2017 Tryouts and Training Camp: Candidates Included

[Java]

31 minutes ago, ATLGirl said:

So "moving on" are the final words on Erica. 

I'm hoping against hope that they will still address her cut, and not with the watered-down version of Kelli doing a talking head about her injury.  I don't care how big of a tantrum Erica threw, she signed multiple contracts and multiple waivers, and there is EVIDENCE.  Don't play if you can't pay.  Also, using 'injury' as the reason may actually do more damage to her career than being cut for breaking rules. Who wants to hire a dancer with back/neck issues that could be a liability going forward? 

I'll take that as an affirmation that this situation "Reesed" and got litigious so will never be addressed on the show. 

Excuse my rant here please, but I'll be so disappointed if Charlotte lets her get away with being a twit when she clearly was in the wrong. Charlotte has refused to approve taking girls into camp for speeding tickets occurring years prior to auditioning because that wasn't acceptable behavior. If she lets an actual DCC who knows better(!) bury her rule-breaking, risk-taking behavior committed on the job?  I'll be embarrassed for her. They are the Dallas-Freakin-Cowboys for pete's sake, and they have the sharpest shark attorney's in Texas - Use 'em! She doesn't have a leg to stand on. 

I've been rooting for Christina for a long time. But when all that you have going for you seems to be your ability to be a good team player and a great haircut...I'm not as sure as I have been.

I was rooting for her too, and she does look a bit better appearance and performance-wise than she did previous years, but she still isn't up to DCC standards. I'm surprised they haven't Loni'd her yet.

On the bright side, all the dancing in last night's episode was fantastic. It's like they saved it up all season for one episode. 

I thought the same thing, lol!  Absolutely loved all of the rehearsal's they've shown, and I love that they're actually showing the girls what they're seeing. It has to be easier for the ladies to SEE what the issues are, rather than try to interpret a description. 

I will say that the tower over the field would freak me out walking to the edge to watch the practices.  Apparently neither Kelli or Judy are afraid of heights, lol.

[bigskygirl]

I do not think they would cut a girl over injuries even if the doctors were saying no dancing until healing is completed. Brooke and Cassie both had injuries before TC and during TC, and they both were allowed to stay on the team while healing. Erica could have been sent out on appearances while healing. I also do not see a dancer with back/neck injuries as a possible liability down the road. I was working at one place where I had to do some heavy lifting at times, and I injured my back years before getting hired. I did end up reinjuring my back and neck and had to quit because I could not handle the job anymore due to lifting requirements.  My former employer was willing to hire me back, but my physical therapist and the specialist worker's comp sent me to said no way. My husband's employer did  not see his kidney transplant a liability when he went back to work eight weeks after he got a new kidney. He has to be careful and makes sure he follows his doctors' advice and orders, and he has missed less days due to illness than most of the people he works with.

Edited October 14, 2017 by bigskygirl

[NMDD43]

34 minutes ago, Java said:

1 hour ago, ATLGirl said:

So "moving on" are the final words on Erica. 

I'm hoping against hope that they will still address her cut, and not with the watered-down version of Kelli doing a talking head about her injury.  I don't care how big of a tantrum Erica threw, she signed multiple contracts and multiple waivers, and there is EVIDENCE.  Don't play if you can't pay.  Also, using 'injury' as the reason may actually do more damage to her career than being cut for breaking rules. Who wants to hire a dancer with back/neck issues that could be a liability going forward? 

I'll take that as an affirmation that this situation "Reesed" and got litigious so will never be addressed on the show. 

Excuse my rant here please, but I'll be so disappointed if Charlotte lets her get away with being a twit when she clearly was in the wrong. Charlotte has refused to approve taking girls into camp for speeding tickets occurring years prior to auditioning because that wasn't acceptable behavior. If she lets an actual DCC who knows better(!) bury her rule-breaking, risk-taking behavior committed on the job?  I'll be embarrassed for her. They are the Dallas-Freakin-Cowboys for pete's sake, and they have the sharpest shark attorney's in Texas - Use 'em! She doesn't have a leg to stand on. 

 

I am having a hard time understanding the legal aspect of this too. What power can Erica possibly have over the organization and CMT to have them not air her cut, or even mention it? Like you said, they sign all kinds of releases and paperwork, so what could she possibly say to get them to ignore it? Plenty of girls have been portrayed poorly on the show and there wasn't a damn thing they could do about it. So why Erica? It's not like she just lucked out and CMT decided not to show it. Her kind of drama is what reality tv execs drool over. Then on social media she pushes this bible-scripture-goody-goody stuff.... something just isn't adding up. I understand that Kelli (being an executive producer on the show according to peeps on here) would not want all the drama shown because it makes them look bad, but not addressing it all all, in my opinion, makes them look worse and causes a lot of speculation, rumors, and negative attention that otherwise may not have happened.

[RazzleberryPie]

9 minutes ago, NMDD43 said:

I am having a hard time understanding the legal aspect of this too. What power can Erica possibly have over the organization and CMT to have them not air her cut, or even mention it? Like you said, they sign all kinds of releases and paperwork, so what could she possibly say to get them to ignore it? Plenty of girls have been portrayed poorly on the show and there wasn't a damn thing they could do about it. So why Erica? It's not like she just lucked out and CMT decided not to show it. Her kind of drama is what reality tv execs drool over. Then on social media she pushes this bible-scripture-goody-goody stuff.... something just isn't adding up. I understand that Kelli (being an executive producer on the show according to peeps on here) would not want all the drama shown because it makes them look bad, but not addressing it all all, in my opinion, makes them look worse and causes a lot of speculation, rumors, and negative attention that otherwise may not have happened.

Erica has no grounds for litigation/power over them.

I took @ShellyB's 'moving on' simply as they don't want to talk about it, so they're not. DCC/CMT don't owe us anything in regards to what story arcs they choose.

We got plenty of drama with Holly and Jenna. Maybe icing Erica out is the final gift to her, or the final insult. 

[sleepyjean]

9 hours ago, HowdeeDo said:

I don’t think keeping her when it’s obvious she’s not strong enough sends any message. I’m sure they’ll portray it like that, but we’ve already seen otherwise in pics and videos of the game.

Yes, but isn't that position based on the assumption that most fans are searching online for those pics and videos of the games? And then scrutinizing them when they see them? Most viewers of this show aren't super fans. They aren't on this forum or following all of the DCC on social media year round. When they see the occasional photo, they may notice if someone has gained weight or their hair looks different, but they're not studying the photos and noticing when a line is a little off or someone is slightly out of sync. CMT can show someone like Christina struggling all through training camp, and then see her make the team and have warm fuzzies that she's such a nice girl and look how her hard work is rewarded. It's a totally believable story if you are looking elsewhere to see the contradictions.

8 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

I don't know if Christina is a good or bad dancer.  But I think they kept her because she brings some maturity to the group.  And she works to improve herself on every negative comment given on her performance or lack thereof.   And she seems to know it isn't all about her.  

I agree with this. You need some stable, reliable, low key, hard working girls, who go with the program, follow instructions, and set a good example. They aren't the showiest, or the most attention-grabbing, but they are the glue that makes the team work. If 3 girls are in the front triangle, that means 33 aren't. If two girls are in the ads for the show, 34 aren't. Someone - a lot of someones - are always going to be in the back row.  You need those back row girls. It's never going to be 36 Hollys or 36 Jennas, nor would I want to see that.

7 hours ago, HowdeeDo said:

I wish 36 wasn’t some magic number they HAVE to have. I get formations, budget, groups etc, but more often than not there’s been 37-39, and then 34 that one year. Even though they lost some vets, doesn’t mean take in mediocre rookies to make 36. Savannah and Christina are blah. 

I think you just disproved your own point though. It isn't a number they have to have, right?  Because as you pointed out, they often don't have 36. Nobody forced them to have Christina or Savannah on the team.

3 hours ago, ATLGirl said:

So "moving on" are the final words on Erica. 

I'll take that as an affirmation that this situation "Reesed" and got litigious so will never be addressed on the show.

...or Shelly is just respecting Erica's privacy and perhaps her own nondisclosure agreement. Whether Erica was cut or left voluntarily, isn't Shelly's business to tell.

I know a lot of people (I'm not talking about you specifically) feel like because this is a reality show, the fans are "owed" an explanation of everything they don't understand, but that's not the case. I think they owe us a good story. But I don't think that just because a business gives the public a 13-hour peek behind the curtain, that every decision they make has to be transparent to the viewers. At the end of the day, this is a private business and these women's private lives.

2 hours ago, kerrieway said:

I think she's got a bright future, fighters always do.

Erica 1 MTT 0

Maybe I'm being dense, but what kind of fighting did she do? I admit I haven't seen the last two episodes. Did I miss something significant?

1 hour ago, NMDD43 said:

I am having a hard time understanding the legal aspect of this too. What power can Erica possibly have over the organization and CMT to have them not air her cut, or even mention it? Like you said, they sign all kinds of releases and paperwork, so what could she possibly say to get them to ignore it? Plenty of girls have been portrayed poorly on the show and there wasn't a damn thing they could do about it.

I don't think that the fact that is isn't shown is necessarily proof of coercion/litigation/blackmail/insert other shadowy conspiracy theory. It's totally possible they simply chose not to show it and that they may have chosen not to show when whats-her-name got released after the calendar shoot in the earlier seasons. Not every story can or will be told. It's not in their best interest to tell every story. Part of promoting this team's brand is to show that this is hard work and it isn't all butterflies and rainbows, but they also want this to be seen as an admirable, aspirational, amazing, unique experience. You show too much drama, and it just starts to look like a big old mess, and then that's what people focus on - who slept with who, who got fired, who broke the rules, as opposed to "look how hard these women work, and aren't they amazing?"

Edited October 14, 2017 by sleepyjean

[kerrieway]

6 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

Maybe I'm being dense, but what kind of fighting did she do? I admit I haven't seen the last two episodes. Did I miss something significant?

It's not shown on the show, from what I've gathered from the board it's suggested Erica threatened to sue if she was shown being fired for allegedly drinking at the HOF event and so she's been edited out of the season.  

[Moxiejan]

7 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

I don't think that the fact that is isn't shown is necessarily proof of coercion. It's totally possible they simply chose not to show it and that they may have chosen not to show when whats-her-name got released after the calendar shoot in the earlier seasons. Part of promoting this team's brand is to show that this is hard work and it isn't all butterflies and rainbows, but they also want this to be seen as an admirable, aspirational experience. You show too much drama, and it just starts to look like a big old mess, and then that's what people focus on - who slept with who, who got fired, who broke the rules, as opposed to "look how hard these women work, and aren't they amazing?"

 

Agree; it's entirely possible that initially, Erica's struggles with injury WERE a part of this season's story line (remember that the closed captioning did have her announced as GL), but then the Jenna/Holly "big old mess" came along and the CMT producers decided to make more time for that by editing out Erica. We'll just have to wait & see how this all plays out in the final episodes.

[raindancer]

13 hours ago, ShellyB said:

It is was you’re thinking!

OMG if this happens I will straight up hitchhike to Texas if I have to ?

[NMDD43]

13 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

I don't think that the fact that is isn't shown is necessarily proof of coercion/litigation/blackmail/insert other shadowy conspiracy theory. It's totally possible they simply chose not to show it and that they may have chosen not to show when whats-her-name got released after the calendar shoot in the earlier seasons. Not every story can or will be told. Part of promoting this team's brand is to show that this is hard work and it isn't all butterflies and rainbows, but they also want this to be seen as an admirable, aspirational experience. You show too much drama, and it just starts to look like a big old mess, and then that's what people focus on - who slept with who, who got fired, who broke the rules, as opposed to "look how hard these women work, and aren't they amazing?"

Very true. No one wants to purposely make themselves look bad by airing out too much of their dirty laundry. But it is *kind of* annoying that we get to see Holly and Jenna dragged through the mud and not Erica. I think their drama was far more scandalous than Erica supposedly drinking on the job, so if they did pick and choose who/what to show, maybe they should have shown Erica instead. It may have been the lesser of 2 evils. But, on the other hand, MTT couldn't have played the "importance of leadership" storyline the way they did without showing Holly's shenanigans, thus making Jenna a bad leader.

If Erica were a more no-name vet (like Tess/Bess, Chantal, Jessika) instead of a popular fan favorite, it would make more sense to have her just disappear (I honestly would not notice if any of those 4 were cut, even now). Some people may still question it, but probably not most. I think that is what annoys people. She is a favorite and they want to know what happened to her.  I don't think they "owe" us anything and I certainly do not expect to be shown every little thing that goes on, but they do have a responsibility as tv show producers to tell a story that makes sense.

I will be happy is they just acknowledge it. No need to go into details, just a simple talking head about how they went from 38 to 36.

[NMDD43]

Anyone else starting to wonder if that office visit with Jenna early in the season about her stepping up as a leader was filmed later? Call me a skeptic, but that was some convenient foreshadowing for what went down later in the summer….

[WaterSpirit]

Just to add, from "going out" pics in Instagram,  seems like Erica, Jenna and Holly put off vibe of "look at how sexy I am/We are!" instead of look at me with my good friends having fun, cuteness incidental, Shame really, but I can see how attention by fans etc..can change some people, not all for the better.

But, of greater importance! ( I kid) I am scrutinizing the kick line during performance in Canton. I appears that someone is not in line (almost a foot back), and almost looks "boxed out" for a second, it is just before Jinelle talks about having goosebumps.  I don't know how it looked straight on, but from the side, it was noticeable.

did anyone else see this?

[KickPretty]

6 minutes ago, NMDD43 said:

Anyone else starting to wonder if that office visit with Jenna early in the season about her stepping up as a leader was filmed later? Call me a skeptic, but that was some convenient foreshadowing for what went down later in the summer….

OMG!  Totally.  I said earlier that the office visit Jenna had about not going to Canton was refilmed.  

[VintageJ]

31 minutes ago, raindancer said:

OMG if this happens I will straight up hitchhike to Texas if I have to ?

I'll pick you up on my way down. Hell, I'll rent a bus. Who wants to go?

[VintageJ]

I think they may still show the Erica stuff. What, two more episodes?  It's possible. They just got back from HOF. they may get word of her offense this week (the week they got back).  Production focused on the Holly/Jenna drama. One problem at a time. So now maybe next episode they will focus on Erica.

[CaseyRe]

2 hours ago, MrsEVH said:

I think Jenna is done after this year.  Maybe we'll see her auditioning for other teams next year.

TBH if se doesn't leave of her own accord, any scrap of respect I might have for her will disappear in the wind.  The number of times she's said 'DCC is my whole life' or words to that effect...girl needs to get a real life. her entire adult life has been DCC, she literally seems to have little/nothing else in her life. she strikes me as the kind that would neverleave until booted because it literally IS her whole life. she's got no idea who she is bar the identity of the uniform.  she needs to grow up, needs to mature, needs to learn who Jenna is, needs to not be a DCC and figuere out what she's gonna do with her life, because she comes across as someone that if you asked her to describe herself, first thing would be that she's a DCC. it seems to be basically 100% of her identity and that is hella unhealthy.

[raindancer]

1 hour ago, VintageJ said:

I'll pick you up on my way down. Hell, I'll rent a bus. Who wants to go?

I'd say I'd bring snacks, but I don't think I could take the sadness of seeing Jay throwing them all out, and I'm already struggling with the size of my saddle.  I'm a cheerful driving buddy though, and I love road trips!

[SimplePleasures]

I believe there is a mathematical reason for having 36 dancers on the team.  Thirty six allows for the most symmetrical formations on the field.  For example:  The numbers one through eight when added together totals 36.  That forms the perfect team triangle.  When the girls are split into 4 groups of nine, a perfect outside diamond can be made with nine dancers ( 8 for the sides and one in the center).  You can also make a perfect diamond using the entire team ( 1+ 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 5 + 4 +3 + 2 + 1 = 36)  Also, you can make a semi-triangle (parallelogram) with three rows (2 + 3 + 4 = 9).  If the girls are split into a routine of six groups of six girls a perfect mini-triangle (1 + 2 + 3 = 6) can be made.  You can make a medium triangle with 15 girls (add numbers 1 through 5 = 15).  You can make two medium triangles and one mini triangle with a team of 36 girls.   Myriad formations can be made using the groups of six dancer mini triangles and groups of the nine dancer diamonds.  See crude drawing.

I remember one season when they didn't have 36 girls and Kelly asked Judy if she could make it work and she said yes she could.  I suspect the All Stars filled the vacant spots to work the magic of 36.

Edited October 14, 2017 by SimplePleasures

[SimplePleasures]

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[ElenaFR]

8 hours ago, NMDD43 said:

Anyone else starting to wonder if that office visit with Jenna early in the season about her stepping up as a leader was filmed later? Call me a skeptic, but that was some convenient foreshadowing for what went down later in the summer….

Reality tv is always manipulated in some fashion so I wouldn't doubt this as a possibility.

[Smplsimon]

I'm ready for this season to be over.  It's the worst one yet and based on the composition of the current squad, I fear the next few years are going to be pretty bad.  Here's hoping they get some truly talented rookies next year.  

[Mabinogia]

If I'm getting this right, Erica's issues were during the HOF trip, which just happened, so there is no reason they would have discussed it yet. They are trying to tell the story in order, then next ep would have K&J finding out via social media and confronting Erica. It is odd that they have made her disappear for most of the season, though, if she wasn't dancing, what would they be showing her do? If she's not going to be on the team anymore there's no point in focusing on her. 

They probably chose to focus on the Hollie/Jenna issues instead because Jenna is still on the team and her story was linked with Hollie's so they had to show that too. I will say, for a casual viewer like me, I have no idea who this Erica girl is, nor do I care. She sounds like a self involved moron so I am not sorry to see her go (or not see her go if they decide to just not show it lol). Honestly, I don't care since she's not on the team anymore, so I'm glad they chose the Jenna scandal instead. Since it was interesting to see how differently she and Hollie dealt with it. Hollie doesn't care about DCC, she just wants to be famous so she had no problem walking away. Jenna, OTOH, lives for DCC and is willing to take her beating, but also just wants it to be over and keeps making things worse. 

Erica's story sounds like too much of a rehash of Hollie. Did something she wasn't supposed to, got caught because she clearly doesn't realize how social media actually works and left. 

[Rosiemac]

5 hours ago, SimplePleasures said:

I believe there is a mathematical reason for having 36 dancers on the team.  Thirty six allows for the most symmetrical formations on the field.  For example:  The numbers one through eight when added together totals 36.  That forms the perfect team triangle.  When the girls are split into 4 groups of nine, a perfect outside diamond can be made with nine dancers ( 8 for the sides and one in the center).  You can also make a perfect diamond using the entire team ( 1+ 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 5 + 4 +3 + 2 + 1 = 36)  Also, you can make a semi-triangle (parallelogram) with three rows (2 + 3 + 4 = 9).  If the girls are split into a routine of six groups of six girls a perfect mini-triangle (1 + 2 + 3 = 6) can be made.  You can make a medium triangle with 15 girls (add numbers 1 through 5 = 15).  You can make two medium triangles and one mini triangle with a team of 36 girls.   Myriad formations can be made using the groups of six dancer mini triangles and groups of the nine dancer diamonds.  See crude drawing.

I remember one season when they didn't have 36 girls and Kelly asked Judy if she could make it work and she said yes she could.  I suspect the All Stars filled the vacant spots to work the magic of 36.

Thank you for this....I was never a cheerleader so i find it interesting to see how the math plays out. 

[UnicornKicks]

With 34 they took two from back row to make a heart instead of triangle. Judy made it work.

[RhiRhi]

I’m sure they just like 36 because it divides by 4 for even groups, otherwise they’d need 32. 

[ByTor]

On 10/12/2017 at 2:31 PM, CaseyRe said:

On 10/12/2017 at 2:26 PM, klh25 said:

She was good enough, kicks really can improve.  I hope the girl from LSU that had the long black hair comes back, she should have been in TC over at least 3-4 other people that were chosen.  Doesn't make sense to me.

Couldnt agree more! Yes, her 'look' wasn't right, but her dance was great and hair can be dyed, it can be cut. isnt that the point of the hairdresser on the judging panel? to say 'i can fix that?'

Which is exactly what he DID say.  I really think she should have been given a chance, but obviously Kelli & Judy don't consult with me first :)

I have an opinion on why I don't think anything negative about Erica will be shown.  I agree with the posters who think the Jenna/Holly drama was shown because Jenna is still on the team & they wanted to do the whole leadership storyline.  If, however, they go on to show the Erica mess, now that's three veterans who were stepping out of line.  That, IMO, makes one wonder whether Kelli has any control at all over the squad, plus it questions the whole "America's Sweethearts" image.  As has been said, they are willing to portray something that could make the girls look bad, but they will do anything the can to not make the organization look bad.

[dreamcatcher]

5 hours ago, Smplsimon said:

I'm ready for this season to be over.  It's the worst one yet and based on the composition of the current squad, I fear the next few years are going to be pretty bad.  Here's hoping they get some truly talented rookies next year.  

Honestly? I don't think it's so much the new format that we are tired of, it's the girls. They've given us pretty much everything we asked for: more dancing, more veterans, new segments etc. I just think that we would have loved this format with the past squads and rookies.

[PrincessLeia]

20 hours ago, Moxiejan said:

They obviously have back-edited to diminish her, but she still was shown in the background several times. And Kelli has repeatedly kept the audience aware of the "number count." Clearly, it has been decided to play up Jenna/Holly & play down Erica. But Kelli simply can't make one cut and then announce that the 38 have become 36. The departure of one more has to be addressed in some way, even if with only a 10-second announcement.

 I was told Erica has taken steps to make sure her drinking beer at a game were not shown on CMT. They had other issues with her being a shitty GL as well. It's just not going to be shown. Maybe Kelli comes out at the end and say she left due to injury, I don't know. But her bad behavior isn't going to be shown.

[NMDD43]

30 minutes ago, PrincessLeia said:

 I was told Erica has taken steps to make sure her drinking beer at a game were not shown on CMT. They had other issues with her being a shitty GL as well. It's just not going to be shown. Maybe Kelli comes out at the end and say she left due to injury, I don't know. But her bad behavior isn't going to be shown.

I am dying to know what steps she took to prevent any of it from being shown. What is this power and control she has over the producers that no other girl seems to have?

[Moxiejan]

57 minutes ago, PrincessLeia said:

 I was told Erica has taken steps to make sure her drinking beer at a game were not shown on CMT. They had other issues with her being a shitty GL as well. It's just not going to be shown. Maybe Kelli comes out at the end and say she left due to injury, I don't know. But her bad behavior isn't going to be shown.

I didn't say that her bad behavior (or injury or anything else) would be addressed; only that her departure would be. It can be as simple as "veteran Erica will not be on this year's team after all."

[Dccfanwithaloha]

If you're reading the boards (team), who I really hope comes back next year:  Amy, Cersten, Bess, Heather, KaShara, Khalyn, Lacey, Madeline, Maggie, Robyn, Simone, Yuko, Tara, Lexie, Keyra, Savannah, Rachel, Molly, Kalyssa, Gina. Would love to see KaShara, Lacey, Heather and Bess as GLs and Amy, Cersten, Simone and Khalyn as seconds. Finally, dream Show Group: Amy, Cersten, Bess, Heather, KaShara, Khalyn, Lacey, Robyn, Simone, Yuko, Lexie, Savannah, Kalyssa, plus 3 new outstanding rookies TBD! :)

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[Hummingbird24]

18 hours ago, VintageJ said:

I'll pick you up on my way down. Hell, I'll rent a bus. Who wants to go?

I'm here. I'll offer a place to stay. 

[Katherine1904]

How many years are we thinking Kelli and Judy have left before retirement? 

[misssue]

24 minutes ago, Katherine1904 said:

How many years are we thinking Kelli and Judy have left before retirement? 

And who takes over for them.

[UnicornKicks]

7 minutes ago, misssue said:

And who takes over for them.

Kelli 10-15

Judy 5-10

[ElenaFR]

The former DCC Michelle K could take over for Judy. She seems tough and is good. Seems to love the brand. 

Kelli? She could be there for a long time. I can't pick anyone until I know personal skills such as  organization, delegation, business sense, etc. 

[tajalexander]

2 hours ago, misssue said:

And who takes over for them.

Something tells me Jenn K will be involved. Mmm.. 

6 minutes ago, ElenaFR said:

The former DCC Michelle K could take over for Judy. She seems tough and is good. Seems to love the brand. 

Her choreography is hit or miss for me. I would want someone who pays very close attention to detail to take over for Judy. And I don’t readily know a DCC that is THAT precise and nitpicky with movement. 

 

(I forget her name but I loved her) the retired DCC with dark/black hair that came in with the retired vets to critic the girls. She was always paying attention to those details. Then maybe have an Emma or Nicole Bulcher for showmanship, and A Jackie Bob-type as Kelli?

Edited October 15, 2017 by tajalexander

[RazzleberryPie]

I think when K&J do retire, they'll replace Judy with a former DCC, but Kelli's job is more about business sense than dancing. Somebody with a good business regimen will be tapped. I don't think either of them are going anywhere for at least a decade though.

[sleepyjean]

4 hours ago, NMDD43 said:

I am dying to know what steps she took to prevent any of it from being shown. What is this power and control she has over the producers that no other girl seems to have?

That theory holds no water for me. There were 29 days between the HOF game and the airing of the episode where group leaders were announced. In order to buy this whole theory, I'd have to also buy the following:

• I'd have to believe the DCC contract does not include an arbitration clause that precludes the cheerleaders from suing the cowboys organization. And that the production company has been doing this show for over a decade and doesn't also have air-tight realty show contract. We know Erica signed a document agreeing that she might be shown in a negative, or even false light. 
• I'd have to believe that in less than a month, Erica hired an attorney and that she has the means to hire someone who could be considered any kind of match for the Dallas Cowboys' legal team.
• I'd have to believe that Erica's representation was able to convince CMT and the production company to cave in and voluntarily edit out a potentially juicy story line. This would've had to have happened well before the air date on 8/31. They would've had to move fast. Very fast, if you consider that they didn't release her the day after the game. It would've taken a few days to return to Dallas, hear the story, see the video, consult with Charlotte and perhaps their legal team, then call Erica in and give her the boot.
• I'd have to believe that Erica's representation was able to convince both Kelli and Charlotte to roll over. Do you see that ever happening? I don't. Like any big, well-known, mega rich organization, the Cowboys probably have lawsuits threatened against them all the time. And if Erica made an empty threat without legal counsel, they would've laughed and had security march her little behind out of there. This isn't the first time they've had to deal with a pissed-off ex-cheerleader and it won't be the last. Mark my words, this organization has covered it's butt, six ways from Sunday. Especially after the slew of pro cheerleader lawsuits in recent years.
• OR I'd have to believe that Erica's representation was able to convince a judge that airing the discussion of her termination would be defamatory and/or damaging enough to her current or future prospects to compel CMT/production to incur the additional expense to change/re-edit the show. What could the grounds possibly be? Especially given that they hadn't even seen the episode? Does Erica currently have a career or any significant career prospects outside of the DCC that would be damaged by revelation of the facts? After all, she was engaging in a perfectly legal activity. Listen, I don't know much about the legal profession, but I have a hard time believing that a judge would grant any sort of legal action based on nothing more than a cheerleader not wanting her story aired. Especially after she essentially "aired" it herself!

If the "facts" as we know them are true (and I still have questions about all of that), Erica has not a leg to stand on. And in fact, if she had initiated litigation, or threatened to do so, surely her representation would have told that it was a gamble. They must have told her that she was potentially drawing a lot MORE attention to a situation that she was trying to cover up. She was also risking that the public wouldn't be swayed in her favor that people would see her as an entitled little snowflake rah rah girl who was mad because she broke the rules and got fired and is not only unwilling to accept responsibility for her actions, but trying to instigate a shady coverup. For once, the shadiness wouldn't be on the Cowboys side of things. I know in today's America it seems like lawyers can always screw up a situation. I just don't think it happened in this case.

I believe that Erica just got lucky. She's very fortunate that they decided to show the Holly/Jenna story instead of her colossal eff-up.

[UnicornKicks]

OMG ERICA 'THREATENED' FOR LIKE A WHOLE SECOND TO SUE. That's it. No grounds whatsoever and did not pursue it.

It just didn't fit the story arc for MTT.

[missmansfield]

I think I asked this a long time ago but does anyone notice how Kelli's mouth moves to the side when she talks?  I wonder why she does that. Strange.

[nmvrn]

3 minutes ago, UnicornKicks said:

OMG ERICA 'THREATENED' FOR LIKE A WHOLE SECOND TO SUE. That's it. No grounds whatsoever and did not pursue it.

It just didn't fit the story arc for MTT.

That's what I thought. Erica posted the video herself. Does the show mention at all that Erica left?

[sleepyjean]

1 hour ago, missmansfield said:

I think I asked this a long time ago but does anyone notice how Kelli's mouth moves to the side when she talks?  I wonder why she does that. Strange.

That's just the way her mouth works. It isn't an affectation.

[CaseyRe]

6 minutes ago, missmansfield said:

I think I asked this a long time ago but does anyone notice how Kelli's mouth moves to the side when she talks?  I wonder why she does that. Strange.

either something she's always done, habit, botox, or fillers, some other form of plastic surgery

[RazzleberryPie]

I think that's just Kelli's expression.

[missmansfield]

I have a feeling if one of the girls was making expressions like that Kelli would call it out.

[Blndee6]

3 hours ago, tajalexander said:

(I forget her name but I loved her) the retired DCC with dark/black hair that came in with the retired vets to critic the girls. She was always paying attention to those details.

Ashton Torres? I loved her too.

[DCC.Style.fan]

I am curious about something. Who could Erica know that would be in the stands in Canton, Ohio for her to go sit with and have a beer?  Or did she go in the stands by herself. None of this Erica story makes sense to me.

[Tdoc72]

4 minutes ago, DCCroutineFAN said:

I am curious about something. Who could Erica know that would be in the stands in Canton, Ohio for her to go sit with and have a beer?  Or did she go in the stands by herself. None of this Erica story makes sense to me.

Kashera said some of her family was there so it's not outside the realm of possibilities that Erica had friends there. 

[sleepyjean]

If Erica didn't really threaten to sue, how much of the rest of the story is really true, I wonder?

smh.

[LisaWl7TR]

Thinking and wondering....with the friendships of the 3 which 2 got cut.

Does anyone think it could have been a dare---The Erica incident?