Teen Mom OG Reunion

[gunderda]

52 minutes ago, TaxNerd said:

He should say no.  They have a court order in place.  Amber doesn't get to upend Leah's world because a different day works better for Amber.

I agree - but he was sitting there saying he would let her do it whenever she wants AND that she could even come over and work on homework with leah any night she wanted and I don't exactly think that's the case either.  

He should have said they would take it on a case by case basis instead of saying he's totally open to it.  Because I don't believe that he is. 

[Snarky McSnarky]

21 hours ago, SuzyLee said:

I've said it before and I'll say it again: These young people do not need yet another disposable pet, mental illness diagnosis, horse therapy appointment, or extravagant home purchase.  They need attainable goals, plans for what to do when the cameras go away, responsibilities, structured family time with their children, and gainful employment (for the love of God, JOBS).

Yes, Yes, and Yes.  These women and their mates need something in their lives besides MTV regularly backing up a truck and dumping yet another load of cash at their doorsteps.  All they do is spend money, often times on stuff like luxury SUVs and bling.  They need to stop pretending they're business owners with online boutiques and T-Shirt stores, and just go to work or volunteer, if only for a few hours a day.  Catelyn and Amber especially need to get off their asses and stop the whining.  A little structure will do them all a World of good.  People need a reason to get up in the morning.

Edited November 30, 2016 by Snarky McSnarky

[eskimo]

So now Simon is saying on Twitter that the fight between Amber and Farrah was set up by producers.

[poopchute]

Dr Drew must have been confused at the start of the show when he said "we have watched these girls navigate motherhood, relationships, and careers."  What??? Who has a career?

Catelyn looks like a fat clown.  Tyler doesn't want a heifer for a wife but doesn't mind a fat clown I guess. She also looks miserable, especially as she watched the clips from the season.  Sucks to watch back clips of your first year of marriage and look like it's the worst moments of your life.  Hint: get a new life then.  DO SOMETHING, anything. 

Speaking of fat clowns, Amber is the ultimate fat turd.  She looks absolutely atrocious.  What is wrong with her boobs?! They look like a butt.  Amber wants to be normal? I bet she would feel more normal if she did normal people things like, get a job, eat a real meal of food, get off the couch, get off Twitter, leave the house.  I cannot believe how upset this "grown ass woman" is about Twitter and snapchat etc, holy shit.  Get a life and priorities.  She sounds exactly like the teenagers I teach "she is mean, she says mean things, you should see what she said on snap chat."  Poor Gary still thinks having a face that looks like a lego head is a good look.  Also, do rescue dogs not pee?  

Dr. Drew looks like he is over this shit. 

[Snarky McSnarky]

26 minutes ago, eskimo said:

So now Simon is saying on Twitter that the fight between Amber and Farrah was set up by producers.

He also commented on Amber's tantrum:   "You can't quit silly rabbit, it's your only income."

[Cherry Cola]

I'm Team Gary also. I think Amber is a pretty girl, with messed up way of seeing herself. And a kind of shitty attitude.  On this reunion, her hair matches her skin color.  That is not a great look.  I did love the stuff she said about calling out Farrah.  I agree.  To many people let her walk all over them. Back to Amber, i have experienced this behavior with relatives.  You are awesome to them, they love you so much etc, when you do what they like, but if you stand up for yourself and make choices that they don't like. Well then, you are the biggest asshole that ever lived.  I see Amber treating Gary that way.  I was a little thrown off when her so called tears started rolling.  I was like, where did that come from!?

[ginger90]

I really hope Gary keeps a log of when Amber does and does not keep to her visitation.

[Snarky McSnarky]

LOL -- reading PTV comments and then reading Amber's Twitter groupies makes it seem like there are two completely different Ambers out there.

https://twitter.com/AmberLPortwood

[ginger90]

Simon's take on the reunion:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SimonSaran/status/803707290180194304?p=v

[mscav]

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I agree - but he was sitting there saying he would let her do it whenever she wants AND that she could even come over and work on homework with leah any night she wanted and I don't exactly think that's the case either.  

He should have said they would take it on a case by case basis instead of saying he's totally open to it.  Because I don't believe that he is. 

Gary is fine saying that because he knows there is no way in hell that Amber will take him up on it. Did you see the look of horror on her face when he suggested she could come help with homework? She is the same as most other deadbeats out there, whine "My ex never lets me see my kid", excuse on why I can't keep my kid on my weekend, attend a school function, little league game, etc. Amber is the female Adam Lind when it comes to parenting.

[ginger90]

Oh my 

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/803735720825229313/photo/1

[GreatKazu]

When is Amber NOT sick or depressed? Every time it comes to seeing Leah, Amber sings the same song and dance on Twitter. 

Am I seeing Gary's tweet correctly in response to Simon claiming the producers set up this fight? I see a "Sure, Jan" gif.

[toodywoody]

Good lord, Amber looks like hell. Her boobs are up to her neck. Hey Amber, obsessed with Farrah much? I mean come on. Focus on yourself and your daughter. 

[alexa]

I just saw this reunion and you are all right....Dr drew is clueless about Gary and Amber. He always seems to find a way to suggest a stupid solution to at least half the cast members. Drives me nuts. 

[TeenMomAngerMgmt]

Can Dr. Jen host the reunion specials from now on? Good grief! She'd actually ask probing/clarifying questions, at the very least. Also I am damn sick of people complaining about this porno. Who the actual hell is Amber to judge anybody about anything? She beat her baby's father on national television! 

[Marisagf]

23 hours ago, mayvenne said:

Hearty agreement with the comments from tonight- I was highly offended at Dr Drew telling Christina she needs to take the lead when Gary gets anxious or something to that effect. WHAT?????? Gary was so levelheaded and soft spoken and conciliatory. Amber is a loose cannon. at first I was enjoying her being so frank and telling Dr Drew that he should stand up to Farrah- but then Amber just went crazy about everything. About Farrah, about Gary, about everything. And Christina and Gary are being told they have to walk on eggshells to be fair?? WTF

Agree!  Loved hearing Amber take Dr. Ew to task for not calling out Farrah on her crap.  However, Gary made perfect sense and Amber was being ridiculous.  Christina is right to stay out of it even if Dr. Ew doesn't agree.  Why does she need to insert herself into the Gary and Amber's visitation arrangements?  She does not need to be a go-between.  It was nice to see Amber publicly recognize that Christina is a positive influence in her daughter's life.  But this acknowledgement shouldn't come at Gary's expense.  BOTH Gary and Christina are good parents to Leah and are doing their best to raise a lovely little girl.   Gary is stepping up where Amber can't. 

21 hours ago, Meatball said:

Amber, don't flounce if your ass can't make it through the door.

Meaning: Don't "quit" when you know you have nothing else to rely on. You'll be back faster than Maci was after her "protest."

Amber knows Gary is telling the truth so she tries to get Dr. Drew to feel sorry for her and because he is too empathetic, he goes running. Those seasons of Celebrity Rehab taught him nothing as far as manipulation goes. If Amber pretends she can't handle life, it directs attention away from the fact that she's a shitty mother.

Doesn't Amber walk out and declare herself "done with this show" at every reunion?  Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

[GreatKazu]

19 minutes ago, TeenMomAngerMgmt said:

Can Dr. Jen host the reunion specials from now on? Good grief! She'd actually ask probing/clarifying questions, at the very least. Also I am damn sick of people complaining about this porno. Who the actual hell is Amber to judge anybody about anything? She beat her baby's father on national television! 

I cannot stand Dr. Jen. She is another "doctor" who does not hold Farrah accountable. She falls for Farrah's bullshit as I watched play out on Couples Therapy. What little she has said to Farrah that does make sense, it hardly makes a dent, and Farrah quickly forgets the advice unless she uses it to her advantage and twists it like she did two episodes ago.

Edited November 30, 2016 by GreatKazu

[Court]

3 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Oh my 

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/803735720825229313/photo/1

Reading some of those comments make my head hurt. People are delusional.

I did crack up at the one saying why are you still in bed at 3pm?

[Marisagf]

15 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Tyler, you are NOT built like a 12-year-old boy. Cate, since when have you been the nurturing type? We keep hearing about how she needs to make time for herself...when HASN'T she done that? 

I love how her reasoning for not having more kids right now is that Nova is so young and she just wants to spend time with her. Bahahahahaha. No response to that. But Dr. Drew will make damn sure to pressure a mentally unstable, irresponsible, impulsive, drug abuser into having more kids "because Tyler wants a son". Oh okay, let's get right on that then. 

So yea, I was averse to theory that Cate was doing something stronger than pot, but now I'm not so sure. Dr Drew was throwing around a lot of "addiction" talk last night, but we were led to believe she only went away for help with her depression and anxiety. He kept talking about her needing to be sober - even mentioned alcohol. This seems like something pretty serious was going on, but what do I know? 

Why in the fresh hell was Matt the one to bring Nova out? KEEP HIM AWAY FROM KIDS. 

OMG!  I was thinking the same thing about the Matt / Nova hand off!  So he has to insert himself into the every aspect of this show????  Was he watching her back stage?  What the what is going on????

Can someone tell Tyler and Caitlynn to PLEASE STOP TALKING OVER EACH OTHER?   Cait is the bigger offender.  Whenever Tyler says something, she chimes in. But they are always talking at the same time.  I swear I didn't understand much of their segments because of this.

Whoever said a while back that Caitlynn has morphed into April is correct.  Every time Caitlynn spoke I could only hear April's voice and manner of speaking.  And for April to say that it was hard for her to hear about how Caitlynn felt abandoned by her dad is really rich.  How about how you abandoned Caitlynn, April?  How about the way you treated her?  You think that might have something to do with Caitlynn's "depression/anxiety/panic attacks"? 

And I'm pretty sure Carly doesn't idolize either Tyler or Caitlynn.  I get what she was saying about the little girl seeing the bridal gown and being awed by that.  But that is NOT idolatry!  She doesn't idolize these people she sees sporadically and barely knows.  STFU, Mr. and Mrs. Baltierra!!!!  I'm so over these two!

[FakeAccount]

Amber thinks she can just run to Leah every time she is feeling down same way Cate thinks she can jump on her horse and ride to the sun when she's having a "panic attack"

[lexiexx]

Catelynn is so full of shit.  She was the one that brought up having more kids twice this season and then denied it and said it was Tyler?  Tyler has either made a Jim Carey face or blew it off each time.  Wasn't it just last weeks episode where she said she wanted to be pregnant again next year?  She also said she "didn't know that" when she was talking with dawn about what exactly the adoption paperwork said and then told dr drew that she did know what it was at the time.  Then has the balls to say Carly idolizes them?  The fuck?  Carly has provably seen those two like four times total ever.   Did she actually start saying that Carly is in therapy or something?  Brandon and Theresa need to cut those two lying attention whores off once and for all.   

[Quita]

15 minutes ago, Marisagf said:

Whoever said a while back that Caitlynn has morphed into April is correct.  Every time Caitlynn spoke I could only hear April's voice and manner of speaking.  And for April to say that it was hard for her to hear about how Caitlynn felt abandoned by her dad is really rich.  How about how you abandoned Caitlynn, April?  How about the way you treated her?  You think that might have something to do with Caitlynn's "depression/anxiety/panic attacks"? 

Exactly! I'm sure whatever Catelynn's issues are have far more to do with April's poor treatment of her than her MIA dad. April probably thinks she's making up for that now since she's practically raising Nova, so her conscience is clear.

15 minutes ago, Marisagf said:

And I'm pretty sure Carly doesn't idolize either Tyler or Caitlynn.  I get what she was saying about the little girl seeing the bridal gown and being awed by that.  But that is NOT idolatry!  She doesn't idolize these people she sees sporadically and barely knows.  STFU, Mr. and Mrs. Baltierra!!!!  I'm so over these two!

I had forgotten Catelynn said that! She is so delusional. Yes, that little girl has so much to idolize about these two uneducated, unemployed, lazy layabouts.

Edited November 30, 2016 by Quita
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[eskimo]

3 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Am I seeing Gary's tweet correctly in response to Simon claiming the producers set up this fight? I see a "Sure, Jan" gif.

I was confused by that too.  I checked it out and that is not Gary's actual account.  He's staying out of it last I checked.

[AhFillAck]

22 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

Amber has no control over Gary anymore, and she cannot handle the fact he holds all the cards. He can out her at anytime, and he nearly did but not because he wanted to.it was Amber pushing the issue over and over that Gary had to point out facts. That was the trigger.

YASS!

19 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

Gary should call Amber's bluff .  "Ok bitch. What days do you want? You want her now while we're in LA? Do you and Matt want to skip the LA parties and dinners so you can parent? Want to represent at the next PTA meetings?  Take Leah for her next doc appointments ? Perhaps sit at the kitchen table and go over spelling words? Make her a real dinner? Which part do you want?"

Would I ever love to see that. What we would get, however, is at first a panicked look, and then some arm waving, followed by "I'm done! I can't! I quit! You're being so mean, Geary!" (whenever I see Geary St. in San Francisco I always think of Amber saying his name) because we know, and she knows, she doesn't want to do ANY of that.

She was also fake-crying about all she has "sacrificed for Leah." Does anyone have a clue about what she is referring to? I can't even fathom a guess.

I was shocked that after April said she stays sober by staying home, Drew hooked a thumb at Cate and Tyler and said "These two use in their home." Was that really Drew or a pod-person? I've never heard him acknowledge anything except imaginary shit.

Cate interrupted Tyler THREE times during ONE sentence he was trying to get out. She inserts her own words and phrases as he's speaking and it makes me INSANE. It makes me want to do a hearty Leah Messer-style "SHUT UP!!!!" (as she did in the car to Jeremy) right in Cate's oddly-shaped face. Leah had the perfect tone, volume and inflection on the word "up" when she shouted that, wrong as it was to do in front of the girlses. I want to yell it just like that quite often. But I don't. Even if ah fill ack it! *snort*

I laughed at how the segment went on, Cate squashed down into the couch more, resembling Jabba the Hutt in quicksand. I'm not sure what was happening but it amused me.

Edited November 30, 2016 by AhFillAck
I perioded when I should have commad.

[Willowsmom]

Amber claims she went to prison for Leah.

Dr . Drew  was right  to ride Cate about both the pot and the alcohol . She was just in rehab and was ignoring her after care. Being an addictive personality  explains her size, she is also  addicted to food.

She should never drink or do any drugs not carefully monitered  by a doctor.

[GreatKazu]

2 hours ago, AhFillAck said:

YASS!

Would I ever love to see that. What we would get, however, is at first a panicked look, and then some arm waving, followed by "I'm done! I can't! I quit! You're being so mean, Geary!" (whenever I see Geary St. in San Francisco I always think of Amber saying his name) because we know, and she knows, she doesn't want to do ANY of that.

She was also fake-crying about all she has "sacrificed for Leah." Does anyone have a clue about what she is referring to? I can't even fathom a guess.

I was shocked that after April said she stays sober by staying home, Drew hooked a thumb at Cate and Tyler and said "These two use in their home." Was that really Drew or a pod-person? I've never heard him acknowledge anything except imaginary shit.

Cate interrupted Tyler THREE times during ONE sentence he was trying to get out. She inserts her own words and phrases as he's speaking and it makes me INSANE. It makes me want to do a hearty Leah Messer-style "SHUT UP!!!!" (as she did in the car to Jeremy) right in Cate's oddly-shaped face. Leah had the perfect tone, volume and inflection on the word "up" when she shouted that, wrong as it was to do in front of the girlses. I want to yell it just like that quite often. But I don't. Even if ah fill ack it! *snort*

I laughed at how the segment went on, Cate squashed down into the couch more, resembling Jabba the Hutt in quicksand. I'm not sure what was happening but it amused me.

I was shocked Drew pointed that out as well about C&T. Then again, he got the info first hand from Cate herself when she called him and admitted to ALMOST everything she was ingesting and how often. 

Drew mentioning the drinking by way of Tyler giving Cate wine, seemed to really bother Cate. You could tell she was not happy at all. She seemed worried that he was going to spill more information. He was outing her drinking and her "addictive personality" what more could he spill?  It made me happy that Cate was unhappy. Ha!

Amber being so defensive about not doing aftercare, is a red flag. 

[Katt]

8 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Oh my 

https://mobile.twitter.com/AmberLPortwood/status/803735720825229313/photo/1

LOL, was that really Jenelle calling Amber a lazy ass in the comments?

[Yolo]

11 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Simon's take on the reunion:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SimonSaran/status/803707290180194304?p=v

Simon's an idiot just like Farrah! That's why they gravitate each other's way. There's not one person including his simple self that really tells Farrah what it is that she REALLY NEEDS TO HEAR.

[Yolo]

5 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

I cannot stand Dr. Jen. She is another "doctor" who does not hold Farrah accountable. She falls for Farrah's bullshit as I watched play out on Couples Therapy. What little she has said to Farrah that does make sense, it hardly makes a dent, and Farrah quickly forgets the advice unless she uses it to her advantage and twists it like she did two episodes ago.

It almost as if people are afraid of her. Wtf! If you call her out all she's going to do is get defensive then start to cry. I would've said something a long time ago before I punched her or vice versa!!! It's ok to give the benefit of the doubt once, anything outside of that is ridiculous.

[Katt]

Tyler: I'm no fat shamer, I love my wife...

[Polliwollidoodle]

15 hours ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

Yes, Yes, and Yes.  These women and their mates need something in their lives besides MTV regularly backing up a truck and dumping yet another load of cash at their doorsteps.  All they do is spend money, often times on stuff like luxury SUVs and bling.  They need to stop pretending they're business owners with online boutiques and T-Shirt stores, and just go to work or volunteer, if only for a few hours a day.  Catelyn and Amber especially need to get off their asses and stop the whining.  A little structure will do them all a World of good.

YASS. (yes:) a little structure and responsibility. you know, not juggling who is taking care of your issues and kid(s). for real

[imjagain]

Did they show the reunion on Monday??? I didn't record Monday's  episode but didn't realize it would be the reunion.  

[ginger90]

9 minutes ago, imjagain said:

Did they show the reunion on Monday??? I didn't record Monday's  episode but didn't realize it would be the reunion.  

Part one of the reunion was Monday, part two is next Monday. Tyler's "passion project" is on after part two. 

[Uncle JUICE]

I wish I had some advice for Gary in re: that chin strap beard. I mean I guess at one level you have to have something to differentiate neck from head, but at another level, that looks sucks. It doesn't help that his jaw looks like it extends outside his ears, it's a bizarre look. I like Gary, but come on, dude, those two girls are going to need a healthy dad, you just look rough. Walk a little or something, your lineman days are long gone. #ImNoFatShamer. 

[toodywoody]

so Dr Drew was on Cate and Tyler's ass about drinking while she's and 'addict', but says nothing to Amber about it? Ok, and Amber is talking about him calling Farrah out, when he isn't doing it to Amber? 

Amber just needs to stfu and focus on her kid instead of Farrah, Twitter snd Snap Chat. Amber drives me insane out of all of them.

[imjagain]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Part one of the reunion was Monday, part two is next Monday. Tyler's "passion project" is on after part two. 

@ginger90, Thank you. 

[Uncle JUICE]

Has anyone needed a "girl bye" more than Amber did in this show? "I'm so done!" No, you aren't, my dear. It would take less than a year for her to start pitching "Passion projects" to MTV, most likely a show about single moms getting out of prison, and then she'd be real surprised when their lives are basically shit in perpetuity, and don't feautre house flipping and trips to LA, etc. 

[starfire]

When Dr. Useless asked April something about what upset her most about what Cate has current issues with in regards to her growing up years, April said Cate's dad abandoning Cate. Dr. Useless even asked her again if that was what upset her most, and she said yes.

Um, April...you are more upset about what someone else did than your own abuse of Catelyn? You are a piece of shit. You may have not have left the home but you pretty much abandoned her too, and apparently Cate had to do a lot of the raising of Nick while April was using, treating her kids like shit, and being a worthless mother.

When Dr. Useless asked her the 2nd time I thought he would bring up April's abuse and neglect of Cate (and Nick, too) but of course he didn't. I can't stand the guy.

Edited November 30, 2016 by starfire

[RamonaSenomar]

19 hours ago, SuzyLee said:

Both Christina and Gary have learned over time that smiling stiffly and nodding vaguely are the best, safest ways to deal with the emotional powder keg that is Amber Portwood.  And Dr. Drew's catty little line: "Damn, that boy really triggers you!" made me want to vomit.  

Dr. Drew is so stupid.  It's not "that boy" that really triggers Amber.  It's the "Amber hearing the truth about what a shitty mother Amber is" that really triggers Amber.

#TeamGary!

[alexa]

I meant to add to my earlier post that Nova is simply beautiful and adorable.  Her parents might be annoying but she sure is a cutie!  :-)

[FlowerofCarnage]

10 hours ago, lexiexx said:

Catelynn is so full of shit.  She was the one that brought up having more kids twice this season and then denied it and said it was Tyler?  Tyler has either made a Jim Carey face or blew it off each time.  Wasn't it just last weeks episode where she said she wanted to be pregnant again next year?  She also said she "didn't know that" when she was talking with dawn about what exactly the adoption paperwork said and then told dr drew that she did know what it was at the time.  Then has the balls to say Carly idolizes them?  The fuck?  Carly has provably seen those two like four times total ever.   Did she actually start saying that Carly is in therapy or something?  Brandon and Theresa need to cut those two lying attention whores off once and for all.   

My co-worker said the same thing about Cate implying Carly might be in therapy. Good grief. I assume something traumatizing has happened that Carly's parents felt the need to put her in therapy. I assume whatever it was is related to all things Teen Mom : OG which would explain B and Theresa pulling pack from filming all together and putting and end to the visits.  And to think that Catelynn is delusional enough to think that Carly idolizes her when all signs point to Carly experiencing some sort of trauma because of her, Tyler and their dysfunctional antics that are played out for all to see.

[AhFillAck]

7 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

I was shocked Drew pointed that out as well about C&T. Then again, he got the info first hand from Cate herself when she called him and admitted to ALMOST everything she was ingesting and how often. 

Drew mentioning the drinking by way of Tyler giving Cate wine, seemed to really bother Cate. You could tell she was not happy at all. She seemed worried that he was going to spill more information. He was outing her drinking and her "addictive personality" what more could he spill?  It made me happy that Cate was unhappy. Ha!

And did you hear Tyler splutter "Well what KIND of sober are we talking about?!" For fuck's sake!!!

6 hours ago, Katt said:

Tyler: I'm no fat shamer, I love my wife...

It made me ill how they tried to smooth that over by stating that EVERYONE in the room was laughing after Tyler made the heifer comment, so it must be okay, then! Let's all remember that if someone says something cruel to us, if the people around us laugh, then it's perrrrfectly fiiiiine.

That's how dumbasses work!

It also grates on my nerves how they shrilly repeat every word that Nova says right after she says it. But at least it's a sign that they are acknowledging her existence in that moment ,so, carry on.

[imjagain]

Just watched this,  omg what a mess these women are. 

Cait said, Carly idiolizes Cate and Tyler?  Um, ok. 

Nova looks so much like Tyler. 

Amber is so damn fake.  Nothing about her is real. She is worried about trying to look good (I don't physically). She wants everyone to be envious of her life, the fact that people are not and can see what a miserable person she is drives her crazy.

Nice,  no tears while she cried over Gary being rational  and level headed about the time she is not seeing Leah,  and yet asking for more time. Not one damn tear. Dr.  Drew is a joke.  Trying to put Gary's wife in the middle  was unbelievable! Gary is not wrong,  Gary is trying to take care of his daughter and having her in a stable life with a reliable schedule is not wrong.  Gary's wife shouldn't have to tiptoe around  crazy Amber.  Christine must be a Saint,  because I would have had to put both Dr Drew and Amber in their place with all that nonsense. 

What the hell did Amber do to herself?   She looks old and worse than she ever has.  Is  this look for Matt? I don't think she looks much thinner.  Her hair looked like some old lady salon did it.  It reminded me of the episode on the Golden Girls, when they  all went to Sofia's salon and got her old lady hair style lol. 

Edited November 30, 2016 by imjagain

[toodywoody]

And it isn't Gary that triggers Amber, it's the truth. She was sitting there getting freaking bent at Dr Drew when he was mentioning certain things. I thought at one point she was going to punch Sad Panda that's how cray cray her eyes looked.

[deefizzle]

2 hours ago, alexa said:

I meant to add to my earlier post that Nova is simply beautiful and adorable.  Her parents might be annoying but she sure is a cutie!  :-)

Every time I see that child I just want to reach through the screen and hug, kiss and cuddle her. She is just precious. It's beyond sad that her own parents don't seem to realize that and would rather sit on their asses crying over the baby they placed for adoption than to appreciate the beautiful child they have right in front of them. 

Edited November 30, 2016 by deefizzle
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[poeticlicensed]

First of all, WTF was Amber wearing? Her new fake boobs look like a goddamn shelf and when she sits they are up in her face. Matt probably heard her "I'm done" and went tearing toward her to get her to take it back.  God forbid the MTV money train stops. And Amber is deluded.  she actually believes that smelly Matt will be there for more than one nanosecond after the last MTV paycheck is cashed. I wouldn't be surprised if any assets Amber has she willingly transferred to Matt "it's for protection baby to keep the lawyers away". But frankly, I don't think Amber has any assets. Rented house, leased cars, that's about it. Once MTV is gone, she will probably be homeless and using. She was right that Panda doesn't call Farrah out on her shit, but Panda doesn't call out Amber on her shit either. I hope she quits. That way asshole Matt can leave she might have a chance of getting her shit together. He is enabler in chief. What mentally healthy person gets plastic surgery to cure depression? That is such bullshit. 

 

As for Cate, I'm so over it. Cate has gotten a pass for years because of her grief at giving up Carly. It's time to move on. And move on doesn't mean have another Carly 3.0 (Nova is 2.0), getting a horse or cow or pig. It means get off the weed, get some real therapy where the therapist helps you make a life plan that includes goals beyond which takeout to get. Cate should be in school or working. Tyler should be in school or working. 

BTW, I also think that all the TMs read every word posted about them on social media. That's why they are in constant freak out mode. They are overreacting to what is being said about them.

Edited November 30, 2016 by poeticlicensed

[MaggieG]

Gary for the win! He was cool, calm, collected and making sense and Amber just could not handle it. Fuck her. It is odd that she did a whole 180 on Farrah. Of all four girls, Amber probably hated Farrah the least and they had that phone call earlier in the season when Farrah was actually nice to Amber.I remember we were all shocked because a nice Farrah is like a unicorn sighting.  I can't wait to see next week's fireworks! 

I haven't been over to TM2 thread, so it may be answered there but are they also breaking the 4th wall for their new season? The preview kinda made it seems so

[honeydo7]

Tired of watching these never-ending family fights, screaming, name-calling, accusations & arguments, after seven years. I think it's time MTV ends production on this series, finally cutting off that financial cushion & forcing those young women, who haven't been Teen Moms in years, to grow-up, find real M-F, 9 to 5 jobs which support their lifestyles of Unlimited Travel, Big Houses, Expensive Furnishings, Jewelry, Clothing, Partying, Land Rovers & Rolex Watches they've come to expect while on  MTV's payroll.  

Edited November 30, 2016 by honeydo7

[AirQuotes]

On 11/29/2016 at 9:49 AM, kira28 said:

I laughed hysterically at Cate and Tyler's delusion about Carly. "she idolizes us". Um no,  sorry to tell ya, but that little girl could probably care less about you.  You are two people she vaguely recognizes.  You are not part of her daily life,  not part of her immediate family and she isn't in awe of them.  She may even forget them if she doesn't see them for the next ten years. 

 

Cate also said something about Carly thinks she is a pretty princess because she saw her at their wedding all dressed up.

I don't think C&T go to many weddings.  As a kid, we went to lots of weddings and there were several years of me being flower girl in a few of my cousins' weddings.  I never idolized the marrying couples or equated them with princesses.

C&T need to get over themselves.  I was adopted at birth, and if people like C&T, Butch Baltierra and April (I imagine they all reek of cigarettes and weed smoke) had come around to visit me I would have been terrified.  My parents were my parents, and I knew nothing different.

Also FTR, I have never had a desire to go find birth relatives.  That's just not a rock I want to go look under, and I hope Carly feels the same way.  I've met plenty of other adults adopted at birth who feel like me.  Adopted children are capable of growing up to be well-adjusted and happy with their family.  Their family is their family; period.  C&T just need to get over themselves and stop with the Carly "idolizes us" delusions.

[CofCinci]

I can't even with their remark that Carly idolizes them. No....  Not even possible.  She's a polite child raised by polite parents doing the polite things that polite people do to be polite to STRANGERS.  Catelynn, you're a slovenly drug addict. Tyler, you're a narcissist. Both of you ignore the child eating cigarette butts off of crackhead April's floor. There is not a single redemptive quality to idolize!!! Are they insane?!!  Even deciding on the adoption plan for Carly was based solely on keeping Tyler. It was him or the baby - and it was too late for an abortion. It wasn't some grand gesture to give Carly a better life. It was to keep that Marshall Mathers wannabe in your bed.