Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[oliviabenson]

27 minutes ago, Tdoc72 said:

My plan is to read it at the Barnes&Noble. That’s what I did w/Jinger’s. 

Great plan!

[Panopticon]

On 8/25/2023 at 5:24 PM, sagittarius sue said:

My county library has it on order with 26 holds already.  I checked up on Jinger's book, and it appears to be fairly popular.  I think SHP has a lot to do with interest in these books.

23 holds for the ebook at my library, and even more for the audio version. I was a little surprised, but now I think you’re right— SHP is having an effect. 

[GeeGolly]

All this talk about Jill and Jinger's books is leaving me with all kinds of questions. I assume since the advent of ebooks library use has increased. Do authors get royalties of sorts from library 'reads'? Can and do publishers limit the amount of copies sold to libraries?

I know plenty of folks still like to read and own actual books, but I'm guessing books from D list celebrities isn't high on that list.

It makes be think of all the hoopla back in the day of, uhm, can't remember, maybe Limewire or Napster in regard to music.

Obviously libraries and sharing books have been around forever, but I never thought much about this in regard to an author's profit.

[satrunrose]

I think the difference between library ebooks and Napster is that with file sharing you could get music instantaneously as well as keep the stuff you downloaded and do what you wished with it (ah, the mix cd). A library ebook deletes itself off of your device at the end of the loan period  and you have to wait in line for it just like a paper book. I would image that if libraries ceased to be some people would spend the money to buy Jill's book but a lot wouldn't bother. Plus, there are always people (me!) who like to re-read and might buy the book if they enjoyed the loan copy.

 

[Minivanessa]

4 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

All this talk about Jill and Jinger's books is leaving me with all kinds of questions. I assume since the advent of ebooks library use has increased. Do authors get royalties of sorts from library 'reads'? Can and do publishers limit the amount of copies sold to libraries?

Taking this to Small Talk.

[LilJen]

On 8/24/2023 at 9:25 PM, andromeda331 said:

Like pizza without hair, germs or feet.

As always with this family, the bar for adequacy is low…

[Heathen]

On 8/25/2023 at 5:24 PM, sagittarius sue said:

My county library has it on order with 26 holds already.  I checked up on Jinger's book, and it appears to be fairly popular.  I think SHP has a lot to do with interest in these books.

My library co-op doesn't even have it listed already. I emailed my library to see if they were planning to order it. 

[SnapHappy]

Interesting....

10 days before Jinger's book was released, she was doing a PEOPLE magazine multi-page photo shoot, commenting on their podcast, then flying to New York to be interviewed on the Tamron Hall show and featured on "Good Morning America" and "Nightline". 

10 days before Derrick's book is released.......*crickets*

Edited August 30, 2023 by SnapHappy

[Salacious Kitty]

39 minutes ago, SnapHappy said:

Interesting....

10 days before Jinger's book was released, she was doing a PEOPLE magazine multi-page photo shoot, commenting on their podcast, then flying to New York to be interviewed on the Tamron Hall show and featured on "Good Morning America" and "Nightline". 

10 days before Derrick's book is released.......*crickets*

Jinger had a better agent. I can't believe that Jill is voluntarily eschewing interviews. Especially given that they are selling this as a tell all 

[GeeGolly]

19 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Jinger had a better agent. I can't believe that Jill is voluntarily eschewing interviews. Especially given that they are selling this as a tell all 

Well she is posting about simultaneously drinking cups of tea, water and coffee while pushing her book. Surely that's equivalent to a live interview. 😁

[SMama]

It could be that Derick, unlike Reverend Rad Homie, has a job that does not afford him the opportunity to gallivant like when he worked at Walmart. Jill could do remote interviews evenings and weekends. She could do them alone, but she is still Jilly Clingy.

[quarks]

Book tours/interviews are usually set up by the publisher, not the agent.

In this particular situation, it is more than relevant that Jill's publisher, Gallery Books, is an imprint of Simon & Schuster, which Paramount just been sold to KKR, a private equity firm best known for destroying Toys R' Us.

Even prior to the sale, the major publishers in general and Paramount/Simon & Schuster in particular were demanding cutbacks in multiple areas, including marketing; post sale, multiple authors across genres have reported that their marketing/promo for upcoming releases is now close to non-existent. 

So I don't think any of this is on Jill, or has anything to do with her relationship with Derick. 

With all that said, it's also very possible that she does have a number of upcoming gigs to promote the book that just haven't been announced yet. That's certainly been true for other celebrity bios.

[lascuba]

16 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Jinger had a better agent. I can't believe that Jill is voluntarily eschewing interviews. Especially given that they are selling this as a tell all 

It seems that Jill's agent's/publisher's sole marketing idea was to have her publish under the Duggar name instead of Dillard. Which, don't get me wrong, is a solid idea, but shouldn't be the only one.

[oliviabenson]

Yay! My local library ordered it! 

I just have to put it on hold. 

[BetyBee]

Let us know when you get your copy, @oliviabenson! I know you'll give us the deets on Jill & Derick's take on all things Duggar.

[GeeGolly]

Apparently one of Jill and Derick's virtual interviews is going to be livestreamed on their FB page.

[Stevie Nicks]

Man those awkward kisses with these two. 

[satrunrose]

With all of the whirlwind changes of life, it's nice to see that the Dillard's awkward kissing pics stay the same.

[oliviabenson]

https://people.com/jill-duggar-dillard-family-reality-shows-nearly-tore-marriage-apart-derick-dillard-exclusive-7965800

[quarks]

From the article:

Quote

In a statement to PEOPLE, Jim Bob and wife Michelle Duggar say: "We love all of our children very much. As with any family, few things are more painful than conflicts or problems among those you love... We do not believe the best way to resolve conflicts, facilitate forgiveness and reconciliation, or to communicate through difficulties is through the media or in a public forum so we will not comment."

Where, where to begin?

1. This is a comment, JB and Michelle. You cannot end a comment that criticizes your daughter and son-in-law for using a public forum to criticize you by saying that you won't comment. Geesh.

2. You chose to put your family on a national television show, a show where you regularly forced your children to resolve conflicts, facilitate forgiveness and reconciliation, and communicate through difficulties in front of television cameras to be watched and snarked on by millions of complete strangers. And you did this for money. Worse, you knew damn well that your son had molested his sisters, that his sisters - your daughters - did not want this information to be public, and that by going on a television show, you vastly increased the chances that this information would go public and hurt your daughters.

3. You made money by having your kids sell their wedding/birth announcements to People.

4. And now you have the unmitigated gall to critique Jill for talking to People?  

[Tigregirl]

48 minutes ago, quarks said:

From the article:

Where, where to begin?

1. This is a comment, JB and Michelle. You cannot end a comment that criticizes your daughter and son-in-law for using a public forum to criticize you by saying that you won't comment. Geesh.

2. You chose to put your family on a national television show, a show where you regularly forced your children to resolve conflicts, facilitate forgiveness and reconciliation, and communicate through difficulties in front of television cameras to be watched and snarked on by millions of complete strangers. And you did this for money. Worse, you knew damn well that your son had molested his sisters, that his sisters - your daughters - did not want this information to be public, and that by going on a television show, you vastly increased the chances that this information would go public and hurt your daughters.

3. You made money by having your kids sell their wedding/birth announcements to People.

4. And now you have the unmitigated gall to critique Jill for talking to People?  

This is perfect.  I wish JBoob and Meech would read it.  Hypocrites.

[Trillium]

Fuck all the way off, Jim Bob. 

 

[BetyBee]

1 hour ago, quarks said:

From the article:

Where, where to begin?

1. This is a comment, JB and Michelle. You cannot end a comment that criticizes your daughter and son-in-law for using a public forum to criticize you by saying that you won't comment. Geesh.

2. You chose to put your family on a national television show, a show where you regularly forced your children to resolve conflicts, facilitate forgiveness and reconciliation, and communicate through difficulties in front of television cameras to be watched and snarked on by millions of complete strangers. And you did this for money. Worse, you knew damn well that your son had molested his sisters, that his sisters - your daughters - did not want this information to be public, and that by going on a television show, you vastly increased the chances that this information would go public and hurt your daughters.

3. You made money by having your kids sell their wedding/birth announcements to People.

4. And now you have the unmitigated gall to critique Jill for talking to People?  

Perfectly stated! The "high road" JBoob & MEchelle think they are on, is as fake as everything else about them!

[libgirl2]

3 hours ago, BetyBee said:

Perfectly stated! The "high road" JBoob & MEchelle think they are on, is as fake as everything else about them!

Those two are a real piece of work. They exploited there kids on TV! 

[oliviabenson]

https://people.com/jill-duggar-dillard-only-made-175k-for-her-reality-shows-exclusive-7965739

[galaxygirl76]

6 hours ago, Trillium said:

Fuck all the way off, Jim Bob. 

 

And when you get there, fuck off some more.

[auntieminem]

Jill is promoting her book on IG and FB. She and Derick made a trip to NY to the publishers and got to see the book, not sure what else they were doing in NY but a friend came with them to help with the baby. She posted a story on IG showing the ghost writer opening his box with copies of the book. It was part of an IG post made  https://www.instagram.com/p/Cw5vglOr4VS/  I wonder when Jinger is going promote Jill's book like Jill did hers. 

[Salacious Kitty]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

There will be no promotion from any Duggar not named Famy.

Edited September 8, 2023 by Salacious Kitty
Autofill strikes again!

[Twopper]

On 9/6/2023 at 8:57 AM, oliviabenson said:

https://people.com/jill-duggar-dillard-family-reality-shows-nearly-tore-marriage-apart-derick-dillard-exclusive-7965800

This article made me even more disgusted with JB, which is quite remarkable as I was already appalled by him. I thought he raised his girls to respect the “headship” of their husbands, but I guess that only applies if the husband wants them to obey their dear old dad JB. 

[andromeda331]

1 hour ago, Twopper said:

This article made me even more disgusted with JB, which is quite remarkable as I was already appalled by him. I thought he raised his girls to respect the “headship” of their husbands, but I guess that only applies if the husband wants them to obey their dear old dad JB. 

Yeah, the husbands are suppose to obey JB too.

[GeeGolly]

What a horrible position Jill was put in. It must have been torture for her. What's sad is neither of her headships would compromise on her behalf. And Michelle - what was she doing, feeding JB lines and then offering comfort to Jill?

I really wish Derick was a good guy, so then I could be 100% happy for Jill, but Derick has shown everyone how awful and ugly he is. However I guess if Jill and most of her siblings grew up happy under the thumb of JB&M, Jill can likely be happy under Derick's rule.

Lets hope Jill can soon make the connection enforcing instant obedience in kids implicitly teaches them to have unquestioning respect of authority as adults, so she will stop the cycle with her own kids. 

[SnapHappy]

12 hours ago, auntieminem said:

 I wonder when Jinger is going promote Jill's book like Jill did hers. 

Jinger's book was primarily about her relationship with God.  She said very little about her family, but did bash the religion her parents adopted, then raised them in.  She may show support, but she doesn't owe it to Jill in a tit-for-tat.  

Derrick's book is a hatchet job on everything and everyone.  It's vengeance on Jim Bob, pure & simple.  I doubt many of the family will do more than possibly praise Jill for being "strong" and "facing adversity". 

If they even do that. 

Edited September 8, 2023 by SnapHappy

[oliviabenson]

I need my own plate with my food in it. I can’t share like that lol! 

[Natalie68]

5 minutes ago, oliviabenson said:

I need my own plate with my food in it. I can’t share like that lol! 

Same plate and I will just assume both are mine!

[BetyBee]

I'm a little concerned that Jill and Derick are sitting across from one another, rather than side by side. I hope there's not trouble in paradise!

[oliviabenson]

36 minutes ago, BetyBee said:

I'm a little concerned that Jill and Derick are sitting across from one another, rather than side by side. I hope there's not trouble in paradise!

With their passionless kissing? You don’t say! 
 

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[AstridM]

3 hours ago, SnapHappy said:

Jinger's book was primarily about her relationship with God.  She said very little about her family, but did bash the religion her parents adopted, then raised them in.  She may show support, but she doesn't owe it to Jill in a tit-for-tat.  

Derrick's book is a hatchet job on everything and everyone.  It's vengeance on Jim Bob, pure & simple.  I doubt many of the family will do more than possibly praise Jill for being "strong" and "facing adversity". 

If they even do that. 

Have you already read Jill’s book?

[Natalie68]

34 minutes ago, AstridM said:

Have you already read Jill’s book?

I am a little embarrassed to admit this but I may be using one of my bday gift cards with Amazon to get her book.  DON'T TELL ANYONE!!!  HA!

[Salacious Kitty]

3 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

I am a little embarrassed to admit this but I may be using one of my bday gift cards with Amazon to get her book.  DON'T TELL ANYONE!!!  HA!

Same. 😀

[libgirl2]

1 hour ago, Natalie68 said:

I am a little embarrassed to admit this but I may be using one of my bday gift cards with Amazon to get her book.  DON'T TELL ANYONE!!!  HA!

I have a $25 gift card from Barnes and Noble because I have their credit card and spent a certain amount..... now I'm tempted. 

ETA, it is $28.99 and I would have to pay shipping, so I think I'll wait on the library copy. 

Edited September 8, 2023 by libgirl2

[Absolom]

I'm first in line at the library when it's released.

[libgirl2]

1 minute ago, Absolom said:

I'm first in line at the library when it's released.

I'm 6th. Interesting that the first person is our library director's wife who is also a library director (and one of my former managers). I'll have to reach out to her. I know she likes gossipy things like this. 

[babyhouseman]

5 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

With their passionless kissing? You don’t say! 
 

🤣🤣🤣🤣

But they're supposed to show PDA like Jim Boob and Michelle to show what a hot couple they are!

[MsJamieDornan]

13 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

I am a little embarrassed to admit this but I may be using one of my bday gift cards with Amazon to get her book.  DON'T TELL ANYONE!!!  HA!

I think I will use the free audible book they keep offering from Amazon !  Sshhh !

On 9/6/2023 at 6:03 PM, galaxygirl76 said:

And when you get there, fuck off some more.

He's just a big piece of shit.

[Salacious Kitty]

That's an insult to shit. 😀

[ginger90]

An excerpt from the book:

 

https://people.com/jill-duggar-counting-the-cost-exclusive-excerpt-7967734

 

 

[Panopticon]

A J’Slave looking Jim Bob in the face and saying “you treat me worse than you treat my pedophile brother?”

Damn. Quite a journey from keeping sweet to THAT.

[Trillium]

21 minutes ago, Panopticon said:

A J’Slave looking Jim Bob in the face and saying “you treat me worse than you treat my pedophile brother?”

Damn. Quite a journey from keeping sweet to THAT.

And she’s not wrong. Jim Bob only gave any fucks about Jill when she could earn him money. He didn’t care when she tried to tell him about Josh. And he has audacity to demand she apologize the them? Oh fuck that. 
 

I know she loves them and probably wants more than anything for them to admit they were wrong, but she’ll never get it. 

[Salacious Kitty]

Typical JB dick move, trying to guilt Jill into making her think this was all her fault. 

Utterly despicable man. 

[GeeGolly]

I'm kind of speechless. Way to go Jill!

Anyone else feel a little like, I don't know, maybe intrusive or invasive? I mean I know Jill is sharing all this, but its hitting me weirdly.