S08.E02: Down that Route: 2017.07.24

[poeticlicensed]

7 hours ago, SPLAIN said:

Let's point out how Kail, the abuser, gets a pass for her criminal behavior. Kail is the embodiment of what a DV abuser is.

Amber was convicted of abuse based on the TM videos. Has the camera caught Kail physically abusing someone? If so, then the victim wouldn't have to make a complaint, the state could bring charges. If not, then it would be up to the person being battered to make a complaint.  Javi and Jo are so afraid that she will withhold the kids that neither of them are willing to go there. Cuz you know cutting them off from their kids is EXACTLY what Kail would do. I have a hard time believing that she never took a swing at either of them in private. 

[TeeMo]

Briana is dumb as a rock and her family is annoying as hell but that conversation with Lou was one of the realest moments we've seen on either Teen Mom show in a very long time. When they talk about this show possibly having an effect on teen pregnancy rates, I always imagine it is moments like that one that might make that true. Most of these other Teen Moms are driving around in expensive cars, taking 43 vacations a year and dumping their kids on a variety of babysitters all the time. As we've seen with Kail, a pregnancy in their lives these days is not a life changing disaster like it once was. Briana is collecting an MTV paycheck now but is much closer to how these girls were in the earlier seasons of the show. She knows that a pregnancy without an involved dad will basically derail whatever plans she has for her life right now. 

 

I felt like her emotions were real and raw in that scene and Lou's BS answers of "Of course I am going to be here" followed immediately by "but you'll be fine even if I am not" should be the kind of clip they pull from this show to highlight. Along with Briana saying that if she has this baby and keeps it she will never have the same choice that does to just walk away. I feel bad that both her kids will someday be able to find a video clip of their mom saying that she will be alone and "stuck with these two kids" but she isn't wrong. Maybe that scene and that honesty will leave an impression with other young girls watching this show and cause them to make better choices. 

[Booger666]

8 hours ago, salvame said:

 

(thanks to the wonders of the internet re-enforced by folks here, I figured out how to watch these locked episodes on MTV even though I don't get them through my cable provider.  Long live the snark!!)

Please share. We dropped our cable for the summer. Thanks!

[TeenMomAngerMgmt]

10 minutes ago, Booger666 said:

Please share. We dropped our cable for the summer. Thanks!

You can follow @Anon_Mafioso on twitter who posts clips without commercials. You can also go to MTV.com, pretend to be an Xfinity customer, log in with FB, and boom! All the trashtastic Teen Mom shenanigans you could possibly want. 

[jcamm1966]

22 hours ago, teapot said:

Was it weird that when Kail brought the kids to Javi's, she didn't say hello to anyone or make sure that anyone was aware that they were there?  I can't imagine just dropping off my toddler son with my school-age son and leaving the house.

(lookit' me, all w/my fancy manners!!)

If I'm Javi I watch my kid that's it, Issac can go to Joe's, last thing I do is do a bitch a favor. You gotta study too bad , got cramps too bad, gotta have me time too bad.

[teapot]

2 hours ago, TeeMo said:

Briana is dumb as a rock and her family is annoying as hell but that conversation with Lou was one of the realest moments we've seen on either Teen Mom show in a very long time. When they talk about this show possibly having an effect on teen pregnancy rates, I always imagine it is moments like that one that might make that true. Most of these other Teen Moms are driving around in expensive cars, taking 43 vacations a year and dumping their kids on a variety of babysitters all the time. As we've seen with Kail, a pregnancy in their lives these days is not a life changing disaster like it once was. Briana is collecting an MTV paycheck now but is much closer to how these girls were in the earlier seasons of the show. She knows that a pregnancy without an involved dad will basically derail whatever plans she has for her life right now. 

 

I felt like her emotions were real and raw in that scene and Lou's BS answers of "Of course I am going to be here" followed immediately by "but you'll be fine even if I am not" should be the kind of clip they pull from this show to highlight. Along with Briana saying that if she has this baby and keeps it she will never have the same choice that does to just walk away. I feel bad that both her kids will someday be able to find a video clip of their mom saying that she will be alone and "stuck with these two kids" but she isn't wrong. Maybe that scene and that honesty will leave an impression with other young girls watching this show and cause them to make better choices. 

Briana's the baby of the family.  I feel like she's a spoiled princess;  didn't she not drive?  and she only attended school for a little bit (I get that it's not for everyone.)  Brittany has a job, but she doesn't.  Almost nothing's ever been expected of the girl, so that's what she gave them...nothing.

Except adorable Nova.  the preview was beyond the pale;'  after telling Nova that she was gonna have a sister named Stella, they're suddenly asking her "what if we give the baby to someone who can take care of her?  is that okay?'  What five-year-old would understand or be cool with that?  that seems traumatizing!

[ReadMeLattice]

I thought Brianna did have a job? 

7 minutes ago, jcamm1966 said:

If I'm Javi I watch my kid that's it, Issac can go to Joe's, last thing I do is do a bitch a favor. You gotta study too bad , got cramps too bad, gotta have me time too bad.

I don't think he sees it as a favor. He sees himself as a father figure/stepfather to Isaac. I think he would be more upset if she kept Isaac from him. 

[jcamm1966]

18 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

Didn't they say that they were picking Aubrey up from a sleepover?  The girl was tired!  I could tell that immediately.  My son does the same thing when he is tired and didn't sleep enough.  She was irritable, and while she should know her manners and chill, I give my kids extra leeway when they are tired.  They just are not themselves!

Cole and the American flag shirt and patriotic stuff.  It is weird, yes?  I mean, I am sure some people have a red, white and blue shirt somewhere, but this is excessive.  

Ever been to the Dakotas , Not exactly Hilliary country, That kid has meltdowns all the time , (eyeglass store) ,  

2 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

I thought Brianna did have a job? 

I don't think he sees it as a favor. He sees himself as a father figure/stepfather to Isaac. I think he would be more upset if she kept Isaac from him. 

Like I said , my Ex wants too act like a jerk, don't expect kindness in return. I would not go out of my way after being cheated on, kicked out of my home and expect to be a babysitter because she needs some alone time, I blame Javi for this mess he saw the red flags early on and yet married her anyway, buyer beware.

[jcamm1966]

On a side note why is this show still called Teen Mom, they all are on the wrong side of 20.

[ReadMeLattice]

Yeah, I'm just saying I don't think he sees it as a kindness to Kailyn. I think he knows Kailyn is awful and wants time with a kid he sees as one of HIS children. In fact, I believe his love for Isaac delayed the divorce. Isaac called him Dad. 

Re: Hillary country, not to get into personal politics but I often wonder who the TMs and TM2s voted for. Probably most of them simply don't vote. 

[vmcd88]

The scene with Briana and her family was just unreal.   I realize the sister and the mom will be on the hook for helping Briana with the new baby but good lord if I were the baby daddy I would run screaming the hills.  Do they realize that Briana hasnt even known the guy that long?  You would think they were married or something the way the mom and sister were carrying on.    Where were they when Briana was getting knocked up?  

Everytime I see Kailyn being a bitch to Javi it warms my heart. Javi you are now in Joe's shoes..how does it feel?

[Christina87]

The thing that bothered me about the birthday was that everyone seemed to have an attitude during it. You know when you were a kid, and your mom took you on a boring errand that you schlumped through because you resented being there? I totally felt that vibe from them, like, "f***! We can't keep everything in our life private! They're insisting on SOMETHING, so instead of sitting on the couch again this week, we have to fake a damn birthday party!!!"

i totally get having different home and friends birthdays. That's what my family did! At my home birthday, my mom would make my favorite dish, and a homemade (yeah, boxed) cake. They would turn out the lights when she carried it in and sing, and it was the most exciting thing ever! The other sibling would decorate the cake, which was fun on my sister's birthday. Nobody thought it was an award-winning birthday party or anything, but it looked authentic. 

At aubree's "birthday," it felt like they'd all been laughing about the stupidity of having to reenact it, and said, "hey, you think if we trudge through this and pull a carrot cake out of a Walmart bag, they will make us do it again, or will it be more entertaining than sitting on the couch, so they'll let it go?" They all seemed to have this lazy, indignant "this is dumb" attitude about the whole thing, like it was a private family joke. There would have been nothing wrong with laughing, explaining that aubree already had a party with friends (everyone totally would have understood parents not wanting their kids on film), and taken her out for a nice meal with papa randy. 

[Snarky McSnarky]

15 hours ago, Calm81 said:

I'm curious on how these last two episodes did on the ratings scale and if BriDumber helped or hindered.

July 17th, #6 (cable), 1,487,000 viewers

July 24th, #9 (cable), 1,338,000 viewers

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-monday-cable-originals-network-finals-7-17-2017.html

 http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-monday-cable-originals-network-finals-7-24-2017.html

[BitterApple]

Briana's "stuck with these kids" comment was a little harsh, but it's the truth. With two kids by two different uninvolved fathers, no education, no skills and no job, she's dead weight and she knows it. Even though Chelsea was never a career gal, she at least came into her relationship with a trade, ownership of a house and some money in the bank. A guy looking at Briana is going to see nothing but a huge bill.  I honestly don't know what was going through her head when she decided to have this baby with Lou. She should've gotten an abortion, or arranged for an adoption early on. 

[teapot]

11 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

 I honestly don't know what was going through her head when she decided to have this baby with Lou. She should've gotten an abortion, or arranged for an adoption early on. 

maybe the news was out that TM2 was looking for another girl, and she said, "yay!  STORYLINE!!!"

[gunderda]

On 7/25/2017 at 9:55 AM, poeticlicensed said:

Did Leah drop out? 

 

She finally posted on twitter that she did because the 1 hour drive was too hard for her. 

[Snarky McSnarky]

3 minutes ago, gunderda said:

 

She finally posted on twitter that she did because the 1 hour drive was too hard for her. 

Boo Hoo.  Cry me a frikkin river.  

[Mr. Miner]

26 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Briana's "stuck with these kids" comment was a little harsh, but it's the truth. With two kids by two different uninvolved fathers, no education, no skills and no job, she's dead weight and she knows it. Even though Chelsea was never a career gal, she at least came into her relationship with a trade, ownership of a house and some money in the bank. A guy looking at Briana is going to see nothing but a huge bill.  I honestly don't know what was going through her head when she decided to have this baby with Lou. She should've gotten an abortion, or arranged for an adoption early on. 

On the Meet The New Girl special. Briana said she went to Dr. Miami for a boobs and butt job. She was an inch away from doing porn but didn't sign the contract at the last minute. I guess she spent her Teen Mom 3 money on that. I mean why wouldn't you put that money away for Nova's future? if nothing else. 

[Christina87]

I mean...she knew about the drive before!

translation: she could never get her ass out the door on time, so she decided to stay home as do pillses with Victoria. 

Leah most likely had an abysmal attendance rate before dropping out, as did Chelsea with beauty school. Gotta hand it to Kail, and even Jenelle. At least they literally have the hustle to get out the door. The bar is soooo low. I wonder how lazy Leah and Chelsea can afford to be when TM2 ends, and if we will see any more hustle from them!

[SPLAIN]

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That kid has meltdowns all the time , (eyeglass store) ,  

It was not an eyeglass store. Aubree cried when she realized the eye doctor wanted to put drops in her eyes so they could be dilated. She relented and it was done. Hardly a meltdown or tantrum. Kids don't like shots, getting drops put in their eyes or having doctors do any poking or prodding of any kind.

15 minutes ago, gunderda said:

 

She finally posted on twitter that she did because the 1 hour drive was too hard for her. 

Really? Was this recently that she tweeted this information?

[Calm81]

48 minutes ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

July 17th, #6 (cable), 1,487,000 viewers

July 24th, #9 (cable), 1,338,000 viewers

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-monday-cable-originals-network-finals-7-17-2017.html

 http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-monday-cable-originals-network-finals-7-24-2017.html

Blech. I guess the ratings are pretty good and they're here to stay for a while. Thanks for the stats.

[MaggieG]

So I don't have a problem with cursing. I drop F bombs on a daily basis. But never in front of children. I know it's the least of their issues but I hate how Brittany speaks in front of Nova. I hate how they all speak in front of Nova! Tell her to go in her room if you want to have an adult conversation.

Kail. PUT YOUR DANG PHONE DOWN!!!

[ReadMeLattice]

6 minutes ago, SPLAIN said:

It was not an eyeglass store. Aubree cried when she realized the eye doctor wanted to put drops in her eyes so they could be dilated. She relented and it was done. Hardly a meltdown or tantrum. Kids don't like shots, getting drops put in their eyes or having doctors do any poking or prodding of any kind.

Really? Was this recently that she tweeted this information?

I'd like to know too! I looked and couldn't find it, but I'm bad at Twitter.

[poeticlicensed]

22 minutes ago, gunderda said:

 

She finally posted on twitter that she did because the 1 hour drive was too hard for her. 

BS. WVSU, just like almost every other university offers an array of online courses, so no driving to campus. If she wants to have some in-person classes, she could arrange her schedule ti take a mix of in-person and online, and limit her drive to campus to only a couple days a week. I checked and the WVSU offers several degree programs that can be completed  online only. 

[SPLAIN]

22 minutes ago, Lm2162 said:

I'd like to know too! I looked and couldn't find it, but I'm bad at Twitter.

I am not savvy on Twitter either. I just looked over her page and I am not finding any tweet about school.

 

19 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

BS. WVSU, just like almost every other university offers an array of online courses, so no driving to campus. If she wants to have some in-person classes, she could arrange her schedule ti take a mix of in-person and online, and limit her drive to campus to only a couple days a week. I checked and the WVSU offers several degree programs that can be completed  online only. 

Well, first we need to confirm that she actually tweeted and gave that as a reason.

45 minutes ago, gunderda said:

 

She finally posted on twitter that she did because the 1 hour drive was too hard for her. 

Can you take a screenshot or give us a link?

 

@poeticlicensed

Kail abused Javi on camera. She grabbed him by the hair and yanked his head around like she was trying to rip it off. Jo has already been on the losing end of one of her angry outbursts. She put her hands on him, but called the police and said he was abusing her. That is when she went and got the temporary restraining order on him for two weeks and was in glee knowing he couldn't see Isaac during that time. The order was dropped. Jo knows what Kail is about and that is why I believe he plays it nice and easy around her because he knows she will easily turn around and lie about anything. If the cameras were not there that day Kail and Javi arrived at his house and put him on blast for wearing sweat pants, we'd likely have heard later how Kail and Javi were verbally attacked by Jo for no reason as they were picking up Isaac.

Edited July 26, 2017 by SPLAIN

[SPLAIN]

nm

Edited July 26, 2017 by SPLAIN

[CofCinci]

55 minutes ago, gunderda said:

 

She finally posted on twitter that she did because the 1 hour drive was too hard for her. 

Oh come on! There are many reputable online educational programs. Also, she has resources -- why does she live in bum fuck Egypt. 

 

Here is link:

Edited July 26, 2017 by CofCinci

[SPLAIN]

10 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

Oh come on! There are many reputable online educational programs. Also, she has resources -- why does she live in bum fuck Egypt. 

 

Here is link:

Thank you for finding and sharing the link

Leah is a fucking lazy hog.

[BitterApple]

Big shocker that Leah found some ridiculous excuse to drop out of school. She didn't think of the commute before registering for classes? Have online programs not made it to the attention of folks in the hollers?

It's funny because everyone on TM2 FB was slamming Gracie for being a brat when Leah tried to talk about school. Well, looks like that kid predicted the outcome from Day One. I wonder how much money Leah blew this time around?

[teapot]

1 hour ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

Boo Hoo.  Cry me a frikkin river.  

can't you take classes online nowadays?

[Miasmomma]

20 hours ago, poopchute said:

Maybe my parents were weird but I don't ever recall my mom picking me up and telling me all about her day.  Not when I was 7. Because I'm sure I didn't care! I know Leah I guess has to do it to advance the narrative of the show but of course her kids don't want to hear about her day. She did ask how their day was but didn't ask any follow ups or for any details, which I thought was weird but typical of a piece of shit self absorbed mother.  How do you not ask anything else? What was your favorite thing you did today? What did you play at recess? How did that math test go? What do you have for homework? Etc.  Instead she asked a perfunctory "how was your day" and then exclaimed WELL I WENT TO SCHOOL TODAY AND I LEARNED!!!!! It was so strange.

When i pick my 8 year old up from school I ask her about her day and then she always asks me about my day too.  I think it's part of teaching empathy and understanding. 

[teapot]

1 minute ago, Miasmomma said:

When i pick my 8 year old up from school I ask her about her day and then she always asks me about my day too.  I think it's part of teaching empathy and understanding. 

when boy-child was young I worked in a warehouse & I would tell him how I had to use math that day (I had twelve boxes and they needed to be sent to three places, so I divided  etc)  just to illustrate that he'd need math in his life.  Eventually he'd get in the car & ask me "did you have any math problems today?"

[ReadMeLattice]

I think it's nice for kids and parents to hear about each others' days and learn empathy that way. 

[poopchute]

Why would she enroll in a school that's over an hour away?

[jadecorleone]

10 minutes ago, poopchute said:

Why would she enroll in a school that's over an hour away?

I remember when my brother commuted for school. He saved all his gas receipts and was able to use it as a tax write off ( the fact that he was taking classes for his line of work helped)

[Snarky McSnarky]

3 minutes ago, jadecorleone said:

I remember when my brother commuted for school. He saved all his gas receipts and was able to use it as a tax write off ( the fact that he was taking classes for his line of work helped)

Wait, your brother worked AND commuted to college?  Don't tell Leah or Kail -- their heads will explode at the thought of someone doing both.

[jadecorleone]

1 minute ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

Wait, your brother worked AND commuted to college?  Don't tell Leah or Kail -- their heads will explode at the thought of someone doing both.

All the while being married and being active national guard.  :)

To me if someone really wants it, they will find a way to make it work.

[GreatKazu]

Leah has nothing else going on her life and she doesn't have her girlses in her care 24/7.  WTF does she have going on that an hour commute to school - something she knew beforehand - is so disruptive to her life? 

These bitches kill me. They complain about school but, it isn't as if the school came along and forced them to attend. They signed up! They know how far it is. They know the commute. Same thing with this damn show. They complain about filming their private lives *gasp* but, they SIGNED A FUCKING CONTRACT! No guns are being put to their heads. 

[Snarky McSnarky]

5 minutes ago, jadecorleone said:

All the while being married and being active national guard.  :)

To me if someone really wants it, they will find a way to make it work.

Exactly.  I've done the same (except Navy, not National Guard).  People also spend hours on public transportation, not brand new SUVs, getting to colleges in big cities.  Leah has no incentive because she can sit on her ass and make lots of money.  Why bother going to college?

Edited July 26, 2017 by Snarky McSnarky

[ReadMeLattice]

Plus, she likely signed up for a few classes a week. A school like WVSU would have very flexible scheduling available, it's not a Harvard MBA. Night classes, weekends, any day of the week, online. You would be able to go to class Tuesdays and Thursdays only quite easily, especially if she was taking basic classes like communications 101. Those would be offered multiple times a week. I used to have to commute to my PhD courses two hours away while working full time but I was easily able to arrange my schedule to only have to go twice a week. I did not have children but I was married and had a job, which she doesn't have. It was still honestly less stressful than a 9 to 5. Colleges are generally very flexible now. 

Edited July 26, 2017 by Lm2162

[JocelynCavanaugh]

As someone who teaches online college classes, I'm going to say those aren't exactly a silver bullet for Leah, either. They require a lot more self-discipline and ability to figure things out on one's own, and excuses like "but I'm a single moooooom!" or "the internet was down in the holler!" don't fly. I just can't see her completing a full semester online successfully. 

Aubree's little incident at the eye doctor was absolutely a meltdown. I remember having to fast-forward that scene because the shrieking and flailing were just horrible. It also seemed like a developmentally inappropriate reaction for her age but I could be wrong. 

[CaliforniaLove]

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It's funny because everyone on TM2 FB was slamming Gracie for being a brat when Leah tried to talk about school. Well, looks like that kid predicted the outcome from Day One. I wonder how much money Leah blew this time around?

Lol!!! Gracie must be one of those JELLUS HATERZ!!! Dear god their fans frighten me. 

[BitterApple]

1 minute ago, JocelynCavanaugh said:

Aubree's little incident at the eye doctor was absolutely a meltdown. I remember having to fast-forward that scene because the shrieking and flailing were just horrible. It also seemed like a developmentally inappropriate reaction for her age but I could be wrong. 

Aubree's always pitched tantrums. I don't think she's behind for her age, more like Chelsea was behind on laying down the law. If screaming and throwing a fit means mom will cave eventually, a kid will keep on doing it, even if they're way past the age where it would be considered normal. 

[ReadMeLattice]

2 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Aubree's always pitched tantrums. I don't think she's behind for her age, more like Chelsea was behind on laying down the law. If screaming and throwing a fit means mom will cave eventually, a kid will keep on doing it, even if they're way past the age where it would be considered normal. 

Definitely, she used to do that counting thing with absolutely no consequences at the end and would just whine "Aubreeeeee stoooopppp" a lot. She seems to have learned that taking her out for ice cream (remember that? Lol) after a tantrum and multiple counts of 3 doesn't work. 

[CaliforniaLove]

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Chelsea was behind on laying down the law.

She's really big on countdowns..."One...two.......THREE!!!!"...have we ever seen anything happen at the end of a countdown?

Jinx @Lm2162! You owe me a Coke!...or if I were Jenelle, coke. 

[Snarky McSnarky]

Just now, CaliforniaLove said:

She's really big on countdowns..."One...two.......THREE!!!!"...have we ever seen anything happen at the end of a countdown?

Yes.  Another countdown.

[poeticlicensed]

13 minutes ago, JocelynCavanaugh said:

As someone who teaches online college classes, I'm going to say those aren't exactly a silver bullet for Leah, either. They require a lot more self-discipline and ability to figure things out on one's own, and excuses like "but I'm a single moooooom!" or "the internet was down in the holler!" don't fly. I just can't see her completing a full semester online successfully.

Yep. I am a faculty member at a university that has lots of online offerings, as well as in-person, and I find that students who are "challenged" by coursework anyway tend to do worse in online classes. Unless I am reading her wrong, Leah falls into that category. My  youngest is in college right now and he won't take online courses, because he says he needs the classroom interaction with the instructor. You have to be super motivated to learn online and it's really easy to let your work slide. 

[ghoulina]

20 hours ago, poopchute said:

Maybe my parents were weird but I don't ever recall my mom picking me up and telling me all about her day.  Not when I was 7. Because I'm sure I didn't care! I know Leah I guess has to do it to advance the narrative of the show but of course her kids don't want to hear about her day.

My boys always ask their dad how his day was when he gets home. They're 7 and 9. I imagine they learned from watching me. Leah's kids wouldn't know, because she doesn't give a crap about their day. She's probably just glad to get them out of the house. She tells them about her day because she's trying so hard to push the whole, "I'm going back to school to be a good example to my daughters" thing. But they knew from day one it wasn't going to last. 

 

19 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

Unfortunately, Nova doesn't have that luxury.  Why they are having this discussion in front of her is just beyond me.  And that sister of hers...I just can't stand that thug.

Me either. Brittany kept saying she was going "easy" on Luis BECAUSE of Nova. And I'm all like, "How about taking it to the parking lot, guys?" 

 

15 hours ago, nikita said:

I like Chelsea a hell of a lot more than I like Kail. (Hate her face!) But it's weird that the fandom gives Chelsea a pass for not showing everything but not Kail. Granted, likability goes a lonnnnng way. I just found it a tad irritating/insulting(?) that, eg, Chelsea recreated Aubree's birthday party (the carrot cake one). Just felt inauthentic. I get the privacy issue. I really do. But it still just bugs.

There are multiple things going on here, but what it boils down to for me - Chelsea keeps certain things private because she respects her husband and his desire for privacy for their growing family. She likely realizes the effect this has on Aubs as she gets older, and wants to shield her as much as she can. That is NOT what is going on with Karl. Karl tries to keep things private because she's a shady fucking liar and doesn't want the narrative she's trying to craft to implode in her face. 

Chelsea is who she is, she just wants to limit her exposure. Karl is trying to live a lie. 

14 hours ago, poopchute said:

What does David bring in school have to do with the question about his glasses?  That seems totally unrelated and also totally made up.

I think she was trying to say that he had his glasses on for school (to see the blackboard in his one room school house), and then he came to meet her for lunch after class. They're transitions, so they got dark when he was outside and were still dark when they first sat down? Bull fucking shit, but I think that's what she meant. 

[jadecorleone]

15 minutes ago, JocelynCavanaugh said:

As someone who teaches online college classes, I'm going to say those aren't exactly a silver bullet for Leah, either. They require a lot more self-discipline and ability to figure things out on one's own, and excuses like "but I'm a single moooooom!" or "the internet was down in the holler!" don't fly. I just can't see her completing a full semester online successfully. 

Aubree's little incident at the eye doctor was absolutely a meltdown. I remember having to fast-forward that scene because the shrieking and flailing were just horrible. It also seemed like a developmentally inappropriate reaction for her age but I could be wrong. 

I thought online classes would be a breeze for me. Oh boy was I wrong. They definately require a lot more self-discipline and for someone like me who gets distracted while being online, it makes it worse.  Its why I never used my laptop to take notes. I would get to class a few minutes early, boot up my laptop and browse while waiting for class to start and next thing I know, there is 15 minutes left of class and I missed most of the lecture.  People would look at me funny for taking notes on actual paper, but for me it helps me retain info and forces me to focus.

I guess what gets me about Leah is she is or was taking classes simply to have something to do. If she were to come out and say "I tried college, decided it wasnt for me and Id rather be at home" thats fine. But she treats the whole thing in such a casual manner that it rubs me the wrong way. Especially since Ive had to leave school twice due to relocating out of state and not being able to afford the out of state tuition.

[gunderda]

Sorry everyone - i assumed it was already posted in her own thread lol  

I didn't mean to drop the bomb and then leave!