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Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!


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Shout out to everyone participating in the conversation about Jill’s miscarriage/stillbirth. You’re navigating a difficult topic with respect and thoughtfulness and your contributions are kind, considerate, constructive and informative. 

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3 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

So she will be home AT LEAST three months for the birth, and probably much longer! It is so ridiculous that she expects others to fund her lifestyle all that time! I could almost see like a month tops, but Jilly will be home an eternity!

If you figure three months before birth, and probably another four-ish afterwards, that's over half a year away from the mission field. But, donate....

Apparently Derelict is incapable of getting any form of job during this time. 

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In the last blog, Jill gave "early July" as her due date. So, around 6-8 more weeks, then I imagine 4 months or so post-birth. I don't, I think they took Izzy down there until he was 3-4 months.

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37 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

If you figure three months before birth, and probably another four-ish afterwards, that's over half a year away from the mission field. But, donate....

Apparently Derelict is incapable of getting any form of job during this time. 

Arkansas has poor people and lots of Catholics (and they speak English!) so what's stopping them from doing the same mission "work" at home?

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1 hour ago, DangerousMinds said:

Arkansas has poor people and lots of Catholics (and they speak English!) so what's stopping them from doing the same mission "work" at home?

They speak English. 

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20 hours ago, Annb67 said:

Hmmm..Duggar family bday greetings are different than ours. I would love for  a Duggar to say "Happy Birthday you old shit. Can't wait to celebrate BIG TIME this weekend. WOHOOO!!. To which then a friend always replied "I have my credit card ready. Call me for bail if you need me" lol

Is it weird I kinda want to hang out with you and your friends??

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It's really too bad that all of these grifters can take a few lessons from Francis.  Jill and Derick could learn a lot about how to missionary right from the guy.

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2 hours ago, RazzleberryPie said:

Just like Jill, they truly do think they're on a mission, from God

Are there people who are not Duggars who can hear the phrase "oh a mission. from god." and not think of the Blues Brothers?

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5 minutes ago, jcbrown said:

Are there people who are not Duggars who can hear the phrase "oh a mission. from god." and not think of the Blues Brothers?

Hahaha I can't. I do think the Blues Brothers did more good for the world than Jill and Derrick.

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2 hours ago, RazzleberryPie said:

Just like Jill, they truly do think they're on a mission, from God, and that all this grifting and gifting is rewards for their sacrifices, blah blah blah. ROME and VATICAN CITY. They travel more than my husband and I do, and we both work full time. It's amazing how self absorbed and clueless people can be. I'm still trying to figure out what they're sacrificing, because it isn't international travel, extending college life for another full decade, and wearing every trend Basic White Girls enjoy.

Rome is my favorite place in the world and I'm shamelessly into most things basic white girl. I was a member of a (secular, non-Jesus-y, regular drinking & partying) sorority in college. Why didn't anyone tell me that being a "collegiate Greek missionary" was a career path???? I guess it's because I went to a college largely full of Jews, Catholics, Episcopalians, & non-religious students and I wasn't raised by people like the Duggars who have truly made grifting an art and career. 

Really, though....I didn't know collegiate Greek missionary was a thing. Maybe that's more up the Dillards' alley if Derrick could do this at his alma mater. Maybe being a former Pistol Pete could help his "ministry." That way Jill could stay relatively close to her family (so sister-moms can be dispatched to help) and she'd be back in the "safety" of the U.S. And she might even be exposed to some actual educated women in a college community. I mean, I'd still rag on them for grifting, but this kind of grifting does seem more their style. 

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8 hours ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

Rome is my favorite place in the world and I'm shamelessly into most things basic white girl. I was a member of a (secular, non-Jesus-y, regular drinking & partying) sorority in college. Why didn't anyone tell me that being a "collegiate Greek missionary" was a career path???? I guess it's because I went to a college largely full of Jews, Catholics, Episcopalians, & non-religious students and I wasn't raised by people like the Duggars who have truly made grifting an art and career. 

Really, though....I didn't know collegiate Greek missionary was a thing. Maybe that's more up the Dillards' alley if Derrick could do this at his alma mater. Maybe being a former Pistol Pete could help his "ministry." That way Jill could stay relatively close to her family (so sister-moms can be dispatched to help) and she'd be back in the "safety" of the U.S. And she might even be exposed to some actual educated women in a college community. I mean, I'd still rag on them for grifting, but this kind of grifting does seem more their style. 

It's probably easier to conceal your utter ignorance and look like a big shot, though, if you mission to people who aren't fluent in your language. (and you don't speak theirs). .... US college students might catch on faster. 

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26 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

It's probably easier to conceal your utter ignorance and look like a big shot, though, if you mission to people who aren't fluent in your language. (and you don't speak theirs). .... US college students might catch on faster. 

Can't you just imagine Jill trying to speak intelligently to college students or pulling out her little bag of 'medical things' to impress a pre-med student?  

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13 hours ago, RazzleberryPie said:

 

Anyway........they totally reminded me of the Dillards today. Today's prayer update was showcasing trips of their Very Important Summer Mission to bring the gospel to the sinning heathens in.........ROME. Rome, Italy. Pics of them in Rome and VATICAN CITY, and them gushing on and on about how important it was to introduce Jesus to the people in one of the first cities where Christianity was born. ROME.

 

Damn, are they hiring?

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No lie. I know of a youth group, large southern Baptist church, teens go on mission trips to the Bahamas and Vegas. Now why in the hell wasn't that around when I was a teenager in church? We got stuck with some deliverance type camp in the woods.

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10 minutes ago, Annb67 said:

No lie. I know of a youth group, large southern Baptist church, teens go on mission trips to the Bahamas and Vegas. Now why in the hell wasn't that around when I was a teenager in church? We got stuck with some deliverance type camp in the woods.

That might be enough to bring me back to religion. We were clearly born in the wrong era. 

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I'm trying to picture a group of young people in the Bahamas and Las Vegas, seeing the sun and the beach and the fun casinos and shopping and shows, and honestly not only being tempted by all of that, but thinking it is EVIL and fighting against it all.  They will probably be standing on sidewalks and yelling at people calling them sinners and whore and pushing pamphlets in their faces, while dodging insults.  Fools.  But at least if Jill and Derek do that type of preaching, they would be "earning" their donations.  

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1 minute ago, EAG46 said:

I'm trying to picture a group of young people in the Bahamas and Las Vegas, seeing the sun and the beach and the fun casinos and shopping and shows, and honestly not only being tempted by all of that, but thinking it is EVIL and fighting against it all.  They will probably be standing on sidewalks and yelling at people calling them sinners and whore and pushing pamphlets in their faces, while dodging insults.  Fools.  But at least if Jill and Derek do that type of preaching, they would be "earning" their donations.  

Part of the problem is, you can't really send a teen anywhere interesting from the point of view of "spreading the gospel to those who haven't heard it" because Liability.  If they sent them to the Malaysian jungles or similar, then I'd be impressed.

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1 hour ago, Annb67 said:

No lie. I know of a youth group, large southern Baptist church, teens go on mission trips to the Bahamas and Vegas. Now why in the hell wasn't that around when I was a teenager in church? We got stuck with some deliverance type camp in the woods.

And I can name half a dozen people I've known over the years who had their first sexual experience...at Bible Camp.

Bringing it back to the Dullards...where I live there is a huge new expensive office looking building called something like Nextlifetv which I recently found out is actually a giant Evangelical church. They currently have some kind of huge tent set up in their parking lot that is designed to emulate the harsh living conditions of third world children to help people "empathize" meaning donate.

It's air conditioned.

Now that's the perfect set up for these two. You don't have to actually travel to icky buggy slow wifi places...you can just stroll out to the parking lot!

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59 minutes ago, EAG46 said:

I'm trying to picture a group of young people in the Bahamas and Las Vegas, seeing the sun and the beach and the fun casinos and shopping and shows, and honestly not only being tempted by all of that, but thinking it is EVIL and fighting against it all.  They will probably be standing on sidewalks and yelling at people calling them sinners and whore and pushing pamphlets in their faces, while dodging insults.  Fools.  But at least if Jill and Derek do that type of preaching, they would be "earning" their donations.  

Well, but these are Protestant missions. So works, good or bad, mean nothing. All that matters is that you get a few random people to say they accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior. And, voila!, you've successfully evangelized. Mission Accomplished. 

Then you can put on your micro bikini and go right back to the blackjack table. 

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1 hour ago, Churchhoney said:

Well, but these are Protestant missions. So works, good or bad, mean nothing. All that matters is that you get a few random people to say they accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior. And, voila!, you've successfully evangelized. Mission Accomplished. 

Then you can put on your micro bikini and go right back to the blackjack table. 

OK. I live in Vegas and need to defend my town a little.  This is the largest Mormon community outside of salt lake.  I'm not Mormon, but I see the Mormon missionaries all over the place.  The strip is only a small part of town.  I live in a regular suburb (not far from the sister wives BTW) and there is a church about every mile.  The religious community is very active here.  I'm done now.  Except.....

for one interesting missionary story.  I used to work with a guy who was deeply Mormon.  His dad took it upon himself to go in to the casinos and preach to the cocktail waitresses while they were working.  When I said I was surprised the casinos allowed that, he looked at me like I have two heads.  He said his dad got kicked out all the time.  But his Dad was retired and strongly believed he was called to do this.  So even in Vegas, missionaries are alive and well.

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7 minutes ago, toodles said:

OK. I live in Vegas and need to defend my town a little.  This is the largest Mormon community outside of salt lake.  I'm not Mormon, but I see the Mormon missionaries all over the place.  The strip is only a small part of town.  I live in a regular suburb (not far from the sister wives BTW) and there is a church about every mile.  The religious community is very active here.  I'm done now.  Except.....

for one interesting missionary story.  I used to work with a guy who was deeply Mormon.  His dad took it upon himself to go in to the casinos and preach to the cocktail waitresses while they were working.  When I said I was surprised the casinos allowed that, he looked at me like I have two heads.  He said his dad got kicked out all the time.  But his Dad was retired and strongly believed he was called to do this.  So even in Vegas, missionaries are alive and well.

It sounds to me like the guy was just interested in ogling the girls in their sexy attire.  Why didn't he just approach males with his missionary message?

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2 hours ago, Annb67 said:

No lie. I know of a youth group, large southern Baptist church, teens go on mission trips to the Bahamas and Vegas. Now why in the hell wasn't that around when I was a teenager in church? We got stuck with some deliverance type camp in the woods.

I know of a few. Not just Southern Baptists. Missioncations are a prestige thing. It's ok to spend thousands of dollars on a teen vacation if it's a 'mission trip'. Best part is when the teens come back all sanctimonious, because they think they've literally Saved the World by playing frisbee on a beach in the Caribbean.

2 hours ago, EAG46 said:

I'm trying to picture a group of young people in the Bahamas and Las Vegas, seeing the sun and the beach and the fun casinos and shopping and shows, and honestly not only being tempted by all of that, but thinking it is EVIL and fighting against it all.  They will probably be standing on sidewalks and yelling at people calling them sinners and whore and pushing pamphlets in their faces, while dodging insults.  Fools.  But at least if Jill and Derek do that type of preaching, they would be "earning" their donations.  

These trips aren't just for adults. I know one specific church who does an adult trip to Vegas every single year, to visit a church plant close to the strip. The whole group works themselves up each year as to how horribly sinful, modern day Sodom and Gommorah, Vegas is, and then spend their time their handing out tracts on the strip. They host a few church services, and spend the rest of their time at restaurants or shopping, then come home and talk about all the hideous things they imagined went on in Vegas. It's quite pathetic.

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19 minutes ago, toodles said:

for one interesting missionary story.  I used to work with a guy who was deeply Mormon.  His dad took it upon himself to go in to the casinos and preach to the cocktail waitresses while they were working.  When I said I was surprised the casinos allowed that, he looked at me like I have two heads.  He said his dad got kicked out all the time.  But his Dad was retired and strongly believed he was called to do this.  So even in Vegas, missionaries are alive and well.

 

9 minutes ago, RazzleberryPie said:

I know of a few. Not just Southern Baptists. Missioncations are a prestige thing. It's ok to spend thousands of dollars on a teen vacation if it's a 'mission trip'. Best part is when the teens come back all sanctimonious, because they think they've literally Saved the World by playing frisbee on a beach in the Caribbean.

These trips aren't just for adults. I know one specific church who does an adult trip to Vegas every single year, to visit a church plant close to the strip. The whole group works themselves up each year as to how horribly sinful, modern day Sodom and Gommorah, Vegas is, and then spend their time their handing out tracts on the strip. They host a few church services, and spend the rest of their time at restaurants or shopping, then come home and talk about all the hideous things they imagined went on in Vegas. It's quite pathetic.

These people would make funny caricatures in a screenplay or something like.  

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3 minutes ago, Mollie said:

It sounds to me like the guy was just interested in ogling the girls in their sexy attire.  Why didn't he just approach males with his missionary message?

Oh no.  His dad was deeply offended by their uniforms and the fact that they were serving drinks to all the heathen gamblers. He was trying to make them see the error of their ways.  He was actually a really sweet old guy who genuinely believed it was his calling.  He may have preached to men too, but they aren't cocktail waitresses.

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Derek looks drugged out of his mind. Who is doing his braces? They look horribly painful and how good of a job can they be doing when he's away from his ortho for so many months at a time?

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1 hour ago, queenanne said:

 

These people would make funny caricatures in a screenplay or something like.  

The saddest part is, that church could literally walk across its parking lot and find a few bars and gambling places, plus a few drug rehab facilities, if they really wanted to help people who are dealing with addiction and substance abuse.

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Derick has had those braces for what two years?  In a normal situation our orthodontist said even with surgery braces would only be on two to two and a half years.  Of course, that orthodontist would never have kept Derick as a client because he wouldn't make his appointments.

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4 hours ago, Oldernowiser said:

And I can name half a dozen people I've known over the years who had their first sexual experience...at Bible Camp.

Bringing it back to the Dullards...where I live there is a huge new expensive office looking building called something like Nextlifetv which I recently found out is actually a giant Evangelical church. They currently have some kind of huge tent set up in their parking lot that is designed to emulate the harsh living conditions of third world children to help people "empathize" meaning donate.

It's air conditioned.

Now that's the perfect set up for these two. You don't have to actually travel to icky buggy slow wifi places...you can just stroll out to the parking lot!

Lol!! The Bible camp sexy time. Happened every year

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

The Dillard's going to church in the "States". Not Israel though, he's with one of the grandmas.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUXO7ASggcX/

Well D man still looks like shit....

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8 hours ago, Mollie said:

Can't you just imagine Jill trying to speak intelligently to college students or pulling out her little bag of 'medical things' to impress a pre-med student?  

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I'd pay to watch that.

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Wanna place bets on whether they bother to return to Danger America? 

#lovetheUSA is pretty telling after what they've recently experienced and exploited for donations. And if they don't return, will they give the slush fund back?

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I don't know if Derrick isn't keeping up with appointments or whether his orthodontist is garbage, but how the hell has it been two years since his surgery and there is absolutely no improvement? The entire lower half of his face is offset and his left incisor is at his nostril. Hell, if any Duggar has a case for a lawsuit, it's this guy here.

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3 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Wanna place bets on whether they bother to return to Danger America? 

#lovetheUSA is pretty telling after what they've recently experienced and exploited for donations. And if they don't return, will they give the slush fund back?

Silly, silly Sew.  They can't go back any time soon, what with their mega-million-dollar court trial approaching.  Or, do you really believe that they will consider doing Jesus work as missionaries to be more important?

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3 hours ago, RazzleberryPie said:

I know of a few. Not just Southern Baptists. Missioncations are a prestige thing. It's ok to spend thousands of dollars on a teen vacation if it's a 'mission trip'. Best part is when the teens come back all sanctimonious, because they think they've literally Saved the World by playing frisbee on a beach in the Caribbean.

These trips aren't just for adults. I know one specific church who does an adult trip to Vegas every single year, to visit a church plant close to the strip. The whole group works themselves up each year as to how horribly sinful, modern day Sodom and Gommorah, Vegas is, and then spend their time their handing out tracts on the strip. They host a few church services, and spend the rest of their time at restaurants or shopping, then come home and talk about all the hideous things they imagined went on in Vegas. It's quite pathetic.

I spend all day and night sinning.  It's always a surprises me that I have to to go to work and do my house chores, what with living in Sin Town.

For the record, I rarely go to Travel Channel lv.  

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My parents spent time in Las Vegas when a one-night layover became a three-week pneumonia and pacemaker implant for my dad.  Fortunately one of the hospitals there is top notch.  My mom got to know Vegas Away From the Strip and liked it.  She learned Latter-Day Saints have a number of management positions in casinos because they don't drink or gamble.  She also fell in love with Jason's Deli.  [[This was 15 years ago and Dad's doing okay.]]  Aside from the crippling heat I would probably like Normal Las Vegas.  I doubt the Missionary People will ever get the chance to understand that The Strip is just business and Real Life is beyond it.  

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24 minutes ago, toodles said:

I spend all day and night sinning.  It's always a surprises me that I have to to go to work and do my house chores, what with living in Sin Town.

For the record, I rarely go to Travel Channel lv.  

You know who they usually get at this plant? People exactly like Sierra, who give some woe is me sob story about their sinful past, then pass the offering plate and have somebody take them to a swanky restaurant. 

I read somewhere that there are more churches per capita in LV than anywhere else in the US. Not sure if this is accurate, but there is no lack in Vegas. I think it has the highest concentration of LDS (and offshoots) outside of Utah as well. So there are Christians everywhere and all these reinventing the wheel church plants and missioncations are just an excuse to 'get close to the fire without getting burned' by still being part of the Vegas glam hedonistic brand, but not actually doing anything. Tourists.

2 minutes ago, EAG46 said:

My parents spent time in Las Vegas when a one-night layover became a three-week pneumonia and pacemaker implant for my dad.  Fortunately one of the hospitals there is top notch.  My mom got to know Vegas Away From the Strip and liked it.  She learned Latter-Day Saints have a number of management positions in casinos because they don't drink or gamble.  She also fell in love with Jason's Deli.  [[This was 15 years ago and Dad's doing okay.]]  Aside from the crippling heat I would probably like Normal Las Vegas.  I doubt the Missionary People will ever get the chance to understand that The Strip is just business and Real Life is beyond it.  

They won't get he chance because they don't want to and choose not to. 

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52 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I don't know if Derrick isn't keeping up with appointments or whether his orthodontist is garbage, but how the hell has it been two years since his surgery and there is absolutely no improvement? The entire lower half of his face is offset and his left incisor is at his nostril. Hell, if any Duggar has a case for a lawsuit, it's this guy here.

Well, JB would probably have trouble getting hold of all that money, so I'm thinking that a suit would not be encouraged. 

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Some up thread just posted that braces are usually on for around 2 years, I had braces as an adult for 5 years.... Was a long long long process

 

sorry nothing of any actual substance to say just wanted to whine about my experience 

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15 hours ago, Totally said:

Some up thread just posted that braces are usually on for around 2 years, I had braces as an adult for 5 years.... Was a long long long process

 

sorry nothing of any actual substance to say just wanted to whine about my experience 

Six years for me. Ugh.

on topic.......Izzy will probably have braces.....look at his parents' narrow jaws.

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I guess they consider themselves religious super stars if they think attending church rates a picture and an announcement.  I wonder if the congregation applauded and praised the return of the great white missionaries?  

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11 minutes ago, Love2dance said:

 

on topic.......Izzy will probably have braces.....look at his parents narrow jaws.

I wonder if his parents will have any money to pay for braces.  I'm by then,  the show will be long gone & neither of the nitwits will have gotten a real job.  Please Donate.

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Even though Derick's mouth looks ridiculous, and he may or may not be drugged up, at least he doesn't look like a hippie. Jill looks really cute. It seems like every time they come back, Jill immediately posts a photo in which she is showered, fresh eyed, wearing makeup, has her hair fixed, and isn't wearing some monstrosity. The speed with which she spruces herself up here should tell Derick that maybe, maybe this is just where Jill thrives and is happy. They look like the normal, clean cut couple that got married, going to church three years later. I really wish they had held off on kids. Without Izzy, they could have maybe even gone to Danger America, gotten that out of their systems, come back here, and had a child now. Their whole belief system where they have to rush everything, and the male makes all the decisions, isn't working out too well for Jilly Muffin. 

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