Season 1 Discussion

[LocalGovt]

1 hour ago, newyorkgirl said:

I apologize in advance for what I am about to write.

Perhaps it was not urine. Some women are able to ejaculate during intercourse.

And me, here I am, sitting here wondering how she pee'd "on" him (as was said).  The logistics of the whole thing has taken up way too much of my time. But I doubt her told her to get on top of him.  Maybe it was just a misused word.  Or they were standing face to face, and she .....-oh, nevermind.

[Jennifersdc]

New drinking game. Drink every time Danielle says "social media". We'll all get snookered.

If we're going for comatose add every time she does that weird smile and giggle.

[bethster2000]

14 minutes ago, islandgal140 said:

he is a early bird loverat

*choking to death on Special K*

[GracieK]

52 minutes ago, newyorkgirl said:

No.  It has not been debunked. The fluid is a mixture of urine and prostatic fluid.  Urine is predominant.  The point is that she ejaculates as part of orgasm during sexual arousal.  She is not peeing herself because of a medical problem.  If this is what Danielle has, it is not incontinence due to having children.  Mo should be flattered.  LOL.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23350685  

I don't want to derail the topic but most medical professionals agree that when you have a large amount of fluid, enough to feel peed on.. it's pee.  Sometimes a small amount of fluid from the Skene glands is mixed in but not in large enough quantities to wet the sheets or drench your partner. SORRY TO EVERYONE WHO JUST READ THAT lol.

Source.. gyno in my family. 

[Jolee]

Ref Danielle, I think it's not only that she pee's, but I get the idea that she does not have good personal hygiene.

By Mo saying she needs to see a Doctor, makes me think she also has other female problems, that she is refusing to address. That with urine smell, could be very off-putting.

I am extremely sensitive to smells. Mo may also be that way.

Paola reminds of a Grifter also, just something about her whole attitude.

[Pepper Mostly]

1 hour ago, islandgal140 said:

 

I haven't minded Loren that much these past few episode but she annoyed me to no end when Alexei was so happy he was reduced to tears over being so happy with the 2nd wedding with all his friends and family present, instead of sort of enjoying that moment she has to pat herself on the back and say he is having that moment because of her and her planning.  Just enjoy the moment and your husband and don't make it all about yourself.

God, I know right? When she snuggled up next to him and purred "I told you I'd make it perfect for you!" I would have cheerfully thrown a brick through the TV. Jesus Loren. Just once, try not to make it all about you. 

[Palomar]

Regarding Pao and Russ.  Has it been said if she is making enough to live on in Miami with her modeling gigs?  I have a feeling not, or she would be long gone with her maiden name and green card. 

[Awfarmington]

On 11/2/2016 at 10:29 AM, gunderda said:

I heard DRIVER, but the tv said DIVER. I thought both were weird.  If he can drive then he can easily take classes to get his CDL, don't think he needs a green card for that?

That is totally his sister.  She looks EXACTLY like him.  She's Devar with a wig and boobs.

I was beginning to think I was the only one who thought they look like twins! He could have a GF down there who bore his children, but that lady is definitely not her. 

[Straycat80]

5 hours ago, newyorkgirl said:

I read on this website days ago that the Devar leaving story was a fake.  Do you avoid spoiler threads?

Yes, I try to  avoid spoiler threads. I have peeked and maybe commented on spoiler threads once in a while. 

Edited November 8, 2016 by Straycat80

[Meowwww]

3 hours ago, GracieK said:

I don't want to derail the topic but most medical professionals agree that when you have a large amount of fluid, enough to feel peed on.. it's pee.  Sometimes a small amount of fluid from the Skene glands is mixed in but not in large enough quantities to wet the sheets or drench your partner. SORRY TO EVERYONE WHO JUST READ THAT lol.

Source.. gyno in my family. 

Nooooooooooooooooooo

[Drogo]

It can't be said enough.  

Social media/spoilers don't belong here. 

[Adeejay]

5 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

Both Pao and Mo come for places associate with heat. Also, places like Miami maybe more of a melting pot, albeit it might lean decidedly towards the Spanish speaking as opposed to Mo. Mo might also like Florida because it has a higher older female demo, many of which might be retirees or even widowed.

When Danielle arrived at her hotel in Miami, she stated that she could see why Mo likes Miami.  She said the warm weather and palm trees probably reminds him of Tunisia. 

[Raja]

10 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

Regardless of "love," they do need to prove that they have a relationship before getting approved. Pictures, correspondence, proof of living together, sleeping together, knowing each other's preferences, etc. Sharing their lives.

The knowing of preferences and proof of sharing of lives together comes later after about two years of marriage when the attempt for the alien to get the permanent resident green card comes. Before then to get the K-1 you are proving you actually have met before, have the legal right to marry and you intend to make a life together. And to get the temporary 2 year green card that you went through with the legal marriage within the 90 days.

[magemaud]

7 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

Another thing I am now sure of - Pao is wearing a full on wig!

I thought so, too! And I couldn't quite figure out why Danielle looked a bit better than usual until I realized she was wearing false eyelashes. Plus it helped to get rid of that Ronald McDonald Red hair. See what you're missing, Mo! 

I also think Alexei's father was wearing a very bad hair piece. In some scenes, he wears a do-rag but for formal occasions, like a wedding, he must bring out his toupee. 

Why does Kyle avoid eye contact? He always looks like a sullen teenager. 

Edited November 8, 2016 by magemaud

[Real Eyes]

2 hours ago, magemaud said:

Why does Kyle avoid eye contact? He always looks like a sullen teenager. 

Insecurity, probably.  Not unusual given his life circumstances.

[mamadrama]

10 hours ago, LocalGovt said:

And me, here I am, sitting here wondering how she pee'd "on" him (as was said).  

You and me both!

[LocalGovt]

On 11/5/2016 at 1:28 AM, bethster2000 said:

Russ is the human equivalent of post-nasal drip.  Did you see the flash of petulant brat temper when Pao was on the phone with her parents?  As I said before, I almost married a man who behaved just like that.  And all I will say about it now is Thank God I Got Out.

He's nada.  Beige paint.  Pablum.  Paola can do so much better.

To be fair, she and her family were mocking him. (ha, ha! It's easier to change husbands than it is jobs!) I can't say I wouldn't be  a little angry myself.

[LocalGovt]

18 hours ago, wings707 said:

I just found this series and have only seen the reunion show (I have the rest ready to record) but I have to comment! LOL! 

I get it that Mohamed is sleazy, that is clear.  I have to say that I found myself on his side, though.  He wanted a green card and she knew that!  That is what this show is all about.  I have a very hard time finding sympathy for her.   He is not to be blamed for her fantasy of him falling in love with her.  Everyone told her what was going on, she didn't listen.  Not that she needed that, it should have been clear to her.  She is a pathetic character and painful to watch but she created the mess she is in, Mohamed did not.  The casting director has to take some responsibility, too.  

I really think Dani thought Mo loved her. The green card was incidental.  To her, I mean.

[Granny58]

1 hour ago, LocalGovt said:

Russ is the human equivalent of post-nasal drip.  Did you see the flash of petulant brat temper when Pao was on the phone with her parents?

I actually quite like Russ.  He doesn't seem to have undue anger, and appears to consider her feelings a lot.  He is a normal, down to earth guy.  I could dig him (from what we're shown anyway). 

[Wings]

45 minutes ago, LocalGovt said:

I really think Dani thought Mo loved her. The green card was incidental.  To her, I mean.

Sad. Creepy sad. 

[MrHufflepuff]

Because of this show, I've learned more about female ejaculate/pee/pelvic floor issues than I ever knew before.  TLC truly is The Learning Channel.

[islandgal140]

8 hours ago, magemaud said:

I also think Alexei's father was wearing a very bad hair piece. In some scenes, he wears a do-rag but for formal occasions, like a wedding, he must bring out his toupee. 

OMG yes!  I was gonna say something but didn't want to rag too much. His wig was a bit verging on Mo of the Three Stooges. Not a good look. 

[Neurochick]

That reunion show was the best.  I kept looking at Loren's face during the Dani and Mo arguments.  I didn't like that host at all, she probably has never seen the show. 

I can't see how any judge can give Dani an annulment when she has said time and time again that she and Mo need to "work on their marriage."  If there was NO marriage then what are you working on.  Also, if Dani said she wanted an annulment because that way it means the marriage never happened, but what about all of us who watched on TLC?  Maybe she hopes that as soon as she gets rid of Mohammad, TLC will give her her own show.

I laughed at her "crying" because I never saw any tears and that stupid host handed her a tissue.  SMH.

[Arwen Evenstar]

23 hours ago, Sup wit dat said:

I agree Russ and Pao are in trouble.  If it was just her pictures or just her name change or just her move to Miami for work I'd say they could work through it.  But all of those things combined is her just flipping Russ the bird and saying "It's all about ME now."  I think she got bit by the fame-ho bug.

What struck me in the tell all was the men had less problems with her doffing her top than changing her name...WTF...maybe Paola Spanish last name sounds more exotic and marketable than Mayfield. In Latin America and even the US territory of Puerto Rico, women do not usually change their names. I kept my maiden name for professional reasons but use my married name for social reasons.

[DangerousMinds]

9 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

What struck me in the tell all was the men had less problems with her doffing her top than changing her name...WTF...maybe Paola Spanish last name sounds more exotic and marketable than Mayfield. In Latin America and even the US territory of Puerto Rico, women do not usually change their names. I kept my maiden name for professional reasons but use my married name for social reasons.

I agree, I don't think there is anything wrong with her deciding to change her name back. As you said, it's very common in other cultures - even patriarchal ones. Women do not have to take their husbands' names, nor do their children.

[Drogo]

I don't see any issue with a woman not taking her husband's name when they marry... but I could see how Paola taking his name then changing back to her maiden name would raise some flags for Russ and others.

[Britty]

15 hours ago, Palomar said:

Regarding Pao and Russ.  Has it been said if she is making enough to live on in Miami with her modeling gigs?  I have a feeling not, or she would be long gone with her maiden name and green card. 

Highly doubtful!  Beautiful women are everywhere in Miami.  Young, beautiful women who don't have harsh features, obvious plastic surgery, and wear cheap black wigs.  That "agency" referred her to a photographer and took a cut of that money (or was paid a finder's fee).  Then they wanted her to pay to sign with them so they could take 20% of any jobs she gets from them or on her own.  They are not legit. 

I can't get over everyone saying, "it's a job" when discussing Pao being photographed topless.  I mean, posing completely naked and spread for Hustler is a job.  Giving fully nude lap dances is a job.  Porn movies are jobs.  Is Russ supposed to be ok with her doing those things because they are "just jobs"?  Some people are and some aren't.  There's not a right or wrong answer.  It's a silly justification.  Pao wasn't showing anything, but it made Russ uncomfortable (for whatever reason: his parents' reaction, an unknown photographer on a public beach, her surprising him with it on camera).  Talk about it like the married adults you are and see if you can figure the situation out.  Pao's ridiculous behavior toward him is not helping. 

[Pepper Mostly]

41 minutes ago, Drogo said:

I don't see any issue with a woman not taking her husband's name when they marry... but I could see how Paola taking his name then changing back to her maiden name would raise some flags for Russ and others.

Yes, this is my take also. Pao is perfectly free to use her maiden name "professionally" (haha) without legally changing it back. And if she'd wanted to retain her maiden name when she  married, more power to her. But to marry a man, take his name, and then legally change back to your maiden name? Why do that? It just seems like a mean and spiteful thing to do, aimed at hurting Russ and his family. That's not cool.

[guilfoyleatpp]

There was something about the way she said she was changing it because of his family.

Because they didn't like her photos.

There's some resentment there, it appears. It would appear they've made no attempt to disguise their judgement of her and she sees it. Instead of seeing that her changing back to her maiden name is a refutation of his family's refusal to accept her, he sees it as a blow against himself.  He's still "us against her."  

Your wife is more important than your mama, dude. He's letting them drive a wedge, which he might regret.

[goldensglitter]

17 hours ago, GracieK said:

I don't want to derail the topic but most medical professionals agree that when you have a large amount of fluid, enough to feel peed on.. it's pee.  Sometimes a small amount of fluid from the Skene glands is mixed in but not in large enough quantities to wet the sheets or drench your partner. SORRY TO EVERYONE WHO JUST READ THAT lol.

Source.. gyno in my family. 

Holy macaroni........

[balisticnikki]

20 hours ago, Real Eyes said:

No, Alexei is originally from Ukraine (Kriviy Rih, I believe).  His family speaks a mixture of Russian, Ukrainian, and surzhik, which is a mixture of Russian and Ukrainian.

That's what I meant to say (I still lump all the former Soviet states together...)

 

2 hours ago, Drogo said:

I don't see any issue with a woman not taking her husband's name when they marry... but I could see how Paola taking his name then changing back to her maiden name would raise some flags for Russ and others.

But she did take his name. And then threw it back at him "bc of his family." (I didn't take my husband's last name when I got married either...but we're divorced now. So I get it.)

[balisticnikki]

19 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

Another thing I am now sure of - Pao is wearing a full on wig! A bad one too. Looks like it came with a Princess Jasmine costume. 

I haven't minded Loren that much these past few episode but she annoyed me to no end when Alexei was so happy he was reduced to tears over being so happy with the 2nd wedding with all his friends and family present, instead of sort of enjoying that moment she has to pat herself on the back and say he is having that moment because of her and her planning.  Just enjoy the moment and your husband and don't make it all about yourself.

There is sooo much bad/false hair on this series, I can almost feel it in my throat.

I just saw snippets from the Pao and Russ's story during Season 1 for the first time, and her hair is/was seriously thin. Yep, in this Happily Ever After show, she has been wearing clip in pieces and also wigs. Wigs during the THs and also on the Tell All. And she wore a wig on her wedding day.  

Then there is Alexei's father's rug, Alexei's patchy beard, Narkiya's wig and fake bun, Chantal's weave, Azan's relaxer, Yamir's relaxer,  Melanie's diy bottle brunette, Cassia's bride of Frankenstein two tone, Danielle's helmet hair, and Mark's mid life crisis highlights. But I actually liked Mark's daughter's silver hair and Chantal's brother's fluffy fro.

Edited November 8, 2016 by balisticnikki

[Toaster Strudel]

3 hours ago, Neurochick said:

I laughed at her "crying" because I never saw any tears and that stupid host handed her a tissue.  SMH.

In all fairness tears rarely show well on film, that's why they often have to use artificial glycerin tears in movies, they show off more.

[Landlord]

20 minutes ago, balisticnikki said:

There is sooo much bad/false hair on this series, I can almost feel it in my throat.

I just saw snippets from the Pao and Russ's story during Season 1 for the first time, and her hair is/was seriously thin. Yep, in this Happily Ever After show, she has been wearing clip in pieces and also wigs. Wigs during the THs and also on the Tell All. And she wore a wig on her wedding day.  

Then there is Alexei's father's rug, Alexei's patchy beard, Narkiya's wig and fake bun, Chantal's weave, Azan's relaxer, Yamir's relaxer,  Melanie's diy bottle brunette, Cassia's bride of Frankenstein two tone, Danielle's helmet hair, and Mark's mid life crisis highlights. But I actually liked Mark's daughter's silver hair and Chantal's brother's fluffy fro.

If you check out Mark's daughter Elise on her FB or IG, she likes getting funky with her hair, she's the cutest thing. 

[bethster2000]

2 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

It just seems like a mean and spiteful thing to do, aimed at hurting Russ and his family.

They seem to be the equivalent of watching paint dry, and very cold to Paola, who is awesome.  If someone treated me the way Russ' family treated her, I wouldn't be so keen to keep the last name, either.

I do think that it is a move to extricate herself from her marriage.

And that Mohammed!  Such a gentleman!  She brings him to the United States, and he thanks her for it by telling millions of viewers that her vag stinks.

[steff13]

4 minutes ago, bethster2000 said:

And that Mohammed!  Such a gentleman!  She brings him to the United States, and he thanks her for it by telling millions of viewers that her vag stinks.

I was thinking this, too, and I'm not a Mohammed apologist, but I think Danielle brought it up first.  I think she said, "he thinks I smell," and he chimed in and agreed.  He may not have said anything if she hadn't brought it up.  Or, he may have because he's a douche.

[Virtually Me]

Dani outted herself. 

Edited November 8, 2016 by Virtually Me

[bethster2000]

2 hours ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

He's still "us against her."

This.  

Ain't nobody who should be treated like that, especially by a husband.

[balisticnikki]

40 minutes ago, steff13 said:

I was thinking this, too, and I'm not a Mohammed apologist, but I think Danielle brought it up first.  I think she said, "he thinks I smell," and he chimed in and agreed.  He may not have said anything if she hadn't brought it up.  Or, he may have because he's a douche.

In response to a question about whether or not they had had sex after the wedding, Mo said something like, "yeah...but...there is a reason why we didn't do it too much and she won't get it fixed. I don't want to go into details."

And then Danielle filled in the blanks. And them Mo confirmed.

[Virtually Me]

13 minutes ago, balisticnikki said:

In response to a question about whether or not they had had sex after the wedding, Mo said something like, "yeah...but...there is a reason why we didn't do it too much and she won't get it fixed. I don't want to go into details."

And then Danielle filled in the blanks. And them Mo confirmed.

I wonder why Dani won't get it fixed. 

[Neurochick]

1 hour ago, steff13 said:

I was thinking this, too, and I'm not a Mohammed apologist, but I think Danielle brought it up first.  I think she said, "he thinks I smell," and he chimed in and agreed.  He may not have said anything if she hadn't brought it up.  Or, he may have because he's a douche.

I think Dani said Mohammad was going around I guess on SM, telling people that she smelled.  I just assumed the woman didn't bathe regularly or something. 

[DangerousMinds]

19 minutes ago, Virtually Me said:

I wonder why Dani won't get it fixed. 

No health insurance?

[Jennifersdc]

IMO - it's incredibly nasty of Paola to change her name back. If she wanted to keep it from Day One that's different. She's totally giving Russ the proverbial boot. He's just too dense to see it. I'd love to know how much money she's actually making modeling in Miami and if he's still supporting her somewhat. I assume she's thinking if the supermodel career doesn't work out she'll just find a sugar daddy in Miami. Why not? She's beautiful and still relatively young (unless you're a model).

And unlike Mo she doesn't have to worry about her green card. I used literal brain bleach on the speculation of Dani's "feminine issues". But not enough before I relayed to my husband - who may actually hate me now. BTW - who was conducting that interview the vapid host or Mel?

I vote Kyle and Noon as cutest couple. I now feel bad fast forwarding through a lot of their scenes due to my (probably needs professional treatment) addiction to train wreck. His Mom doesn't count. That's just sad.

[DangerousMinds]

3 minutes ago, Jennifersdc said:

IMO - it's incredibly nasty of Paola to change her name back. If she wanted to keep it from Day One that's different. She's totally giving Russ the proverbial boot. He's just too dense to see it. I'd love to know how much money she's actually making modeling in Miami and if he's still supporting her somewhat. I assume she's thinking if the supermodel career doesn't work out she'll just find a sugar daddy in Miami. Why not? She's beautiful and still relatively young (unless you're a model).

And unlike Mo she doesn't have to worry about her green card. I used literal brain bleach on the speculation of Dani's "feminine issues". But not enough before I relayed to my husband - who may actually hate me now. BTW - who was conducting that interview the vapid host or Mel?

I vote Kyle and Noon as cutest couple. I now feel bad fast forwarding through a lot of their scenes due to my (probably needs professional treatment) addiction to train wreck. His Mom doesn't count. That's just sad.

I don't know. I have no reason to assume that she'd be willing to whore herself out for money.

[gonecrackers]

I was really upset by the 'go girl' with Pao. Her face while her pics were being shown again - wow - she seriously loves the attention & is just sucking it up - at the expense of her husband's feelings. And changing her name back after the move to Miami without him is quite obvious in its offense. If she's so 'Colombian' she would have never changed it to start. He matters not one bit to her & she's breaking away, but she's ripping the band aid off in a slow, painful manner, instead of just saying right out she's 'done', since she does like to say that otherwise. I agree with another poster there is resentment there.

And everyone sitting there cheering her on was just sickening. I doubt very much any of them would appreciate that being done to them by their spouse & it would be very different if they were sitting in Russ' spot. But it's not them so hey, go totally disrespect your husband, act like a belligerent teenager, & throw away your marriage Pao - you 'go girl'!  holy crap

Melanie is just annoying with her tough girl act in this whole thing; the previews are disturbing - what is she going to do? Beat up Mo?  It's none of her business & she should just calm down; her reactions are over the top.

I would've liked to hear more from & about the other couples. The Dani & Mo show has taken over, & needs its own time slot to do 'he says, she says'. I could totally do without the other couples' opinions on them.

Edited November 11, 2016 by gonecrackers

[balisticnikki]

39 minutes ago, Virtually Me said:

I wonder why Dani won't get it fixed. 

It could be hemorrhoids...which can be hard to fix. sorry...ijs

[Arwen Evenstar]

29 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

No health insurance?

Even with health insurance, the copays, deductibles, and what specialists accept her insurance may still make her share of the  cost prohibitive or not give her access to specialists. Pelvic floor specialists or gynecological urology specialists are likely what she'd need and there may be none on her plan.

Edited November 8, 2016 by Arwen Evenstar
Additional

[Virtually Me]

Dani would qualify as indigent and be eligible for a government sponsored health program. She should look into that.

[Major Bigtime]

Sorry, wrong thread...

Edited November 8, 2016 by Major Bigtime

[Nowhere]

4 hours ago, Britty said:

Highly doubtful!  Beautiful women are everywhere in Miami.  Young, beautiful women who don't have harsh features, obvious plastic surgery, and wear cheap black wigs.  That "agency" referred her to a photographer and took a cut of that money (or was paid a finder's fee).  Then they wanted her to pay to sign with them so they could take 20% of any jobs she gets from them or on her own.  They are not legit. 

I can't get over everyone saying, "it's a job" when discussing Pao being photographed topless.  I mean, posing completely naked and spread for Hustler is a job.  Giving fully nude lap dances is a job.  Porn movies are jobs.  Is Russ supposed to be ok with her doing those things because they are "just jobs"?  Some people are and some aren't.  There's not a right or wrong answer.  It's a silly justification.  Pao wasn't showing anything, but it made Russ uncomfortable (for whatever reason: his parents' reaction, an unknown photographer on a public beach, her surprising him with it on camera).  Talk about it like the married adults you are and see if you can figure the situation out.  Pao's ridiculous behavior toward him is not helping. 

I've been wanting to say something similar. Whether or not the agency is legit, let's say it is for the sake of argument, Paola has no reason to talk about a modeling career because she doesn't have one. The agency referred her to a photographer because her original portfolio sucked and they couldn't represent her without seeing how she really photographs. She had to pay that photographer to take those pictures. It wasn't a job. The only person getting paid was the photographer. So it's really annoying to hear her talk about her "job" in Miami, when she didn't even have an agent yet. Her husband it supposed to turn down an interview in hopes that Pao gets a gig? What will they live on while she's waiting for the agency to find her a job? 

The other thing that really annoys me in this situation is that Russ didn't have a problem with her modeling lingerie or bikini. All he asked was that she not take off her top. I think that's a reasonable request. "He married a sexy Colombian. He knew what he was getting into." Really? Did she tell him she had ambition to be a topless model? And she did that for FREE. She paid the photographer to do that shoot. What lengths will she go to for a paycheck. And she told her parents Russ had a problem with lingerie. That was a lie. He even said the photos weren't as bad as he thought they would be, until he got to the topless ones. She told him she wouldn't do that and then she did anyway and lied to her parents about it, then they all proceeded to laugh at Russ.

 

As far as the agency is concerned, their purpose is to try to find her jobs so the fact that they agreed to represent her is still not a job. She keeps acting like she has a career in Miami but she has nothing. The agency will also send in their other clients photos for the same job. What are the chances of a 30 yr old getting the job over a younger model? Again the agency only cares that one of their models gets the job. They don't care which one. It's not like they'll have a stack of jobs just for Paola.