Spoilers and Speculation: Clink Boom and Cheese Fondue

[TeeVee329]

12 hours ago, Mrs. Stanwyck said:

The difference is that Liz fell for and pursued a relationship with Jake Doe before she knew he was "Jason".  Can't defend her behavior once she found out but she did not initially know what was going on.  Kim doesn't have the same excuse.

I'll give you fell for, but there was no actual pursuing of a relationship until after she knew.  She took him to bed about a half hour after finding out he was "Jason".

8 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I agree with what Mrs. Stanwyck said, but I think this situation is worse - it makes both FrancoDrew and Kim look awful. 

It's a bonkers avenue to go with Kim, given we're just coming off her attempting to rape the real article, now the show is putting her in a position with murky consent questions?  Do they hate Tamara Braun?

[TeeVee329]

8 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Is it a retcon that the relationship was so hot and heavy that Kim is thinking about rekindling it now? I thought that once they learned Drew would be shipping out, they agreed things should end and there were basically no hard feelings. Yet suddenly Kim is macking on Frew like he's some sort of lifeline. HE NEVER KNEW OSCAR. 

I really liked that Kim's attitude in the beginning was basically, "I knew this dude a zillion years ago, there's no particular need to go there again now."  This relationship retcon reminds me a smidge of Rex and Gigi on OLTL, who went from bored friends who slept together to SOULMATES whose love stood the tests of time and space and death and blah blah blah.

Edited September 5, 2019 by TeeVee329

[makelemons]

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

Do they hate Tamara Braun?

Supposedly FV loves her.... so I'm not sure what the endgame here is.....but I'm guessing he won't be telling RoHo to shove potato skins unexpectedly into her mouth right before a monologue. 

[ffwbe]

I get the feeling that they think Kim comes off more sympathetic than she actually does. A lot of the twitter posts from GH and FV about her role in this SL and Drew’s attempted rape seem to indicate that. Stuff like look at what her grief over Oscar is causing her to do

[TeeVee329]

Read a disgusting spoiler on Twitter that next week Scotty goes to Sonny for help keeping Franco in town.

You read that right.  Scotty goes to SONNY, WHO HE HAS CONSISTENTLY DESPISED FOR YEARS for help keeping Franco, HIS CRAPPY RETCON SON OF FIVE MINUTES, in town.

[LexieLily]

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Read a disgusting spoiler on Twitter that next week Scotty goes to Sonny for help keeping Franco in town.

You read that right.  Scotty goes to SONNY, WHO HE HAS CONSISTENTLY DESPISED FOR YEARS for help keeping Franco, HIS CRAPPY RETCON SON OF FIVE MINUTES, in town.

Scotty would rather ask Kevin for help than Sonny and he doesn't much care for Kevin.

What the heck is Sonny supposed to do about it? Stand menacingly behind Franco with a gun and threaten to shoot him unless he stays in town?

[RedRockRosie]

15 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Read a disgusting spoiler on Twitter that next week Scotty goes to Sonny for help keeping Franco in town.

You read that right.  Scotty goes to SONNY, WHO HE HAS CONSISTENTLY DESPISED FOR YEARS for help keeping Franco, HIS CRAPPY RETCON SON OF FIVE MINUTES, in town.

Doesn't Scotty still blame Sonny for the death of his daughter Karen ffs? (& rightly so in my opinion.)😥

I hate these damn dumb retcons. No way Scotty would E V E R  ask Sonny for help. Bad enough we're supposed to believe he is Franco's father. Really?🤪

This show  *sigh*🙄

[ffwbe]

This almost makes me miss the Guza years. Even though Sonny still won most of the time, at least the majority of characters were allowed to hate him and call him out on his crap. Nowadays, everyone basically bows at his feet except maybe Ava and Julian

[dubbel zout]

14 hours ago, LexieLily said:

What the heck is Sonny supposed to do about it? Stand menacingly behind Franco with a gun and threaten to shoot him unless he stays in town?

Also, why would Sonny care? He hates Franco in any incarnation.

[LexieLily]

1 minute ago, dubbel zout said:

Also, why would Sonny care? He hates Franco in any incarnation.

He doesn't give a crap about Drew, either.

[dubbel zout]

10 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

11 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Also, why would Sonny care? He hates Franco in any incarnation.

He doesn't give a crap about Drew, either.

Seriously. It would make more sense if Elizabeth were the one to ask Sonny for help, though again, I haven't the faintest idea what Sonny could do. Maybe he could lock Frew in a cage.

[nilyank]

32 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Seriously. It would make more sense if Elizabeth were the one to ask Sonny for help, though again, I haven't the faintest idea what Sonny could do. Maybe he could lock Frew in a cage.

Even if Elizabeth did ask, why wouldn't Sonny think that she would be better off without Dranco around and just try halfheartedly to convince him to stay.

[ulkis]

I suppose we're supposed to think of this as Scott making a sacrifice for his son, hurl. (Was there ever a paternity test?)

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, nilyank said:

Even if Elizabeth did ask, why wouldn't Sonny think that she would be better off without Dranco around

Sonny has always had a soft spot for Elizabeth. He'd probably make some comment about Frew being worthless, but I think he'd make a genuine effort to help her.

[Melgaypet]

22 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Read a disgusting spoiler on Twitter that next week Scotty goes to Sonny for help keeping Franco in town.

You read that right.  Scotty goes to SONNY, WHO HE HAS CONSISTENTLY DESPISED FOR YEARS for help keeping Franco, HIS CRAPPY RETCON SON OF FIVE MINUTES, in town.

For fuck's sake. Scott would sooner cut his own throat than ask Sonny for help. I'm pretty sure he'd rather ask Luke for help. And why would Sonny help Scotty anyway? What's in it for him to keep Franco around?

[Hater]

Kim and Drewco have sex next week (Monday and Tuesday are the days they're on together).

[LexieLily]

6 minutes ago, Hater said:

Kim and Drewco have sex next week (Monday and Tuesday are the days they're on together).

Yeesh. When it all comes to light Elizabeth is going to screech about how (rightfully) horrible it was what Kim did, taking advantage of a mentally impaired man that doesn't know his true identity for her own selfish desires, without realizing what Kim has done is no different than what she herself did to Jake Doe.

[YaddaYadda]

The hell is wrong with Kim? Was she conked on the head? She's gross, but it was just a matter of time before the writers shoved her ass in the gutter.

[Bringonthedrama]

1 hour ago, LexieLily said:

Elizabeth is going to screech about how (rightfully) horrible it was what Kim did, taking advantage of a mentally impaired man that doesn't know his true identity for her own selfish desires, without realizing what Kim has done is no different than what she herself did to Jake Doe.

A) Thanks for the warning; I know now not to watch those days. So much ew.

B) Kim's actions are worse because she's straight up using FrancoDrew due to his false memories making her feel good about her past, and she's disrespecting her son's father as well as the memory of her late son.  Franco does not have a connection to her past, did not have a relationship with her son, and she has never had any interest in Franco as a person.  Franco has been a hospital colleague and her friend Elizabeth's significant other - that's it. While Elizabeth lying to Jakeson/Drew when they had sex was wrong, she was invested in him as her patient and then as a love interest before Nikolas told her he was Jason. Then she believed they had all this history/that Jake's father had come back. Both Jakeson/Drew and Jason have willfully connected with Elizabeth at various times while BM and SBu have been on the Show. Franco was socially/professionally sort of friendly with Kim because she was a colleague, because she and Drew were co-parenting Oscar, because of Elizabeth's friendship with her and also because of stepson-to-be Cam's friendship with Oscar. But Franco and Kim did not personally seek each other out to connect, let alone become attracted to each other. 

This is as absurd as if the Show wanted to claim that Chase wound up with Lucky's youthful memories and therefore Elizabeth wants him because he remembers the best of her, or that Mac wound up with Alan's memories and therefore Monica wants him because it's a way of getting back what she lost.  

Edited September 11, 2019 by Bringonthedrama

[TeeVee329]

What a gross plot development.  Why is this happening, and why so close to Kim drugging and attempting to rape the real Drew because it makes whatever spin the show is going to attempt re: her actions even less credible.  My gawd poor Tamara Braun.

Also?  Why so soon?  Franco's been thinking he's Drew for, what, three weeks?  This is a soap, develop it out a bit.  Have Kim struggle and resist before she goes there, if she has to go there at all.

Edited September 11, 2019 by TeeVee329

[Hater]

They probably want to give Liz a Christmas miracle so they're rushing it.

[WendyCR72]

6 minutes ago, Hater said:

They probably want to give Liz a Christmas miracle so they're rushing it.

"Joy and rapture! My hubby remembers he is a serial killer and now we resume our twu fated wuv!" Kill me now.

[TeeVee329]

And we have to assume Kim will get knocked up, yes?

[WendyCR72]

1 minute ago, TeeVee329 said:

And we have to assume Kim will get knocked up, yes?

We need a vomit emoji in the "like" options.

[Hater]

24 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

And we have to assume Kim will get knocked up, yes?

Looks like it. Christmas "Franco is Back"  she shows up at Friz's door "I'm pregnant!"

Edited September 11, 2019 by Hater

[tvgoddess]

2 hours ago, Hater said:

Kim and Drewco have sex next week (Monday and Tuesday are the days they're on together).

Certainly didn't take long. I knew it would happen, just not this soon. Way to go, Frank.

[YaddaYadda]

1 hour ago, Hater said:

They probably want to give Liz a Christmas miracle so they're rushing it.

The writers have a poor idea of what constitutes a miracle. 

[ulkis]

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

What a gross plot development.  Why is this happening, and why so close to Kim drugging and attempting to rape the real Drew because it makes whatever spin the show is going to attempt re: her actions even less credible.  My gawd poor Tamara Braun.

I think that was the point. The Drew stuff was the first taste of crazy.

I hate Friz, so anything to break them up for a while, fine. But probably he gets his memories but oops, Kim is pregnant and crazy.

[statsgirl]

5 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I have a suggestion for a formal adoption: Monica adopts Scout. It will help Monica with missing the real Drew, not this time capsule in an asshole's body. It's not like Sam would notice. 

And Monica really needs family who cares about her, and it may keep Scout from being kidnapped like all the other Corinthos/Morgan kids have been.

2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

And we have to assume Kim will get knocked up, yes?

And she will be so delusional as to think that the baby is a remake of Oscar.

I've reached the stage where I'm feeling sorry for Kim. (I've been feeling sorry for TB for the past year.)  She's got serious mental health issues that make everyone else's issues on the show pale in comparison.

[dubbel zout]

I guess she's stopped seeing her therapist? Or else said therapist is Lainey-levels of terrible.

[Bringonthedrama]

Sam remembering that Drew is Scout's father and being hostile-ish with Elizabeth and Hayden would mean more if she had appeared to give a damn about Drew in recent history or had not been able to go through with the Shiloh scam because of the traumatic memories of Franco. Then Jax summoned her and she was talking to him like he had abruptly woken her from a nap.

Can't watch the FrancoDrew and Kim scenes anymore; just flat out creepy.

Here's a thought, Lulu and Olivia: maybe a kid's birthday party should be held at a kid-oriented place with games and other activities so as to keep him busy when you know he's been missing his father. Julian/Grandma's bar is not an appropriate location. Also, why is his birthday party happening on the high school's first day of school and why is the only recognizable kid guest Rocco's half-sister? I was thinking hey Rocco's cousins Jake and Aiden should have showed up escorted by Laura or Cam. 

[sunnyface]

Because the writers aren't up to the task of making criminal THUG Jason more nuanced, they are doubling down and bringing his main cheerleader back for a spin this week.  source.

[Cheyanne11]

4 hours ago, sunnyface said:

Because the writers aren't up to the task of making criminal THUG Jason more nuanced, they are doubling down and bringing his main cheerleader back for a spin this week.  source.

He's like nails on a chalkboard.  Can't wait for his total non-reaction that Drew, aka the man he was convinced was Jason because of his ass, is presumed dead.

[dubbel zout]

Sam is barely bothered by Drew's disappearance; why should Spin be? Nina showed more emotion about it.

[tvgoddess]

This week's promo: don't say I didn't warn you.

[TeeVee329]

I hope Tamara Braun is practicing good self-care and taking herself off social media now. 

[dubbel zout]

Seriously. Poor Tams. She really got the short stick here, heh.

[Oracle42]

I'm surprised FV has held off so long on giving Franco a biological child. Welp, it's better than Liz having a 4th baby daddy.

[WendyCR72]

On 9/16/2019 at 6:01 AM, sunnyface said:

Because the writers aren't up to the task of making criminal THUG Jason more nuanced, they are doubling down and bringing his main cheerleader back for a spin this week.  source.

*Thanks lucky stars AGAIN that I no longer subject myself to this show* But UGH.

[Peppermint Patty]

Based on a comment on Coby Ryan McLaughlin's (Shiloh) Instagram, it looks like he is leaving GH. A fan said they hoped Shiloh would be getting more storylines soon, and CRM responded that "All good things must come to an end" and that he is working on something new.

I'm really disappointed, but not surprised, since they've pretty much explored all they can with the character.

[GHScorpiosRule]

20 minutes ago, Peppermint Patty said:

Based on a comment on Coby Ryan McLaughlin's (Shiloh) Instagram, it looks like he is leaving GH

Yeah. Not a fan. Can you tell?

[dubbel zout]

I'm glad he's leaving only because I hate that the show keeps on characters way past their sell-by date. Shiloh should not be a long-term resident of the show.

[tvgoddess]

I like CRM, but yeah. See ya, Shiloh.

[TeeVee329]

Agreed, he did some good work in a thankless role, particularly in the beginning, but it's time.

Edited September 19, 2019 by TeeVee329

[BlancheDevoreaux]

I have enjoyed CRM as an actor and thought the Shiloh story was interesting at first, but it's done. I'm sure that Jason will be the hero at the end and end up killing Shiloh or being responsible for him being put wes away for life, so that's annoying. Maybe, though, when Jason kills him we can get a good action scene with Sonny involved. You know, Sonny overpowering someone with a gun or kicking in a door our something. Those are always good for a laugh.

[ciarra]

I like the Shiloh actor.  And anyone who sticks it to Sam and her sister, Lemonface, is good in my books. 

Are they going to set up a murder mystery?  I'm thinking LWB offs Shiloh to shut him up.

[dubbel zout]

7 minutes ago, ciarra said:

Are they going to set up a murder mystery?  I'm thinking LWB offs Shiloh to shut him up.

I wouldn't be surprised if we see Shiloh again down the road sometime, given how this fakakta show loves to bring back characters.

[statsgirl]

I can't remember who suggested that Shiloh getting murdered and a whodunit trying to figure it out, but it's a lot more interesting that what appears to be going to happen now.

[Bringonthedrama]

1 hour ago, ciarra said:

Are they going to set up a murder mystery?  I'm thinking LWB offs Shiloh to shut him up.

I figured Nelle (with Ryan's help) would kill him before the Peter minion gets the opportunity as hinted today. We shall see. A murder mystery seems like the natural next step, but who knows with this Show. 

[BlancheDevoreaux]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

I wouldn't be surprised if we see Shiloh again down the road sometime, given how this fakakta show loves to bring back characters.

Watch them bring back Drew under the storyline that he was abducted after the plane crash and had plastic surgery performed on him to look like Shiloh because... reasons.