[JAYJAY1979]

I'd love to see Roseanne at work as an Uber driver... lots of comedic windows to be had.

Maybe if they have more episodes next year, they could show the characters outside the house.

[GreatKazu]

5 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

When was Becky a slut? She literally dated like 3 guys and married Mark 

Back in the episode "Vegas, Vegas" when Darlene called her one for being on the pill. I loved that scene. 

Are they implying Becky had random sex with strangers? 

[break21]

I thought it was the weakest so-far although just when Roseanne seemed to get it together with acting John Goodman ran off the rails. 

It seemed forced and odd to me.  Just first impressions.

[rmontro]

6 hours ago, LucyEth said:

Now that the surrogacy storyline is done, I guess this was the last we will see or Sarah Chalke.

I was wondering that myself.  I had thought that it was nice that they had found roles for both "Beckys", but it looks like Sarah's run may be done.  I guess?

I also liked the Casita Bonita.  I only know of Casa Bonita through South Park and the news, but I still got a kick out of it.

Ick, I didn't like that tacky tattoo that original Becky has on her arm.  Looked bad with her waitress uniform, I'm almost surprised they hired her.

[HoboClayton]

34 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

 

Are they implying Becky had random sex with strangers? 

 

Well... She didn't know all of them. Haha. Sorry, had to. 

[Cherpumple]

6 hours ago, HoboClayton said:

This is so strange, and my brain still doesn't know how to process this show being back, or the fact that people *gasp* haven't seen every episode 200 times! Haha! Still processing.

Yes to this! It's still very surreal for me, especially since I've been watching reruns in the afternoons, so seeing a 20-25 year time jump in the same day is jarring. John Goodman looked so fresh-faced in the early seasons!

I liked this one, mainly for the sister bonding and am really hoping that Becky and Darlene keep this tone in their relationship. They are way too old to go back to their teenaged bickering, or the straight up nastiness that pervaded the Sarah Chalke years, and I really want them to have a mature and supportive relationship. I always loved those (increasingly rare) moments when they got along, my favorite being the time Becky invited Darlene to a party and helped her pick out an outfit. And I would love to see Becky have a strong "fun aunt" relationship with Darlene's kids.

I know they're still filling in some of the backstory of the past 20 years, but I really hope some more side characters get introduced soon. Their world felt so fleshed out when we saw recurring friends, co-workers, and neighbors, and I'd love to recapture some of that, even with new friends. The family feels oddly isolated at the moment. Speaking of neighbors, last week when Dan took the stair chair from the dead neighbor I immediately assumed it was one of the nudists next door. A wasted opportunity for some great jokes!

Regarding Andy, until we hear otherwise, I'm just going to assume his real father finally came back from the sea. ; ) 

[bamlou]

6 hours ago, SparklesBitch said:

7 hours ago, LucyEth said:

All the references to Jackie not having anyone and being lonely obviously means that Andy doesn't exist.  

I’m so frustrated with this! I really wanted Jackie to have something going on in her life. Ugh.

I’m feeling the same frustration. I was hoping that Laurie Metcalf would play her more like the earlier years but seems like they’re going with the S7+ Gilligan caricature she eventually became in the later years (while also stripping her of much of the identity that made her such a great mess of a character in the first place). They’ve been using Jackie in an odd way for me so far, with her inserting herself into conversations with some loosely related remark or factoid. Other than her fight with Roseanne in the first episode back (and maybe a few small moments with Becky tonight) I feel like she hasn’t had a real, grounded conversation that didn’t require her to ham it up.

I did like the talk between Becky and Darlene though. It brought back the love and care between them that the later years of the original run seemed to forget.

Edited April 11, 2018 by bamlouie

[bamlou]

1 hour ago, Cherpumple said:

I know they're still filling in some of the backstory of the past 20 years, but I really hope some more side characters get introduced soon. Their world felt so fleshed out when we saw recurring friends, co-workers, and neighbors, and I'd love to recapture some of that, even with new friends. The family feels oddly isolated at the moment.

100% agree with this. It’s what made their lives feel so authentic and ‘lived-in’. They’re going to have to re-build their world again, and now that they have a season 2 I’m hoping they’ll have more of a chance to get the show back to that same level of authenticity.

[Ina123]

Even though I know some animal rescue groups have crazy rules, denying Jackie the dog for that reason was just ridiculous. It's not like she is 90 and has dementia. I adopted my rescue 8 years ago. I was presented with a 5 page contract with questions that felt like a colonoscopy. It really did invade my privacy. I refused to answer 5 of their questions and wouldn't sign it. A friend of mine actually had fostered my dog and I asked her to put in a good word for me. On her word, they let me have my 80 lb mutt. So, even though the rules are there to protect the animal, I think some of the restrictions are overboard. I know there must be good people out there who don't want to jump through the hoops and are denied a dog or cat, some for good reasons. But it's a shame to think of them missing out on a forever home because of paper work. My Roxy is the sweetest and most gentle creature I've ever known.

Yes, Becky's tattoo looked terrible. But I'm a tattoo hater and old-fashioned.

The best scene was Dan really putting his foot down about Roseanne's interference with Becky. Even though it was delivered like an order, Roseanne knew he was right. Dan waiting for Roseanne to explode was hilarious.

[Mmmfloorpie]

10 hours ago, LucyEth said:

All the references to Jackie not having anyone and being lonely obviously means that Andy doesn't exist.  Now that the surrogacy storyline is done, I guess this was the last we will see or Sarah Chalke.

I thought it was really weird that Jackie took Becky to the obgyn and she never tried to impart her childbirth experience on her.

The old Jackie would have been like "WELL, when I was pregnant..."

[Chaos Theory]

10 hours ago, BitterApple said:

I get Becky being sad, depressed and going through a dark period after Mark's death, but a 20 year spiral seems a bit much. You'd think Roseanne would've given her a tough love talk at some point by telling Becky that what happened was awful, but she was still young and had the potential to make something of herself. As I said in a previous thread, it's not like she was left with kids to support, limiting her options. It's kind of a bummer because I was so attached to young Becky and young Darlene that it sucks to see them living such miserable, crappy lives.

Becky and Roseanne always had a turbulent relationship.  If Roseanne did give Becky the same basic talk Darlene gave Becky early on, all it would have done is made Becky spiral further.    Then again Roseanne probably used harsher words which triggered Becky and visa versa.  

I am NOT a dog person.  I have not dated people because they have had pets.  But not the point.  My point is that Jackie seems the perfect person to adopt a “rescue” dog for all those joke reasons Roseanne and Darlene gave.   

And Andy may still exist but may just never come home or call.  Fred and Jackie weren’t exactly a great marriage and after Jackie was a bit smothering.  The show could write Andy later as....resentful of his overtly liberal smothering mother.

Season ones for a lot of shows are kinda weird.   I give a lot of them a pass if they are otherwise good.  And this one is.  Mostly.

Edited April 11, 2018 by Chaos Theory

[kokapetl]

But the real season one wasn’t bad!

[Keywestclubkid]

6 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

 

Are they implying Becky had random sex with strangers? 

When tho? Vegas Vegas she was still dating mark.... she went on the pill because she was dating mark and they only broke up a short time IE when she dated Dean (the rebound guy) then they got back together and ran off and got married lol its like the Writers didn't even watch the original series  and are just making up shit thinking no one will notice...lol the reruns have been on forever so its hard not to have these characters lives scorched into your brain lol

Edited April 11, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[Zoe]

16 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

When tho? Vegas Vegas she was still dating mark.... she went on the pill because she was dating mark and they only broke up a short time IE when she dated Dean (the rebound guy) then they got back together and ran off and got married lol its like the Writers didn't even watch the original series  and are just making up shit thinking no one will notice

After Mark's death 

[Keywestclubkid]

Just now, Zoe said:

After Mark's death 

awww well then that would have made sense however Darlene made it a point to point out she was having sex with her teachers and since she never graduated highschool then that couldnt haven meant professors in collage ...and she was dating mark starting season 3 and then season 4 ask to be on the pill because she started sleeping with mark (a bitter pill to swallow) god i know way to much about this show ugh lol

[TaraS1]

4 hours ago, bamlouie said:

I’m feeling the same frustration. I was hoping that Laurie Metcalf would play her more like the earlier years but seems like they’re going with the S7+ Gilligan caricature she eventually became in the later years (while also stripping her of much of the identity that made her such a great mess of a character in the first place). They’ve been using Jackie in an odd way for me so far, with her inserting herself into conversations with some loosely related remark or factoid. Other than her fight with Roseanne in the first episode back (and maybe a few small moments with Becky tonight) I feel like she hasn’t had a real, grounded conversation that didn’t require her to ham it up.

This post is singing my life with its words @bamlouie - she is totally Gilligan Jackie and it's making me insane.  We all know Laurie Metcalf is brilliant and completely capable of bridging the gap between early seasons Jackie and wacky Jackie, so why won't they let her?  I can overlook some of the other issues (although I still can't get past Roseanne suddenly being pro-spanking), but not this one.  Laurie/Jackie deserves so much better than what we've seen thus far.

[qtpye]

12 hours ago, tribeca said:

Becky ran away and married Mark when she was 17 so what teachers did she date ? 

I wanted Becky to tell Darlene what was wrong with her. 

 

12 hours ago, chocolatine said:

Looks like we'll never find out. They did a "in loving memory" card for Glenn Quinn at the end, so I take it that's the last we're going to hear about Becky's Mark.

I didn't like the ret-conning of Becky, having Jackie imply that she thought Becky has had multiple abortions and Darlene saying that Becky dated her teachers. Original Becky was a good kid until she ran off with Mark. It's OK if they say she slept around after Mark died, but she didn't sleep around before she met him.

At least the stupid surrogacy storyline is over.

 

11 hours ago, Annber03 said:

I wondered about that, too. Did she try and take any community college classes at any point in the years afterward or something?

I would've been interested in that, too, yeah. Those issues aside, though, I did like them commiserating over how stalled their lives feel. Can kinda relate to that a bit.

The memory card for Quinn at the end was nice. 

 

11 hours ago, LucyEth said:

All the references to Jackie not having anyone and being lonely obviously means that Andy doesn't exist.  Now that the surrogacy storyline is done, I guess this was the last we will see or Sarah Chalke.

 

11 hours ago, Alexis2291 said:

I feel like they’re trying to make Becky sort of like Jackie. They made quite a few jokes about Jackie sleeping around in previous seasons. 

 

11 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

Much better then last week which did not work for me at all.   I do really like the character of Harris but that fight was still INCREDIBLY out of character.  But moving on.....

Lovely Tribute to Glenn Quinn and OG Mark.  Becky and Mark really did love each other very much and it is being made to look like Mark died really young which stunted Becky's emotional growth which makes perfect sense.  I really liked the talk between Becky and Darlene.  It was very shades of them but still more grown up them.  

 

11 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

Becky wasn't slutty.  Boy crazy, yes.  

 

11 hours ago, HoboClayton said:

I'm trying to enjoy this for what it is, and not questioning too much about the past, because it just gets too frustrating. For those who know the show, they are obviously just doing whatever they want, and I'm actually okay with that. I'm side eyeing the Becky being a huge slut thing though.. I did greatly enjoy the little fight Dan and Roseanne had in the kitchen. That brought me back and felt real. Becky's tattoo is Lecy's tattoo, it's not a tribute to Glenn.. It's just a tattoo.. This is so strange, and my brain still doesn't know how to process this show being back, or the fact that people *gasp* haven't seen every episode 200 times! Haha! Still processing.. Michael is so cute, and obviously not an actor, which was clear in teenage days. But, he's just so cute and sweet. I'm very glad he turned into such a good dude. 

 

11 hours ago, Mmmfloorpie said:

I was thinking during the episode "Why didn't they just have Becky work at the Lobo?". I saw something on Youtube where Lecy talked about the Lobo and seemed to foreshadow that the show would be returning there.

The Mexican restaurant seems so sitcomy and cliched. They only did it to have a "colourful" location and to get in some cheap Mexican jokes. It's like the Faberge egg. It's the whackiest, stupidest, most unrealistic thing that Andrea would ever give Becky, but it gave Jackie that line mispronouncing it.

 

11 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

The way I see it you can say that after Mark died she spiraled.    I can buy her spending (whatever amount of time) stuck in the worst version of being twenty one because she is in so much pain after losing the one true love of her life.    Yes the Becky we knew was just boy crazy but losing the boy she loved most sent her spiraling into her worst instincts.  

 

11 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

I think the episode got a lot stronger after the revelation of Becky possibly never having kids, especially once Roseanne stopped shouting her lines. 

It seems like they're keeping it vague because they don't want to give an exact reason, but they did imply that Mark died very suddenly in their 20s if Becky has been this stuck since his death. I really loved the Becky/Darlene moments. I found their sister moments very sweet. I liked Dan standing up to Roseanne, followed by their tense small talk after. I do find it ridiculous that an older woman can't adopt a younger dog. I guess I understand the intent, but since we know the dog was going to Becky at some point, I did feel a little irritated by the woman (though it's her protocol). 

 

10 hours ago, TigerLynx said:

To a certain extent, Becky makes sense.  Becky intended to go to community college when she married Mark.  Things seemed okay for Becky and Mark for a while, but then Mark lost his job.  Which lead to the hilarious conversation between Roseanne and Becky where Roseanne told Becky, "I'm mad at you for making me defend Mark," or something like that.  Then when Roseanne and Dan gave Becky money for college, Becky decided Mark should go to trade school or something like that instead, and Mark failed at that.  It's easy to intend to do something at some point.  Actually doing it, is something else entirely.  I thought maybe Mark died while Becky was in community college, and Becky might have gotten involved with her teachers at that point.  Possibly started drinking and partying to much, forgot about class, and then suddenly several years had gone by.

I grew up with a girl who made good grades all through school, and planned on being a doctor like her father.  She started dating a guy her senior year in high school, and didn't want to go to college without him.  Her father persuaded her to go for the first semester.  She didn't like it, and dropped out.  Her parents were still willing to pay for her to go to college, but she wanted to get married first.  Even though for years her dad offered to pay for her to go to college, she never went.  She's now divorced, has three children, and an ex-husband who never pays child support.  Her parents pay her bills.

I'm thinking maybe Becky gets to point out Darlene's faults when David shows up.  In a lot of ways, Darlene has been a responsible adult, and she wouldn't be the first college educated person to lose their job, and have trouble finding another one, however, Darlene has made mistakes to.

Dan telling Roseanne to backoff was nice.

 

10 hours ago, BitterApple said:

I get Becky being sad, depressed and going through a dark period after Mark's death, but a 20 year spiral seems a bit much. You'd think Roseanne would've given her a tough love talk at some point by telling Becky that what happened was awful, but she was still young and had the potential to make something of herself. As I said in a previous thread, it's not like she was left with kids to support, limiting her options. It's kind of a bummer because I was so attached to young Becky and young Darlene that it sucks to see them living such miserable, crappy lives.

 

9 hours ago, HoboClayton said:

It is a bit much, but, it is real. Some spirals people never get out of sadly.  Honestly, I think we're supposed to just think she did a lot of drugs and drinking and dudes, and is now finally starting to come around again. I don't think there will be much more of a history given to her. I think they'll move on to Darlene and David. 

 

8 hours ago, SparklesBitch said:

Exactly. What is it with their insistence on making Jackie this lonely sad sack who has nothing going on in her life??? At heart, she IS a good person. I can understand being temporarily estranged from your kid for whatever reason, and Wacky Jackie can be a bit much, but she’s nowhere near as insufferable as Bev is.  

 

8 hours ago, threebluestars said:

This episode was really hard for me to watch. I got told a few years ago that I couldn't have kids so seeing Becky breakdown over it made me break down.

That being said ... I really hope they stick with that storyline for her and don't make her magically pregnant. Because there are those of us out there that it won't happen to, and I hope the show keeps it that way. Not everyone gets the ending they want.

 

8 hours ago, aurora296 said:

I really felt for Becky's character because I was told in my 20's if I ever wanted children, I should consult a fertility specialist since my chances were almost impossible of having children on my own. 

I never had a relationship with anyone I truly felt was the one I'd like to be parents with. When Becky said that about Mark being the only guy she ever wanted to try with I nodded with familiar sadness.

But if they end up having Becky get pregnant in a later episode, I personally won't think that's too unrealistic, because I ended up having a fling with an old high school boyfriend, got pregnant through natural conception and gave birth to my one and only child one week before my 46th birthday. 

 

4 hours ago, bamlouie said:

I’m feeling the same frustration. I was hoping that Laurie Metcalf would play her more like the earlier years but seems like they’re going with the S7+ Gilligan caricature she eventually became in the later years (while also stripping her of much of the identity that made her such a great mess of a character in the first place). They’ve been using Jackie in an odd way for me so far, with her inserting herself into conversations with some loosely related remark or factoid. Other than her fight with Roseanne in the first episode back (and maybe a few small moments with Becky tonight) I feel like she hasn’t had a real, grounded conversation that didn’t require her to ham it up.

I did like the talk between Becky and Darlene though. It brought back the love and care between them that the later years of the original run seemed to forget.

I am having so much trouble relating that this is how Becky became. First, we find out in the pilot that she never bothered to get her GED in over 20 years? Sara Chalke's Becky was often portrayed as a bimbo who worked at an off-brand Hooters but Lecy's Becky always had ambition. I imagine she could not even enroll in Community College without a GED (but I could be wrong).

It is also hard to reconcile that this Becky is so stupid that she did not realize lying about her age does not automatically make her eggs 10 years younger. Chalke's character is so rich that she can give away Faberge eggs, but not do a stupid $50 background check on the woman who is going to be her surrogate?

Mark dying is very tragic ( I remember being a little gutted when hearing about the actor's real-life death, though of course I never knew him), but they probably would have divorced in real life anyway. It was foreshadowed when Becky was reapplying to college and it was revealed that she got into  Universtiy of Illinois (I might be wrong about the college name).

Also, I hate the way that single women are always portrayed to be pathetic. Why is it better to be in a marriage and have children that you can not afford to support? Nowadays many women are single by choice and there is nothing wrong with that decision.

This episode made me feel that the show is much stronger with the original cast. I really have not taken to Darlene's kids and have not seen enough of DJ's kid to make a judgement.

[Sakura12]

I liked seeing Becky and Darlene supporting and commiserating like sisters. I also like when they make fun of each other because that is what siblings do. Then when you know your sibling is hurting you go to them and try to comfort them which will usually turn back into making fun of each other until the sibling wants to talk about what's wrong. 

The mentioned his name, so baby steps until finding out how Mark died. I can see Becky going into arrested development after Mark died. And wanting to keep living in her twenties even if that means acting like a current twenty year old with the selfies instead of a twenty year old in her own decade. 

I liked Jackie trying to keep the egg, because Becky won't get 50,000 dollars but she could've got something from that. I guess that's it for second Becky. I thought she'd be on it more. They should've made Becky Bi and had Andrea be her girlfriend. They could've made "look-a-like" jokes about Becky dating a richer, better version of herself. 

With the rescue dog, it's not like Jackie's an senile elderly woman. She looks to be good in health and can take care of a dog. Especially if she's home all the time, that who they want to take a dog. I had to lie to the rescue place to get my dog. I work so I'm not home all the time and my dog fine until I get home from work, just like all my other dogs were. 

[Keywestclubkid]

9 minutes ago, qtpye said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am having so much trouble relating that this is how Becky became. First, we find out in the pilot that she never bothered to get her GED in over 20 years? Sara Chalke's Becky was often portrayed as a bimbo who worked at an off-brand Hooters but Lecy's Becky always had ambition. I imagine she could not even enroll in Community College without a GED (but I could be wrong).

 

Season 8 Becky wants to go to go into the medical field its the one where they live in a trailer  and mark thinks hes going to lose Becky when she gets her GED and goes to college

Edited April 11, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[Mmmfloorpie]

6 minutes ago, qtpye said:

 

Sara Chalke's Becky was often portrayed as a bimbo who worked at an off-brand Hooters but Lecy's Becky always had ambition.

I don't know if I agree with that. Sarah's Becky did work at Buns but that was for a purpose. She was very strong willed in thinking she would work there to put Mark through college and then when Mark had a good job it would be her time for college.

Lecy's Becky is the one that lost all ambition IMO. She didn't care about anything besides running away with Mark and getting married. 

[Sakura12]

I've seen tons of smart people get sucked in by love and lose all their ambition and want to do everything for their boyfriend/girlfriend. Then for Becky it becomes worse when she loses her husband at a young age. She probably spiraled after that and was never really able to dig herself out of it. 

[qtpye]

1 minute ago, Mmmfloorpie said:

I don't know if I agree with that. Sarah's Becky did work at Buns but that was for a purpose. She was very strong willed in thinking she would work there to put Mark through college and then when Mark had a good job it would be her time for college.

Lecy's Becky is the one that lost all ambition IMO. She didn't care about anything besides running away with Mark and getting married. 

Mark was a skilled guy, but anyone could see that he just was not cut out for any type of academia ( I would not have been surprised if he had an undiagnosed learning disability). NuBecky wanted to better Mark, so they could be on the same page when Becky got her degree. When Mark fails out of Trade School, NuBecky is kind of stunned that she is with a guy "who failed out of Trade School". She thought she could mold Mark to be like her and that was just not going to happen.

 

4 minutes ago, Sakura12 said:

I've seen tons of smart people get sucked in by love and lose all their ambition and want to do everything for their boyfriend/girlfriend. Then for Becky it becomes worse when she loses her husband at a young age. She probably spiraled after that and was never really able to dig herself out of it. 

See I never bought that marrying Mark is what got Becky stuck. In the beginning, he was more than happy to support both of them while she got her degree. Later, it was painted that Mark did not want her to move on without him, but that was much later.

[UYI]

23 minutes ago, qtpye said:

Mark dying is very tragic ( I remember being a little gutted when hearing about the actor's real-life death, though of course I never knew him), but they probably would have divorced in real life anyway. It was foreshadowed when Becky was reapplying to college and it was revealed that she got into  Universtiy of Illinois (I might be wrong about the college name).

 

You're right about the college name, but it was said at the time that she had applied to UI around season 4/5, when Becky was still in high school, and got accepted there, and she kept the information, even after she married Mark, and when she considered going back to school in season 8, she got it back out. 

[Chaos Theory]

14 minutes ago, Mmmfloorpie said:

I don't know if I agree with that. Sarah's Becky did work at Buns but that was for a purpose. She was very strong willed in thinking she would work there to put Mark through college and then when Mark had a good job it would be her time for college.

Lecy's Becky is the one that lost all ambition IMO. She didn't care about anything besides running away with Mark and getting married. 

Both Becky’s seemed to have pie in the sky ambition that easily got derailed.  Neither were stupid or bimbos but they tended to get side tracked and were more interested in Mark and their future with him.  So if Mark died young I can see the concept of “future” and family dying with him.

[Chicken Wing]

18 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I am having so much trouble relating that this is how Becky became. First, we find out in the pilot that she never bothered to get her GED in over 20 years? Sara Chalke's Becky was often portrayed as a bimbo who worked at an off-brand Hooters but Lecy's Becky always had ambition. I imagine she could not even enroll in Community College without a GED (but I could be wrong).

 

18 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

24 minutes ago, qtpye said:

 

I am having so much trouble relating that this is how Becky became. First, we find out in the pilot that she never bothered to get her GED in over 20 years? Sara Chalke's Becky was often portrayed as a bimbo who worked at an off-brand Hooters but Lecy's Becky always had ambition. I imagine she could not even enroll in Community College without a GED (but I could be wrong).

 

Season 8 Becky wants to go to go into the medical field its the one where they live in a trailer  and mark thinks hes going to lose Becky when she gets her GED and goes to college

Becky left high school when she eloped with Mark at the beginning of season 5. Roseanne mentioned to Dan afterwards that Becky planned to get her GED and enroll in a junior college in Minnesota (where Becky and Mark initially moved to). We never really heard about it after that -- since Becky essentially left the show at that point -- but when she returned as Sarah Chalke she was enrolling in, and later shown doing homework for, classes at the junior college. You have to have a high school diploma or GED in order to be admitted to a junior/community college so based on the fact that she was in said college in 1993-1994 she had to have gotten her GED. So when Roseanne said Becky never finished high school, I at first assumed she was kidding to get a reaction out of Dan. However, I've resigned myself to the fact that this reboot is playing no homage whatsoever to continuity and pretending that no one has ever watched the original show and/or has no memory, so now I'm thinking that Roseanne was serious and RebootBecky did not finish high school or attend any college classes. We'll just pretend none of that ever happened.

[Keywestclubkid]

4 minutes ago, Chicken Wing said:

I've resigned myself to the fact that this reboot is playing no homage whatsoever to continuity and pretending that no one has ever watched the original show and/or has no memory,

This... And it annoys me so much

[StaceyNotStacie]

In the opening scene, DJ looked like he was unpacking a military bag. I wonder if he is also living there temporarily and they just haven’t acknowledged it or if he is also using their laundry facilities. 

[Chicken Wing]

Where would he and his daughter be staying? With Darlene, Harris and Mark there's no room left.

[Keywestclubkid]

31 minutes ago, Chicken Wing said:

Where would he and his daughter be staying? With Darlene, Harris and Mark there's no room left.

speaking of Harris and Mark why are they never around? lol with such a small house you NEVER see them... i know they did a gag with Darlene shoving Mark into some woman's car who was going on a trip but come on now she has no idea where her kids are at all?  the writers on this show just really dont care i feel lol

Edited April 11, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[Mmmfloorpie]

41 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

This... And it annoys me so much

Me too. I feel whoever is writing for the show is familiar with the concept of Roseanne but not with the "canon" of Roseanne  like they are writing based on the pop culture conceptions of Roseanne but they never put in the time to actually watch the entire series.

They are missing the easy callbacks to the original which really angers me.

19 minutes ago, Chicken Wing said:

Where would he and his daughter be staying? With Darlene, Harris and Mark there's no room left.

In the opening DJ and his daughter come out of the basement door.

16 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

speaking of Harris and Mark why are they never around? lol with such a small house you NEVER see them

Simple answer: they don't have anything for them to do. In Fuller House they dispensed with most of the original cast and they only do cameos. The new kids get more focus because Kimmy/Steph/DJ are the only regulars.

With Roseanne, the show is named after her so the show has to still mainly revolve around her. Involving her also means involving Jackie and Dan. Darlene and Becky have main characters too so there's no time for DJ or Darlenes kids.

I really hope for ONE EPISODE they have a pre title scene where Sarah reprises her role as Becky and Roseanne is like "aren't you that Andrea chick?" and she replies "No mother, I'm your daughter Becky... Don't you recognize me?"

Sadly I don't think the revival is wlling to be as self mocking as the original.

[Zoe]

1 hour ago, Chicken Wing said:

So when Roseanne said Becky never finished high school, I at first assumed she was kidding to get a reaction out of Dan. However, I've resigned myself to the fact that this reboot is playing no homage whatsoever to continuity and pretending that no one has ever watched the original show and/or has no memory, so now I'm thinking that Roseanne was serious and RebootBecky did not finish high school or attend any college classes. We'll just pretend none of that ever happened.

It could be the difference between walking-the-stage graduating and just taking a test to get the GED.

[CletusMusashi]

There are four week links on the show. 

Two are the kids. Harris is not remotely likeable, and Mark's entire personality seems to have been created for one Very Special Episode. So not having them on was a plus. I enjoy the interactions between Roseanne, Dan, Becky, and Darlene, and would much prefer a regular show about them, like we had this week. Too bad the kids are necessary to the setup, since without them Darlene could just get a small crappy apartment and not have to be at Roseanne's house every day.

Third is D.J. At least as a kid he was off-putting enough that they could make jokes aboiut how weird he was. Now the character is like wallpaper. He doesn't annoy me, but even when they give him a funny line, like the dog thing, he just isn't interesting or funny.

And fourth, I hate to admit, is Jackie. She used to be a crazy mess, but in a plausible enough way that she seemed like a real person bein driven nuts. Now, they're cranking up the crazy so much that she doesn't even seem like she's on the same show as the others. It's too bad. I'd like her to take it down a notch and have the show revolve around five characters, not four. But the writers seem to think for some reason that their sitcom needs a comedy relief character, so they've turned her into some kind of extremely depressed, yet still extremely manic, Kramer from "Seinfeld." This is the character peeve that bothers me the most. Because the Jackie/ Roseanne dynamic used to be one of the cornerstones of what made the original show great.