Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[kokapetl]

In the cases I've seen, it isn't so much a "dangerous" area, as an area where proselytizing is illegal. If you advertise you are going to China, for example (I think this is one where it is the case), for a missionary trip, you can be arrested.

But if you go to China to build orphanages, you're all good. The locals will figure out you are there to talk about Jesus, and it stays hush-hush.

Makes me think they're going to Nepal. The low hanging fruit Central and South American Catholic Countries wouldn't require that. Edited July 6, 2015 by Kokapetl

[GEML]

Is the Dillard family mission an approved 501c? Because then there is the possibility that Jim Bob is actually financing a lot of this and taking it as a huge tax write off.

[Sew Sumi]

Given that they had that attorney friend of Mike Huckabee's set up Dillard Family Ministries (along with Derick the accountant), setting this entity up as a non-profit would be a foregone conclusion. 

[kokapetl]

Is the Dillard family mission an approved 501c? Because then there is the possibility that Jim Bob is actually financing a lot of this and taking it as a huge tax write off.

From dillardfamily.com:

Dillard Family Ministries is recognized by the IRS as a 501©(3) tax-exempt organization that accepts tax-deductible donations.

The forum software changes the c in brackets to copyright symbol. Edited July 6, 2015 by Kokapetl

[BitterApple]

Is the Dillard family mission an approved 501c? Because then there is the possibility that Jim Bob is actually financing a lot of this and taking it as a huge tax write off.

Apparently Dullard's ministry is 501c, it says so on their website. I want to know how they got approved so quickly. I thought the government was making organizations jump through a lot more hoops these days. Nobody even knows where they're going or what they're really doing. Hell, I can go hand out Jesus leaflets on a tropical beach as well, does that mean I can write off my next vacation? It just seems so shady.

[Churchhoney]

LOL!  I saw that too.  My first thought was "can't you just say 'we are trying to visit all of our friends and family before leaving'?"

 

But then it wouldn't be holy and part of their mission (or pretentious and self-righteous, but those are just collateral benefits).

He might want to purpose to learn the difference between you're and your.

 

Hey, don't knock his spelling. He's just trying to be a good in-law and fit in with his wife's family.

[Churchhoney]

Given that they had that attorney friend of Mike Huckabee's set up Dillard Family Ministries (along with Derick the accountant), setting this entity up as a non-profit would be a foregone conclusion. 

 

And we know that this particular Huckabee friend is a dab hand at setting up organizations that funnel cash to your nearest and dearest and other non-"purpose"-related folks. So I'm sure it's all structured to Jim Bob's liking.

 

Since its inception, Huck PAC has never spent more than 12 percent of its funds on candidates or other PACs. It gave only 5 percent of its revenues—that is $47,000 of $1,063,142—to candidates during the 2012 cycle, when Huckabee briefly flirted with a second presidential run. Meanwhile, the PAC's budget has increasingly flowed to firms that specialize in direct-mail fundraising, a notoriously inefficient process that can cost a PAC almost as much money as it yields. So to a certain degree Huck PAC donors are not underwriting Huckabee's favorite conservative causes; they're financing more fundraising.

 

http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2015/01/20/mike-huckabee-pays-family-400000-from-his-pac

 

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/01/mike-huckabee-pac-paid-his-family-almost-400000

[JoanArc]

 

It just seems so shady.

It's not like they know any better.

 

I hope Derick's bracing for the moment when Jill realizes this isn't 'fun' anymore.

[kokapetl]

It's a mission to Argentina or Brazil (to fix Derick's face).

[Iguessnot]

Poor Derick, this guy just cannot catch a break with getting a flattering photograph. His appearance has really been altered. https://instagram.com/p/4vMdo1rs99/

 

He really looks like a ghoul in that photo.

[Flowers]

It's not as though the paparazzi are capturing these pics of him and posting them. His wife is plastering his new face everywhere (and in some cases he's doing it himself). I don't see any reason to feel sorry for him.

[GEML]

I'm guessing the charity was a much longer time in the making than we probably think it was. Perhaps from the time Jill and Derrick were married. When Jim Bob said he was looking for "ministry" opportunities from his sons in law, it might be that he was looking for tax shelters. The irony might be that with Derick he may actually end up with a genuine missionary for his daughter. I hope so.

[mbutterfly]

Perhaps they don't want the public to know that they are being filmed by TLC. You know if they announced it the haterade would start all over again.

Or TLC wanted it to be  a surprise on the show, you know like Jill's engagement and Izzie's sex. 

[Julia]

They've also "purposed to spend as much time with friends and family as..."

Good grief.

 

LOL!  I saw that too.  My first thought was "can't you just say 'we are trying to visit all of our friends and family before leaving'?"

 

I think it's part and parcel of the thing where people think the bible was written in archaic english (possibly by King James). People seem to be under the impression that God talks like what they vaguely believe Shakespeare sounds like.  

 

Since its inception, Huck PAC has never spent more than 12 percent of its funds on candidates or other PACs. It gave only 5 percent of its revenues—that is $47,000 of $1,063,142—to candidates during the 2012 cycle, when Huckabee briefly flirted with a second presidential run. Meanwhile, the PAC's budget has increasingly flowed to firms that specialize in direct-mail fundraising, a notoriously inefficient process that can cost a PAC almost as much money as it yields. So to a certain degree Huck PAC donors are not underwriting Huckabee's favorite conservative causes; they're financing more fundraising.

 

Might be instructive to see who's running those firms that specialize in direct mail fundraising. The point of the exercise may be to funnel money to whatever useless nephew or black ops specialist they pay salaries and consulting fees to. After all, that's how Josh got a job.

[abseedee]

From the Duggar Fam Blog.

 

Duggars pray for the Dillards before driving them to the airport.

Edited July 6, 2015 by abseedee

[Sew Sumi]

Boob: "Expect that we're going to show up." Interesting to note that ALL of the "working" brothers couldn't care less and didn't even bother to show up for this. I get that Benessa were somewhere else this weekend, but couldn't Boob have pulled the boys off of Josh House duty for an hour to say goodbye to their sister? Oh wait, I can'r remember that ANY of those boys have a relationship with her at.all.

 

When's the next SOS mission trip? Of course, they're going to show up! Jill is qualified to do a short SBC mission, but she can't be a full-time representative for them. The only other option is SOS, and we know the Duggars do that in December, but have also gone in the summer.

 

Oh wait! SOS has some mission trips beginning on the 18th that the Duggars could do, although some others started today. So yeah, the Duggars will be down there to check up on Jill tout suite! 

 

http://www.soshope.org/serve-overseas/

Edited July 6, 2015 by Sew Sumi

[CofCinci]

From the Duggar Fam Blog.

Duggars pray for the Dillards before driving them to the airport.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWDRTqUy2u4

Michelle could care less.

[irisheyes]

I think they're just being self-absorbed when they use the "security reasons" excuse. Most missionaries who go to closed countries go as teachers of English or medical doctors. And even then, the missionaries will at least say what part of the world they are moving to. If Derrick is talking about language school, they're moving to a Central or South American country. They'll probably go to one place for for language school and then move to their ultimate destination six months or so later. Hopefully, they're moving to a larger city, so they have access to medical services.

ETA: Prayer cards are postcard size cards with a picture of the family on the front, usually with the caption "Pray for the ABC family serving The Lord in XYZ." On the back is a map of the country, mailing address for the family and the name of the mission organization. Churches pass them out for people to hang on the refrigerator. My grandma had about four or five of them (including two with her daughters on them).

Edited July 6, 2015 by irisheyes

[lookeyloo]

Did Michelle ever go near that baby?  Not on camera.  Me, I would have been clutching the grandchild for dear life in the last moments before they left!  And I did when mine flew back home after a visit this summer.  And we are going to visit them next week!  I guess her not having a heart for children extends to the grandchildren too.

[Yolapukka]

Jim-bob is so inarticulate. He's trying to put his thoughts into words but a load of barely connected pious words and platitudes come halting out of his mouth to the point where he sounds like someone clicking a random phrase generator.

[HundFan]

 

 

I. Can't. Even.

Mentioning Derick's father's death to help with the rebranding? No words. I kept waiting for one of those sad abused dog PSA's with "In The Arms Of An Angel" to come on.

Edited July 6, 2015 by HundFan

[Julia]

Mightn't they just mean that they don't want to get waylaid by Gawker stringers at the airport? Because, I have to tell you, if someone got as far into my space as that guy in the video was, I'd be having them removed by airport security.

[Sew Sumi]

 

 

I. Can't. Even.

Mentioning Derick's father's death to help with the rebranding? No words. I kept waiting for one of those sad abused dog PSA's with "In The Arms Of An Angel" to come on.

I didn't even get that far. It turned into white noise after about 30 seconds until I heard the sobbing and looked to see Poor Joy and Jenni sobbing like babies. I'm not surprised that Mechelle was an emotionless robot. Business as usual for her. 

Edited July 7, 2015 by Sew Sumi

[bigskygirl]

Darn those Duggars! I almost starting crying when I saw how upset Joy was getting.

[riverblue22]

Poor Joy.  One loss after another.  And I don't think Michelle gave one thought to that baby!

[auntieminem]

Darn those Duggars! I almost starting crying when I saw how upset Joy was getting.

 

I felt so sad for her and then Jenny started.  I am sure Jill's buddy team will miss her and being able to spend time with her and Derick.  

[Missy Vixen]

They're bringing that show back if they have to field subscribers and show it on YouTube, but I'm fairly sure they've already worked it out with TLC.

 

Maybe I should send another donation to Doctors Without Borders. I know where those donations go. They also venture into the most dangerous places in the world to offer medical care without the proselytizing. IMHO of course.

[Marigold]

Who filmed this? 

[Fuzzysox]

I hope those two don't purpose to teach English to anyone. *shudder*

 

And just for fun, I hope they come back Roman Catholic and they themselves get converted instead of converting others to their bizarro religion. 

[Barbie]

Who filmed this? 

I bet Josh filmed this... 

[JoanArc]

Jinger lets out a nice yawn, and covers her mouth. Really into it, Jin Jin!

[louannems]

Pops was trying so hard, without much success, to remember his scripted lines. Giving parting words to his daughter in such a pious and robotic fashion, and Jill standing at attention next to pops. She's been on camera for so much of her life. Well when I was her age, I joined the Air Force and was sent to Japan for two years. It was the only time I saw my dad cry when we were saying good bye. So much different than Jill and pops goodbye.

[Churchhoney]

From the Duggar Fam Blog.

 

Duggars pray for the Dillards before driving them to the airport.

 

All the world's a stage for Jim Bob, isn't it? Those kids are set up to believe that every damn moment in life should be a public performance. Takes the social-media warping of all of us to a whole other level, it seems to me. (not that I could stand to watch this all the way through. I made it to 37 seconds. Jim Bob's unctuous phoniness gives me the creeps.)

[JoanArc]

http://www.inquisitr.com/2229244/19-kids-and-counting-jill-duggar-and-derick-dillard-mission-trip-photo-faked-by-jessa/

 

Heh. The media caught it. Good.

[Churchhoney]

I didn't even get that far. It turned into white noise after about 30 seconds until I heard the sobbing and looked to see Poor Joy and Jenny sobbing like a babies. I'm not surprised that Mechelle was an emotionless robot. Business as usual for her. 

 

Oh, I feel bad now for Jilly Muffin's buddy team. Their little escape place at the Dillards has evaporated. Poor kids.

[JerseyGirl]

Siah was missing.  There were a couple kids missing.

[Sew Sumi]

Who filmed this? 

Probably Jason. It's listed on YouTube as DuggarFamily. 

[msblossom]

This was fairly low key and realistic, so I wasn't bothered that the howlers or Jessa & Ben were missing, they said their goodbyes earlier. If TLC had been filming, the whole family would be present along with endless flashback clips we've seen numerous times, and everyone piling into the stink bus to drop them off at the airport check-in counter.

Don't they normally do the SOS trips around the holidays? Jill & Derick need to be on their own w/o the Duggars for awhile -- I was pleasantly surprised that they weren't horning in on their trip.

Joy choked me up...

[Sew Sumi]

Siah was missing.  There were a couple kids missing.

All the older boys down to Jason (probably behind the camera) were missing. 

 

They've done summer SOS trips in the past. I fully expect them to show up on social media painting some nails and kicking around some soccer balls in a couple of weeks. A couple missions (one 2-week, one 1-week) begin in about 12 days, another 1-week begins towards the end of the month thru 8/1. 

Edited July 7, 2015 by Sew Sumi

[TaxNerd]

I did tear up at Joy, but I'm a sap. No one else really seemed to care. Even Jana seemed blase. Michelle was weird, as usual. It was super awkward, but maybe it was really early in the morning.

Boob mentioned overseas several times, so while South America makes perfect sense, I may change my vote to Asia.

[Sew Sumi]

http://www.inquisitr.com/2229244/19-kids-and-counting-jill-duggar-and-derick-dillard-mission-trip-photo-faked-by-jessa/

 

Heh. The media caught it. Good.

I like to think they read it here. LOL

 

eta: @TaxNerd, SOS is a mission devoted to Central American countries El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala. I've heard people call places outside of Canada and Mexico "overseas." No, it's not technically correct, but look at who we're dealing with here! 

Edited July 7, 2015 by Sew Sumi

[GEML]

I don't normally go deeper than maybe one level of things posted here, but I did go digging into the Cornerstone bit, as it rang a bell. It was founded in 2001 by one of the homeschoolers and has connections to Vision Forum (the subculture Ben came out of). Not sure what this has to do with the Duggars and Josh getting 5%, but it's definitely not their company.

[Seashell Lover]

When I see SOS Mission trips I always think of save our show trips.

[Fuzzysox]

Did Michelle ever go near that baby?  

I didn't see it nor did she even go near Derick. Now if it was her Bin she would have attacked him.

When I see SOS Mission trips I always think of save our show trips.

LOL you win the internet today! 

[Sew Sumi]

I can't recall now, but what was the name of Huckabee's PR guy's consulting firm? It was listed on the paperwork filed for Dillard Ministries. Sorry, I'm not going to go digging to try and find that thread. :/ 

 

Was THAT Cornerstone? I wish I could remember this guy's name. I assume that this is all his firm, but we don't know the Duggars' long-term connection to him; Josh may well have formed some kind of partnership deal with him. IF that's Cornerstone. 

[goodolmom]

My first post here.  I've never seen a goodbye to a child and her family as cold as this was.  First, normally when there's a family prayer, most families turn inward, forming a sort of circle.  The little ones in the front automatically faced the camera.  Then the 5-second side hugs exchanged with the sisters. They looked more like casual acquaintances than sisters.  Jill and Derrick may just as well have been leaving for the weekend.  The only genuine show of emotion that I saw was between Jill and Joy and it was heartbreaking, as was the sound of little Jenny sobbing.  I'm a grandmother and as a previous poster said, if my grandchild was leaving, I'd be holding them until that car door shut and they drove off - especially knowing how quickly little ones grow up.  How kind of Jim Bob to tell Grandma to come over and say goodbye to Jill.  Where in the world was she when her granddaughter and family were getting ready to fly off to another country?  Throwing another load of wash in?  Finally, Jim Bob's little speech had about as much warmth in it as an icicle on an eave.  All for the camera.  And what a ridiculous time to bring up Derrick's dad.  I feel so sorry for those children.

[Churchhoney]

I can't recall now, but what was the name of Huckabee's PR guy's consulting firm? It was listed on the paperwork filed for Dillard Ministries. Sorry, I'm not going to go digging to try and find that thread. :/ 

 

Was THAT Cornerstone? I wish I could remember this guy's name. I assume that this is all his firm, but we don't know the Duggars' long-term connection to him; Josh may well have formed some kind of partnership deal with him. IF that's Cornerstone. 

 

It's Chad Gallagher. He's Legacy Consulting. (although he may have other organizations and companies -- the Duggars have dozens, so why not?)   

 

http://legacyincorporated.com/our-principal/

[Sew Sumi]

Thanks, Churchhoney! That was going to plague me for days! I thought he was an attorney, but it doesn't appear that he has any post-grad education. However, it does appear that he comes from money; an "expansive" holding company that redevelops historic properties isn't the work of even middle class folks. I've followed the Duggar plane for some time, and JD has often flown to Chad's neck of the woods. One wonders how long the Duggars have been involved with Chad; did Huck just lend the guy to bail out the Duggars when Joshgate broke, and that's how Jill and Derick met him? We know that Jerick made an announcement to the family back before the season finale around the time of Joshgate, but were they to the point of setting up Dillard Family Ministries, or was that (and this trip) hastened along by Josh's actions? 

[Julia]

Finally, Jim Bob's little speech had about as much warmth in it as an icicle on an eave.  

I just wanted to say what a lovely turn of phrase that was.

[JoanArc]

 

Siah was missing.  There were a couple kids missing.

Jer is attending an ATI summer camp that rejects the 'myth of adolescence'* and makes him a man, or something.

 

* I know adolescence is a modern social construct, pedants. Here's your gold star.

Edited July 7, 2015 by JoanArc