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S06.E05: The Honeymoons, Part 2


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2 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

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Stirring up Ryan's insecurities will not be pretty as he overcompensates with confrontations demanding Jackie make promises to move on from Nick, the DeadEx.

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Great.  Now I'm going to fry forever in the fires of Hell because I LOL'd at "DeadEx".   Brilliant, and well done, Humble! 

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Who knew I'd be here:

I kinda like Jon now! He's the best of the guys anyway, although he seems a little cocky. Ryan is so, so insecure, its painful to watch. That speech/toast whatever it was, was absurd. Mr GP and I have been looking deeply into each others eyes and saying "I will dance with you...even when there's no music playing...." and cracking up since Tuesday. Kids think we're nutso.

Jephte, Jephte...I thought he was so adorable at the wedding! How far he has fallen. He's flat out MEAN. What a jerk. Oh wow, he deigned to sleep in the same ROOM with his wife. Shawniece is being a good sport about it. I'd be like ,don't even bother dude. I guess she feels like at least she can come out looking good. How can he not be attracted to her, she's adorable. IG model, puleeze honey. You're cute but not that cute.

Molly's a snooze, with issues. I think she's a never-nude. And she was a big baby about the mud AND rude to Jon during the whole video check-in. She reminds me a of a girl I know who is never satisfed with anyone and always finds fault, then wonders why her relationships don't work out.

I think Jaclyn is the most normal person ever to be on this show. I'd hang out with her. I loved her drunken expressions during the dinner. Although looks like we have dead boyfriend drama next week.

I 100% agree with whoever said they need to stop with the kids and get some older couples on this show...people in their 30s and 40s that have never been married (and that would agree to be on this show) would have PLENTY of drama and issues!

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7 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Thais is what infuriates me about this show. They need to stop with the 20 somethings who really just want to be on TV and focus on people in their mid to late 30's who have really been out there living life and haven't had success with a lasting relationship for whatever reason and as you said are seriously ready to settle down.  Do they think the viewers don't want to see "older" people? I just don't get it.  

Yes this exactly! It annoys me that they keep picking 25 year olds to be on this show.

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On 1/31/2018 at 10:32 AM, Lily247 said:

One more thing: why does Jamie Otis have the dark hair with gray streaks now ? Did she think it will make her seem more grown since she is a mom now ? It automatically aged her 20 years. 

And next week we will get to see he couples selecting $3000/month lavish apartments that are apparantly in their budgets. 

Because she got older and more grey hair appeared? 

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17 hours ago, Yeah No said:

Jaclyn having sex with Ryan so soon screams "rebound" to me in big neon lights.  When she wakes up out of that fog and acknowledges her annoyance with him it's going to be a big let down for her.

Well, they are already married. To me, marriage is the huge leap, not sex.

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5 hours ago, biakbiak said:

In theory I had no problem with Molly waiting to say the 12 year old comment when they were with the therapist, they have just met and arent used to having such conversations, I just thought the therapist was really bad at fascilitating that conversation.

I would agree if the therapist had been facilitating a conversation and it had ended up coming out of her.  But she just announced it like she has been thinking it all along, which is what I think hurt his feelings, and you are right - the therapist did a terrible job following up on that.

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Experts:  We want to pair Shawniece up with a man who really wants her. 

Also Experts:  *pair Shawniece with Jephte*

A thousand times this.  I honestly have no idea how it is that Jephte is even on this show, much less that he was paired with someone.  Either the editors have done a job on these two, or the "experts" all need to be fired. 

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Just finished this episode; been keeping up with the board but apologies for any repeat snark...

Totally agree with the poster above who said Jacklyn is on the rebound. Ryan is a nuisance to humanity; thankfully he's a fire fighter & gives back something for all the annoyance he provides. 

Jephte has too much learning to do about himself, as he stated, to be on this show or in this 'experiment'.  Shawniece is going to get worn down trying so hard to grow on him.

Jephte isn't used to having someone in his space, but he had a roommate, soooo...

(from Unfiltered) Shawniece, for crap's sake why couldn't you stop yacking so much so he could enjoy his free vacay; it's not like you're his wife or something... geesh.

"Experts" matching someone with a cat allergy to a cat owner - this is either typical "experts" creating drama, or Molly is lying & using Dawn as an excuse to not sleep with her 'Jon the man child'.

Feeling sorry for Jon, who has really grown on me. Maybe Masked Molly expected to be the high energy lead, but he not only met her match, he's surpassed her. She's just freakin' intimidated.

Jon's on vacation & just getting used to cameras - & Molly - so she could've given the guy a break. Would've been interesting if he told Jessica he didn't realize he'd be married to a 70 yo with a lifetime supply of pancake makeup. I'm sure the mud issue was really that it stripped off a few facial layers. They went back to the hotel quickly so she could do some fresh spackling.

Feeling most sorry for Dawn the Kitty, who is no doubt cuddlier than Molly.

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I think the problem with the "experts" is they're using marriage as a form of therapy.  Pastor Calvin told Jepthe that Shawnice is who he needs, even though she might not be who he wants.  That may be true, but you don't get married to deal with your issues.  On the podcast, someone pointed out that John and Shawnice would have been a better match than the ones the "experts" made.  I think that's very true and it makes me upset because I think these "experts" want to put black people together even if they really don't belong together.

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Molly Duff...Miss Priss

priss. noun. The definition of a priss is a spoiled or uptight person who thinks they are too good for everyone or everything.

An example of a priss is a girl who wears a party dress to a picnic and who refuses to get dirty... Or going 4 wheeling in the Jamaican jungle and expecting to not get muddy.

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6 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

Molly Duff...Miss Priss

priss. noun. The definition of a priss is a spoiled or uptight person who thinks they are too good for everyone or everything.

An example of a priss is a girl who wears a party dress to a picnic and who refuses to get dirty... Or going 4 wheeling in the Jamaican jungle and expecting to not get muddy.

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Some "adventurer" she is!  An adventure lover is not that concerned when her hair gets muddy during a dune buggy ride!  It amazes me how some people's self perceptions are so far from reality!  I think she might know better and told the experts that because she thought it would increase her chances of being matched with an adventurous guy because she knows they're often hot (like Jon is).  And then when she gets him she does nothing but complain about it!

 

6 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

Jephte has too much learning to do about himself, as he stated, to be on this show or in this 'experiment'.  Shawniece is going to get worn down trying so hard to grow on him.

 

Especially when he was on unfiltered, if I closed my eyes and pretended he was 16 years old his behavior seemed much more fitting to his maturity level.  To expect an IG model and all that is really immature.  He is too self-centered and looking at Shawniece as a big inconvenience on an otherwise decent vacation.  Like why doesn't she just leave him alone so he can tune her out and enjoy Jamaica?  You'd think the experts forced him at gunpoint to do the show (or bribed him) the way he's acting!  He reminds me of Tom Hanks in "Big" when his girlfriend tries to get his attention away from his games and toys again and again with no success and is only able to elicit embarrassed looks on his face!

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13 hours ago, Neurochick said:

I think the problem with the "experts" is they're using marriage as a form of therapy.  Pastor Calvin told Jepthe that Shawnice is who he needs, even though she might not be who he wants.  That may be true, but you don't get married to deal with your issues.  On the podcast, someone pointed out that John and Shawnice would have been a better match than the ones the "experts" made.  I think that's very true and it makes me upset because I think these "experts" want to put black people together even if they really don't belong together.

Did Jephte and Shawniece specify that they wanted Black partners? Did Jon specify that he wanted a white partner? I agree, Shawniece and Jon would at the VERY least have had a ball on vacation. They'd have gone all-in on the activities. I can picture Jon just bolting up those waterfalls and Shawniece laughing behind him. Jon probably wouldn't have to wait long for sex with Shawniece either. I don't know if they're long-term suited, but they're definitely a better match than her and Jephte. Jephte shouldn't be matched with anyone.

And I am HERE with you on "you don't use a relationship to fix your shit." It's not Shawniece's job to bring Jephte out of his shell or whatever the hell. What's in it for Shawniece? She does all this work on a man who clearly doesn't want her - for what? So he makes a better partner for the next person? That's what a therapist is for, not a spouse. It was the same with Sam and Neil, which was why I was so glad he dumped her. Why should Neil have to give Sam basic "how not to be a bully" lessons? What's in it for him? Deal with your issues on your own time and then come to a partner whole.

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52 minutes ago, humbleopinion said:

To her credit, Sonya did get over her extreme fear of dogs by living with Nick's dogs, but they were lovable...and dogs.

Dawn is being portrayed as not even liking Jon much.

That was so unfair of the experts to put that on Sonia. She doesn’t need to get over her fear of dogs, you know? She’s entitled to her fear the same way animal lovers are entitled to their love of animals. She saw someone mauled by a dog! I give her a lot of credit for trying. If the experts tried to cure me of my fear of snakes by matching me with someone who had a snake, I’d be at a divorce attorney’s office that day.

Same with Molly. Signing her up for a lifetime of allergy shots is bullshit. Pepper is particularly biased about animals since she's a dog owner/lover herself.

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6 hours ago, Empress1 said:

Jephte shouldn't be matched with anyone.

Gah, now I've stooped to defending the "experts", but he really did present himself differently at the start. We saw some of his better self -- being friendly and open in the casting special, around the other grooms, and during breakfast with the families. But since he doesn't like Shawniece, he shut down and retreated into defensive truculence instead of trying. At least he hasn't started running her down and pointing fingers on social media like Ashley did to David Norton. (Who I also dislike after Second Chances, so I guess this is my "defend people I disdain" day.)

Truthfully, I don't actually think Jephte is a bad or mean person. He's immature and socially backwards without much self-awareness. That makes him a horrible candidate for this show, but I can see him being a caring spouse to someone of his own choosing in 7-8 years.

Unfortunately for Jackie, I think we are seeing the real Ryan (unthinking, no-filter, blowhard).

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18 minutes ago, 2727 said:

Gah, now I've stooped to defending the "experts", but he really did present himself differently at the start. We saw some of his better self -- being friendly and open in the casting special, around the other grooms, and during breakfast with the families. But since he doesn't like Shawniece, he shut down and retreated into defensive truculence instead of trying. At least he hasn't started running her down and pointing fingers on social media like Ashley did to David Norton. (Who I also dislike after Second Chances, so I guess this is my "defend people I dislike" day.)

Truthfully, I don't actually think Jephte is a bad or mean person. He's immature and socially backwards without much self-awareness. That makes him a horrible candidate for this show, but I can see him being a caring spouse to someone of his own choosing in 7-8 years.

I don't think he's a bad person either. I just think he has some growing up to do - and even that isn't that weird since he's young. (Yes, I know people in their mid-20s can be mature and capable of marriage. Jephte is not.)

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2 hours ago, EastCoast4Life said:

What is up with these experts? They clearly didn't see that Jephte has a NY Yankees tattoo, while Shawniece is sporting a Boston Red Sox tattoo on her arm. In what universe is this relationship going to work?

I noticed Jep's tattoo, but I didn't see Shawniece's.  I think that is grounds for divorce.  As a native New Yorker and a die hard Yankees and Giants fan, I wouldn't date a Boston Red Sox or Patriots fan, let alone marry one.  Talk about a deal breaker. 

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3 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

I noticed Jep's tattoo, but I didn't see Shawniece's.  I think that is grounds for divorce.  As a native New Yorker and a die hard Yankees and Giants fan, I wouldn't date a Boston Red Sox or Patriots fan, let alone marry one.  Talk about a deal breaker. 

My son said this would be like matching people of two completely different orthodox religions... let the 'games' begin.

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9 minutes ago, Adeejay said:

I noticed Jep's tattoo, but I didn't see Shawniece's.  I think that is grounds for divorce.  As a native New Yorker and a die hard Yankees and Giants fan, I wouldn't date a Boston Red Sox or Patriots fan, let alone marry one.  Talk about a deal breaker. 

When Shawniece goes out to the deck to cry (I think this is from the last episode, honeymooon part 1), you can clearly see the infamous red B amongst some greenery and lots of writing, on her left arm. Maybe that is why when Jephte looks at her, it's with serious bottled-up hatred?

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I oddly feel the need to defend Molly. I’m 98% convinced that the 12yo boy discussion with the “expert” was set up before hand and they played it out like they do on this show. I don’t know if she’s adventurous and outgoing or not but I definitely don’t think we’re getting much of her personality when she’s on camera. I have a feeling she’s strongly editing herself. For Jon to seemingly be so into her she’s either different off camera, he’s only attracted to her looks, he’s desperate to be married no matter what, or he’s a darn good actor.

Jephte. Just no. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and even made a comment about Shawneice  needing to read the room and not push him. But nope. Over it. His remark about “get out of the bed bro” accompanied by the shove was enough to make me want to reach through the TV and smack him. Hard. There’s a difference between not being into somebody, and not being into somebody and making it obvious with your rude manner and nasty comments. I’d like for them to give Shawniece a do over with a guy at least willing to try. 

Ryan’s obnoxious ugly American bit wasn’t funny, wasn’t cute, and wasn’t something I want to see again. He’s becoming annoying enough that I want to ignore him but it’s hard to because he so annoying. Jackie seems sweet and earnest but I’m with y’all that she may have not fully grieved. I give her props for not rolling her eyes and yelling stop when Ryan recited his overly rehearsed vows again like they were beautiful drops of verbal love. Ugh. 

ETA: The idea of matching a person with cat allergies with someone highly attached to their cat makes me stupid angry. I can’t be in a room with a cat for more than 15 minutes without my eyes starting to swell, my skin itching and my throat feeling funny. I’ve tried the shots for several years and they did nothing. Allergy medicine doesn’t do anything either. It’s not a choice for me. Expecting Jon to choose between cat and wife smells like intentional drama to me. Idiot “experts.”  

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5 hours ago, Adeejay said:

I noticed Jep's tattoo, but I didn't see Shawniece's.  I think that is grounds for divorce.  As a native New Yorker and a die hard Yankees and Giants fan, I wouldn't date a Boston Red Sox or Patriots fan, let alone marry one.  Talk about a deal breaker. 

LOL, can you hear the "experts" now? "Shawniece is a RedSox fan, Jepthe is a Yankees fan. They'll learn to understand one another and balance each other out". 

Jepthe is from Boston too. I get transplants hanging on to their hometown team loyalty. But seriously man? You're a Bostonian and you flaunt that big ass Yankees tat?

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16 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

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Jepthe is from Boston too. I get transplants hanging on to their hometown team loyalty. But seriously man? You're a Bostonian and you flaunt that big ass Yankees tat?

lol  He's still "finding himself".   smh

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On 2/2/2018 at 1:33 PM, Adeejay said:

I noticed Jep's tattoo, but I didn't see Shawniece's.  I think that is grounds for divorce.  As a native New Yorker and a die hard Yankees and Giants fan, I wouldn't date a Boston Red Sox or Patriots fan, let alone marry one.  Talk about a deal breaker. 

Jephte sleeps in his jeans.  If that's not a dealbreaker, nothing is. 

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Jepthe: She's a stranger. This is moving too fast..

Me: I wonder what part of MARRIED AT FIRST SIGHT made him think he'd have lots of time to get to know his partner and that'd it'd be a very slow drawn out process

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Interesting that I'm not the only one who sees the Shawneice/Jon connection. I'm not saying they'd make a perfect couple or anything, but their personalities in their simplest forms are super conpatiable. They could great friends or at least have tons of fun together.

I think Ryan's a David or a Nick. He seems super nice but there's something not so nice lurking underneath. I'm not saying he's a terrible person, just that what's on the outside is SUPER NICE and makes you forget that he either has the same flaws we all do, or secrets he's hiding. His dickish side showed with making fun of Jon and not having a job.

I didn't like Molly pegging Jon as a man child, which surprised me because I initially disliked him (he seems so fratboy-ish, the kind of guys i hated), but he's on vacation, doing fun things, he's excited. Cut him some slack. He's staring to grow on me. He seems genuinely nice.

I actually thought the Shawneice/Jepthe bedroom interaction was kinda cute, but wow, he didn't want her near him. That wouldn't have been the case if he was even remotely interested in her. Him ein super awkward and shy with Shawniece makes me see him as more of a manchild than Jon could ever be.

Did anyone else make sex jokes in their heads when Jackie was talking about letting Ryan see her "pink room" and letting him  see her "secret space"

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3 hours ago, Drogo said:

Jephte sleeps in his jeans.  If that's not a dealbreaker, nothing is. 

Maybe he is a “never nude” like Tobias Funke?  

On one hand, Jephte seems exceedingly polite and well mannered.  (The way he introduced himself to Shawniece’s Family at the wedding before the ceremony, how he treated them at the brunch and how he treated the staff at the hotel) but his inability to at least be polite and cordial to his “wife” - and act like an adult - is not a good look at all.  Maybe too much time around young kids because that is just how he is acting.

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On 2/2/2018 at 4:14 PM, Pepper Mostly said:

LOL, can you hear the "experts" now? "Shawniece is a RedSox fan, Jepthe is a Yankees fan. They'll learn to understand one another and balance each other out". 

Jepthe is from Boston too. I get transplants hanging on to their hometown team loyalty. But seriously man? You're a Bostonian and you flaunt that big ass Yankees tat?

Is he originally from Boston? When his family wasn't there for the morning after breakfast he mentioned they had to return to New York.

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Just an fyi about the dick measuring contest.....

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1 hour ago, biakbiak said:

Is he originally from Boston? When his family wasn't there for the morning after breakfast he mentioned they had to return to New York.

He has zero accent. I can't tell. But speaking as a former Bostonian, I doubt he'd have NY tats if was from Boston. 

Btw, the fact that sports come into play with regards to who you marry is hilarious to me. I'm from Boston, my husband is from NY. We've been married for 13 years. 

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8 hours ago, biakbiak said:

Is he originally from Boston? When his family wasn't there for the morning after breakfast he mentioned they had to return to New York.

Oh, I missed that. I only watch with one eye. But isn't his sainted mother in Boston? I got the idea that he grew up here. In that case I give him a pass for the tat. I had a roommate once from Connecticut, who wore an obnoxiously loud Yankees jacket all winter. He was also a Canadiens fan. He survived fine. But it was the 80's. Different times.

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Jephte lost interest in Shawniece at the wedding when she had the potty mouth and the lap dance (not judging, Be u) but I wish he would admit that. Without admitting that he looks like a donkey on tv.

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9 hours ago, jpagan05 said:

Just an fyi about the dick measuring contest.....

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He has zero accent. I can't tell. But speaking as a former Bostonian, I doubt he'd have NY tats if was from Boston. 

Btw, the fact that sports come into play with regards to who you marry is hilarious to me. I'm from Boston, my husband is from NY. We've been married for 13 years. 

Ha, ha.  I'm from Long Island.  I love Yankees, Giants, Rangers.  Husband loves Mets, Jets and Islanders.  Married forever and have multiple t.v. s.

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5 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Oh, I missed that. I only watch with one eye. But isn't his sainted mother in Boston? I got the idea that he grew up here. In that case I give him a pass for the tat. I had a roommate once from Connecticut, who wore an obnoxiously loud Yankees jacket all winter. He was also a Canadiens fan. He survived fine. But it was the 80's. Different times.

His mother lives in NY, he went to visit her there to tell her.

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5 hours ago, Nic2571 said:

Jephte lost interest in Shawniece at the wedding when she had the potty mouth and the lap dance (not judging, Be u) but I wish he would admit that. Without admitting that he looks like a donkey on tv.

I think he lost interest when he saw she wasn’t an Instagram model or Rihanna.

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14 hours ago, jpagan05 said:

Just an fyi about the dick measuring contest.....

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He has zero accent. I can't tell. But speaking as a former Bostonian, I doubt he'd have NY tats if was from Boston. 

Btw, the fact that sports come into play with regards to who you marry is hilarious to me. I'm from Boston, my husband is from NY. We've been married for 13 years. 

I think Jephte is an elementary school teacher so he probably makes less than a high school teacher. Ryan said that he worked a lot of overtime as a firefighter since he was single (he said he was working 90 hours/week), so I'm guessing he makes significantly more than $49k. And he said he had money coming in from rental properties. 

There was an old Facebook profile someone dug up that showed Jephte as living in New York, so I'm guessing he relocated to Boston for work/college/live closer to his mother. 

The sports thing is dumb. People marry people from different religions, political beliefs so I doubt sports allegiances are such a big barrier to overcome. 

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17 hours ago, Gobears said:

The sports thing is dumb. People marry people from different religions, political beliefs so I doubt sports allegiances are such a big barrier to overcome. 

It's like the cat thing. Would I personally care about marrying a fan of a team I didn't like, no, but to some people that would be a deal breaker (especially in a town like Boston). It's like John saying he has a cat he likes to sleep with, and Molly saying, well, she can sleep in another room. Seemingly small things can add up to really big issues. I blame the so-called experts, and their lack of research into the individuals on this show. 

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I have a question: when is unfiltered on? Can I watch online?
I'm just catching up with this show because I didn't know it was on. I have my DVR set to record New episodes only. But they kept running these stupid recap shows and the First Year shows as "new" so I finally just had to delete the series recording. I also missed Season 5. I watched Season 5 on Lifetime, it was great- I watched the whole season in about 2 hours. I watched these episodes only: Weddings, Honeymoon Part 2, Moving In, Decision Day. Really that is ALL you need there is so much fucking filler.

 

When I saw Jephte and Shawneice I said: Here is Our Token Black Trainwreck Couple

 

I still cannot handle the experts saying basic things as if they are so so so Ground Breaking and eye opening. ."A Marriage is a committment, these people are not just Dating but they are MARRIED!!". "A honeymoon is a time for romance and relaxation"...."The wedding night is a time of great expectations"..."A wedding is a time for families to celebrate"  Oh jesus REALLY? I did not know that!?!?

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