testardo August 5, 2015 Share August 5, 2015 Isn't it about time for another catastrophic disaster that changes Port Charles forever? That would be an ideal way of getting rid of some of the useless baggage on the show -- kill them off in said disaster. I am not talking about just one or two characters either. Silas, Franco, Nina, Ava, Kiki, Dr. O, Madeleine, Valerie, Sloane. They could be in the Floating Rib or Kelly's when it explodes from a gas leak. I'd love to add Sam and Sonny to that list because she never shuts up and all he does is mumble, but I know the show will keep those two bores around until the cows come home and the fat lady sings. A drastically reduced cast would help the show immensely. They could all be dead, buried under the rubble. Then new people can come on to dig out the bodies and start over again. Emma could be in Paris with Anna and Robin, Michael could be away and the rest of the show gone. We could start over. A new soap. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1388670
HeatLifer August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 When they showed Liz/Sam hug and Patrick/Jase shake hands today, I was like, "And that's the last time that will ever happen!" I really think those relationships (not that Patty and Jase ever had one) will be done for-evah. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1407480
ulkis August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 Why Patrick and Jason? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1407516
HeatLifer August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 Because when Jason punches Patrick in his nose for shitting on Robin, it'll be hard to repair that bro connection. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1407526
OnceSane August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 When they showed Liz/Sam hug and Patrick/Jase shake hands today, I was like, "And that's the last time that will ever happen!" I really think those relationships (not that Patty and Jase ever had one) will be done for-evah. It told me that the double wedding is coming. God help us all. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1407961
WendyCR72 August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 Because when Jason punches Patrick in his nose for shitting on Robin, it'll be hard to repair that bro connection. I don't know, wouldn't Jason have to give a shit about Robin first? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1407990
HeatLifer August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 It told me that the double wedding is coming. God help us all. HA. And yet...I'm SO excited to see everything go to shit. Patrick's FACE. Liz's FACE. Jason's FACE. Sam's FACE. I want to seeeeee. I don't know, wouldn't Jason have to give a shit about Robin first? He does. You know we part ways on this! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1407994
Lillybee August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 Speaking of weddings, do we think that Snarly and Sonny are planning a huge wedding because nothing says true love like the fifth wedding. Of course, Snarly will be wearing a white sexy wedding dress. Just how many weddings do those crazy kids have between. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1407996
WendyCR72 August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 So, assuming that spoiler of Hayden spilling the Borg secret to Patrick is true, I guess we'll get the Proposal of Utter Desperation soon and the wedding or weddings in November? Do we have to wait another three months to end this Jason shit? Really?! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1408002
dubbel zout August 12, 2015 Share August 12, 2015 The reveal happening in November is probably earlier than Ron would have done it. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1408872
OnceSane August 15, 2015 Share August 15, 2015 I think Brad and Rosalie's marriage is an arranged one between mob families. I'm guessing Ms/Mrs. Wu is Brad's aunt or grandmother and Rosalie is a Soleito. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1418047
LeftPhalange August 15, 2015 Share August 15, 2015 I'm all for it if it leads to them being killed during the Mob War That Will Change Everything: 2015 Edition. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1418143
WendyCR72 August 15, 2015 Share August 15, 2015 I'm all for it if it leads to them being killed during the Mob War That Will Change Everything: 2015 Edition. Add in Franco, Nina, Sabrina, Kiki, DenAva, and Morgan, too! (I'd also add Sonny and Carly, CardboardHomewrecker!Valerie, and Generic!Dillon, but I know how that goes.) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1418178
BestestAuntEver August 15, 2015 Author Share August 15, 2015 I think Brad and Rosalie's marriage is an arranged one between mob families. I'm guessing Ms/Mrs. Wu is Brad's aunt or grandmother and Rosalie is a Soleito. Good guess. I don't think that it's a green card marriage and I'm hoping it isn't, I'm pretending not to be gay marriage. It's 20-freaking-15. As others have said, Brad and Rosalie would have to keep closer tabs on each other, if it were a green card or beard marriage. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1418196
TeeVee329 August 15, 2015 Share August 15, 2015 But weren't the parents Brad was ducking in relation to this story his adopted, non-mob parents? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1418340
OnceSane August 15, 2015 Share August 15, 2015 But weren't the parents Brad was ducking in relation to this story his adopted, non-mob parents? Yeah, but he knows who his bio-parents are and may have agreed to the marriage to appease them for…reasons. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1418363
TeeVee329 August 15, 2015 Share August 15, 2015 That's what I'm saying, I can see it being a green card thing or an arranged marriage, but not seeing the set-up for mob interference (though I'm sure Ron forgot what he wrote when this storyline started 8 million years ago). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1418390
BestestAuntEver August 16, 2015 Author Share August 16, 2015 That's what I'm saying, I can see it being a green card thing or an arranged marriage, but not seeing the set-up for mob interference (though I'm sure Ron forgot what he wrote when this storyline started 8 million years ago). I don't think Ron remembers either. He was setting up that is was some big secret with his adopted parents (possibly didn't know he was gay) then swerved and made him married to a woman. Did Brad ever meet Helena? Maybe she forced him to marry Rosalie because...reasons? Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1418418
TeeVee329 August 16, 2015 Share August 16, 2015 (edited) Did Brad ever meet Helena? Maybe she forced him to marry Rosalie because...reasons? They've never met, though Brad did get a crash course on the Divine Mrs. C right before Obrecht threw him off the parapet. Edited August 16, 2015 by TeeVee329 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1418421
Chairperson Meow August 16, 2015 Share August 16, 2015 I want McBain back. And AJ. I wonder if Ghost Kannie will get alimony? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1419239
Tiger August 16, 2015 Share August 16, 2015 (edited) I want McBain back. And AJ. I wonder if Ghost Kannie will get alimony? McBain can stay 'wandering the road' (and abandoning his child) or whatever the fuck Easton said the character was doing.But I want Sean's AJ, and Megan's Kate to both show up alive, even if for only day. Same for Georgie and Alan. Just give me one day to establish these people are alive and happy away from a town polluted by the midget mickey mouse moobster. Edited August 16, 2015 by Tiger 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1419374
ulkis August 16, 2015 Share August 16, 2015 I liked MWKate, but that would be a waste of a back from the dead. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1419396
Tiger August 16, 2015 Share August 16, 2015 I liked MWKate, but that would be a waste of a back from the dead. Megan's Kate was a strong, confident, and successful women who made the healthychoice to not be with Sonny. Kelly's Kannie was a trashy whack-job wimmins. So yeah, I want Megan's Kate to be revealed as alive and to dismiss Kelly's "version" as some crazed fan who impersonated her. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1419517
Chairperson Meow August 17, 2015 Share August 17, 2015 Megan's Kate was the actual Kate. That Cake murdering Kannie was an obsessed fan. Sonny isn't bright. I miss ME's snark. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1420449
NutmegsDad August 17, 2015 Share August 17, 2015 I think Brad and Rosalie's marriage is an arranged one between mob families. I'm guessing Ms/Mrs. Wu is Brad's aunt or grandmother and Rosalie is a Soleito. Or Ms. Wu is Brad's "aunt" and really his mother. Rosalie as a Solito is most probable, especially since she was taking to her father when she had the picnic with Morgan backintheday. Speculation is that he's Paul Hornsby. Wild speculation is she's the Click!Boom Baby of Sonny and Scarface!Lily. A live Lily would mean all those Sonny/Carly marriages (including this one) are invalid. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1421425
Chairperson Meow August 17, 2015 Share August 17, 2015 If Rosalie is Sonny Spawn, will she get shot too? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1421429
dubbel zout August 17, 2015 Share August 17, 2015 Not with our luck. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1421468
Tiger August 17, 2015 Share August 17, 2015 Wild speculation is she's the Click!Boom Baby of Sonny and Scarface!Lily. A live Lily would mean all those Sonny/Carly marriages (including this one) are invalid. I've wanted alive!scarcface!Lily for a while for a plethora of reasons, but I had never even thought of this gem. I want Vanessa to return for a day so that Brenda can shout it from the rooftops that "THAT girl was never Sonny's wife!" 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1422056
OnceSane August 17, 2015 Share August 17, 2015 If Rosalie is Sonny Spawn, will she get shot too? Only if he really loves her. But since she's just a girlchild, there's a car bomb with her name on it! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1422128
LeftPhalange August 17, 2015 Share August 17, 2015 I've wanted alive!scarcface!Lily for a while for a plethora of reasons, but I had never even thought of this gem. I want Vanessa to return for a day so that Brenda can shout it from the rooftops that "THAT girl was never Sonny's wife!" If Lily is alive then Sleeves was never Sonny's wife either. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1422367
SlovakPrincess August 19, 2015 Share August 19, 2015 A nice way to fix Liz might be as follows: Jason starts mumbling in his sleep about Helena, and how Robin helped him, and where is she, and she must be in trouble ... And Liz hears this, horrified, and realizes that she has to tell the truth and basically confess all about Jason, because something bad did happen or is happening to her friend Robin. It doesn't excuse Liz's actions, but she would come to her senses and sort of "turn herself in" because she realizes someone might need help and Jason is the key. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1427684
jsbt August 19, 2015 Share August 19, 2015 I strongly suspect that at one point either Sabrina or Rosalie, or both at different points, were considered to be Lily's child. I think that idea was floating around a long time and I don't think Ron ever fully gave up on it. I think it's gone with him now, though. I don't think it's necessarily a horrible idea to dovetail Brad's secret into a potential Asian Quarter underworld angle - we all had a hunch that Rosalie was connected to organized crime. I just can't find it in myself to bother to care about Rosalie or her secret after over a year. She's pointless. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1427685
IWantCandy71 August 20, 2015 Share August 20, 2015 I want McBain back. And AJ. I wonder if Ghost Kannie will get alimony? If we can get rid of some of the others, I wouldn't mind McBain back. Can he come back as a PI working with Sam? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1432289
OnceSane August 24, 2015 Share August 24, 2015 Now.that Franco has confessed, I'd love for him to go to prison…off-screen. The "injustice" can drive Nina more crazy and she can be permanently committed to Ferncliff…off-screen. Magda can slink out to town with Nina's money and we never hear from any of them again. Thus, at least some of our soap is back. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1443955
LeftPhalange August 24, 2015 Share August 24, 2015 (edited) Now.that Franco has confessed, I'd love for him to go to prison…off-screen. The "injustice" can drive Nina more crazy and she can be permanently committed to Ferncliff…off-screen. Magda can slink out to town with Nina's money and we never hear from any of them again. Thus, at least some of our soap is back. Someone in this situation needs to kill Ava. In response, Kaka can kill herself or leave town or whatever. Also, Franco needs to be brutally murdered. Oh, and Madeline needs to be murdered too because fuck her. And if someone could get rid of Brad and Rosalie that would be great too. Edited August 24, 2015 by LeftPhalange Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1444039
dubbel zout August 24, 2015 Share August 24, 2015 Has there ever been as many useless characters as there are now? I can deal with characters I don't like, because that's what happens with ensemble casts, and that number is usually limited. But in the current cast, there's Franco, Lauren, Madeline, Obrecht, Nina, and I'd argue that Scott, Ric, and Patrick aren't moving along the stories they're in. There are always going to be some stories I don't like, and again, that's part of soaps. But none of the stories involving the characters I listed are telling a story. There's no point. Even as an umbrella story, Silas was not a large enough presence to warrant the attention his death is getting, and the larger canvas isn't going to care or be affected by the reveal. Why is Nathan still trying to figure out who kidnapped Avery? It doesn't matter. Plus, the culprit is, you know, dead. The ONLY current story that remotely affects more than its participants is the Jakeson secret, and that reveal shows no signs of happening soon. The rest will have no ripple effects whatsoever. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1444318
LeftPhalange August 25, 2015 Share August 25, 2015 Has there ever been as many useless characters as there are now? I can deal with characters I don't like, because that's what happens with ensemble casts, and that number is usually limited. But in the current cast, there's Franco, Lauren, Madeline, Obrecht, Nina, and I'd argue that Scott, Ric, and Patrick aren't moving along the stories they're in. This is what happens when you have 157 characters on a show. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1446067
dubbel zout August 25, 2015 Share August 25, 2015 I know! And streamlining the cast doesn't seem to be a priority. Oooh, they got rid of Silas. Yes, that solved everything. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1446436
testardo August 25, 2015 Share August 25, 2015 Someone in this situation needs to kill Ava. In response, Kaka can kill herself or leave town or whatever. Also, Franco needs to be brutally murdered. Oh, and Madeline needs to be murdered too because fuck her. And if someone could get rid of Brad and Rosalie that would be great too. We need a great California earth quake. All these people Sonny included slip in the crack never to be heard of again. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1446443
ulkis August 25, 2015 Share August 25, 2015 I know! And streamlining the cast doesn't seem to be a priority. Oooh, they got rid of Silas. Yes, that solved everything. So they could put on . . . Rebecca Budig. As much as it pains me to admit it this, ME/Silas is probably a bigger draw for people. Simply because his fanbase didn't have as much of a chance to move on as Rebecca Budig's. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1447052
TheGourmez August 26, 2015 Share August 26, 2015 I know! And streamlining the cast doesn't seem to be a priority. Oooh, they got rid of Silas. Yes, that solved everything. They did get rid of Sean, too. I was surprised at both exists, TBH. Small victories? So, what plot points are we hoping the new writing team does a quick reversal on? Mine are 1. TJ rejects his mother for being a bad-ass undercover detective. 2. Michael returns Avery to Sonny. 3. Michael starts taking advice from Sabrina. 4. Carly and Sonny get engaged. 5. Dillon has romantic feelings for Lulu. 6. Ric/Madeleine/Eye Bleach. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1450852
TeeVee329 August 26, 2015 Share August 26, 2015 They did get rid of Sean, too. I was surprised at both exists, TBH. Small victories? I actually got the impression the actor chose to leave, but I could be wrong. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1450864
dubbel zout August 26, 2015 Share August 26, 2015 4. Carly and Sonny get engaged. I don't want either of them in other relationships, so I'm fine if this stays. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1450919
ulkis August 26, 2015 Share August 26, 2015 I don't want Michael with Avery just because I don't think he should saddle himself with a baby. He should concentrate on taking Carly and Sonny's fortunes from them. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1451056
KerleyQ August 26, 2015 Share August 26, 2015 So, what plot points are we hoping the new writing team does a quick reversal on? Mine are 1. TJ rejects his mother for being a bad-ass undercover detective. This would be pretty easy to do. Just have TJ witness something unsettling while staying at Sonny's, and he realizes that, no matter how much he loves Shawn or how "cool" Sonny is to him, the mob is inherently bad, and it's pretty awesome that his mother is brave enough to take that on and try to keep everyone in town safer. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1451075
dubbel zout August 26, 2015 Share August 26, 2015 the mob is inherently bad *laughs uncontrollably* The only mob that's bad is the one that Sonny isn't involved in, per Show canon. Sigh. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1451290
jsbt August 26, 2015 Share August 26, 2015 There is no chance this team will walk back Michael making nice with S&C, IMO. I think the message they've all taken away from this last year is "the audience wants more of these families back the way they were, front and center!" I'd be amazed if they did the opposite. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1451306
TeeVee329 August 27, 2015 Share August 27, 2015 The out-of-nowhere return of Avery to Sonny and the big push of Sonny/Carly as awesome parents and Avery as their "daughter" definitely felt and feels like the network steering the show in the direction they want. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1451576
BestestAuntEver August 27, 2015 Author Share August 27, 2015 The out-of-nowhere return of Avery to Sonny and the big push of Sonny/Carly as awesome parents and Avery as their "daughter" definitely felt and feels like the network steering the show in the direction they want. I hope the network people are watching because I sure as hell won't. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1451765
Oracle42 August 27, 2015 Share August 27, 2015 Sonny & Jason front and center ALL THE TIME is what got Guza fired. Do they really not see what the problems are? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/6470-unspoiled-spec-40k-someone-long-dead-is-resurrected/page/21/#findComment-1451916
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