Haleth November 25, 2020 Share November 25, 2020 (edited) I think it’s a shame what Marlo has done to her face, especially her nose. She doesn’t look like herself anymore. Goldie Hawn on the other hand looks almost exactly the same as she did 50 yrs ago. Edited November 25, 2020 by Haleth 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6469899
Crashcourse December 8, 2020 Share December 8, 2020 I'm watching a movie now called "Zombie Strippers" (don't judge! 😁) and in the intro there are pictures of President Bush and Jenna Bush. She held a position in his cabinet. 🤣 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6490801
scorpio1031 December 8, 2020 Share December 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Crashcourse said: She held a position in his cabinet. 🤣 Probably his liquor cabinet🤣 She was a party girl in college 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6490818
Haleth December 9, 2020 Share December 9, 2020 I laughed the other day when Jenna mentioned Dolly ParTon and really enunciated the T this time. I guess someone told her to quit calling her Pardon. I cried when they did the story about Bobbie Thomas's husband passing away. So sad. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6491742
seasons December 11, 2020 Share December 11, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 7:10 AM, Haleth said: I laughed the other day when Jenna mentioned Dolly ParTon and really enunciated the T this time. I guess someone told her to quit calling her Pardon. I cried when they did the story about Bobbie Thomas's husband passing away. So sad. Ugh. Really sorry to hear about Bobbie Thomas' husband. She seems so nice and down to Earth and they seemed to have a beautiful marriage and family. He seemed like such a good guy. Tragic. Changing gears 1000%' Savannah's hair is awful today. Looks so messy, like she was just doing some heavy-duty housecleaning or exercise or something. Hoda has her beat in the hair department lately. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6494927
sas616 December 12, 2020 Share December 12, 2020 12 hours ago, seasons said: Ugh. Really sorry to hear about Bobbie Thomas' husband. She seems so nice and down to Earth and they seemed to have a beautiful marriage and family. He seemed like such a good guy. Tragic. Changing gears 1000%' Savannah's hair is awful today. Looks so messy, like she was just doing some heavy-duty housecleaning or exercise or something. Hoda has her beat in the hair department lately. Have to laugh about the hair comment. As soon as I saw Savannah I started talking to myself..."what in the hell is wrong with her hair? and immediately felt bad about it because I remember back in the Spring/Summer, so many viewers were complaining about her messy hair. I agree Hoda's hair looked nice, but it's probably because someone is doing it for her. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6495932
ByaNose December 13, 2020 Share December 13, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 8:05 PM, sas616 said: Have to laugh about the hair comment. As soon as I saw Savannah I started talking to myself..."what in the hell is wrong with her hair? and immediately felt bad about it because I remember back in the Spring/Summer, so many viewers were complaining about her messy hair. I agree Hoda's hair looked nice, but it's probably because someone is doing it for her. I think Savannah just has non thick hair and it doesn’t keep a curl long let alone for 2 hours. I think she tries everything (up, down, curled, straight) but it just looks messy. Hoda has thicker hair and pretty much parts it on the side and she calls it a day. On the later shows she is constantly running her hand through her hair (which drives some people crazy) but Savanah couldn’t even attempt to do that. He hair just isn’t made that way. The problem I have with her is her puffy at the shoulders sleeves dresses and tops she wears. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6497720
seasons December 15, 2020 Share December 15, 2020 Ugh, have to change gears again. Heard them mention that Craig Melvin's older brother passed away from colon cancer after a four year battle. Family man with with wife and two children. Really tragic. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6501894
scorpio1031 December 15, 2020 Share December 15, 2020 So, Hoda and Haley made Al a birthday cake when it wasn't really his birthday, cause Hoda got her information from a Today show newsletter??? We can add co-workers birthdays to the list of things Hoda doesn't remember, right under co-worker's kid's names. 3 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6501955
debbie311 December 15, 2020 Share December 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said: So, Hoda and Haley made Al a birthday cake when it wasn't really his birthday, cause Hoda got her information from a Today show newsletter??? We can add co-workers birthdays to the list of things Hoda doesn't remember, right under co-worker's kid's names. I thought that was weird too. How could she not know his birthday? Don't they usually make kind of a big deal about birthdays? She was making a boxed cake, which is fine, but she was letting Hayley "lick the bowl!" Does she not know you are not supposed to eat raw cake batter? It says so right on the box. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6501990
Haleth December 16, 2020 Share December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, debbie311 said: She was making a boxed cake, which is fine, but she was letting Hayley "lick the bowl!" Does she not know you are not supposed to eat raw cake batter? It says so right on the box. I know! I was yelling at the tv too! 3 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6502091
Axie December 16, 2020 Share December 16, 2020 Hoda is a horrible human being. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6503067
Crashcourse December 16, 2020 Share December 16, 2020 49 minutes ago, Axie said: Hoda is a horrible human being. And that pretty much sums it up. I can't stand her. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6503140
ByaNose December 20, 2020 Share December 20, 2020 Hoda doesn’t really seem to care about anyone but is always talking about it. Joel seems like a great guy & really good looking. I think Hoda is more into her kids then him. She never wants to go the extra mile & does the very minimum. She freely admits it by laughing it off. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6508821
OpalNightstream December 23, 2020 Share December 23, 2020 What is the point of “cooking with cal”? They can barely handle having a real chef on the show without rushing it along and cutting them off prematurely. But for some reason they have a regular feature where we watch a toddler have a conversation with his mom as they chop vegetables? 3 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6514555
Bugaboo December 23, 2020 Share December 23, 2020 2 hours ago, OpalNightstream said: What is the point of “cooking with cal”? They can barely handle having a real chef on the show without rushing it along and cutting them off prematurely. But for some reason they have a regular feature where we watch a toddler have a conversation with his mom as they chop vegetables? Because they think ALL of their kids are so darn cute!! 3 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6514725
ByaNose December 27, 2020 Share December 27, 2020 On 12/23/2020 at 11:49 AM, Bugaboo said: Because they think ALL of their kids are so darn cute!! Wait till Hoda adopts her third child. We’ll never hear the end of it because you know real people like us don’t have or adopt kids like the Today show people. They are always so amazed when they mention they are engaged or pregnant or adopting. It’s like they’ve invented it or something. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6518799
scorpio1031 December 27, 2020 Share December 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, ByaNose said: Wait till Hoda adopts her third child. We’ll never hear the end of it because you know real people like us don’t have or adopt kids like the Today show people. They are always so amazed when they mention they are engaged or pregnant or adopting. It’s like they’ve invented it or something. They also invented celebrating Christmas. People’s website has a story about it cause it’s so rare🙄 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6518807
Crankybroad December 27, 2020 Share December 27, 2020 I don’t know why they think we are so interested in their personal lives. I’ve watched the show while getting ready for work every day since 1985. But the “me me me” has pushed me over the edge. And the two weeks without it due to the dispute with my cable provider (we didn’t have NBC for about two weeks), has opened me up to alternatives. I may go with GMA. I’ve always loved Dylan, but a little of cooking with Calvin is plenty. Way too much focus on Hoda and Jenna - ALL their personal lives really. It’s a bit like listening to people drone on and and on bragging about a party you’ll never be invited to. I think that’s the thing maybe; it’s very tone deaf particularly at this time. I don’t know why they think we are interested! Maybe I’m just a curmudgeon, but I’m really about to give up my 35 year Today show habit. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6518883
Bronzedog January 4, 2021 Share January 4, 2021 Jenna just said she likes to work from bed after she's eated. Eated. Ummm. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6532104
scorpio1031 January 4, 2021 Share January 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Bronzedog said: Jenna just said she likes to work from bed after she's eated. Eated. Ummm. What!!! She pronounced a "t"?? I'm shocked...🤣 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6532675
Bronzedog January 5, 2021 Share January 5, 2021 4 hours ago, scorpio1031 said: What!!! She pronounced a "t"?? I'm shocked...🤣 Yes, she did! Maybe it was because she was well nourished. Perhaps she had just eated. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6533092
Crankybroad January 6, 2021 Share January 6, 2021 The third hour of today is dreadful. Just an hour of talking about themselves, and I don’t care about them. 1 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6535504
seasons January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 Good grief. They must have pulled Savannah away from scrubbing the toilets or something with her messy, unprofessional hair updo to cover the crisis situation in Washington. Come on girl, get a clue. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6536334
BuckeyeLou January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 4 hours ago, seasons said: Good grief. They must have pulled Savannah away from scrubbing the toilets or something with her messy, unprofessional hair updo to cover the crisis situation in Washington. Come on girl, get a clue. I thought the same thing, her messy looking ponytail distracted me, maybe she had been in the middle of exercising? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6537067
ByaNose January 10, 2021 Share January 10, 2021 On 1/7/2021 at 12:18 AM, BuckeyeLou said: I thought the same thing, her messy looking ponytail distracted me, maybe she had been in the middle of exercising? She has he worst hair. Neither their stylist or Savanah herself have a clue what to do with it. It’s thin and long whereas Honda’s is thick & she just parts it on the side. She’s kind of lucky that way. That said, it must suck to be a woman on the news because they get judged on their and clothes. The men have it easier. Of course, there are Al’s stupid glasses. Those I want to stomp on. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6541431
seasons January 13, 2021 Share January 13, 2021 (edited) Savannah got in a surprisingly funny comment today. They were showing justin timberlake on zoom waiting to be interviewed for some movie. He looked so bored and disinterested. Savannah made a comment something like him looking like he was " in a hostage video or something ". It was so funny and so true! God forbid one of them said something like that to JLo or one of the other major stars the suck up to. Maybe he was ticked off he had to share the interview with his 8 year old costar. 😮 Edited January 13, 2021 by seasons 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6546180
scorpio1031 January 13, 2021 Share January 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, seasons said: Savannah got in a surprisingly funny comment today. They were showing justin timberlake on zoom waiting to be interviewed for some movie. He looked so bored and disinterested. Savannah made a comment something like him looking like he was " in a hostage video or something ". It was so funny and so true! God forbid one of them said something like that to JLo or one of the other major stars the suck up to. Maybe he was ticked off he had to share the interview with his 8 year old costar. 😮 Zoom is terrible. If you aren’t moving, your screen freezes and everyone thinks you aren’t listening. And sometimes I’m not 😂 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6546198
Crashcourse January 13, 2021 Share January 13, 2021 5 hours ago, scorpio1031 said: Zoom is terrible. If you aren’t moving, your screen freezes and everyone thinks you aren’t listening. And sometimes I’m not 😂 And depending on the angle, you might not look too good either. I read that plastic surgeries are on the rise because people don't like the way they look on Zoom. I think that's sad to go to such lengths but, hey, it's their faces. 1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6546661
ByaNose January 13, 2021 Share January 13, 2021 9 hours ago, scorpio1031 said: Zoom is terrible. If you aren’t moving, your screen freezes and everyone thinks you aren’t listening. And sometimes I’m not 😂 Today 3rd hour did a story on people getting facelifts and/or plastic surgery because they are depressed how they look on Zoom. That in itself is sad. Aren’t there apps for that kind of stuff. I don’t even think pretty people look good in Zoom. It’s just a camera and unless you have super great lighting you’ll look awful. This shall soon pass and we’ll all be together again with our normal looking faces without a camera. Hopefully. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6547034
OpalNightstream January 21, 2021 Share January 21, 2021 Let’s hope they don’t make today’s show all about JLO (cmon, you know it’s possible once Hoda starts on a tangent) 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6560502
ByaNose January 26, 2021 Share January 26, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 7:04 AM, OpalNightstream said: Let’s hope they don’t make today’s show all about JLO (cmon, you know it’s possible once Hoda starts on a tangent) Personally, I want to know what’s with their obsession with Simone Biles?!?! Jeez Louise! She’s a gymnast that’s been to the Olympic and possibly again. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6568236
seasons January 27, 2021 Share January 27, 2021 Geez, Savannah, what is up with that strange, summery polka dot dress today? Too low cut, too many gold chains, just an odd choice. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6570595
seasons January 29, 2021 Share January 29, 2021 On 1/27/2021 at 7:15 AM, seasons said: Geez, Savannah, what is up with that strange, summery polka dot dress today? Too low cut, too many gold chains, just an odd choice. Quoting myself lol - I am tough on these folks but I have to give credit to Savannah, Hoda, Dyan, Shanice (sp?) - they haven't jumped on board the fake eyelash extension trend. Some women I see on tv lately look downright scary with these spider lashes! Also, I don't notice any giant fake teeth with the gang. So there's that. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6575231
OpalNightstream January 29, 2021 Share January 29, 2021 3 hours ago, seasons said: Quoting myself lol - I am tough on these folks but I have to give credit to Savannah, Hoda, Dyan, Shanice (sp?) - they haven't jumped on board the fake eyelash extension trend. Some women I see on tv lately look downright scary with these spider lashes! Also, I don't notice any giant fake teeth with the gang. So there's that. Sunny hostin on the view is the worst with the over the top lashes, hair and makeup.I agree that the today show folks seem more natural, or at least, less vain. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6575416
Crashcourse January 29, 2021 Share January 29, 2021 10 hours ago, seasons said: Some women I see on tv lately look downright scary with these spider lashes! There's a local female newscaster that I really like, but I wish she'd get rid of those damn spidery lashes! She's a mature, attractive woman and those fake lashes are so distracting and unnecessary. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6576116
ByaNose February 1, 2021 Share February 1, 2021 Hoda looked beautiful in her sleeveless black turtleneck & tan skirt but I’m getting colder just watching her. C’mon, it’s February 1st Hoda put some sleeves on that sweater. LOL!!! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6581233
Crashcourse February 1, 2021 Share February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, ByaNose said: Hoda looked beautiful in her sleeveless black turtleneck & tan skirt but I’m getting colder just watching her. C’mon, it’s February 1st Hoda put some sleeves on that sweater. LOL!!! Hoda is famous for going sleeveless in the dead of winter. She just looks stupid. Contrast that with Jenna who was covered from the neck on down with long sleeves and long dress. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6581348
ByaNose February 1, 2021 Share February 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, Crashcourse said: Hoda is famous for going sleeveless in the dead of winter. She just looks stupid. Contrast that with Jenna who was covered from the neck on down with long sleeves and long dress. Yeah, Jenna was a too Little House on the Prairie for me. There’s covered up & then there was Jenna. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6581382
Axie February 2, 2021 Share February 2, 2021 Every time I see Hoda, who once again, was laughing about how she just leaves people at events leaving them to figure out how to get home, I wonder how she got so successful. She doesn't seem that smart, she doesn't seem that reliable, she isn't even that likable, so how? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6581923
scorpio1031 February 2, 2021 Share February 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Axie said: Every time I see Hoda, who once again, was laughing about how she just leaves people at events leaving them to figure out how to get home, I wonder how she got so successful. She doesn't seem that smart, she doesn't seem that reliable, she isn't even that likable, so how? If her friends are still catching a ride with her, then they aren't very smart either. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6581932
Indigo Luna February 10, 2021 Share February 10, 2021 This is random but can someone get these people new chairs to sit in?? They always look so uncomfortable in those bar stool height chairs they put them on and seeing them awkwardly shift around all the time like I don't know why they can't have normal chairs so half of them aren't hanging off the side all the time. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6596261
Kimmmmmm February 20, 2021 Share February 20, 2021 On December 23, 2020 at 9:45 AM, OpalNightstream said: What is the point of “cooking with cal”? They can barely handle having a real chef on the show without rushing it along and cutting them off prematurely. But for some reason they have a regular feature where we watch a toddler have a conversation with his mom as they chop vegetables? I think he's a doll! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6616361
captain1 February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 Hopping in here to say Willie was looking a trumpian shade of orange this morning - maybe he did his own makeup? I kept expecting him to come back from commercial with some of it wiped off! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6618244
Haleth February 21, 2021 Share February 21, 2021 2 hours ago, captain1 said: Hopping in here to say Willie was looking a trumpian shade of orange this morning - maybe he did his own makeup? I kept expecting him to come back from commercial with some of it wiped off! I never watch Sunday morning but happened to see him this morning and thought the same thing! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6618417
Haleth February 25, 2021 Share February 25, 2021 It’s a fact that the harder The Today Show/NBC pushes a movie, the worse it is. 1 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6627789
seasons March 8, 2021 Share March 8, 2021 I see that today is some made up women's day that the Today show is buying into big time. And Savannah is wearing some message t shirt under her jacket that you can't read. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6648949
Axie March 16, 2021 Share March 16, 2021 WTH is wrong with Hoda? Jenna was telling a sweet story about going to the White House to meet the Obama daughters with her sister and Hoda starts laughing uncontrollably and ruins the story. Why? So she can tell Jenna to blow her nose. Hoda is a professional? What an ass. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6665175
BuckeyeLou March 16, 2021 Share March 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Axie said: WTH is wrong with Hoda? Jenna was telling a sweet story about going to the White House to meet the Obama daughters with her sister and Hoda starts laughing uncontrollably and ruins the story. Why? So she can tell Jenna to blow her nose. Hoda is a professional? What an ass. I agree....Hoda had an embarrasing laughing fit while Jenna was telling a nice story about showing the Obama girls around the White House, why couldnt Hoda wait until an ad break to tell Jenna about something in her nose, if I had been Jenna I would have been mad, she tried to politely brush it off. By the 4th Hour, I wonder if Hoda is 'slap happy, giggly" from lack of sleep? 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6665208
OpalNightstream March 16, 2021 Share March 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Axie said: WTH is wrong with Hoda? Jenna was telling a sweet story about going to the White House to meet the Obama daughters with her sister and Hoda starts laughing uncontrollably and ruins the story. Why? So she can tell Jenna to blow her nose. Hoda is a professional? What an ass. Hoda laughs at everything. I think it’s like a nervous twitch with her at this point. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4855-all-episodes-talk-orange-is-the-new-yuck/page/70/#findComment-6665532
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