"The View": Week Of 2/5/18

[backformore]

Sabato doesn't think it's insulting to call Obama a Muslim.  NO, it's not insulting if he IS Muslim. But saying he is Muslim when he says he is Christian, IS an insult.  He changed his name?  WTF? 

This guy comes across as STUPID as hell.   there are no qualifications necessary to run for public office, according to him.   Just be proud to be American.  And he's a big hypocrite about immigrants.  He's also mistaken about DACA, describing dreamers as "born in this country." NO, Dreamers are people like you, who came here as children.  

That soap opera clip -  Donna Mills!  Abby from Knots Landing!   I guess we know now, where all the Hollywood has-beens are hanging out.  

[General Days]

9 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

I was glad to see that Whitney Cummings has apparently stopped her Chelsea Handler wannabe act.  I usually can’t stand her but didn’t mind her today.

Is that why I didn't hate her this time?

 When I saw she was the guest co-host, I made sure I had Supernatural on TNT loaded up on the other TiVo tuner, so I could make a quick switch and rewind to the starting point. Then I not only didn't mind her, I kind of appreciated her input. 

 

1 minute ago, backformore said:

That soap opera clip -  Donna Mills!  Abby from Knots Landing!   I guess we know now, where all the Hollywood has-beens are hanging out.  

 

I'm overly concerned about Donna Mills. She was on General Hospital as recently as a couple of years ago (but her role sucked). It's hard for women above a certain age to get work, but damn. That soap looked terrible. 

[Apprentice79]

2 minutes ago, backformore said:

Sabato doesn't think it's insulting to call Obama a Muslim.  NO, it's not insulting if he IS Muslim. But saying he is Muslim when he says he is Christian, IS an insult.  He changed his name?  WTF? 

This guy comes across as STUPID as hell.   there are no qualifications necessary to run for public office, according to him.   Just be proud to be American.  And he's a big hypocrite about immigrants.  He's also mistaken about DACA, describing dreamers as "born in this country." NO, Dreamers are people like you, who came here as children.  

That soap opera clip -  Donna Mills!  Abby from Knots Landing!   I guess we know now, where all the Hollywood has-beens are hanging out.  

Antonio Sabato Jr has also forgotten that he came to this country and spoke no English. Plus, Italians, especially, those, from Southern Italy, faced discrimination, when they got here.. 

I hope that the people on here in California will vote and make sure that this moron does not hold office.. Any idiot can run for office now. Sad!

[backformore]

Sabato's thing about Obama changing his name - that he used to call himself "Barry" was ridiculous.   My husband used to go by "Tommy", now he goes by Tom, but professionally he is Thomas.   Should I be concerned that he's a secret Muslim?  

[ari333]

Wow I am so glad Sabato Jr came on this show to expose himself as a flaming idiot, for those who didn't already know. Yikes.

13 minutes ago, backformore said:

Sabato's thing about Obama changing his name - that he used to call himself "Barry" was ridiculous.   My husband used to go by "Tommy", now he goes by Tom, but professionally he is Thomas.   Should I be concerned that he's a secret Muslim?  

I know, right? Wow it is called a nickname. Sheesh.

[blondiec0332]

So is Meghan's new word cataclysmic?

[ari333]

9 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

So is Meghan's new word cataclysmic?

Maybe somebody gave her one of those wordy a day calendars. 

[lexytheblasian]

1 hour ago, OnTime said:

In case anyone missed it or didn't know, Meghan has worked in politics her ENTIRE life.

She reminded us today.

I had to re-watch the clip to make sure I heard her correctly. Meggy, YOU have not "worked in politics" your whole life. YOU were born into a family with a father who happens to be a politician. She must be super insecure about her place in the world, making comments like that. Maybe she misspoke but she likes to make herself seem like some sort of expert in all things politics. 

1 hour ago, Apprentice79 said:

I implore you guys to read on Pence's disastrous homophobic policies in Indiana.  It is chilling. 

I read about him during the 2016 election and yep, he's a certified creepy a-hole nut job. 

1 hour ago, General Days said:

Joy asked Sabato about his claim that Obama is a Muslim. "If he's not a Muslim, we should call him President Barry, then." Um???

That was one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. As Sunny and Joy said, there is no evidence that he's a Muslim. And even if he is - so the hell what? I also noticed Meggy didn't give him any push back about his claims, just Joy and Sunny. Not surprised, though.

Edited February 8, 2018 by lexytheblasian

[Tosia]

I, for one, am so glad MM switched words from "salacious ".  Finally.

FLOVED Joy and Sunny grilling beefcake Sabato.  

Another maroon..

[blondiec0332]

47 minutes ago, backformore said:

Sabato doesn't think it's insulting to call Obama a Muslim.  NO, it's not insulting if he IS Muslim. But saying he is Muslim when he says he is Christian, IS an insult.  He changed his name?  WTF? 

So Sabato wasn't insulting President Obama?  OK so you were just calling  him a liar.

 

And President Obama didn't change his name to Obama.  It was his father's surname.

[Medicine Crow]

20 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

So is Meghan's new word cataclysmic?

So, Meggie, if you're going to toss out the word of the day, KNOW what it means ... dumb bitch!!

From Quora.com:  "A cataclysm means something more Earth-shaking like a devastatingly-(possibly) fatal earthquake (and/or intense flood or explosive cinders/ashes fallout, or lava flow). When a catastrophe occurs, it may be a news story, but maybe not. When a cataclysm occurs, it's always front-page news. There is no such parallel notion here, like a ‘minor cataclysm.’

The giant meteorite that killed all the dinosaurs on Earth so many millions of years ago was a truly cataclysmic event.

A catastrophe means something akin to “events have spiraled out of control. The usual order is disrupted.”

But not every catastrophe is necessarily tragic. This is why we also have the phrase “a minor catastrophe” which can even be used casually along with the phrase “has been avoided.” A pro hair stylist might say that an amateur’s failed attempt at hair-cutting is a catastrophe (obviously it's intense to them, but no one dies)."

[CheezyXpressed]

I liked Whitney today and thought that for the most part it was a pretty good show.

I don't like the actor guy though. His acting, at least from the clip shown, doesn't seem all that great. Plus I hated that he said nothing. It was just veterans this, second amendment, America first, I love my country and the president, and nothing else. And the whole thing about Obama....Obama is a Muslim because his name isn't Barry? I wonder how this guy feels about all of the Arab Christians and Jews with Arabic sounding names? Plus, he said that he's a Jew who is now a Christian, but Obama is a Muslim because once you're Muslim you're always Muslim...that's not how the religion works. And even then, what's wrong with being a Muslim? The whole conversation was so stupid.

 

On 2/7/2018 at 1:06 PM, blondiec0332 said:

Star did counter her by naming Paul Manafort as also being considered treasonous 

I know, but I just wanted a bit more.

[PradaKitty]

Sabato is a.ithering idiot. 

Blithering idiot! 

[ari333]

Did Sabato say he was running for office in California? Surely he wont make it in . 

That Dias child (forgot her first name) was delightful

[lexytheblasian]

2 minutes ago, ari333 said:

Did Sabato say he was running for office in California? Surely he wont make it in . 

That Dias child (forgot her first name) was delightful

Yeah, he claims he's getting a lot of support in his district. I'm curious about which district he's referring to because I can't imagine a state like Cali would agree with anything his crazy ass has to say.

[Silver Raven]

Sabato seems to be operating under the illusion that he has the election in the bag. He has to make it out of the primary, which is an open primary and if there's more than one Democrat running (the incumbent in his district is a Democrat), he may not even make it to the general election.

[blondiec0332]

2 minutes ago, Silver Raven said:

Sabato seems to be operating under the illusion that he has the election in the bag.

He is a celebrity.  He probably thinks voters will vote for him simply for that reason.  As been mentioned many times in this thread he is an idiot.

[General Days]

22 hours ago, backformore said:

Sabato's thing about Obama changing his name - that he used to call himself "Barry" was ridiculous.   My husband used to go by "Tommy", now he goes by Tom, but professionally he is Thomas.   Should I be concerned that he's a secret Muslim?  

It truly was. 

I feel compelled to recap/transcribe more of it, from those of us playing along at work, who couldn'twatch. They opened with a clip of Antonio Sabato Jr. speaking at the 2016 Republican National Convention. Then Meghan positively glowed as she introduced him (and said she remembered working with him at FOX). She lobbed him a softball about what he likes about Trump. Next, he explained that he's of both Italian and Czech descent. There was the foolishness about the blackballing/blacklisting and how losing your agent and management is exactly the same as fleeing the Holocaust. Then he pimped his congressional run.

Then Sunny took the reins. 

NOTE: If dialogue appears on the same line, it was crosstalk (and that is what I could make out of said crosstalk). I also didn't transcribe ums and uhs and other filler, except where such things felt telling to me. 

SH: I have to press you, because one thing that was surprising to me is that you -- during an interview with ABC news -- said that President Obama is a Muslim. Do you think that has anything to do with the black...listing?

AS [Who had started to interrupt Sunny mid-question, then talked over the end of it]:  No. I never thought it was anything bad. I think -- there's millions of Muslims around the world, so I felt it was never an insult. I mean -- I'm Jewish. I became a Christian, and I felt that Obama -- I mean -- if he's not a Muslim, we should call him "President Barry," then, you know? It's...

JB: But he's not a Muslim. / SH: He's not a Muslim.

JB: It so happens he's not. / SH: You understand that.

AS: Well, maybe it was my mistake then, or whatever... / JB: It was.

AS: But I think that I uh -- I never meant  -- I never meant -- you know I--I--I like the President. I liked 'im as a person -- his family. They're good people *[he shook his head "no" as he said this], so for me it was never an insult like that.

SH: So, you understand he's not Muslim?

AS: Okay [chuckles], then he's not. 

[Audience laughs quietly]

JB: Do you -- get that? We've seen his birth certificate**. Um -- he was born in Hawaii / AS: No, what I-- what I--

AS: What I was saying was-- what I was saying was-- he changed his name to "Obama" because he followed the Islam religion, when he was growing up. So I felt that, you know, once you're in that religion, you stay for the rest of your life. 

SH: There's-- there's-- there's no evidence of... that. / JB: There's no evidence of that -- whatsoever. 

AS: Okay. That's fine. That's fine. Listen, right now we have issues that are different from what we had in the past. So I think we need to focus on that right now. We have some really serious issues -- uh -- in relations [not a typo] to our country. We need to uh... [nods]

JB: But it's important not to propagate fake news.

[Audience stars to applaud]

AS: No, it was never like that. [Audience is positively cheering now -- for Joy's point, not underwear boy's]

Joy finally takes pity on him, changes the subject to his congressional run, notes he started on GH (they showed a shot of Brenda and Jagger) and a Calvin Klein model (underwear shots) and asked him how his history qualifies him to run for Congress (adding she didn't mean to be snarky).

His answer, "I don't think you really have any qualifications to run." And that? Might have been the most sensible part of his answer, so I'm done.

I think Meghan picked it up from there. I would have loved a shot of her face during the nonsense, because I bet even she couldn't buy into his bullshit.

FOOTNOTES:

* "AS: They're good people *[he shook his head "no" as he said this], so for me it was never an insult like that." 

Shaking your head no when you're saying something is often a "tell" that you don't believe what you're saying.

 

** "JB: Do you -- get that? We've seen his birth certificate**. Um -- he was born in Hawaii"

I think this was a misstep on Joy's part, which was a damned shame. She conflated birther-ism/born in Kenya claims with the claims that President Obama is a Muslim. I understand why, they usually go hand in hand, but they are two distinct bigoted lies meant to stir up Obama hatred among racists, religious bigots, and xenophobes. 

What she should have said is that we saw that his name was "Barack Obama" on his birth certificate. He didn't change any name any more than backformore's husband did.

Too bad they didn't have someone on who's a name/word geek. I would have liked to see someone appeal to Sabato's Jewish heritage and point out that "barack," which means "blessed" in Arabic is pretty much the same word as "baruch/barukh," which he probably said in his childhood prayers, since it means "blessed," in Hebrew.

I also wanted to someone to point out that Barry seems like a perfectly reasonable "Americanized" nickname for a kid named Barack, but that the last name is Obama on the birth cert -- so there was no name change you twit.

(I'm thinking President Obama might have used his stepfather's surname when he was living with him in Indonesia, and that's probably what underwear boy thinks he's talking about, but even so attending a step-parent's house of worship or using his last name for a time is hardly a lifelong conversion). 

 

Anyhow, by the end of that exchange, I think Sunny and Joy were flabbergasted by how stupid he is and felt nearly as bad for him, as they did sickened by him. 

Edited February 9, 2018 by General Days
word omission

[ari333]

8 minutes ago, Silver Raven said:

Sabato seems to be operating under the illusion that he has the election in the bag. He has to make it out of the primary, which is an open primary and if there's more than one Democrat running (the incumbent in his district is a Democrat), he may not even make it to the general election.

Maybe the universe will handle it :-) I found him repulsive. Loved the little girl though. ANd Whoopi seemed slightly less annoying

[sugarbaker design]

Great post, General Days.  Thanks for clearing it up.

[ari333]

Sabato -- Losing your agent is the same as Nazi Germany. Alrighty then. yikes

[Meatball]

15 minutes ago, Silver Raven said:

Sabato seems to be operating under the illusion that he has the election in the bag. He has to make it out of the primary, which is an open primary and if there's more than one Democrat running (the incumbent in his district is a Democrat), he may not even make it to the general election.

Please let us know who the Democrat is, if he even makes it that far, so I can donate all I can to them, as well as send postcards to registered dems in the area.

[Apprentice79]

13 minutes ago, General Days said:

I also wanted to someone to point out that Barry seems like a perfectly reasonable "Americanized" nickname for a kid named Barack, but that the last name is Obama on the birth cert -- so there was no name change you twit.

A lot of people with foreign names, growing up, in the states, will Americanized their names, to make it easier for people who cannot pronounce it.  You get tired of people butchering your name and having to constantly correct them.  There is nothing nefarious about it..  I have done it and so have other people.. I am sure Antonio has done it as well.  Tony comes to mind, in regards to, his Italian name, Antonio..

Edited February 8, 2018 by Apprentice79

[GHScorpiosRule]

13 minutes ago, lexytheblasian said:

Yeah, he claims he's getting a lot of support in his district. I'm curious about which district he's referring to because I can't imagine a state like Cali would agree with anything his crazy ass has to say.

He's proven himself to be a delusional fool, who believes and is drunk on his own brand of Krazy Kook-Aid*.

*That ain't no typo! And yes, I realize I used a double negative. What'syerpoint?

9 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

He is a celebrity.  He probably thinks voters will vote for him simply for that reason.  As been mentioned many times in this thread he is an idiot.

Whodathunkit? I posted this elsewhere, that though he wasn't/isn't the greatest actor, his stint as Jagger, with respect to playing Stone's brother, and a father to a boy who was autistic on Night Shift, he wasn't bad. That one movie he did post-GH, playing a Navy SEAL, wasn't too bad. He was okay on his guest stint on NCIS a few years ago.  But the Kray-Kray done gone and warped his brain. 

[sugarbaker design]

9 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

But the Kray-Kray done gone and warped his brain.

I blame that tight Calvin Klein underwear!

[Haleth]

22 minutes ago, lexytheblasian said:

Yeah, he claims he's getting a lot of support in his district. I'm curious about which district he's referring to because I can't imagine a state like Cali would agree with anything his crazy ass has to say.

Devin Nunes is from CA. 

[Tunia]

I never heard of Antonio Sabato, Jr. before today.  I hope to never hear of him again.

[Apprentice79]

Just now, Tunia said:

I never heard of Antonio Sabato, Jr. before today.  I hope to never hear of him again.

Hopefully, the voters in California will send him back into obscurity...I swear all of the nuts are running for office. 

[lexytheblasian]

5 minutes ago, Haleth said:

Devin Nunes is from CA. 

I had no idea. =0

Well, every state has their idiot tribe, I guess...

Edited February 8, 2018 by lexytheblasian

[General Days]

3 minutes ago, Haleth said:

Devin Nunes is from CA. 

Well, and Sabato's wife (could be an ex-wife by now, not sure) -- her last name is Nunes. I noticed when I looked on IMDb. I couldn't find a link between them (but that doesn't mean they're not cousins or something). 

3 minutes ago, Tunia said:

I never heard of Antonio Sabato, Jr. before today.  I hope to never hear of him again.

He was the white hottie snogging Janet Jackson in her "Love Will Never Do Without You" video.

 

[sugarbaker design]

7 minutes ago, General Days said:

He was the white hottie snogging Janet Jackson in her "Love Will Never Do Without You" video.

His finest performance.

[Silver Raven]

Sabato is running in the 26th Congressional district of California.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California's_26th_congressional_district

 

The incumbent is Democrat Julia Brownley.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Brownley

 

Say Good Night Kevin, who is a Christian who reviews Christian movies from a Christian viewpoint, did a reaction to the first episode of Sabato's new Christian soap opera, Hilton Head Island.  He was not pleased.  I did have some objections to his laughing at the soap opera tropes instead of just dealing with this episode, but here's his reaction:

[sugarbaker design]

39 minutes ago, Silver Raven said:

Say Good Night Kevin, who is a Christian who reviews Christian movies from a Christian viewpoint,

So diverse!

[Tammee]

On 2/6/2018 at 1:21 PM, CheezyXpressed said:

 

I do have a question for everyone though, but is it just me or does the show feel shorter? It seems like they're going to commercial breaks way too often before any discussion can continue. Maybe it's because of Meghan taking up most of the conversation, I don't know, but it feels shorter and it's been like this for awhile now.

Ive had that very same feeling. ..

[Richard]

Antonio's new soap opera looks like, at best, a film school project by a C- student. 

[Silver Raven]

13 minutes ago, sugarbaker design said:

So diverse!

I'm sorry?

[Catnip]

3 hours ago, lexytheblasian said:

I had no idea. =0

Well, every state has their idiot tribe, I guess...

 

Gawd I laughed when I read this! 

Edited February 8, 2018 by Catnip

[atlantaloves]

He should poop in his calvins. 

[GHScorpiosRule]

4 minutes ago, 17wheatthins said:

----reported for bad grammar

??

 

[ChicagoCita]

8 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

Obama called himself Barry, so that he can fit in with his peers. Those of us with funny names can relate to that..

My parents gave me an unusual name that I like, but I always thought it was an adult name. I used a cutesy derivative of it until I turned 30, and then started using my full birth name. My feeling is that -- for different reasons -- Barack did the same thing. I'm sure Antonio has used derivatives of his name with no one questioning his motives. Ditto for Ricky / Enrique Martin. Such a silly point for him to try to make! Not a smart one, that one.

[Stacee]

9 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

A lot of people with foreign names, growing up, in the states, will Americanized their names, to make it easier for people who cannot pronounce it.  You get tired of people butchering your name and having to constantly correct them.  There is nothing nefarious about it..  I have done it and so have other people.. 

Agreed. I have an unusual first name and used a variant because I got tired of the constant questions, weird looks and mispronunciation I got from it growing up.  I'm sure Pres. Obama did the same. 

 

Ex Gov Bobby Jindal's real first name is Piyush. Nikki Haley's is Nimrata. I guess they are secret Muslims too, based on Saboto's line of thinking.

[twoods]

Sabozo better not get close to winning his district. California is already embarrassed by Nunez, Ed Royce, Issa, Dana R. and Mimi Walters. He really thinks he will win because he's a "hot actor", doesn't he?  Hey Elsa, this is one of "your" Republicans you're always screeching about. 

[bannana]

21 minutes ago, twoods said:

Sabozo better not get close to winning his district. California is already embarrassed by Nunez, Ed Royce, Issa, Dana R. and Mimi Walters. He really thinks he will win because he's a "hot actor", doesn't he?  Hey Elsa, this is one of "your" Republicans you're always screeching about. 

She did tweet the day before he aired on the View, and signed it off with, "my friend".

[JakeyJokes]

I wish Joy would have been able to speak more during the Adam Rippon discussion, but good for Whoopi and Whitney for reframing the topic. No, Meghan McCain, this is not an issue of "learning" from the other side. I am viscerally upset that someone who once posed for a No H8 photo shoot thinks that this issue is comparable to disagreeing with your friend about something important but impersonal to who you are AS A PERSON.

I have a few evangelical relatives and acquaintances. They don't believe in marriage equality. That sucks, but we co-exist and take pictures at holidays and enjoy each other's company.

No one in my family was a governor of a state that signed a bill allowing businesses to deny service to gay people based on "religious freedom" that was not only fundamentally ridiculous but also lost millions of dollars for his state when conventions and corporations refused to do business there.

Whoopi made a great point about "the photo-op", because had Adam Rippon done so, it would have made him a pariah on gay social media (seen as complicit) and implicitly told gay kids that this shit is okay.

[Haleth]

4 hours ago, JakeyJokes said:

No one in my family was a governor of a state that signed a bill allowing businesses to deny service to gay people based on "religious freedom" that was not only fundamentally ridiculous but also lost millions of dollars for his state when conventions and corporations refused to do business there.

Even though RFRA was amended in IN the repercussions continue.  Amazon is looking for a new place to build a second headquarters and Indy is in the running... except that pesky little bias against people of various sexual orientations thing may quash the whole deal.  Thanks a lot, Mike.

So it was insulting for Meghan to imply that Rippon had a patriotic duty to meet with Pence.  I applaud him for his "no thanks."

[GHScorpiosRule]

7 hours ago, twoods said:

Sabozo better not get close to winning his district. California is already embarrassed by Nunez, Ed Royce, Issa, Dana R. and Mimi Walters. He really thinks he will win because he's a "hot actor", doesn't he?  Hey Elsa, this is one of "your" Republicans you're always screeching about. 

It's Sabato, Junior. And Nunes. The latter is NOT Latino, as Ana pointed out to Whoopi, who had pronounced his name as Nunyez. It's Noonus. And Issa is leaving and not running for office come November. 

As for name changing? I always roll my eyes at those of my friends and acquaintances, not to mention people of East Indian descent, whose names are NOT that hard, but they Anglicized them for...reasons. Rakesh==>Rick. Rakesh is NOT that hard to pronounce. I refused to do anything similar with my name. Just kept repeating it until people got it right. And it's not a name with 10 plus syllables, either.

[blondiec0332]

40 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

As for name changing? I always roll my eyes at those of my friends and acquaintances, not to mention people of East Indian descent, whose names are NOT that hard, but they Anglicized them for...reasons. Rakesh==>Rick. Rakesh is NOT that hard to pronounce. I refused to do anything similar with my name. Just kept repeating it until people got it right. And it's not a name with 10 plus syllables, either.

The reverse is true as well.  I don't like when people shorten someone's name without knowing if that is what someone goes by.  I liked the name Andrew for my son but I knew people would automatically call him Andy.  So I named him Zackary.  I could live with Zack.  I couldn't have lived with Andy.  Not that there is anything wrong with Andy.  It just makes me think of Raggedy Andy.  I wonder how Meghan would react to people calling her Meg?

[twoods]

Sorry, I knew Nunes spelling but accidentally added the "z" (I was trying to call him Nonez then donez but changed it) but Sabozo was misspelled correctly since I'm petty like that. Anytime someone comes on a show and promotes birthism m or "He's Muslim not Christian" nonsense, it make sure me mad. Ed Royce is leaving too but those guys have already embarrassed us Californians that it can't be fast enough. 

I always felt that when some of the Repubs or right wing media called Barack "Barry" while he was president, it was a slight towards him. 

Edited February 9, 2018 by twoods

[Haleth]

I kind of prefer Sabozo.

Funny that today's show started with discussion of difficult to pronounce names. 

Ugh.  Nancy Grace.

Oh, so this Ross guy is Meghan's good friend too?  Oh, brother.

[GHScorpiosRule]

46 minutes ago, twoods said:

but Sabozo was misspelled correctly since I'm petty like that.

Ooops! Sorry! And since I'm petty too, I should have clued into that!

 

7 minutes ago, Haleth said:

I kind of prefer Sabozo.

Now that I'm clearly reading it, so do I, because he is a bozo of the worst order. Would a "good Christian" like he's referring to himself, go on a reality show called "wife swap" and switch his wife with someone else's? Oh wait. He DID!