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2 minutes ago, QuinnInND said:

That pizza looks barf making. Izzy is adorable. 

Is it just me or is Pistol Pete kinda scary looking?  Aren't most school mascots sorta cartoon-like, even cute?  Of course, my alma mater's mascot is an animated horse chestnut, so maybe I don't know much about it.

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11 hours ago, Jeeves said:

Also, I don't know the U of A's policy, but I wouldn't be surprised if the email account is only going to be active while Derick is enrolled at the school, just as an employee email account is only active during one's employment. There may be some sort of courtesy "uark.edu" email address for graduates/alums; not sure how U of A handles that or if they do it at all.

 

Yes, you're right. It does expire after you graduate. I think it's technically supposed to expire about a semester after you're finished, but I kept mine an extra 2 years by continuing to update the password. (I was just curious to see how long I could get away with it.) The U of A finally got wise to my BS and shut down the account earlier this year.

The dean information in Derick's directory information is confusing. I was in grad school there from 2013-2015 and never remember seeing anything like that when I would check the directory. I just did some checking of the listing of people I know down there (not in law school), and no dean's information came up in their entries either. My curiosity is officially piqued!

Edited to add: If he received an assistantship, he would be listed as staff despite being a student. So, I don't think he is working in that office.

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My friend lived in married student housing at UNC, but there were a LOT of people from foreign countries there. Jill and Derick would have to readily accept that everyone would not be like them, and have their views. Otherwise, it would probably be a great idea! My friend's apartment was super nice. I still bet Jill would be through the roof happy if they could move back to the TTH and take grandma's bedroom, while the boys occupied the dorms. I wonder how they would explain the two mattresses in their room to JB and Michelle, though!

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You know, I don't think any of my graduate student classmates at the U of A lived in student housing. In fact, I never received any information on that, though I did at other universities I applied to. I had one student who did live in the student apartment and not a dorm, but the others, as far as I know, lived off-campus if they weren't in the dorms.

All things considered, rent is pretty cheap in the Fayetteville area and there is no shortage in places to rent, provided you don't wait until the last minute. There are also free bus routes that go directly to the university from most of the major apartment complexes. I had a super cheap apartment in a mildly sketchy but still perfectly safe part of town that was about $400 a month and was right on a bus route. Most of the folks I knew had bigger, nicer apartments, and they were maybe $600-700 a month. When I hear how much apartments cost in other places, I nearly faint. I strongly suspect it would probably be cheaper for them to live off-campus.

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1 hour ago, Christina87 said:

My friend lived in married student housing at UNC, but there were a LOT of people from foreign countries there. Jill and Derick would have to readily accept that everyone would not be like them, and have their views. Otherwise, it would probably be a great idea! My friend's apartment was super nice. I still bet Jill would be through the roof happy if they could move back to the TTH and take grandma's bedroom, while the boys occupied the dorms. I wonder how they would explain the two mattresses in their room to JB and Michelle, though!

I wonder if the two mattresses were for Jill and Derdick, or if Izzy was bunking in their room?  Did Jill comfirm the Lucy/Ricky sleeping arrangement?

ETA: Maybe Jill and Derdick don’t have to move. Cross Church may have an agreement or contract with a local complex, but they may not own the complex, so the Dullards may be able to switch over the lease and stay.  

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To comment on the video of Izzy in the pool: Did anyone else notice how when Jill panned over to Dan, he took his towel off to reveal that he was not wearing a shirt, and then Jill IMMEDIATELY zoomed out and away from Dan! How defrauding! 

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42 minutes ago, Ijustwantsomechips said:

I wonder if the two mattresses were for Jill and Derdick, or if Izzy was bunking in their room?  Did Jill comfirm the Lucy/Ricky sleeping arrangement?

ETA: Maybe Jill and Derdick don’t have to move. Cross Church may have an agreement or contract with a local complex, but they may not own the complex, so the Dullards may be able to switch over the lease and stay.  

I'm about 99% sure that Cross Church owns the little neighborhood of duplexes where the Dullards have lived this past year. I suppose they could stay put but start paying rent. 

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5 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

Poor Izzy.  That doesn't look fun at all.  Why isn't Dreck playing with him?  They are such nut jobs.  

I thought same thing about Derelict barely paying any attention to Izzy.  Poor Izzy just seems to float away to the other side of the pool all alone. Isn't it natural as a mother or father, you would swim over behind him & play with him?  All this little guy needs is some attention from his parents.  It seems he's always trying to please them. 

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On 8/9/2018 at 10:23 PM, Heathen said:

I doubt Cathy has that kind of money available. It has to be federal student loans or Jim Bob student loans. ("I'll pay for you to become a lawyer, then you work for me until the end of time.") 

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I just can’t quote properly tonight....

But I have questions. Did Derjerk do well enough on his LSAT’s so he got accepted? How? 

Maybe he studied at Cross Church for peace and quiet.  But wow. That time “alone” is over now.

Does he even understand that there are study groups he should attend that may include women? At odd hours?

How do they not expect this to be mentioned on the show? Is this a possible beginning of a redemption arc to get him accepted?

Most universities keep a very close eye on prospective student’s social media accounts.  High school kids that are looking for colleges are constantly warned about the content of their social media. I hear (but I haven’t looked at his twitter) but I hear he made it private. Even so, there are plenty of articles out there that are pretty damning.

Nevermind Jill. But does he understand how near to impossible it is to study with toddlers in the house that have missed him when he was gone? At least I think they will notice his absence.  He’ll have to go somewhere quiet to study. What wis Jill going do, go with him to the library where there are girls for the next 3 years and constantly bug him?

What happens to Jill now? Her headship has a new priority that will not allow him to spend time to attend Dugger functions.

Lawyer professor are know to come down very hard and sometimes embarrass students that are not prepared for class.

Maybe they they just think it is classes and he is done.  But as we all know, the real work starts after class. Studying, research, and massive prep for the next class. 

Why has there been no twitter-Insta bragging about his acceptance?

To me this sounds like a massive recipe for disaster. When he comes home, Jill will probably think his school day is over.when he comes home and she can have his attention, like when he worked. I smell serious trouble brewing.

Most law schools don’t allow study online because the class involvement is needed. I could be wring

Still, to me, something about this whole situation doesn’t add up.

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Cathy worked at Walmart Corporate for twenty years, starting in accounting, finishing as an inventory director, and then left to become a consultant for Walmart suppliers, which she’s been doing for the last ten years. Her late husband would’ve had a generous life insurance pay out. I think she’s pretty flush, and Cathy paying Derick’s bills would explain his lifestyle. 

I think Derick is actually quite intelligent. If he puts his mind to it, he’s going to end up graduating from law school. 

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5 minutes ago, kokapetl said:

Cathy worked at Walmart Corporate for twenty years, starting in accounting, finishing as an inventory director, and then left to become a consultant for Walmart suppliers, which she’s been doing for the last ten years. Her late husband would’ve had a generous life insurance pay out. I think she’s pretty flush, and Cathy paying Derick’s bills would explain his lifestyle. 

I think Derick is actually quite intelligent. If he puts his mind to it, he’s going to end up graduating from law school. 

Cathy had bills to pay all those years and for a few years she was a single parent. I don't think Cathy is hurting for money, but I don't think she has enough disposable income to support a family of four. She also must of had sizable medical bills even with good insurance because cancer isn't cheap and she was out of work during that time as well.

I bet she helps them out with clothing for the kids and diapers here and there, but I don't think she's their sole source of income.

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1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

Cathy had bills to pay all those years and for a few years she was a single parent. I don't think Cathy is hurting for money, but I don't think she has enough disposable income to support a family of four. She also must of had sizable medical bills even with good insurance because cancer isn't cheap and she was out of work during that time as well.

I bet she helps them out with clothing for the kids and diapers here and there, but I don't think she's their sole source of income.

I think Derick’s brother was maybe 16 or 17 when the dad died, and Derick was in university, so not exactly the most inconvenient time to become a single parent. Along with the cop life insurance payout, Cathy would have received his 20 years worth of pension contributions of some form of lump sum payment, right? Cathy appears to a live a pretty modest lifestyle, and so does Derick and his family. 

I’m not saying Cathy should be paying some or all of Derick’s bills, I just think she is. 

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3 hours ago, kokapetl said:

I think Derick’s brother was maybe 16 or 17 when the dad died, and Derick was in university, so not exactly the most inconvenient time to become a single parent. Along with the cop life insurance payout, Cathy would have received his 20 years worth of pension contributions of some form of lump sum payment, right? Cathy appears to a live a pretty modest lifestyle, and so does Derick and his family. 

I’m not saying Cathy should be paying some or all of Derick’s bills, I just think she is. 

Cathy might not be able to collect his pension until she is of retirement age. 

BUT people forget Cathy has married again- it’s very possible her husband is supporting their household (especially the cultural milieu they live in) and all of Cathy’s income is gravy to spend as she wishes. 

I most certainly think Cathy is contributing HEAVILY to Derrick’s life style- completely maybe not, but I can see him swinging it financially between her and student loans- the law school isn’t that expensive and they live in AR. Kids are expensive but at this age (unless you have to pay for childcare) they are the cheapest they will ever be. 

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Maybe he isn’t posting on sm about “graduating” from cross church’s “ministry program” and his acceptance to law school because he’s holding out hope for a People magazine exclusive?   He really is that delusional.   It’s the only explanation I can come up with. 

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I remember when the Dullards were getting ready to leave Danger America. Jill was on the phone with Cathy hashing out the details and she says "Well, we really don't have any toys...." and trails off, to which Cathy responded immediately that she'd go out and buy some. I thought that was pretty brazen of Jill considering they had both show and donation money at the time.

I don't know whether Cathy is paying tuition, but I absolutely believe she's subsidizing them far beyond doing typical grandparent stuff. 

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A comment on the fireworks video:

 

It was an awesome night! David Dunn was awesome and so were the fireworks! I heard them announce Israel's name for winning the first game prize!! My son won that when he was little too!

 

I wonder what he won.

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Given his poor writing skills, law school is going to be very difficult for him. Professors aren’t going to have patience for incoherent ramblings and siting (God, 000001 B.C) as his supporting research isn’t going to fly nor is any religious texts. I’m sure he had to write some scholarly papers for his undergrad, but not near the levelof depth and complexity law school will require.  

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I wonder if Derick is part of the subset of evangelicals called dominionists. Many of them believe that they need to take over all the institutions of America (education, family, government, etc.) so they will have the power to promote the "right" kind of Christianity (think The Handmaid's Tale) and bring on the return of Christ. If this is so, and it's pure speculation, a sympathetic organization may be sponsoring his law school foray. Personally I wouldn't sink a cent into either of the Dullards, not exactly proven winners, but someone is paying this law school tuition. 

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42 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

A comment on the fireworks video:

 

It was an awesome night! David Dunn was awesome and so were the fireworks! I heard them announce Israel's name for winning the first game prize!! My son won that when he was little too!

 

I wonder what he won.

Too bad it wasn't a set of new parents.

How on earth did that little manipulator finagle to win first prize?

Poor little Izzy.

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25 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

I wonder if Derick is part of the subset of evangelicals called dominionists.

I'm fairly certain the Duggars are dominionists since they're part of the Quiverfull movement. They are pretty shady about it publicly and refuse to admit it out loud but considering the company they keep, the politicians they back and the way Boob and Mechelle have been breeding their army for Jesus, it's a given IMO. I have no idea whether Cathy's brand of crazy involves dominionsm but it wouldn't surprise me and if not I think Derrick has gone down the Duggar rabbit hole and adopted a lot of their beliefs even if he didn't have them before.

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45 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

I wonder if Derick is part of the subset of evangelicals called dominionists. Many of them believe that they need to take over all the institutions of America (education, family, government, etc.) so they will have the power to promote the "right" kind of Christianity (think The Handmaid's Tale) and bring on the return of Christ. If this is so, and it's pure speculation, a sympathetic organization may be sponsoring his law school foray. Personally I wouldn't sink a cent into either of the Dullards, not exactly proven winners, but someone is paying this law school tuition. 

He could be into that, but I can't see an organization with that agenda, thinking he'd be a great person to sponsor for law school. He's already got a lot of public baggage, he doesn't have a clean-cut wholesome look, he's bounced around in different career directions since college, and he's displayed a proclivity for starting stupid Twitter wars, plus he's Josh Duggar's brother-in-law. I'm sure they'd rather underwrite a wholesome young guy with a track record of leadership in Christian/conservative political circles - and no baggage like Derick's. 

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57 minutes ago, BradandJanet said:

I wonder if Derick is part of the subset of evangelicals called dominionists. Many of them believe that they need to take over all the institutions of America (education, family, government, etc.) so they will have the power to promote the "right" kind of Christianity (think The Handmaid's Tale) and bring on the return of Christ. If this is so, and it's pure speculation, a sympathetic organization may be sponsoring his law school foray. Personally I wouldn't sink a cent into either of the Dullards, not exactly proven winners, but someone is paying this law school tuition. 

I think he is as well.  I know part of the dominionist dogma is the need for the Jews to have full control over Jerusalem, hence their full support of Israel.  Derrick did not name his firstborn son Israel David on a whim.

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20 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

He could be into that, but I can't see an organization with that agenda, thinking he'd be a great person to sponsor for law school. He's already got a lot of public baggage, he doesn't have a clean-cut wholesome look, he's bounced around in different career directions since college, and he's displayed a proclivity for starting stupid Twitter wars, plus he's Josh Duggar's brother-in-law. I'm sure they'd rather underwrite a wholesome young guy with a track record of leadership in Christian/conservative political circles - and no baggage like Derick's. 

Speaking of Smuggly Do Wrong, I wonder how he is handling the fact Deredick is going off to law school, and he is not. Of course, the chances of Deredick crashing and burning in law school is great, but I bet Joshy Boy might be pissed off.

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9 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

He could be into that, but I can't see an organization with that agenda, thinking he'd be a great person to sponsor for law school. He's already got a lot of public baggage, he doesn't have a clean-cut wholesome look, he's bounced around in different career directions since college, and he's displayed a proclivity for starting stupid Twitter wars, plus he's Josh Duggar's brother-in-law. I'm sure they'd rather underwrite a wholesome young guy with a track record of leadership in Christian/conservative political circles - and no baggage like Derick's. 

True about Derick's considerable baggage, including, ouch, Jill, but there are subsets of dominionists, who have different views. Maybe Derick looks like a good fish in one very small pond.  

I can't see JB paying for this or approving of the Dullards going into debt, which comes due whether Derick becomes a real lawyer or not. They may already be in hock for hospital expenses for the birth of the baby TLC wouldn't cover. Can't some rag get on top of this story?

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I would be surprised if an organization is sponsoring Derick. Before I went to the U of A for grad school, I attended a fairly fundamentalist Christian college. There was no shortage of outwardly wholesome young men there who would have been much better candidates for going to law school and then being tapped to work for a Christian organization. And I don't think my college was unique in that regard, as far as Christian colleges go.

Not to say that those guys weren't assholes. Every single one I can think of was absolutely unbearable and insufferable once you got to know them, but they had a much more instinctive grasp of appearance and persona than Derick seems to possess. They were also much more focused and driven. I can't see any of them floundering around with their futures quite like Derick has.

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1 hour ago, Trillium said:

Given his poor writing skills, law school is going to be very difficult for him. Professors aren’t going to have patience for incoherent ramblings and siting (God, 000001 B.C) as his supporting research isn’t going to fly nor is any religious texts. I’m sure he had to write some scholarly papers for his undergrad, but not near the levelof depth and complexity law school will require.  

I agree - he hasn't displayed very good writing skills in his online postings. His blog posts were really heavy on the Jesus-y religious jargon and the more sermon-y ones were IMO not easy to understand. 

However, students become 1Ls to learn how to write like lawyers, and cite like lawyers. They don't have those skills when they start. Derick may be able to master them.

I'm not sure that he had to write "scholarly papers" as an undergrad working for an accounting degree at a large state university, or that he had many essay exams calling for sound analysis and the ability to express the analysis cogently in writing.

I went to law school long ago when dirt was young and mastodons roamed the earth. Back then, my undergrad experience at a small university, involving lots of essay exams and papers, served me well as a 1L. Many of my classmates - not stupid people - who'd earned degrees from larger state universities, simply hadn't had the experience of writing those essay exams and papers, to any degree approaching mine. Especially those with degrees in "hard" subjects like accounting and business (vs. liberal arts, history, etc.) Many of them struggled at first because they lacked that amount of writing experience. OTOH, maybe big universities are requiring more essay exams and scholarly papers these days, so Derick had a lot of writing as an undergrad. 

Based on what I've seen of his writing, I don't know that Derick's ever had any really good instruction in how to write well. As a 1L, he will be reading and analyzing dozens of cases a week, so will be immersed in legal analysis and writing (good and bad). If he's at all open to what he'll be reading, he could develop the analytic writing skills necessary to survive law school. 

BTW, the Dean of the U of Arkansas Law School is a woman. There are several women law professors there. If Derick had trouble relating to women in the workplace at Walmart, as has been rumored? He's going to need an attitude adjustment ASAP as a law student. Or maybe he's already adjusted his attitude and will behave appropriately. Just wondering.

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2 hours ago, Jeeves said:

I agree - he hasn't displayed very good writing skills in his online postings. His blog posts were really heavy on the Jesus-y religious jargon and the more sermon-y ones were IMO not easy to understand. 

However, students become 1Ls to learn how to write like lawyers, and cite like lawyers. They don't have those skills when they start. Derick may be able to master them.

I'm not sure that he had to write "scholarly papers" as an undergrad working for an accounting degree at a large state university, or that he had many essay exams calling for sound analysis and the ability to express the analysis cogently in writing.

I went to law school long ago when dirt was young and mastodons roamed the earth. Back then, my undergrad experience at a small university, involving lots of essay exams and papers, served me well as a 1L. Many of my classmates - not stupid people - who'd earned degrees from larger state universities, simply hadn't had the experience of writing those essay exams and papers, to any degree approaching mine. Especially those with degrees in "hard" subjects like accounting and business (vs. liberal arts, history, etc.) Many of them struggled at first because they lacked that amount of writing experience. OTOH, maybe big universities are requiring more essay exams and scholarly papers these days, so Derick had a lot of writing as an undergrad. 

Based on what I've seen of his writing, I don't know that Derick's ever had any really good instruction in how to write well. As a 1L, he will be reading and analyzing dozens of cases a week, so will be immersed in legal analysis and writing (good and bad). If he's at all open to what he'll be reading, he could develop the analytic writing skills necessary to survive law school. 

BTW, the Dean of the U of Arkansas Law School is a woman. There are several women law professors there. If Derick had trouble relating to women in the workplace at Walmart, as has been rumored? He's going to need an attitude adjustment ASAP as a law student. Or maybe he's already adjusted his attitude and will behave appropriately. Just wondering.

I was a finance major for undergrad and did have to take some basic writing classes for the gen ed requirements. But definitely very basic research papers and not very lengthy.  When I went to grad school, the amount of writing was about 10x the length of anything I had to write before. Thankfully I was always a good writer and my thesis chairperson was amazing. Between studiying for exams and all the research  and writing he’s going to  be doing, he’s never going to see his family. I don’t see Jill being prepared for that at all, she’s never real  experienced education at any level. 

 

Derick probably thinks it’s going to be the male version of Legally Blonde where the intrepid unconventional student dazzles the old stuffy professors  with their brilliance.  Because Jesus. 

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2 minutes ago, Trillium said:

I was a finance major for undergrad and did have to take some basic writing glasses for the gen ed requirements. But definitely very basic research papers and not very lengthy.  When I went to grad school, the amount of writing was about 10x the length of anything I had to write before. Thankfully I was always a good writer and my thesis chairperson was amazing. Between studiying for exams and all the research  and writing he’s going to  be doing, he’s never going to see his family. I don’t see Jill being prepared for that at all, she’s never real  experienced education at any level. 

Derick probably thinks it’s going to be the male version of Legally Blonde where the intrepid unconventional student dazzles the old stuffy professors  with their brilliance.  Because Jesus. 

That's hilarious, and probably true! LOLz! Except now I've got this mental picture of Derick in a blonde wig with his manly dark-hued face stubble. Brain bleach needed, stat.

Thanks for the info on undergrad writing experiences. As I said, my experience as a 1L was long ago, and as I'm not in academia I'm not up on what's being required these days. Which can vary from school to school anyway, I suppose. 

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Lack of Quality Jill Time is probably fine with Derick. His social life won’t suffer, he doesn’t have one.  

Derick gained admission fair and square. He sat the LSAT and provided his academic transcript and the public university admissions people said yes. I think he's quite aware how tertiary education works. 

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2 minutes ago, kokapetl said:

Lack of Quality Jill Time is probably fine with Derick. His social life won’t suffer, he doesn’t have one.  

Derick gained admission fair and square. He sat the LSAT and provided his academic transcript and the public university admissions people said yes. I think he's quite aware how tertiary education works. 

I know I should not laugh at the two sentences, but I cannot help myself. I wonder if the school really want him there, or they wanted him there because they are desperate or thought he could be a different type of student which could make them look good aka a young married man with two children. A lot of schools like getting non traditional type students.

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Derelict has a disturbing history of insisting something is true despite all evidence to the contrary. For example, the 'a hospital birth was always the plan' debacle. Dumbass, we have you and Clingy on video multiple times stating the exact opposite.

I can't decide whether he really thinks he's fooling people or if he is so delusional that he believes something magically becomes truth bc he says it is so. At any rate, his attemps to confuse the issue at hand and play on semantics is pathetic.

I hope he gets eaten alive in law school.

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17 hours ago, doodlebug said:

Is it just me or is Pistol Pete kinda scary looking?  Aren't most school mascots sorta cartoon-like, even cute?  Of course, my alma mater's mascot is an animated horse chestnut, so maybe I don't know much about it.

The head just looks cheap, like they couldn’t afford fabric or foam, just shiny fiberglass.

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I have an undergrad degree in Journalism and needed to learn how to write like an attorney the minute I entered law school. 

As a first year law student Derrick will be prepping case studies for class. You never know when you will be called on. IRAC Derrick! 

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Out of left field here.........

Three of my grandchildren are in the same school district my children attended. They have kept the practice of using writing as part of every subject, gym and music included. I have found it to be a very positive thing.

 

There are many professions that require different types of writing. With nursing as an example, everything  written must be objective, no opinions, just statements, and in some instances suggestions for correction. There are guidelines, and it can be a major problem if not written correctly.

I think Derick will adapt to most of what he needs to do. I still think his biggest obstacle will be Jill. I don’t care for Derick in the least, but I actually hope he does well.

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18 hours ago, doodlebug said:

Is it just me or is Pistol Pete kinda scary looking?  Aren't most school mascots sorta cartoon-like, even cute?  Of course, my alma mater's mascot is an animated horse chestnut, so maybe I don't know much about it.

Pistol Pete kinda looks like Burt Reynolds to me, no?

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I bet, in true Duggar form, they aren't going to pack anything until the day they move and then call in everyone, family and friends, to just take it all over to the new student housing.  I mean even JinJer didn't have things in boxes when the family helped them move into the new house.  I would have had everything boxed, labeled and ready to load into a truck, followed by beer and pizza once it was unloaded, but that's just me.

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Derelict's orientation begins on Monday. If they do have to move, they're cutting it VERY close. Or, they moved earlier this past week when there was radio silence untill Jill put up that blog post Thursday (?). 

It's still noteworthy that no mention has been made of Derelict's accomplishments. 

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