S06.E08: Chapter 8

[Arynm]

Maybe Lee killed her husband and someone else got him up there. The nurses killed Rory but the Polks hung him up right?

[Anela]

6 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

Each time I think I know how the show is going it surprises me.  I didn't think AHS could do that,. Good job Ryan Murphy. 

I am not sure Lee actually killed Mason or just said she did because she thought she was going to die but for now the storyline makes sense either way do it doesn't matter.  I was surprised at not Dhelby and Dominick's quick demise I had them both pegged as contenders for survival.  I thought the funniest line was by Shelby when Dominick was trying to cheat her up and she said he was a good actor.  I thought that was funny.

This whole episode reminded me a lot of the Saw franchise which I didn't originally watch.  Torture porn not being my thing but I caught on Netflix when they streamed for awhile.  Same concept running from one horror to another with no real way out.

It kept reminding me of Hostel, which I hated. They played all of them on IFC, a few years ago, and I couldn't believe what I was watching. Some of the grossest stuff I've ever seen. I had to keep looking away last night, and although it really is horrific - what they're looking for, to scare people - it takes me out of the story, because I can't stomach it. I like to be spooked, but that's it. 

[goodbyeglittergirl]

I wish I hadn't deleted the episode after I watched it, b/c I had no idea that was Finn. That is crazy!

I feel that now that Lee's confessed to murder (though seriously, how did she do that?) she won't be the one to survive. But I applaud Lee's moxie this episode! 

I would really love to see the psychic Leslie Jordan guy and Denis O'Hare return in some capacity. I love them so much. 

Kathy Bates, you were missed in this episode. I love you so much I considered seeing Bad Santa 2 before I came to my senses.

[JennyMominFL]

5 hours ago, tennisgurl said:

Why oh WHY would they cover up the hotness of Finn with all that ugly makeup? Ryan Murphy, you got issues dude. 

But, looking past that travesty, this was a super intense episode, and I am actually on board with this season again. The middle was shaky, but I am enjoying the last few episodes and how we are getting towards the end. Now, can they stick the landing? 

I will say, I am really confused by Lee`s confession. Was that for real? Why would she lie? But how the hell did she do it? Lee is a strong lady, but strong enough to light a fully grown man on fire, then pulling him into a tree and sticking him up there? Thats pretty damn intense, especially considering the guys only crime was trying to keep his kid for justifiable reasons. 

The ghosts are so creepy now, its much appreciated. They all look so inhuman now. I thought being killed and stuck in murder house forever sucked, but at least those ghosts pretty much looked like they did when they were alive, and acted pretty normal. These spirits are like monsters. No way would I die there!

Hey, they have TV! They're sophisticated people! 

 

I bet they already mailed their absentee ballots for Trump

[Blakeston]

The writers had Lee point out that North Carolina has the death penalty. Maybe the season will end with the revelation that the lone survivor, ie Lee, is on death row after the videos were discovered?

[ReclinerTurnip]

I think what took me most out of the premise of the show within the show (I know, beyond almost everything!) was the scenes where Shelby and Dominic. They are going between different floors of the house and they cut between found footage shots from the cell phones and wider "production installed camera" shots - in these, you can tell Dominic has no cell phone in either hand. This bugged me worse than the major issue that you would totally drop caring whether or not you were filming all this crazy crap via cell phone, and, I don't know, doing your best to survive maybe?? Along with the strange filming of Lee by some unknown source that seemed hand held and hid behind jars and stuff and will likely never be explained away, it was a really odd approach to try and maintain the found footage nature. I feel you either have to fully commit to it and all its rules or not use it. You also have to be more willing than RM to forego full graphic visuals for creative partial shots and odd angles or audio-only aspects making it more "believable". Or if not believable, than at least willing to play along with the jerky shots.

[Empress1]

I love thrillers and don't like gore. I'll go see a psychological thriller in a second, but straight torture porn like the Saw franchise and Hostel gets a hard pass from me. So this episode was gross and I did not like it at all. I was also confused about who was filming the Polks.

And why would the show expect me to believe that Audrey and Lee could fall asleep in that house when everything was trying to kill them?

[califred]

I thought Dominic put on that necklace that was a camera.  That's where his footage was from.

[Last Time Lord]

8 hours ago, iMonrey said:

That's what Lee was calling him but he's listed as "Cain Polk" in IMDB.com for some reason.

Really?  Pretty sure closed captions called him Jether, which is why I called him that.

On a related note, while Dom was getting hacked to bits by Pig Man, and you could hear it inside the room with Lee and Audrey, the captions called him the Piggy Man, which just makes him sound so adorable. 

[Captanne]

The closed captions did call him Jether and so did "Mama" at one point.  He and she were standing over Lee, Mama vaguely hugs Jether and calls him by name.  I thought it was interesting because to me it sounded like Jethro but the captioning said Jether.  (I'm half deaf so it helps me to rely on both the audio and the captioning.)

[luna1122]

Wikipedia says "Jether" as well. Don't know where Cain came from on IMDB. Weird. I'm surprised Finn even came back for this role. With the incesty facial disfigurements and the weird camera work, he literally could have been anyone.

[buttercupia]

I did not like this ep. Too gross.  Cannibalism, teeth pulling, I spent more time looking away than looking at the screen.  Ugh.  

[SpaghettiTuesdays]

On 11/2/2016 at 11:03 PM, Pixel said:

I'm still convinced Lee is the survivor. But now I'm not so sure they were telling the truth when they said only one survives. 

This has me wondering if only one survives, but if that means only Lee survives in the sense that fake Lee and real Lee both survive. One person, but also two. Tricky way to circumvent speculation?

[llewis823]

19 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

Also between their creed and what Jethro said about one of his older brothers 'gets Mama's bed' while the younger still got to suckle with him (Jethro) stuck in the middle getting nothing, they pretty much confirmed they all breed with Mama and not with outsiders so that is a REALLY foul gene pool.

There was one scene where Mama Polk, ran her hand up Jether's leg toward his "privates" as he put it. So this didn't surprise me. And this makes the Polk boys inbred looks more understandable - no forks in their family tree...just eeeweee

[TexasGal]

20 hours ago, candall said:

 

Hello, Chens.  I thought it was interesting that the Chens wanted to assimilate, but their ghosts defaulted to classic Asian horror movie behavior--skittering along the walls and ceilings with impossibly-angled scary blank faces.  We're no longer all that crazy about the US.

Ok, thanks for that!  I could not figure out how the Ring (the Grudge?) girl had any place in the menagerie.  I mean, still doesn't make a ton of sense but at least there is a reason.

[Mattipoo]

This episode was scary great, and paid homage to some of my favorite horror movies including "Texas Chainsaw massacre", "The hills have eyes" and the episode of X-Files with the inbred hillbilly family.

I loved that all the real ghosts were faceless and gritty and added to the scariness of the whole endeavor.

Finn Wittrock's appearance was all too short. We didn't even get a good glimpse of his pretty face.

I hope real Lee gets to reunite with Flora again at the end of the season even if it means she has to go to jail for killing her husband.

Like many others, I couldn't watch the teeth-pulling scenes. Glad Audrey smashed Mama Polk's head to pieces for pulling out one of her precious teeth.

I hope there is a final twist before the season ends.

[Chaos Theory]

Well I have concluded that AHS runs on two on two off seasons,. I adored Murder House and Asylum and hated Coven and Freak Show but then loved Hotel and I am really enjoying Roanoke Nightmare.  So....unless my streak ends i am in for two long seasons,

Anyway I loved everything about this episode.  The brutality was on mark for the show.  I thought it worked in an extremely creepy way.  I love the idea that everyone's reason for actually agreeing to this is literally coming back to eat them alive...and we ain't even talking about our favorite family of canibals.

i am loving this season,

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

American Horror Story Meats The Neighbors

While the Polks' captives get tenderized, Dominic and Shelby find new horrors at Hell House.

[ThenAgain]

17 hours ago, ReclinerTurnip said:

I think what took me most out of the premise of the show within the show (I know, beyond almost everything!) was the scenes where Shelby and Dominic. They are going between different floors of the house and they cut between found footage shots from the cell phones and wider "production installed camera" shots - in these, you can tell Dominic has no cell phone in either hand.

Dominic was given a  camera disguised as a necklace.  He talks about it in one of his confessionals. The implication was that he would be able use it capture video unnoticed. 

[llewis823]

3 hours ago, Chaos Theory said:

Well I have concluded that AHS runs on two on two off seasons,. I adored Murder House and Asylum and hated Coven and Freak Show but then loved Hotel and I am really enjoying Roanoke Nightmare.  So....unless my streak ends i am in for two long seasons,

I do not agree. I liked Murder House, liked Asylum except for the cheesy breakouts of song/dance (I loathe musicals), didn't care too much for Coven, Freak Show was pretty good, hated Hotel except for Kathy Bates and Liz, and am really liking Roanoke. Just stating my opinions - not putting yours down, Chaos Theory. I have heard so many differing opinions on all the seasons that I just like hearing which ones were others' favorites.

[SimoneS]

Damn, another scary and horrifying as hell episode. I really felt for Dominic when he was yelling at the camera asking Sydney why he wasn't helping him and talking about everything that he was planning to do like go to Thailand flying first class. He had a terrible death thanks to Lee.

Lee was a badass. Yeah, I now think that she will be the only person to survive and that she will go to prison for killing Mason and probably everyone on the set. I now think that she did kill Mason.

Audrey's accent was so wonky that I had to laugh. I totally relate when Audrey spat at the mother and said that she paid good money for these teeth. I was glad that she still had some fight in her. However, I had to look away when that woman pulled out her tooth. I cheered with Lee came to the rescue, but Audrey bashing in the mother's head was brutal. 

Audrey's reaction to Shelby's death and going on about doing some of her best work with Dominic was hilarious. Self-involved to the end.

Edited November 4, 2016 by SimoneS

[In a dream]

I do believe Lee's confession that she killed Mason, but someone had to help her.  Remember when she was being interrogated by the police and she questioned the cop if he believed she could have hung up Mason alone?  I also think the twist in the story will have something to do with Emily...the little child Lee had that disappeared, prior to Flora.  Emily has only been mentioned once and I feel it is somehow part of the Mason murder, Lee, Flora, and everything else going on.  

I agree with the PP that hates Hostel and all the 'torture porn' movies.  They are terrible, awful, and horrible.  But I don't think last episode crossed the line into that territory.  If it had, I wouldn't have been able to stomach it.

Audrey is my favorite character, she cracks me up.  And I would've killed Mama Polk just like she did.  If someone tied me up, fed me pieces of someone else, and tried to kill me; you better believe I'd do them in if I could before they could come after me again.

Edited November 5, 2016 by In a dream

[Captanne]

Here, here.  Or go after someone else, for that matter.  Audrey is quite the hero.  Even before killing Calamity Jane, she gave her what fer verbally.  

[Happytobehere]

On 11/2/2016 at 11:03 PM, Pixel said:

I'm still convinced Lee is the survivor. But now I'm not so sure they were telling the truth when they said only one survives. 

I think Lee survives and just when she thinks she will get her happily ever after with Flora, her taped confession will rear its ugly head.

[Happytobehere]

On 11/2/2016 at 11:34 PM, Last Time Lord said:

Are we to believe that Lee's confession was the truth, or could she have been saying what people have already been saying as an attempt to give her daughter a form of closure?

This would make her incarceration all the more ironic.

[bosawks]

I think Lee survives but ends up a junkie.

A "happy ending" Ryan can endorse...

[FiveByFive]

6 hours ago, Happytobehere said:

This would make her incarceration all the more ironic.

Or perhaps Lee lives and the tape comes out but she doesn't go to jail.

However she is still continually treated horribly by the public. Flora won't talk to her because she's not sure what to believe and she completely loses custody of her. 

I think even if Lee does make it through this; whether she goes to jail or not is inconsequential. Either way, her future is going to suck. 

[spiderpig]

I need to find out where Sidney got those modified Smartphones that have a battery half-life of about two years.  Audrey/Lee/Fake Lee were running about from daylight to dark videoing/videoing/videoing without a recharge.

[Cowgirl]

17 hours ago, spiderpig said:

I need to find out where Sidney got those modified Smartphones that have a battery half-life of about two years.  Audrey/Lee/Fake Lee were running about from daylight to dark videoing/videoing/videoing without a recharge.

I've been marveling about that too.  I chuckled when they actually addressed it this episode by having one of the characters (Audrey, I think?) mention that they couldn't believe the phones haven't died.  

[marcee]

On 11/5/2016 at 0:22 AM, In a dream said:

I do believe Lee's confession that she killed Mason, but someone had to help her.  Remember when she was being interrogated by the police and she questioned the cop if he believed she could have hung up Mason alone?  I also think the twist in the story will have something to do with Emily...the little child Lee had that disappeared, prior to Flora.  Emily has only been mentioned once and I feel it is somehow part of the Mason murder, Lee, Flora, and everything else going on. 

Yeah, something was certainly fishy with her confession... the way she said, "It was me. ONLY me. I didn't have any help," makes me wonder why she was so adamant and specific about it. Maybe Flora was possessed and she's the one who actually did it? Lee is trying to protect her? She made it seem obvious that someone else did it or someone else helped her to do it... but I have no idea who else she'd be protecting.

[Cowgirl]

22 minutes ago, marcee said:

Yeah, something was certainly fishy with her confession... the way she said, "It was me. ONLY me. I didn't have any help," makes me wonder why she was so adamant and specific about it. Maybe Flora was possessed and she's the one who actually did it? Lee is trying to protect her? She made it seem obvious that someone else did it or someone else helped her to do it... but I have no idea who else she'd be protecting.

What about her brother Matt?  When she filmed her confession, she didn't know he was dead.  Now that he's dead and she's not, she's afraid she'll get all the blame. She doesn't need to protect him anymore. 

[marcee]

7 minutes ago, Cowgirl said:

What about her brother Matt?  When she filmed her confession, she didn't know he was dead.  Now that he's dead and she's not, she's afraid she'll get all the blame. She doesn't need to protect him anymore. 

But I'm pretty sure he had a solid alibi for when Mason went missing which was why he wasn't suspected in the first place... I could be mis-remembering, though.

[Boilergal]

DOUBLE TAP!!!  yelled at the screen when she took down Jethr and Mama - glad they listened to me this time!!! 

The whole Polk Barn thing took me out of it.  Not a fan of gore just to gore, and the teeth thing ick!!!  The acting was horrible- I would have to think it's intentional.  The mama character acting seemed to be someone Syd pulled off the street and had her read lines.   The awkward pauses in conversation - just the whole thing was really weird.  It's almost like it was a haunted house theme room that Syd set up to get more footage (explains hidden cameras).  Syd went to the Polk's and said hey we're doing this again and we're going to run them over to you - torture them a little bit, just play with them so we can get some GREAT footage - but the Polks took it to an extreme.

[ThenAgain]

5 hours ago, marcee said:

But I'm pretty sure he had a solid alibi for when Mason went missing which was why he wasn't suspected in the first place... I could be mis-remembering, though.

Not really, the re-enactment shows the Matt (Dominic) & Shelby (Audrey) watching video footage (said to be from security cameras) of someone leaving and returning supposedly 2 hours later which they id as Lee.  (I'm not sure I believe the re-enactment is a reliable source of the Miller's experiences in the house.)  It is at this point, in the re-enactment,  Cricket makes his entrance and gives his "reading" of the situation.  I also wonder if "Cricket" was a creation of reality show's production rather than an actual participant in the events which inspired the reality show.  

[qtpye]

I guess the I am the only one who is bored and annoyed with this season.  I actually think the over the top violence lessens the impact.  I have liked some of the past seasons, but I am bored to tears by this one.  I am almost thinking of deleting it from my dvr.

[DangerousMinds]

qtpye - I already did delete several eps from mine. First season I have not been able to at least sit through them all.

[rubinia]

On 11/8/2016 at 8:26 AM, qtpye said:

I guess the I am the only one who is bored and annoyed with this season.  I actually think the over the top violence lessens the impact.  I have liked some of the past seasons, but I am bored to tears by this one.  I am almost thinking of deleting it from my dvr.

The storyline isn't as ridiculous as past seasons but this season also doesn't have the wonderful aesthetic of previous storylines. Freak Show and Hotel were ultimately pretty stupid but I did love the art direction and style.

[qtpye]

37 minutes ago, rubinia said:

The storyline isn't as ridiculous as past seasons but this season also doesn't have the wonderful aesthetic of previous storylines. Freak Show and Hotel were ultimately pretty stupid but I did love the art direction and style.

Yes, it was true, the previous seasons were lacking in substance, buy were absolutely grotesquely beautiful to watch.  I also miss the great opening music sequence, which has sometimes been one of the best parts of the show.

[Captanne]

That's a wonderful observation.  In Freakshow and Hotel the sets and atmosphere were practically cast members.  In this series, I don't feel that way at all about the house, woods, or even the vague group of pilgrims.

[Bruinsfan]

On 11/3/2016 at 9:38 AM, Last Time Lord said:

Stuff being done to Teeth and eyes are the only real things that get to me.

My brother! I can watch stuff like Ash vs. Evil Dead and be entertained, but for some reason torture involving eyes and teeth short-circuits my "it's only fiction!" response.