Season 2 Discussion

[Samurai X]

I could barely see anything after that massive shade Russ was throwing.

Edited August 28, 2017 by Samurai X

[kacesq]

4 minutes ago, jacksgirl said:

So much to snark on. Danielle's hair looked good. Mohammed is such a tool. Jorge would take Anfisa back in 2 seconds if she asked. Surprised at Loren going after Mohammed so passionately. She and Alexi may be the only ones who make it. Russ threw some major shade at Pao's modelling jobs. Wonder how many she has turned down.  Not many I guess.

And honestly if she did turn down jobs, it was probably because they were things she didn't want to do...she's pretty much demonstrated she doesn't care if Russ approves.

[NinaH]

Serves Pao right, Russ giving her a hard time.  He has bent over backwards for her and endured her hateful little bitch friend without any defense from her. Glad she got a dose of her own medicine. But he will probably kiss her ass to make up for it. 

[spankydoll]

Just now, Samurai X said:

I could barely see anything after that massive shade Russ was throwing.

Pao is trying to set up Russ to stop him from filing an annulment claim.  I have more respect for Anfisa at this point. 

[Miss Chevious]

What was the mysterious thing coming up Jorge alluded to? Is he planning to divorce Anfisa? 

Loren is so feisty!

[brillia79]

3 minutes ago, spankydoll said:

Pao is trying to set up Russ to stop him from filing an annulment claim.  I have more respect for Anfisa at this point. 

Everyone sitting on that stage who was attacking Mohammed and Anfisa were phonies, especially Paola. I actually liked that Alexei said that he didn't feel too bad for Danielle and Jorge basically because their hands weren't clean.

Plus, I'm tired of Lauren lying to him in one season, only to shock him with the truth on camera the next season. I can see them splitting up because he gets tired of her manipulations.

Every relationship on this show is on quicksand.

[Awfarmington]

2 minutes ago, Miss Chevious said:

What was the mysterious thing coming up Jorge alluded to? Is he planning to divorce Anfisa? 

Loren is so feisty!

I think he wants to out her porn experience, at least that's my hunch. 

[guilfoyleatpp]

I feel like Mohammed was being as honest as he's ever been when he said that his relationship with Danielle didn't start out as love. And Paola was being a bitch...although she's not totally in the wrong. Yes, Paola, your relationship with Russ started out differently than Mohammed's relationship with Danielle. You're both young and attractive and you met in person and you found each other sexually attractive.  Did you know that you were going to get married right away? I can believe that the idea of the adventure of being married to a foreign spouse was also appealing to her. He didn't have to be American, but he was attractive...and different.

Mohammed is an ass, though. Telling Loren to shut it or whatever. I wanted her to punch him in the mouth.

[NinaH]

Loren needs to get out of everyone else's business, especially Jorge and Anfisa's. They had an arrangement and Anfisa was always upfront about what she wanted.  She has a point about some of them making a mockery of the k1 visa and process, but cursing at them and being hostile cheapens it.  

[poeticlicensed]

I am team Loren. As much as she usually annoys me, her outrage at Jorge and anfisa and mo was great. 

[Awfarmington]

5 minutes ago, NinaH said:

Loren needs to get out of everyone else's business, especially Jorge and Anfisa's. They had an arrangement and Anfisa was always upfront about what she wanted.  She has a point about some of them making a mockery of the k1 visa and process, but cursing at them and being hostile cheapens it.  

Loren's been made the center of attention (with her family) for so long, that I think she over estimates the importance of her opinion. 

[Bibi]

10 minutes ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

I feel like Mohammed was being as honest as he's ever been when he said that his relationship with Danielle didn't start out as love. And Paola was being a bitch...although she's not totally in the wrong. Yes, Paola, your relationship with Russ started out differently than Mohammed's relationship with Danielle. You're both young and attractive and you met in person and you found each other sexually attractive.  Did you know that you were going to get married right away? I can believe that the idea of the adventure of being married to a foreign spouse was also appealing to her. He didn't have to be American, but he was attractive...and different.

Mohammed is an ass, though. Telling Loren to shut it or whatever. I wanted her to punch him in the mouth.

Have you heard the way Loren is shouting at everybody??

Or maybe she thinks her so called disease allows her to insult everyone. Can't she mind her own couple?

I don't even get why there's no reaction from the host. All we could hear was Loren. 

[Adeejay]

Loren was a bit high handed, but she had a point. Couples like Jorge/Anfisa and Dani/Mo make it harder for couples that are actually in love and want to make a life together. Thing is, as long as there are lonely hearts, there will always be scammers looking for a way out of their situation.  It seems to be a huge problem in the UK as well. 

[Mr. Miner]

I know! Loren and her trettes can STFU.

[Miss Chevious]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Minor said:

I know! Loren and her trettes can STFU.

Amen. She's even more annoying in the tell-all shows. 

[kacesq]

FWIW, the host on this show was just as useless this year as she was last year. Why can't any reality show find someone decent to host these things?

[NinaH]

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see the big deal that Pao was trying to make re Mo & Danielle not having romantic feelings for each other initially.  The way I understood Mo is that he was living and working away from home, basically doing nothing but working and was lonely. Talking to Danielle online gave him something to look forward to and he slowly began to develop feelings for her. That's so terrible??  To me, that's how a good relationship starts, getting to know someone else as a person and friend and let the romance feelings develop from there. I'm not a spicy Latina though so maybe I'm wrong. 

[Miss Chevious]

3 minutes ago, kacesq said:

FWIW, the host on this show was just as useless this year as she was last year. Why can't any reality show find someone decent to host these things?

Yep, she was losing control of the room more than once during Part 1. Not holding out much hope for the other two parts. Wonder how many people will stalk off the stage. Think I'll start a drinking game for that.

[guilfoyleatpp]

To me, Loren only said to Anfisa and Mohammed what many of us think. And Alexei said to Jorge and Danielle what many of us would like to.  Which is, quit bitching. Being American doesn't mean you are LESS of a scammer than the person you lied to in order to get them here. I'm firmly on #TeamLoren&Alexei for speaking truth.

[sainte-chapelle]

Anfisa " I am not the nicest person but I always was honest and he lied the whole time." I don't like her but that is a truth bomb, " I brought her here " oh f u Jorge you play the victim and she is not your property. "It's a blessing to come here" oh F off

[Real Eyes]

44 minutes ago, brillia79 said:

Everyone sitting on that stage who was attacking Mohammed and Anfisa were phonies, especially Paola. I actually liked that Alexei said that he didn't feel too bad for Danielle and Jorge basically because their hands weren't clean.

Plus, I'm tired of Lauren lying to him in one season, only to shock him with the truth on camera the next season. I can see them splitting up because he gets tired of her manipulations.

Every relationship on this show is on quicksand.

They are phonies. Neither of them denied their intention was to obtain a green card. Loren was correct that it makes it more difficult for real couples when you have foreigners scamming delusional Americans. Note-I am not defending either Danielle or Jorge. 

[Granny58]

53 minutes ago, Miss Chevious said:

What was the mysterious thing coming up Jorge alluded to

Pages back regarding another episode a poster provided the link to Anfisa's "modeling" career.  Not sure if it was outright porn, but it was her dressed in provocative clothing for a webcam.  Again, I do not know if it went further than that.  

[sainte-chapelle]

Anfisa looks less plastic or is that just me? Terrible editing as one moment she has no lipstick on and the next glossy lips

Edited August 28, 2017 by sainte-chapelle

[DangerousMinds]

50 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

I am team Loren. As much as she usually annoys me, her outrage at Jorge and anfisa and mo was great. 

Me too! I never really cared for her before, but I love her now. There is no reason why Anfisa can't work and earn at least some of her own money. No excuses.

27 minutes ago, NinaH said:

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see the big deal that Pao was trying to make re Mo & Danielle not having romantic feelings for each other initially.  The way I understood Mo is that he was living and working away from home, basically doing nothing but working and was lonely. Talking to Danielle online gave him something to look forward to and he slowly began to develop feelings for her. That's so terrible??  To me, that's how a good relationship starts, getting to know someone else as a person and friend and let the romance feelings develop from there. I'm not a spicy Latina though so maybe I'm wrong. 

I actually understood what he was saying there for the first time. But - guess  what Mo? Life is like that for many of us. You work, you go home, and then get right back up and do it again tomorrow. However, IIRC, he proposed to Danielle, not the other way around!

Edited August 28, 2017 by DangerousMinds

[LittleLambOhWhere]

Jorge and Anfisa: Jorge is unfortunately reaping what he has sown. His sisters warned him and he knew better. Can't feel bad for him. I'm still interested in what dirt he has on her that he just can't wait to spill. ALSO, bitterness is such an ugly thing on him. It's aging him and making him look dark and wicked...

Loren: Isn't she a little spitfire? I think the cursing and shrill shouting is weakening her argument and making her seem less clasy but she is hitting on some truths. 

Chantel: Still talking through those clenched teeth...Her discussing passing down a horrible disease (or however she said it) seemed juvenile. Tourette's is an not easy disorder to live with but Loren doesn't have HIV or AIDS. She is not damaged goods...I'm tired of this narrative. :(

Pao: I got the feeling that she was playing things up for the camera. She could have just stayed calm and said they had already dealt with their issues BUT that doesn't make for good TV, does it? I was semi bored with their back and forth and Pao's response. -_-

Mohamed: He managed to whip out some pretty good -although not very heartfelt- defenses. I almost believed him when he discussed the beginning of his relationship with Danielle. However, his intentions still were not primarily about longevity or a true loving relationship with his wife.

Finally, does anyone wonder how Alexi fell for Loren? I imagine it has to do with that Mila Kunis allure she has...?

[brillia79]

3 minutes ago, Real Eyes said:

They are phonies. Neither of them denied their intention was to obtain a green card. Loren was correct that it makes it more difficult for real couples when you have foreigners scamming delusional Americans. Note-I am not defending either Danielle or Jorge. 

Or when you have Americans lying to bring someone over that they can control and blackmail into staying in bad marriages. And the non-citizen is always at a disadvantage.

Honestly, the whole reason Dani and Jorge went overseas is because they couldn't sell their bullshit in the USA anymore/ever.

But that was all missing from Lauren's "let's make it all about me" moment.

[Real Eyes]

6 minutes ago, brillia79 said:

Or when you have Americans lying to bring someone over that they can control and blackmail into staying in bad marriages. And the non-citizen is always at a disadvantage.

Honestly, the whole reason Dani and Jorge went overseas is because they couldn't sell their bullshit in the USA anymore/ever.

But that was all missing from Lauren's "let's make it all about me" moment.

Neither Mohammed nor Anfisa entered their marriages with any feeling of love. That is the issue. 

[Cherrio]

Jorge aka Gorge,

      You are a lazy, overweight and ugly guy.   You wanted something, someone you could never have. Its the simple truth.

       You lied about everything because you were hoping the gifts and money would blind a young pretty girl into liking/putting up with you.

        Anfisa never lied about what she wanted and expected.

         How many time did they film you taking her to buy something expensive only to come out empty handed?   You played games, trying on forty thousand dollar gowns, telling her its fine.

              Now you think you are going to come out swinging at the reunion?   With what?  Rolls of flab?  Cause that is all you have.

         So, Anfisa is materialistic.  She also seems to be quite intelligent.

                         I didn't have a problem with Loren. Someone had to host the show.

[brillia79]

Just now, Real Eyes said:

Neither Mohammed nor Anfisa entered their marriages with any feeling of love. That is the issue. 

Not really. Lots of people enter into marriages without love for lots of reasons. Arranged marriages don't start out as love. Alla did not love Matt when she married him last season. Love as basis for marriage is relatively new. If there's something to work with, love will grow. If your spouse reveals he/she can't secure housing/pay utilities because of a criminal record, bad credit and inability to pass a background check, that'll douse those love flames.

The marriages on this show are lust based, not love. No couples on that stage knew one  another well enough to declare love when they got married. They didn't even know basic things about one another. Whose really lying here?

Anfisa was upfront with Jorge, who is a pathological liar. Dani and Mo were lying to each other.

Dani and Jorge contributed to their fraudulent marriages. I'm not gonna let them off the hook just because they are US citizens.

[poeticlicensed]

Did anyone notice that when Jorge was sitting down, his shirt was so tight across his belly that it was gaping open? Gross, at least buy a shirt that fits. 

 

Mo, Dani anfisa and Jorge are all equally responsible for making a mockery of the k1 process. 

[Frozendiva]

I only saw the last 20 or so minutes.

Some pretty girls may put up with crap for nice things - it's like a job, and these are the benefits. Doesn't last long til they find someone new. Expensive gifts and money are nice but they tend to earn every dime. Jorge, Anfisa was up-front with what she wanted from you. You fell in 'love' with a fantasy and now it's turned in to a nightmare.

Did notice Pao's Louboutin shoes - not even the 'basic' ones for under $1000. Those were in the four figure range as part of the 'fashion' line. Maybe she got some money from the video but really, you can find ones on sale sometimes for less than half-price.

There is still an unequal powerbase in these 'marriages' where the American holds the cards. Any of the really boring 'marriages' for the visa are not shown on this show. Just the drama.

[jackjill89]

I was appalled at the way they treated the possibility of Loren's child having Tourette's. For goodness sake, it's not cancer. So, you have a special needs child. Guess what? Your life will not end. The child will have many strengths as well as the challenges brought on by the disability, IF he/she inherits it. I thought Chantal's response was horrid. She's a nurse! It's not a disease! Holy crap, let's make Loren feel worse than she already does. Different doesn't mean less or bad. I thought that whole conversation was awful. I don't think Chantal has taken her class on bedside manners yet. Paola was the one who had the nicest things to say. 

[brillia79]

1 minute ago, Frozendiva said:

There is still an unequal powerbase in these 'marriages' where the American holds the cards. Any of the really boring 'marriages' for the visa are not shown on this show. Just the drama.

Yes. Every time someone talks about what they are owed because they brought a foreign spouse to the USA, I get creepy abuser vibes. Because they aren't on equal footing and the American spouses are counting on that.

[jaybird2]

2 hours ago, Kid said:

Jorge is an ass.  

they deserve each other

 

9 minutes ago, SoshulMeedya said:

Yes, they really should have edited out Chantel's comment. 

i don't remember her comment.  what was it?

Edited August 28, 2017 by jaybird2

[spankydoll]

Loubitons scream escort/yacht girl. Pao is going about this all wrong. The cheap blonde extentions. Shaking her booty at that creepy "model networking" party. She is cheapening her brand. 

[Frozendiva]

2 minutes ago, spankydoll said:

Loubitons scream escort/yacht girl. Pao is going about this all wrong. The cheap blonde extentions. Shaking her booty at that creepy "model networking" party. She is cheapening her brand. 

I own 8 pairs of Louboutin shoes - many are older styles as they are not available here any more. Most I bought on sale. I also own a few pairs of Manolos and Choos, Miu Miu, etc. The Louboutin brand has cheapened a bit for me. There are women who have shoe closets filled with them - check out The Purse Forum. They can indeed scream 'yacht' girl or just someone who wants the perceived 'prestige'.  Does Pao have any other skills or education that could land her a decent job?

[Awfarmington]

3 minutes ago, spankydoll said:

Loubitons scream escort/yacht girl. Pao is going about this all wrong. The cheap blonde extentions. Shaking her booty at that creepy "model networking" party. She is cheapening her brand. 

I can hardly concentrate on anything she says, because her extensions are increasing more obvious. I was looking at the back of her head, her real hair looks extremely short. Between the weight of the fake hair, and the bleaching, her real hair is probably breaking off in clumps! 

[JocelynCavanaugh]

1 hour ago, LittleLambOhWhere said:

Loren: Isn't she a little spitfire? I think the cursing and shrill shouting is weakening her argument and making her seem less classy but she is hitting on some truths. 

You're right, but I am still here for it. She's absolutely right and Mahamit's "responses" were totally irrelevant because he can't defend what he's done. He was whining about how the Americans' needs always take preference which 1) is just not true [Exhibit A: Paola] and 2) even if it were, that's your problem, buddy. Nobody asked you to join us here. Besides that, his ass can go back to Tunisia with that trying to tell women how to speak or what words they can use. That does not fly here, no sir. 

During one of the breaks I think I heard Alexei calmly telling Loren not to touch Mo. He probably knows better than anyone that his Jewish wife shouldn't risk making physical contact with a Muslim man. That could set off an even bigger shitstorm. He is the poster boy for Looking to be Offended.

[LunaMia]

41 minutes ago, SoshulMeedya said:

She referred to the possibility of Loren having a child with Tourette's as "having a horrible disease"

That was so cringe worthy. 

Host: Chantel, you're in nursing what did you think of that scene.

Chantel through clenched teeth: I couldn't imagine having the worry of bringing a baby into the world with a horrible disease-uh. 

Oy vey

Edited August 28, 2017 by LunaMia
Clenched not gritted

[sleepyjean]

Loved that the host thought Chantel would have an opinion on Loren's trettes because Chantel is "in nursing." And then Chantel pipes up and calls it a "terrible disease." 

Loved how Mohamed got all puffed up and self-righteous like he always does, even though he hasn't a leg to stand on.
Loved Jorge thinking how clever he was to lure Anfisa to the show so he could go off, then then proceeded to not say anything worth hearing.

Loved that the host asked Pedro how he knew Chantel was the one when he could barely speak English, and his English is still terrible.

Loved how Pao said "you're welcome" to the audience for that scene where she was in lingerie because of course, she is a gift to all of us, isn't she?

This show is so fun.

Edited August 28, 2017 by sleepyjean

[TrininisaScorp]

When they were showing the initial montage, I’m not sure I understand the look of disbelief on all of their faces.  You all were there and said these things to each other with cameras there, and I know all of you probably watch the show religiously.  Why y’all surprised?!

Jorge is real first class asshole.  Trying to come on tv all big and bad and tough, when he has been spending his time so far like a little bitch.  I get a feeling he got shit from people about what a putz he looked like on tv and decided to come on here and “be a man”.  He’s the worst bullshit. IMO, worse than Anfisa’s golddigging ass. 

I will say while Loren wasn’t elegant in her delivery, her reactions and expressions were some TRUTH.

Mohammed is just the victim’s victim, right?  If I had to hear “I’m not here for this or to be spoken to like this” one more time… Bruh.  You look shady and like a using asshole.  Additionally, I feel like there is something about him that just makes women want to throttle him.  I paid attention to test my theory:  Every woman in that room give him the “oh, go fuck yourself” eyes at least once.   

The Tourette’s drama was super overblown.  Any child having an issue is hard, but there are so many more debilitating things a child could have.  Not to downplay the difficulty of any disease, but damn y’all, calm your tits.  Chantel could have possibly STFU in that situation.

With Pao or Russ, these continue to be incompatible people.  Her “career”  is clearly more important to her than Russ, and his control is more important to him than her.  Period.   Mean comment alert:  Both Russ and Pao have some shitty hair going on.

[spankydoll]

Are we going to be done with Danielle after this season ? Its tiresome. 

[Hellohappylife]

Lmao my husband said through out the whole thing "Russ & Pao are that couple that acts like their relationship is perfect when their in a group of people,but you know back home they hate each other most of the time"

[Kid]

57 minutes ago, jackjill89 said:

I was appalled at the way they treated the possibility of Loren's child having Tourette's. For goodness sake, it's not cancer. So, you have a special needs child. Guess what? Your life will not end. The child will have many strengths as well as the challenges brought on by the disability, IF he/she inherits it. I thought Chantal's response was horrid. She's a nurse! It's not a disease! Holy crap, let's make Loren feel worse than she already does. Different doesn't mean less or bad. I thought that whole conversation was awful. I don't think Chantal has taken her class on bedside manners yet. Paola was the one who had the nicest things to say. 

Let's face it, Chantel is not the brightest bulb in the marquee.

[spankydoll]

1 minute ago, Kid said:

Let's face it, Chantel is not the brightest bulb in the marquee.

And she was raised by very rude people 

[Hellohappylife]

I find Loren annoying most of the time,but gotta admit I loved her on this. She wasn't holding back shit at all. 

[jaybird2]

3 minutes ago, Hellohappylife said:

I find Loren annoying most of the time,but gotta admit I loved her on this. She wasn't holding back shit at all. 

i guess i'm the only one liking loren

[Desert Rat]

1 hour ago, jackjill89 said:

I was appalled at the way they treated the possibility of Loren's child having Tourette's. For goodness sake, it's not cancer. So, you have a special needs child. Guess what? Your life will not end. The child will have many strengths as well as the challenges brought on by the disability, IF he/she inherits it. I thought Chantal's response was horrid. She's a nurse! It's not a disease! Holy crap, let's make Loren feel worse than she already does. Different doesn't mean less or bad. I thought that whole conversation was awful. I don't think Chantal has taken her class on bedside manners yet. Paola was the one who had the nicest things to say. 

What was said about Tourette's was shockingly ignorant.  Loren and the Tourette's organization have their work cut out for them educating people about this condition.  

[Desert Rat]

40 minutes ago, LunaMia said:

That was so cringe worthy. 

Host: Chantel, you're in nursing what did you think of that scene.

Chantel through clenched teeth: I couldn't imagine having the worry of bringing a baby into the world with a horrible disease-uh. 

Oy vey

I noticed Loren just ignored Chantal's b.s.  Loren really only cares whether Alexei and his family accept her Tourette's. She could care less about bitches like Chantal. 

[pollywood]

I just put this episode on and WHY WHY WHY is that host back?!?! She is the worst. My bestie watched it earlier and told me Chantel got boobs. I see it now. Where's Mohamed's selfie stick to document everything? What the hell news could Danielle possibly have to tell him? That she's moving next door to him or she got a PI to follow him or something else stalkerish and probably illegal?

I can't believe I am saying this, but I agree with Mohamed about the way the Americans treat the immigrants like objects and that it was such a great sacrifice to bring them to the US. Some of them like Alexei came from perfectly fine places.

Edited August 28, 2017 by pollywood