Bosch: Legacy - General Discussion

[Raja]

2 hours ago, Dminches said:

I don’t agree that she is “never wrong.”  There was the one scene in the boyfriend’s apartment after the garage shooting.  They were eating dinner. Her boyfriend wanted to talk to her about what she went through and she overreacted and started to call an Uber to leave.  I never viewed her as being without flaws.  Didn’t she take some information from Chandler’s office in season 6 and tell her Dad?

 

A lot of people thought seasons 4 and 5 of the The Wire were weaker than 1-3.  Personally I really liked all the seasons but that isn’t universal.

 

4 was the city schools season and I thought general ratings place that season as The Wire's best.

[laprin]

5 hours ago, Dminches said:

 

A lot of people thought seasons 4 and 5 of the The Wire were weaker than 1-3.  Personally I really liked all the seasons but that isn’t universal.

 

Season 4 of The Wire was the most critically acclaimed and has a 98/100 score on Metacritic and 9.5 aggregate rating on IMDB. Season 5 wasn’t as strong, but Bosch’s best season can’t hold a candle to it. I will say, at its best, Bosch did remind me of The Wire. I attribute that to Eric Overmyer as showrunner. He wrote and produced several episodes of The Wire starting in S4. 

[Dminches]

7 hours ago, laprin said:

Season 4 of The Wire was the most critically acclaimed and has a 98/100 score on Metacritic and 9.5 aggregate rating on IMDB. Season 5 wasn’t as strong, but Bosch’s best season can’t hold a candle to it. I will say, at its best, Bosch did remind me of The Wire. I attribute that to Eric Overmyer as showrunner. He wrote and produced several episodes of The Wire starting in S4. 

As I said, I really like all 5 seasons.  My point was that not all seasons (I forgot about 4 being liked a lot) were considered great by everyone.  I do agree that The Wire is a much better series than Bosch in many ways.  It is in my top 5, maybe top 3.

 

[Shriekingeel]

Speaking of meta, did anyone else notice Season 6 Jerry quoting Marlo? 
 

“The game is the game”. 

[jabRI]

For me, the biggest plot hole was the whole deposition prep drama.  Just find it hard to believe a firm would only have it on USB drives and not backed up someplace.  Even though it was only prep, most law firms I've worked with have lots of back ups.

[Raja]

6 minutes ago, jabRI said:

For me, the biggest plot hole was the whole deposition prep drama.  Just find it hard to believe a firm would only have it on USB drives and not backed up someplace.  Even though it was only prep, most law firms I've worked with have lots of back ups.

Since we are taking a The Wire rabbit hole. It may have been like that being written about a drug lord using beepers long after they were gone.  I would bet the source material was written long before cloud based backups

[jabRI]

But don't you think there must have been a leak at Chandler's office? How else would the killer know that the witness was being prepped, he'd get a laptop and a thumbdrive, and Chandler would get a thumbdrive to be retrieved?  How did they know it wasn't backed up to a server, or a thumbdrive kept at the office?  I'm wondering if it was her assistant that became unavailable? 

[jabRI]

Just also wanted to comment that the Billets story line was not a throw-away or an afterthought. 

Women in positions like she is in have suffered through years of micro-aggressions.  Where it comes to the point where a highly ranked police official is supposed to look the other way because MALE patrolmen think she is fair game..... come on, this could have been the lead story of the last season.

[FishyJoe]

A couple things didn't make sense at the end. How did the illegal immigrant dad know that Pena was going to be at the police station? There was no way for him to know that Pena would be at the station at all, not to mention at what time. I guess Bosch could have told him, but that means that Bosch was partially responsible for his death. 

And what was the purpose of having the Vegas dude involved in the story? It added nothing and we only saw the guy once being arrested. There must have been something that was cut from the story because it didn't make a whole lot of sense. 

Also kidnapping a judge just to get into a garage seems insane. A professional hitman should have a hundred ways to get into a parking garage that doesn't involve kidnapping and murdering a federal judge. And leaving the body slumped in car was so stupid, anybody could have seen that from a mile a way and the garage would have been locked down. 

Edited August 1, 2021 by FishyJoe

[torqy]

A question for those in the know: I notice that most of the episodes run around 40 minutes. Since Bosch  does not have commercials, is this running time set so that if the show is re-broadcast at some point commercials can be added?

[madmax]

21 hours ago, FishyJoe said:

Also kidnapping a judge just to get into a garage seems insane. A professional hitman should have a hundred ways to get into a parking garage that doesn't involve kidnapping and murdering a federal judge. And leaving the body slumped in car was so stupid, anybody could have seen that from a mile a way and the garage would have been locked down. 

This wasn't just to get in the garage.  It was also to get to Bosch.  She was his "special friend."

[FishyJoe]

19 hours ago, madmax said:

This wasn't just to get in the garage.  It was also to get to Bosch.  She was his "special friend."

It's still really stupid. Killing a federal judge would attract the attention of every law enforcement agency in the country. Law enforcement can't let something like that go unsolved. 

[Ottis]

On 3/29/2020 at 2:35 PM, Sweet-tea said:

I also like how reined in the show is with dialogue. There are so many short but meaningful conversations, no speeches which I can’t stand. There’s an understated quality to much of what Bosch says and I noticed his daughter does it too. 

I think it is hilarious how many times characters on this show, especially Bosch and Irving, just end calls, or walk away from discussions, without even a "bye" or any indication that the discussion is ending. They just hang up, or turn and walk away, and everyone is cool with it. It's like a bunch of socially impaired people who struggle with conversation, but they all expect it from each other so no one is offended.

I was late to this show and binged it. It didn't impress me at first. The doggedness of the character won me over. 

The actress who played Maddie had an unusually large amount of screen time. Her transformation was given almost center stage. She is a fine actress, and I found her character likeable, but I had almost zero interest in what Maddie was doing. I FF'd through almost all of her scenes alone, especially the ones in the desert and the ones with her boyfriends.

Bosch was kind of like the jazz he loves ... low-key, not always well-known, but solid and talented.

[catrice2]

Maddie is the worst part of this show......and I will miss J Edgar in the spinoff. I also came to love the rest of the squad. 

I would love to see him and ( can't remember her name from NYPD Blue) the female detective in their new squad.  I would have loved to see if he got back on track and started dating the other detective...

[Sweet-tea]

On 8/4/2021 at 9:57 PM, catrice2 said:

Maddie is the worst part of this show......and I will miss J Edgar in the spinoff. I also came to love the rest of the squad. 

I would love to see him and ( can't remember her name from NYPD Blue) the female detective in their new squad.  I would have loved to see if he got back on track and started dating the other detective...

I really like Maddie. I think the actress playing her is great, and the character has such poise and grace for someone her age. I enjoy watching her. 

I just finished season 7. The hospital scene with Maddie and Honey was so touching.

Looking forward to the spin-off! 

Edited August 8, 2021 by Sweet-tea

[bigmag]

I have 2 questions - how can J. Edgar afford a Cadillac, a VERY nice house with a circular drive as well as his own apartment on a detective's salary.  Do they really make that much money?

And somehow I must have missed the part where J. Edgar shot the long-haired special forces stoner guy (Woody, I think his name was?) in season 3.  I knew he was tailing Bosch but I never saw anything about him getting taken down, then next thing I know they focus on J. Edgar having shot him.  Did I miss something in one of the episodes or were we just supposed to infer what happened?  Love the show BTW.

Edited August 15, 2021 by bigmag

[AZChristian]

16 minutes ago, bigmag said:

I have 2 questions - how can J. Edgar afford a Cadillac, a VERY nice house with a circular drive as well as his own apartment on a detective's salary.  Do they really make that much money?

I think he was selling real estate on the side.

[Prevailing Wind]

2 hours ago, AZChristian said:

I think he was selling real estate on the side.

I don't recall that being a thing in the show, but in the books it was.

[AZChristian]

7 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

I don't recall that being a thing in the show, but in the books it was.

They mentioned it in the earlier seasons.  J. Edgar even tried to get Bosch to list his house through J. Edgar.  And LAPD detectives make $100,000+.  

[bigmag]

I also don't understand why they would use an unpaid intern who makes copies and distributes mail (Maddie) to take notes during a witness/victim interview.  I love this series and am willing to suspend disbelief for many things, but this just seems like very sloppy procedure. Would this really happen? Why can't the officer take his/her own notes or use recordings?

[roughing it]

bigmag, if I remember correctly, the person who normally assisted with recording was out, so Honey asked Maddie to set it up.

[FinnishViewer]

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I knew he was tailing Bosch but I never saw anything about him getting taken down, then next thing I know they focus on J. Edgar having shot him. 

It was in episode 7 around 31:50.

[transitfan]

On 8/4/2021 at 10:57 PM, catrice2 said:

 

I would love to see him and ( can't remember her name from NYPD Blue) the female detective in their new squad.  I would have loved to see if he got back on track and started dating the other detective...

The actress is Jacqueline Obradors.  She played Det. Rita Ortiz on NYPD Blue in the last few seasons.

[dleighg]

8 hours ago, transitfan said:

The actress is Jacqueline Obradors.

I was watching that season with my husband and he said "oh that's the actress that was in Tortilla Soup". Note that this was a movie we saw once, on a plane, shortly after it came out, in 2001.

Since I'm moderately face blind, and all brown haired women look exactly alike, I could only shake my head.

[Mindthinkr]

Does anyone want a spoiler about the new series that they are currently filming? I have one. 

[AZChristian]

1 hour ago, Mindthinkr said:

Does anyone want a spoiler about the new series that they are currently filming? I have one. 

I'd love one . . . just put it in spoiler tags so those who don't want to be spoiled aren't!!!

[Mindthinkr]

Spoiler

Maddie becomes a cop 

 

[dleighg]

Is that really a spoiler? 

Spoiler

Didn't she apply to the academy at the end of last season?

 

[Mindthinkr]

2 minutes ago, dleighg said:

Is that really a spoiler? 

  Hide contents

I thought so. I think: 

Spoiler

She became a bit unsettled at how her Dad left the force and she also had an offer to continue working for Honey and finishing out her law degree. 

 

[AZChristian]

During a spell of "let's re-watch something we know we love," we just re-binged Bosch.

Okay . . . I googled and found out that Lance Reddick had a back injury when he was a younger man, which may have affected his gait.

Even so, I just wish they hadn't ever had "Irv Irving" hustling down a hallway in an attempt to look menacing.  I just can't help but think that - with his short stride and rolling chest - he looks like a robot gone bad. 

It would have been more dramatically effective not to have those long hallway walks for him.  JMO.

[yourmomiseasy]

I recall there being talk about the house earlier in the thread and how the location was found etc.  Here's info on it https://www.dirt.com/gallery/locations/filming-locations/bosch-house-hollywood-hills-1203388745/lb-bosch-house-hollywood-hills-10/

[AZChristian]

7 hours ago, yourmomiseasy said:

I recall there being talk about the house earlier in the thread and how the location was found etc.  Here's info on it https://www.dirt.com/gallery/locations/filming-locations/bosch-house-hollywood-hills-1203388745/lb-bosch-house-hollywood-hills-10/

We're going over to L.A. in a couple of weeks, and are compiling a list of Bosch-related places we want to visit.  Du Par's, Angel's Flight, the house (from below), police headquarters, city hall, etc.

[yourmomiseasy]

On 10/6/2021 at 6:40 AM, AZChristian said:

We're going over to L.A. in a couple of weeks, and are compiling a list of Bosch-related places we want to visit.  Du Par's, Angel's Flight, the house (from below), police headquarters, city hall, etc.

I'm not sure you can get in to City Hall and the Police HQ due to COVID.  Most of the employees that work in City Hall are still working from home and last I heard City Hall is still closed to the public.  I think you can get appointments for certain official business.  I was actually there the day it shutdown sitting the Mayor's conference room being stood up because he was busy at a press conference announcing that City Hall was shutting down.  I haven't been back since because they don't want people there and everything is under electronic governance due to the continued state of emergency.  I don't know if the LAPD HQ is open to the public due to COVID either, but even if it is open, I'm pretty sure the lobby is as far as you can get and it's not worth finding parking to see the lobby.  Beyond the lobby any part I've been in just looks like any other office building and I've needed police escort due to official business to get beyond the lobby.  I guess some things are semi-open as I have a jury duty summons this week, so the court house is at least doing something, but again not sure they are letting the general public in. 

If you go to Du Pars get the pancakes.

[AZChristian]

48 minutes ago, yourmomiseasy said:

I'm not sure you can get in to City Hall and the Police HQ due to COVID.  Most of the employees that work in City Hall are still working from home and last I heard City Hall is still closed to the public.  I think you can get appointments for certain official business.  I was actually there the day it shutdown sitting the Mayor's conference room being stood up because he was busy at a press conference announcing that City Hall was shutting down.  I haven't been back since because they don't want people there and everything is under electronic governance due to the continued state of emergency.  I don't know if the LAPD HQ is open to the public due to COVID either, but even if it is open, I'm pretty sure the lobby is as far as you can get and it's not worth finding parking to see the lobby.  Beyond the lobby any part I've been in just looks like any other office building and I've needed police escort due to official business to get beyond the lobby.  I guess some things are semi-open as I have a jury duty summons this week, so the court house is at least doing something, but again not sure they are letting the general public in. 

If you go to Du Pars get the pancakes.

We're just planning to see the outside of the buildings,  as well as the memorial wall outside of the LAPD Headquarters.   Pancakes at Du Pars is DEFINITELY on the agenda!

[Prevailing Wind]

9 hours ago, yourmomiseasy said:

If you go to Du Pars get the pancakes.

...and put the syrup on the plate first.

[AZChristian]

4 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

...and put the syrup on the plate first.

Is there any other way?  We do this at home now, and call it "Pancakes a la Bosch."

[Mindthinkr]

They began filming the last episode of the spin-off yesterday and should have its first season wrapped by Halloween. Obviously it needs editing and other postproduction, and I’m wondering when it will come out. My thought is April like their original series did. 

[yourmomiseasy]

20 hours ago, AZChristian said:

We're just planning to see the outside of the buildings,  as well as the memorial wall outside of the LAPD Headquarters.   Pancakes at Du Pars is DEFINITELY on the agenda!

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I'm not sure that's going to be worth the parking.  It's not a glamourous part of the city and that's saying a lot, because LA is kind of a shithole in general.  Just don't go downtown with stars in your eyes because it smells like pee, you're likely going to see a lot of homelessness and general filth, and will probably be yelled at by a mentally ill person.  You might see someone shitting in the street.  Also, City Hall is kind of boring on the outside -- all the pretty details are inside.  If you haven't already called to see if the observation deck is open, maybe do that so you can at least go inside.  I would also say if you are not used to being in a big city be very careful with your belongings and do not bring expensive jewelry and handbags with you on your trip.  We've had a marked increase in violent crime including robberies at gun and knife point. 

If you're planning on taking the lightrail and subway give yourself plenty of time as it seems like the connections are timed so that you just miss them and keep alert.  I've never been a victim of violent crime on public transit (knock on wood), but I've witnessed plenty of it.  There is an almost 100% chance someone will be ranting and yelling on your train car, but usually just ignoring it is enough.  I'd say there's definitely more crazy going on on our trains than Paris, London, and Munich -- I've never been on the subway in NY.  The last time I took the light rail we had to get off and wait for a new train because there was a violent assault and there was too much blood for the train to continue to be in use -- it was targeted, not random violence.  Our trains are fairly clean and I think easy to figure out, but I think they would be more convenient if they ran more frequently and they don't go a ton of places.  I don't take our buses besides the Dash, so IDK about those.

In college I was a professor's PA and had he always had grad students coming in from all over the world and I had to take them around and get them situated.  I hated watching their expectations of LA meet reality and be smashed. 

[momo]

On 6/28/2021 at 7:58 AM, AZChristian said:

Speaking of hidden gems.  Season 6, Episode 10 (towards the beginning of the episode).  Right after Harry puts down the file of the dead girl, a guy in a plaid shirt is shown walking between the cubicles, and Vega says "Hi, Michael."

Michael Connolly.  

I'll look for it!  I thought maybe the guy in line after Bosch at the end might've been MC?

[momo]

On 10/19/2021 at 3:07 PM, yourmomiseasy said:

If you go to Du Pars get the pancakes.

with extra melted butter

[Mindthinkr]

3 hours ago, momo said:

On 10/19/2021 at 6:07 PM, yourmomiseasy said:

If you go to Du Pars get the pancakes.

with extra melted butter

Just remember the syrup goes under the pancakes a la Bosch. 

[Prevailing Wind]

It's official, according to Connolly's FB page - "Bosch: Legacy"

Do we get a new topic or just keep posting in this one?

[Bort]

Keep posting here. I’ll have the topic name changed.

[Msample]

Bosch Legacy has finished filming and is in post production:

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/official-spinoff-bosch-legacy-235600768.html

[tljgator]

First trailer is dropping everywhere...

https://tvline.com/2022/03/10/bosch-legacy-release-date-teaser-imdb-tv-video/

 

[Mindthinkr]

2 hours ago, tljgator said:

First trailer is dropping everywhere...

https://tvline.com/2022/03/10/bosch-legacy-release-date-teaser-imdb-tv-video/

 

I just saw it and came here to share it. I’m excited to see this new take on Harry as well as a grown up cop Maddie. 

[Irlandesa]

It has been renewed before the premiere.  So yay!  2 more seasons of Bosch*.

2 because we haven't seen the next season yet.

[LizBug]

Watched the first episode of the new season last night.  It definitely has a different feel to it ... not quite as slick as the Amazon Prime productions.  What I really appreciated, was the fact that the dialogue was understandable (on Amazon, it was sometimes muddled/garbled) and many of the scenes were filmed during the day so it doesn't have that dark, sometimes brooding atmosphere (at least not yet).  

But, it has Bosch, Honey, Maddie and Coltrane.  What more could you want?

[Raja]

So Amazon has rebranded IMBd TV as freevee when you search for it.

[dleighg]

can someone remind me why Bosch quit so I don't have to go back and rewatch? Something about 5 innocent victims? From the recap it seems something political went down?