Season 8 Finale Special - Check Up w/Dr. Drew Part 1

[GreatKazu]

18 minutes ago, fetching said:

I wish Nathan wasn't such an ass, because his mom seems like an intelligent, caring woman. 

To be fair, she doesn't suffer from brain damage and PTSD, although after living with Nathan, she should get combat pay. 

I am not giving excuses to Nathan for his atrocious and violent behavior, BTW. 

[SheTalksShit]

3 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

He is contracted to kiss their fake asses.

No one needs to be a therapist in order to bring up the shitty choices these bitches are making in their lives. Hell, I'd go tell them myself without a big MTV paycheck. Move over, Drew. 

because everytime he HAS tried to call them out, they walk off stage. in the end, it's a TV show, so he's gotta keep them on stage to answer questions, etc. plus Dr. Drew is not a strong personality and he wants people to like him, so he isn't the type to be harsh, anyway. 

2 hours ago, druzy said:

so the reunion is not on tonight? it's not till next week?

[GreatKazu]

16 minutes ago, SheTalksShit said:

because everytime he HAS tried to call them out, they walk off stage. in the end, it's a TV show, so he's gotta keep them on stage to answer questions, etc. plus Dr. Drew is not a strong personality and he wants people to like him, so he isn't the type to be harsh, anyway. 

so the reunion is not on tonight? it's not till next week?

The reunion aired tonight. It is part 1. Randy is likely referring to the second or third part. 

[SheTalksShit]

1 minute ago, GreatKazu said:

The reunion aired tonight. It is part 1. Randy is likely referring to the second or third part. 

Oh ok. It's not On Demand yet so I haven't been able to watch. 

[WhosThatGirl]

I don’t know. I still think Dr. Panda is not equipped to handle the reunions, but yeah he has to toe the company line because if he asked real questions they will leave as we have seen them do.

So maybe they shouldn’t have reunions at all then. That way the girls don’t get paid if they come and only sit for a couple minutes and then leave even though they are obligated by contract to participate. If they refuse to do any of this, like others have said they shouldn’t be paid. 

Then again.. I wish the whole show would end already. Both versions.

[crazychicken]

UBT is getting smarter driving himself so that he was in control of leaving.

[SheTalksShit]

OK I'm watching now. Jenelle is on stage. What 3 stories has Babs sold about her??? Drew come on, ask for specifics. Maybe that's just the journalist in me (I used to work in media/journalism so I'm big on fact-checking and specifics, etc). 

I think the things people believe about David (him being abusive, etc) is really getting to him. B/c he's acting completely different this season than he has in previous seasons, where he seemed more laid-back. 

Of course Jenelle leaves with David, b/c she can't be anywhere without her man close-by. And David knows that, so he knew she'd leave with him. 

FYI, Jenelle and David, you make it look a lot worse when you act all sketchy and leave, instead of staying and just answering questions. Dr. Drew is not that hard to manipulate, either lol. Just come in, be polite, smile, act laid-back, roll your eyes at the claims and say things are fine, I would never hit Jenelle or Kaiser. I'm not saying this means the allegations are true, we don't know that, I'm just saying that whether they are true or not, they've made the situation worse by just up and leaving. 

MTV needs to start fining them for walking off before the segment is over. 

Previously, there was Kail's segment, in which she states that Chris hasn't seen the baby in over a month. But what she fails to mention is that she's FORBIDDEN him from seeing the baby, as in she won't let him! She gave an interview before the reunion was filmed (Reunion was filmed the weekend of Oct. 23), confirming this. http://www.theashleysrealityroundup.com/2017/10/17/exclusive-the-real-reason-teen-mom-kail-lowry-isnt-allowing-baby-daddy-chris-lopez-to-see-their-son/ 

Do your homework Dr. Drew! 

And now Babs is on stage. Ask her about those stories Dr. Drew, let her confirm or deny it! 

Edited November 14, 2017 by SheTalksShit

[SheTalksShit]

Oh, and Dr. Drew telling Kailyn therapy might benefit her b/c her "picker" is off (as in the men she chooses) is total bullshit! Other than Chris, the men she's picked have not been the issue, the issue was HER! 

And with Chris, if she's refusing to let him see the baby, the issue is at least partially her. Chris dug his own grave when he refused to sign the birth certificate, but that's not the reason Kail is refusing to let him see his child, b/c she and him were together for a month or 2 after the baby was born, soooo clearly the issue is something else. I think, most likely, the issue is that Kail met someone else and so now she's over him! 

Edited November 14, 2017 by SheTalksShit

[GreatKazu]

46 minutes ago, SheTalksShit said:

Oh, and Dr. Drew telling Kailyn therapy might benefit her b/c her "picker" is off (as in the men she chooses) is total bullshit! Other than Chris, the men she's picked have not been the issue, the issue was HER! 

And with Chris, if she's refusing to let him see the baby, the issue is at least partially her. Chris dug his own grave when he refused to sign the birth certificate, but that's not the reason Kail is refusing to let him see his child, b/c she and him were together for a month or 2 after the baby was born, soooo clearly the issue is something else. I think, most likely, the issue is that Kail met someone else and so now she's over him! 

Kail let Chris see the child because she thought Suds would pull on Chris' heart strings and it would somehow bring him back into her life (bed). Chris doesn't need to be with Kail in order to have a relationship with that child. That child is being used as a pawn. Kail is pissed that Chris chose his "ho" over her and now, she is using the abuse excuse (again) and painting him as a bad guy. By keeping the baby from him, it is her payback. She wants Chris to play by her rules. 

As for Chris not signing the birth certificate, I don't blame him. Kail was bending over all over Dover with god knows how many other guys. He probably wasn't sure who the father was of that child. I am certain he is the bio dad, but Kail plays dirty. Although, at this stage of her game, he should file documents and request a paternity test. That is, if he truly wants to be a part of that child's life. She could also file for child support, but that wouldn't fall into her plan which is to keep Chris at bay. She doesn't want another father telling her what to do.

Edited November 14, 2017 by GreatKazu

[SheTalksShit]

1 hour ago, GreatKazu said:

Kail let Chris see the child because she thought Suds would pull on Chris' heart strings and it would somehow bring him back into her life (bed). Chris doesn't need to be with Kail in order to have a relationship with that child. That child is being used as a pawn. Kail is pissed that Chris chose his "ho" over her and now, she is using the abuse excuse (again) and painting him as a bad guy. By keeping the baby from him, it is her payback. She wants Chris to play by her rules. 

As for Chris not signing the birth certificate, I don't blame him. Kail was bending over all over Dover with god knows how many other guys. He probably wasn't sure who the father was of that child. I am certain he is the bio dad, but Kail plays dirty. Although, at this stage of her game, he should file documents and request a paternity test. That is, if he truly wants to be a part of that child's life. She could also file for child support, but that wouldn't fall into her plan which is to keep Chris at bay. She doesn't want another father telling her what to do.

To be fair, I think he knew the kid was his. He wouldn't have shown up for her dr. appointments if he didn't believe it was his. He wouldn't have shown up when she was in labor and gave birth and he wouldn't have hung around for a month or 2 if he didn't believe full well it was his. He knew. Chris is no saint. 

He has filed custody documents, from what I read on The Ashley Reality Roundup. 

You may be right that he chose his ho over Kail, which pissed her off and lead to her keeping the kid from him, bc she doesn't really care if he has a relationship w/the child, she cares that Chris has a relationship with HER. If he's not willing to shack up and play house with HER, then she's gonna keep him from having anything to do with their baby, period. 

The reason I thought SHE may have been the one to end it this time is because he posted a pic on IG of himself burning a copy of her book. If you don't give a shit, you're not emotional about it and just wanna be done w/the relationship, why do that? You'd think that someone who wants to see his son, but doesn't wanna be in the relationship w/the baby mama anymore, would wanna keep things as civil as possible, no? Him doing that suggests to me that there may have been some emotion on his end this time. 

OR it could also be his way of letting fans know "it's done, so stop asking about it," now that I think about it. 

Since he refuses to film, we may never know, I guess. 

Edited November 14, 2017 by SheTalksShit

[Sprockets]

10 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

The mothers discuss the highs and lows of the season. 

Thank you for once again taking charge and posting this thread.  

10 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

He said that he isn't their therapist, a reunion show isn't a therapy session and that there are a lot of specialists looking out for the welfare of the moms and children. 

Well isn't he full of. . . .excuses.  Also, they would walk off if he got real with them.  

9 hours ago, crazychicken said:

Kail will drag baby daddy 3 cause he doesn't love her

Kail is Doing a Briana.  Chris did not "cheat" on her.  She was one hookup of many.  

[Sprockets]

8 hours ago, pheebs said:

Leah looks so 45-year-old-divorcee in her oh-so-fetching polyester pantsuit, glitter eyeshadow, home shopping network cubic zirconia bracelet, et al.

That would be 45-year-old divorcée from 1965 in her lilac bat wings.  They sure do clean up nice in Possum Holler!  And did it seem like she just about admitted she was taking Jeremy bone again?  Can't she get off that thing?  

Edited November 14, 2017 by Sprockets
left out the dick part

[ReadMeLattice]

40 minutes ago, Sprockets said:

That would be 45-year-old divorcée from 1965 in her lilac bat wings.  They sure do clean up nice in Possum Holler!  And did it seem like she just about admitted she was taking Jeremy bone again?  Can't she get off that thing?  

Jeremy seems like he would last 15 seconds, demand to be told he was awesome in bed, and refuse to give, only receive, ifyaknowwhatimean. I don't get the appeal. 

9 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

Fuck Dr. Drew so hard. This man really is an asshole. Does he truly hate women? 

He really seems to have some issues with that. He is a major slut shamer and gives the guys an easy time a lot. And he throws assholes like Jenelle and Amber softballs when they should be interrogated. The only ones he's been rude to are Chelsea, for keeping her dating life mostly private, and Farrah for the porn. Both of which are legal things. He don't make no sense. 

Edited November 14, 2017 by Lm2162

[Sprockets]

7 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

Jeremy seems like he would last 15 seconds, demand to be told he was awesome in bed, and refuse to give, only receive, ifyaknowwhatimean. I don't get the appeal. 

9 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

Yeah, but Leah would be passed out, so she'd never know.  She's such a dumbfuck that she probably likes Jeremy because he looks like Addie.  

[ReadMeLattice]

8 hours ago, fetching said:

I wish Nathan wasn't such an ass, because his mom seems like an intelligent, caring woman. 

Sometimes there's just a bad egg and nothing to be done about it. Nathan is the kind of asshole that probably dreamed of oily bodybuilder steroid fueled stardom before ever going into boot camp, but his mom sure is a gem. Maybe she just spoiled him. I'm glad she's trying to get custody and being proactive. It's Kaiser's only hope. 

I wish Ensley had a Doris or Barb. 

[LegallyRed2]

No, Dr. Drew - Janelle doesn't need to "be controlled"....Her behavior is her own and it is up to HER to change. I wanted to throw something at my TV. The fact that Dr. Fucking Drew resorts to this is disturbing to say the least. He's basically authorizing domestic violence -- control your woman, David. What the hell message is that sending? He did that same shit with poor Mindy McCready with that Rehab joke show he did where 50% of his patients ended up dead and look what happened, so did she. How dare he even say that? I'm no  big Janelle fan, but it's up to her to control herself. Not David.

[Sprockets]

14 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

He don't make no sense. 

The man needs therapy.  

Can we talk about Jenelle's hair?  First, I can now see where Endtable got her head shape.  Second, those corn rows look like big old surgical scars.  Has Jenelle finally had some work done where she most needs it???

Edited November 14, 2017 by Sprockets
apostrophic insertion procedure

[Sprockets]

2 minutes ago, LegallyRed2 said:

 

No, Dr. Drew - Janelle doesn't need to "be controlled"....Her behavior is her own and it is up to HER to change.

 

Exactly.  How patronizing and demeaning.  I'm guessing Pinsky is talking about himself, and he has wild fantaseis about "controlling" Jenelle. . . . .eww.  Where did this asshole get his degree?  Same place as Dr. Phil?  

[ghoulina]

I'm not sure I like how they're doing this now with the 5 girls. Seems like everyone but Bri got a short snippet this week, then Jenelle took up most of the end. Next week the baby daddy's will talk, plus a segment on Bri. It just feels disjointed. I liked 2 girls per episode, but whatever. 

Chelsea....yawn....cute....nothing to see here. 

Leah....pretty yawn worthy as well, but I loved how she breezed right by Drew's question about what she's studying online. NOTHING!!! She never even did that. No, she suddenly found her passion - stammering platitudes at a confused room of women. It's a dream come true! 

 

Kail is riding the shit-talking-Chris train. HARD. Look, I'm sure the guy's a total douche. Number one, he was with Kail. Number two, nothing could stop me from seeing my kids. I'd be filing with every court in the land. So, he probably just doesn't give a fuck. That being said, we have seen ZERO footage of this guy and know next to nothing about it. Kail is a known liar. So I'm not ready to just take everything she says about him at face value. "He cheated on me the entire pregnancy". Well.....were you TOGETHER the entire pregnancy? Seems like no. "But I stayed, so it's my fault". Nice message to send other young women, Kail. 

No wonder Suzi changed her number. You know it's bad when even the drunk asshole can't stand you. 

 

Speaking of shitty messages, I am ready for MTV to fire Drew. If I have to hear that quack say ONE more thing about Jenelle "needing to be contained" or how POSITIVE it is that she's "submissive to David", I'm going to vomit. I hate Jenelle. She's a low life piece of shit. But him virtually condoning the way David treats is a tacit endorsement of abuse, IMO. So FUCK YOU, DREW. 

How does he sit there on that couch and see David come out there and basically order Jenelle to leave and think any of that is okay? Isn't he supposed to be a fucking DOCTOR? All I have is a high school diploma; but when David said, "I'm leaving, are you coming?", I knew what was implied. And there was really no reason for David to freak out. Drew was totally playing softball out there. He never once addressed the grabbing of Kaiser, the "feed me", the fights hidden from production. But David just HAD to control that situation. I guarantee he knew he was going to do that before they even started. 

Oh, and David called Drew a "faggot" backstage. So.....you're sure you still want to go easy on that punk? 

Seeing Doris just broke my heart. I really hope she has success in getting Kaiser away from that nightmare. You can tell this keeps her up at night. 

And then there was Barb. And Drew continues with Jenelle's fucking narrative of Barb TAKING her kid. Does no one have the capability of looking at old footage? The clips are online. Jenelle SIGNED her rights away and NEVER seriously sought to get her son back until David was in the picture. That was YEARS of allowing Barb to do the heavy lifting and raise her son. And now she thinks she can waltz in and make ultimatums, regardless of what's best for the kid.

Drew says that David is only mad at Barb when Barb is mean to Jenelle? FUCK YOU, YOU ABUSE-CONDONING ASSHOLE. Seriously? Can we get a petition to get this fucker fired? I'm beyond pissed right now. 

[Uncle JUICE]

11 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

Getting real tired of Kail and Briana claiming they were "cheated on". They both need to accept their role as jump offs. Neither one of them were in a relationship with these guys. Quit trying to act like wronged women.  You were two women who gave up the ass in a quest to get a commitment. I'll be glad when women learn you can fuck a man into loving you. 

Backwards bitches. Tsk.

Honest question, should that be CAN'T? Because I gotta be honest, I'm pretty sure as a man I've fallen for this trick once or twice :). 

[ghoulina]

11 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

I recently heard an interview with Dr. DREW, where the interviewer was asking him in a roundabout way why he didn't call these bitches out on their shit. He said that he isn't their therapist, a reunion show isn't a therapy session and that there are a lot of specialists looking out for the welfare of the moms and children. 

That's all well and good. But then why is he giving out ANY opinions or advice. If he wants it to be JUST  a "reunion show", then he can ask them about things that happened and stick to that. But he goes on to give HIS opinions of things - that it's GOOD for Jenelle to be "submissive" and "contained". So he is basically defending how David treats her and sending a message to young women that this kind of relationship is necessary for SOME girls. And it's not. He's so full of shit. 

 

10 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

So that's it? Mtv flies them to LA, puts them up in a nice hotel, rents them a big car, then they summarily walk off after a few minutes. MTV needs to put a no storm off (lol) clause in their contracts.  If they storm off they don't get paid and have to refund all the money spent on the trip. 

MTV made their bed. Year after year these girls walk off stage, refuse to film, cause all sorts of chaos - and MTV has them back. Every time. They get what they deserve. 

 

9 hours ago, fetching said:

I wish Nathan wasn't such an ass, because his mom seems like an intelligent, caring woman. 

Agreed. I know it's hard being a mom and loving your kids, when they're so flawed. Nathan may have had underlying mental issues that she had no control over. Because she seems like a pretty sane, stable woman. But if she was raising 4 kids on her own, stuff may have fallen through the cracks. And I think whatever pre-existing issues he had were made worse by his time overseas and PTSD. I think she loves her son, but knows he is a fuck up. That's why SHE is fighting for custody of Kaiser, not Nathan. 

[ReadMeLattice]

19 minutes ago, Uncle JUICE said:

Honest question, should that be CAN'T? Because I gotta be honest, I'm pretty sure as a man I've fallen for this trick once or twice :). 

You and me both, and I'm not even a man. Well, "love" is strong, maybe. ;) 

[Uncle JUICE]

1 hour ago, Lm2162 said:

Sorry LM, I was going to quote you about Jeremy's 'proficiency,' and point out that he's the secretly grossest member of this cast, then couldn't make the joke work. So instead...

39 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

 

Oh, and David called Drew a "faggot" backstage. So.....you're sure you still want to go easy on that punk? 

When are we going to start treating this word like the N word? If he'd called Jo or Javi a racial slur, would MTV really still employ him? Talk about bankruptcy. 

Just now, Lm2162 said:

You and me both, and I'm not even a man. Well, "love" is strong, maybe. ;) 

"Inspired to make you like ten mix tapes" is probably more accurate than "love." 

[Scarlett45]

38 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

Kail is riding the shit-talking-Chris train. HARD. Look, I'm sure the guy's a total douche. Number one, he was with Kail. Number two, nothing could stop me from seeing my kids. I'd be filing with every court in the land. So, he probably just doesn't give a fuck. That being said, we have seen ZERO footage of this guy and know next to nothing about it. Kail is a known liar. So I'm not ready to just take everything she says about him at face value. "He cheated on me the entire pregnancy". Well.....were you TOGETHER the entire pregnancy? Seems like no. "But I stayed, so it's my fault". Nice message to send other young women, Kail. 

 

Kailyn loves to speak out of both sides of her mouth. She and Chris were NEVER together. Ever. Word on the street is that she was his bootay call when he was on a “break” from his long term girlfriend- that’s it. There’s a narrative that if a woman gives a  man sex, he is obligated to fulfill her emotional needs. I 100% believe that Chris told her from day one what the situation was and she thought her magical vagina could make him change his mind. Failing that her magical uterus. 

She didn’t “stay” she wanted partnered sex, he provided it and there we have it. 

[ReadMeLattice]

I would have so much more respect if she just said she wanted to bang and was irresponsible about protection. The third baby daddy act is so desperate and embarrassing to watch. Not that Chris is probably any better than her, unlike her previous two baby daddies. What goes around comes around...

[luvbadtv]

10 hours ago, pheebs said:

Kwhale's face looks especially goofy. Puffy. Acne. And that Simpson-esque upper lip has gotten even larger since then? Yeesh. Her ripped jeans are baaack, y'all! 

I just listened to her podcast.  She said she didn't fit into her favorite jeans since giving birth.  She must have bought a pair in a bigger size.  

[Mldh598]

10 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

Fuck Dr. Drew so hard. This man really is an asshole. Does he truly hate women? Janelle needs to be contained?? David is mean to Barb because of how Barb treats Janelle? The fuck is wrong with this guy?

This infuriated me beyond words....as if he was praising David. Blech. On the other hand, Barb cracked me up with her talk of dating/men. =)

[druzy]

How were Jenelle and UBT able to walk onto the set to film the New Year's Eve Special after acting like a couple of low life thugs at the reunion? Do they have no shame? I would be humiliated.

[Sprockets]

Just now, druzy said:

Do they have no shame? I would be humiliated.

They are never humiliated.  They always think their behavior is justified.  Their wiring is fucked up.  

[Jax7917]

I really don't believe that Drew watches the show, because any breathing thing can see that he has no idea what's really going on. 

Does anyone actually believe that Kail is done having kids? Maybe she meant for the month?

Leah and motivational speaking do not go together. She can't even get a sentence out. That is NOT your calling. believe me.

Is it me or does Dr. Drew never let the girls answer the questions he asks? He'll ask a question, they'll start answering and he talks right over them. That guy is annoying.

[poeticlicensed]

Should we assume that Janelle and UBT come back for part 2, because they were certainly at the wrap party getting wasted. Randy said so, lol. 

Doris seems like a sane and reasonable woman. Of all the TM parents, she seems to be the most normal (Randy too, but he gets caught up in twitter). Barb is nice, but she is, shall we say, limited. She  is so overwrought dealing with Janelle, she can't even think straight. Mama Dawn is worthless and Suzy is absent. . Doris' career was spent in social services, so she knows the score. When she says she suspects drug abuse, I 100% believe her. I really hope she is successful protecting Kaiser. 

[Brooklynista]

1 hour ago, Uncle JUICE said:

Honest question, should that be CAN'T? Because I gotta be honest, I'm pretty sure as a man I've fallen for this trick once or twice :). 

See what happens when dumb bitches are allowed to run free?? Not only trap babies that dont trap, but mf'n typos.

[Sprockets]

32 minutes ago, Jaclyn88 said:

Does anyone actually believe that Kail is done having kids? Maybe she meant for the month?

There was a kind of "not ready to tell you I'm pregnant again" pause when he asked her.  

 

32 minutes ago, Jaclyn88 said:

Leah and motivational speaking do not go together. She can't even get a sentence out. That is NOT your calling. believe me.

Only Leah's worst enemy would choose that as a career for her.  (Look, I just used "Leah" and "career" in the same sentence and my Ipad didn't explode!)  

[Abmis]

Did anyone else laugh when Jenelle was extolling UBT's virtues and said he was smart?    I hated the way Larry stood with in front of the SUV that UBT was driving.  It looked like he had his hands folded like he was praying for them to stay.  I wonder what UBT would have done if Larry hadn't moved.  I think he's just a big bully, but I guess it was smart of Larry not to find out. 

On the other hand, I believed everything Chelsea said about Cole.  It's nice to see a happy couple on this show.  I think Jo and Vee and Corey and Miranda are happy too, we just don't see as much of them. 

Leah is so busted.  She couldn't answer Drew's question about the online classes she's allegedly taking.  I would never doubt anyone who says they're feeling suicidal, but Leah's response that it was because she didn't have any support didn't make no sense.  Half the holler seems to be at the beck and call of the Possum Princess.  Plus, Corey is always there to take the girlses and even if Jeremy isn't around, his mom seems like a kind lady who would drop everything and take Addie.  I think her pillses were causing her suicidal feelings and she doesn't want to admit it.  I am glad she's doing better, and it was good to see her without the too bright lipstick. 

I was really pissed off at the way Drew treated Barb.  His remark about her taking Jace was untrue and out of line.  Even if he doesn't watch the show he should do his homework.  It also pissed me off when he criticized Barb for saying that she'd like to have a better relationship with Jenelle for Jace's sake.  Barb and Jenelle are what they are and he just doesn't get it.  Jace is a child and Barb is the only one with the sense to realize that he comes first.  Barb's story about guys with fishing boats was hilarious.  That's the Barb I love to watch.

I have nothing to say about Kwhale.  She tried having a trap baby and it didn't work.  The end. 

[leighroda]

Are we really supposed to believe that Jenelle’s lawyer gave up her case because the other lawyer “begged”!? We all know Dustin has magical powers, what kind of gas station parking lot lawyer would just give in because the other side begged? 

[Mkay]

1 minute ago, Abmis said:

Did anyone else laugh when Jenelle was extolling UBT's virtues and said he was smart?    I hated the way Larry stood with in front of the SUV that UBT was driving.  It looked like he had his hands folded like he was praying for them to stay.  I wonder what UBT would have done if Larry hadn't moved.  I think he's just a big bully, but I guess it was smart of Larry not to find out. 

On the other hand, I believed everything Chelsea said about Cole.  It's nice to see a happy couple on this show.  I think Jo and Vee and Corey and Miranda are happy too, we just don't see as much of them. 

 

Larry said “Leta go guys we got the 1,2,3.”  I’m aasiming David did his countdown before he started filling the parking lot with uppercuts. 

[ghoulina]

25 minutes ago, Sprockets said:

There was a kind of "not ready to tell you I'm pregnant again" pause when he asked her.

There was DEFINITELY a pause! It concerned me. And all of mankind, probably. 

13 minutes ago, leighroda said:

Are we really supposed to believe that Jenelle’s lawyer gave up her case because the other lawyer “begged”!? We all know Dustin has magical powers, what kind of gas station parking lot lawyer would just give in because the other side begged? 

Exactly! She settled because she knew she had no chance. If my primary goal was custody of my son, I would never settle. I would fight tooth and nail to get him back. I don't think she really and truly WANTS Jace back. I think she just wants to act like she does, so she can continue this "big, happy, blended family" illusion she's trying to sell. But, at the end of the day, she knew her case wasn't strong enough, so she didn't take it to court. 

[CaliforniaLove]

Drew (I refuse to call him "Dr.") is a misogynistic piece of shit. The proof is the face he made when Barb said women don't need men. I honestly think he was shocked that a little lady could make such a claim! Someone contain her STAT!!

Since we have to be subjected to the coven, I wish they'd at least make good use out of them. They should have had Roxanne on the sidelines to scream "I caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan't!!" (a la "Monkey!") any time these bitches lied (which was pretty much the entire segments for Jenelle & Karl). 

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When are we going to start treating this word like the N word? If he'd called Jo or Javi a racial slur, would MTV really still employ him? Talk about bankruptcy. 

MTV doesn't give a flying fuck. They still employee Camila on the Challenge. 

[poeticlicensed]

19 minutes ago, Mkay said:

I hated the way Larry stood with in front of the SUV that UBT was driving.  It looked like he had his hands folded like he was praying for them to stay.

Janelle and UBT are ratings gold. MTV staff have to kiss ass and beg. It's twisted, the more people fuck up on reality TV, the higher the ratings, which just keeps enabling the bad behavior. Vicious circle. Sometimes I feel bad that I watch because watching adds to ratings, therefore bad behavior.  It's like a car accident. I can't look away. That said, if MTV had a sense of responsibility, they  could try to control the situation via their contract. Put some conditions in there, it's in their power. But again, it's all ratings driven. 

22 minutes ago, leighroda said:

Are we really supposed to believe that Jenelle’s lawyer gave up her case because the other lawyer “begged”!? We all know Dustin has magical powers, what kind of gas station parking lot lawyer would just give in because the other side begged?

I think it was the other way around. Janelle's lawyer begged her to sign an agreement because she knew that Janelle would lose and her time would be even more restricted than it was agreed to. At least Barb did confirm that the judge talked with Jace's therapist. The judge must have thought getting input from the therapist was important.  No amount of bullshit that Janelle spews can contradict that.  

Edited November 14, 2017 by poeticlicensed

[Abmis]

13 hours ago, pheebs said:

 

The Great Spotted Oaf wants to fill the studio with uppercuts and leaves in a huff of methane! Hey, he's got things to do! Like lurking under bridges, scaring billy goats or something?

 

That's the perfect name for him.  Can I start calling him TGSO?

[FlowerofCarnage]

19 minutes ago, leighroda said:

Are we really supposed to believe that Jenelle’s lawyer gave up her case because the other lawyer “begged”!? We all know Dustin has magical powers, what kind of gas station parking lot lawyer would just give in because the other side begged? 

Whatever you have to tell yourself, Jenelle! We all know after therapist testified and Barb's lawyer presented other evidence showing how unfit you are, your lawyer "begged" you to sign a visitation agreement. 

[Poohbear617]

When will parts 2 and 3 be shown? I have no listing for it...and in the time slot next week it says the OG are back. Help

 

Also, how dare jenelle not invite her mother, say she hates her. Etc... then starts who pity party crying that Barb was not there for her to help her put on her wedding dress. Can't have both ways

[CaliforniaLove]

26 minutes ago, Abmis said:

That's the perfect name for him.  Can I start calling him TGSO?

In light of last night's reunion (and basically our entire history watching this cunt...yes I mean DAVID when I say that), can we change it to The GAY Spotted Oaf? It's just so much more insulting to that little sniveling pathetic bitch. 

Edited November 14, 2017 by CaliforniaLove

[teapot]

12 hours ago, Blissfool said:

Seeing Jenelle with the tight cornrows/ponytail got me thinking that maybe Ensley inherited the alien-shaped head from her.

was she just released from prison right before the reunion?

[ClassyCourtHeels]

1 hour ago, leighroda said:

Are we really supposed to believe that Jenelle’s lawyer gave up her case because the other lawyer “begged”!? We all know Dustin has magical powers, what kind of gas station parking lot lawyer would just give in because the other side begged? 

She signed te damn thing because she knew she'd get raked over the coals. Barb knew at this time Janelle was high when Ensley was born. She would have been obliterated. 

[Jax7917]

1 hour ago, Poohbear617 said:

When will parts 2 and 3 be shown? I have no listing for it...and in the time slot next week it says the OG are back. Help

 

Also, how dare jenelle not invite her mother, say she hates her. Etc... then starts who pity party crying that Barb was not there for her to help her put on her wedding dress. Can't have both ways

This!! She makes it seem like her mother chose not to be there and is a deadbeat parent who wants nothing to do with her kid. YOU chose to not invite her. Should she sneak into the wedding and have you yell at her all day about what a piece of crap she is , especially when she wasn't invited? This is just an example of Jenelle's delusions

[Bridget]

5 hours ago, ghoulina said:

 

Leah....pretty yawn worthy as well, but I loved how she breezed right by Drew's question about what she's studying online. NOTHING!!! She never even did that. No, she suddenly found her passion - stammering platitudes at a confused room of women. It's a dream come true! 

 

 

This forever! I caught it too.

I just wish she'd be freakin' honest about ONE thing in her life...like, oh, I don't know, maybe about NOT always following Dr. Tsao's advice or acknowledging that gas station food isn't doing any favors for her girlses and their acquirement of basic grammar/verb tenses.

I hate to be THAT person, but did anyone else think it was fishy that all of a sudden there was a mention of her almost taking her life? To the best of my knowledge, Leah didn't talk about no suicide attempts/thoughts with anyone in Possum Holler. (Major shoutout to the originator of the phrase! it is EVERYTHING) And then the girlses were the ones who saved her life? I know she's struggled with "anxiety", but I don't see a legit connection. I'm not a head doctor, but I can smell BS/dramastic storyline from a mile away. 

She's also too sprung on Germy to ever leave him. Why is his relationship toxic? Why is this the first we are hearing about it? I just do not believe a word that comes out of her mouth. At all.

As the great Todd Chrisley would say: "She's rather climb a tree and tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth."

[AmyFarrahFowler]

8 minutes ago, Bridget said:

This forever! I caught it too.

I just wish she'd be freakin' honest about ONE thing in her life...like, oh, I don't know, maybe about NOT always following Dr. Tsao's advice or acknowledging that gas station food isn't doing any favors for her girlses and their acquirement of basic grammar/verb tenses.

I hate to be THAT person, but did anyone else think it was fishy that all of a sudden there was a mention of her almost taking her life? To the best of my knowledge, Leah didn't talk about no suicide attempts/thoughts with anyone in Possum Holler. (Major shoutout to the originator of the phrase! it is EVERYTHING) And then the girlses were the ones who saved her life? I know she's struggled with "anxiety", but I don't see a legit connection. I'm not a head doctor, but I can smell BS/dramastic storyline from a mile away. 

She's also too sprung on Germy to ever leave him. Why is his relationship toxic? Why is this the first we are hearing about it? I just do not believe a word that comes out of her mouth. At all.

As the great Todd Chrisley would say: "She's rather climb a tree and tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth."

Monkey!

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

16 hours ago, Robertmc said:

David just called Dr Drew a faggot.   MTV have the balls to confront David?

 

16 hours ago, CofCinci said:

David should be fired from this series for his continued use of the word fa****!!!

There are two words you NEVER say: the N-word and the six-letter-F-word.  That is completely unacceptable. Everyone knows this except for dregs of society like David. NO HOME TRAINING.

15 hours ago, Linny said:

So now Kail's peddling the story that Chris was cheating on her during her pregnancy? When were they EVER a couple??? We all saw how he barely responded to her texts/calls, and we heard Kail reference his other "hos," so pretending that they were a monogamous couple and he betrayed her is a nice bit of revisionist history. She's not some injured party here, she knew exactly what Chris was like, so it's time to own up to the truth and admit she made a poor decision having a child with this man. The only victim here is baby Lux, because he has both an absentee father and a ridiculously selfish mother (and such an unfortunate name). 

Kail needs to reassess her life choices and this narrative she's rewriting.  I'm pretty sure Chris has had a girlfriend that he's been steadily "on and off" (and he's currently back with her right now). 

Dear Kail, Chris didn't have side chicks while you were his main chick. You were NEVER his main chick. YOU were the SIDE CHICK (or one of many side chicks, rather).  I have embarrassment by proxy for you that you didn't see this or you thought you'd get a come up to be his main chick because of the nice things your MTV money can buy and the baby.  You are old enough now and have more than enough life experience to know better by now. 

11 hours ago, SheTalksShit said:

FYI, Jenelle and David, you make it look a lot worse when you act all sketchy and leave, instead of staying and just answering questions. Dr. Drew is not that hard to manipulate, either lol. Just come in, be polite, smile, act laid-back, roll your eyes at the claims and say things are fine, I would never hit Jenelle or Kaiser. I'm not saying this means the allegations are true, we don't know that, I'm just saying that whether they are true or not, they've made the situation worse by just up and leaving. 

Exactly. I think it says A LOT about these people that they can't even "contain" themselves (to quote Drew) enough to get through a few minutes of Drew's questions by answering in platitudes, evading questions, etc....playing the game, so to speak. These idiots aren't smart enough to do so or cannot control themselves enough to do so. 

5 hours ago, ghoulina said:

No wonder Suzi changed her number. You know it's bad when even the drunk asshole can't stand you. 

@ghoulina, I haven't watched the actual show in a while and didn't watch last night....did Kail mention that she tried to call Suzi but Suzi changed her number? Cause if so....Bahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Kail sh!t talks Suzi all the time and "cuts her off"....but when Kail needs someone around when all her hangers-on and babies' daddies' families aren't there, she calls Suzi (as seen that season when Javi was off at training and Lincoln was an infant). Suzi's no saint (and I say that as a child of an addict), but I'd also change my number if my kid just used me when she had no one else and smack-talked me on TV & in books in between her moments of needing me to help with her kids/give her a place to stay with her child/give her a car/etc. 

Edited November 14, 2017 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[Sprockets]

13 minutes ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

Exactly. I think it says A LOT about these people that they can't even "contain" themselves (to quote Drew) enough to get through a few minutes of Drew's questions by answering in platitudes, evading questions, etc....playing the game, so to speak. These idiots aren't smart enough to do so or cannot control themselves enough to do so. 

Leah managed to get through it.  Leah.  Dumb as a bag of hair, drugged out Leah.  But David could not, even from the green room.  FFS.