Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[Absolom]

It's a past interview - not recent.

[BrianJ62]

It's a past interview - not recent.

Cool, thank you.

I saw it somewhere on here. She gave the advice in an interview when she was still pregnant with M4, probably before Josh scandal #1. She's been pretty tight lipped since Josh scandal #2.

Thanks.

I really want this to happen.

Somebody's saving me a seat on the bus to Hell, right?

I'm the bus driver on the highway to hell, maybe I should right a song about it called Highway to Hell, damm its already been done.

[kokapetl]

Imagine if he recorded it. And it's "leaked".

Edited November 19, 2015 by Kokapetl

[JoanArc]

 

He will destroy them all.

Turnabout's fair play.

[Churchhoney]

The lawsuit said that he spent $600 on admission plus lap dances, then $1,500 for sex with the porn star. $2,100 in one night. It appears that Josh spent a lot of money on his "issue". This thing goes a lot further than cheating on his wife. Josh has extreme problems. Child molestation of his sisters plus a babysitter that came to their house, followed by thousands of dollars to feed his problem. Josh is a real problem. I think it's in the family's best interest to cut him loose as though he never existed. He really is a sicko. Even if it was Michelle and Jim Bob's fault, in the interest of every single other person in the family, they all have to stay away from him. He will destroy them all.

 

Of course, I could extend that argument and say that the best thing for every single Duggar kid is to cut itself loose from Jim Bob and Michelle as well. In my opinion, they're at least as sick, toxic and dangerous as Josh -- and likely more so -- albeit in different ways.

 

Living in Duggarland is to be utterly enmeshed in several -- at least -- very damaging relationships. As well as to be kept away from any knowledge that would help you understand that or empower you to escape from them.

 

It's horrifying to me that they're now churning out this new generation of babies and locking them into the same sick fuckup.

Edited November 19, 2015 by Churchhoney

[WescottF1]

The lawsuit said that he spent $600 on admission plus lap dances, then $1,500 for sex with the porn star. $2,100 in one night. 

 

$2100.00 would buy an awwwwwwful lot of tater tots.

[BrianJ62]

$2100.00 would buy an awwwwwwful lot of tater tots.

For tax purposes would that go under fun & entertainment or religion?

[bigskygirl]

Sadly, JB and Michelle need to take part of the blame in what is going on with Josh, but he needs to take a hard long look at himself. Blaming others for what he did as a teenager and a grown man with a wife and kids is not going to help him. Man up Josh. If getting the treatment he may need and getting away from his parents and siblings is the best thing for him, he needs to do so. He went to D.C. to sell his family's political and religious beliefs. Sadly, I do not think he has his own original thoughts. Yes, his education and real life skills are lacking, but he is the one who can improve himself. He should not be expecting his parents, Anna, or Jesus to do it for him.

[Churchhoney]

Sadly, JB and Michelle need to take part of the blame in what is going on with Josh, but he needs to take a hard long look at himself. Blaming others for what he did as a teenager and a grown man with a wife and kids is not going to help him. Man up Josh. If getting the treatment he may need and getting away from his parents and siblings is the best thing for him, he needs to do so. He went to D.C. to sell his family's political and religious beliefs. Sadly, I do not think he has his own original thoughts. Yes, his education and real life skills are lacking, but he is the one who can improve himself. He should not be expecting his parents, Anna, or Jesus to do it for him.

 

 

So far as I can see, nobody in Duggardom ever takes responsibility for anything. From Jim Bob and Michelle on down. It's always God doing it or Satan doing it or some enemies doing it, or some excuse that it -- whatever it was -- happened. And Josh actually seems to me to be one of the limper, lazier, wimpier members of the crew. So I fear we'll be waiting a long time for this development.

Edited November 19, 2015 by Churchhoney

[BitterApple]

Josh should have just had an affair at work like everyone else does. Spending thousands of dollars on trashy porn stars is crazy.

Did he in fact leave RU or is this just a rumor? Locating Josh is like finding that elusive Sasquatch in the forest. Every time we think we're close, he slips by us yet again...

I think we're going to need to charter a 747 for our one-way trip to hell. I'm not sure a bus can hold us all.

Edited November 19, 2015 by BitterApple

[BrianJ62]

Josh should have just had an affair at work like everyone else does. Spending thousands of dollars on trashy porn stars is crazy.

Did he in fact leave RU or is this just a rumor? Locating Josh is like finding that elusive Sasquatch in the forest. Every time we think we're close, he slips by us yet again...

I think we're going to need to charter a 747 for our one-way trip to hell. I'm not sure a bus can hold us all.

Or D.B. Cooper or Where's Waldo

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

The lawsuit said that he spent $600 on admission plus lap dances, then $1,500 for sex with the porn star. $2,100 in one night. It appears that Josh spent a lot of money on his "issue". This thing goes a lot further than cheating on his wife. Josh has extreme problems. Child molestation of his sisters plus a babysitter that came to their house, followed by thousands of dollars to feed his problem. Josh is a real problem. I think it's in the family's best interest to cut him loose as though he never existed. He really is a sicko. Even if it was Michelle and Jim Bob's fault, in the interest of every single other person in the family, they all have to stay away from him. He will destroy them all.

If I was Anna - especially now with no income and living off of JimBob - I think I'd probably be most pissed off about that $2100. Seriously, even with the insane amount the FRC was paying him and the TLC money, $2100 is a lot for someone with four kids to spend on a night out at the strip club. It's not like Josh has Justin Beiber levels of money or anything. $2100 could have sent Josh (or Anna) to the community college for a semester, been put away for a rainy day (like recent days), or put into some sort of college fund for the M kids so they could get the educations their dad always wanted for himself. Heck, it could have bought Meredith many pairs of impractical overpriced boots to wear throughout her child and kept all the kids in new Gymboree clothes until they grew out of the store's sizes. Several season tickets for Razorbacks games could also have been purchased with that money.

If going to the strip club and spending a couple thousand a night was a regular occurrence, I'd be livid if I was Anna. And Josh definitely could have gotten a four year public college degree for the money he was spending at the strip coin if he was going several times a month throughout his marriage.

Do you all think Anna had no access to their banking info to check the balances? Even if Josh paid with cash, she'd have to have noticed that a lot of cash withdrawals were made and wonder what was up. Or did Josh have some sly excuse? Or did he control all the financials for the family and gave Anna an allowance to fund the household with?

[Aja]

Josh should have just had an affair at work like everyone else does. Spending thousands of dollars on trashy porn stars is crazy.

 

Ah, spoken like someone who is physically and personally appealing enough to attract potential lovers. This is JOSH we're talking about.

[zenme]

The lawsuit said that he spent $600 on admission plus lap dances, then $1,500 for sex with the porn star. $2,100 in one night. It appears that Josh spent a lot of money on his "issue".

 

Can you imagine Jimbo's brain exploding at the idea of Josh spending all that money on that! On top of the molestation, on top of the cheating, on top of the strip clubs, he spent thousands of dollars on this! Thousands! From Mr. Buy Used and Save the Difference, the thought of Josh blowing all that money on sex probably makes him want to strangle him. 

[Churchhoney]

Josh should have just had an affair at work like everyone else does. Spending thousands of dollars on trashy porn stars is crazy.

 

 

I expect he was intimidated by those women. And rightly so. Since I would bet that their contempt for and resentment of him knew no bounds.

 

From his point of view, I'm sure it made much more sense to creep away to somebody in the sex trade for whom his physical attraction could be coupled with contempt from his end so he could smack her around as a way of venting his frustrations at and his disdain for all women (except mommy Michelle, perhaps).

 

And since I'm not one who believes he saw all that many sex workers, I doubt that the money was much of an issue. He was certainly making in the high-five or low-six figures at his DC job, plus whatever they were getting from TLC. So 2100 wouldn't seem like that much, or even be noticed. He and Anna were throwing around plenty on trashy, ego-boosting vehicles, among other things.

[dillpickles]

Can you imagine Jimbo's brain exploding at the idea of Josh spending all that money on that! On top of the molestation, on top of the cheating, on top of the strip clubs, he spent thousands of dollars on this! Thousands! From Mr. Buy Used and Save the Difference, the thought of Josh blowing all that money on sex probably makes him want to strangle him.

Well to be fair, paying for a pornstar is buying used...

[Churchhoney]

Did he in fact leave RU or is this just a rumor? Locating Josh is like finding that elusive Sasquatch in the forest. Every time we think we're close, he slips by us yet again...

 

 

 

Too bad that, unlike the Sasquatch, Josh actually does exist. ... He's considerably less attractive than the Man-Ape, though, I must say.

[Vaysh]

From Mr. Buy Used and Save the Difference, the thought of Josh blowing all that money on sex probably makes him want to strangle him.

Which was probably one of the reasons Josh did it. As a big fuck you to Daddy Dirtcheap. Openly spending huge amounts of cash on frivolities might've been a little too in your face for Josh, but to do it on the sly, on something as naughty and sinful as sex with a porn star stripper? It's like ticking off every box that would piss off Boob AND getting away with it. Passive-aggressive behaviour at it's finest.

[JoanArc]

 

Josh should have just had an affair at work like everyone else does. Spending thousands of dollars on trashy porn stars is crazy.

Woman #2 wasn't a sex worker. God knows how he roped her in.

[BitterApple]

Ah, spoken like someone who is physically and personally appealing enough to attract potential lovers. This is JOSH we're talking about.

Lmfao, I just laughed so hard I startled my dog out of his nap. I just figured there was some sort of niche market for chubby, balding homophobes.

[Churchhoney]

. Passive-aggressive behaviour at it's finest.

 

Plenty of evidence suggests that this is one of the strongest shared traits of the Duggar family.

[BitterApple]

Woman #2 wasn't a sex worker. God knows how he roped her in.

Wait a minute, there's another woman?! I thought it was just this Danica chick. How am I so far behind?

[Churchhoney]

Wait a minute, there's another woman?! I thought it was just this Danica chick. How am I so far behind?

 

Some other dame claimed it a few months ago. her story sank without much of a trace, though -- so far, at least -- so whether it's true, false, accurate or hyped is even more unknown.

http://www.ibtimes.com/josh-duggars-reputed-mistress-had-pregnancy-scare-after-unprotected-sex-during-ashley-2080241

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3221992/Second-mistress-Josh-Duggar-claims-suffered-pregnancy-scare-unprotected-sex-disgraced-star-goes-missing-Christian-rehab-clinic.html

[Marigold]

This is the tip of the iceberg. I bet Josh spents tons of money and time on his little "sin".

Josh truly is disgusting.

The entire Duggar clan, including Anna, need to permanently shun this piece of garbage.

[GeeGolly]

Sadly, JB and Michelle need to take part of the blame in what is going on with Josh, but he needs to take a hard long look at himself. Blaming others for what he did as a teenager and a grown man with a wife and kids is not going to help him. Man up Josh. If getting the treatment he may need and getting away from his parents and siblings is the best thing for him, he needs to do so. He went to D.C. to sell his family's political and religious beliefs. Sadly, I do not think he has his own original thoughts. Yes, his education and real life skills are lacking, but he is the one who can improve himself. He should not be expecting his parents, Anna, or Jesus to do it for him.

This is so true, yet JB & M need to realize their son is a grown ass man and give him the opportunity to man up. They continue to stunt his growth and responsibility at every turn. Josh reminds of a young celebrity with all this money, surrounded by yes men, without the brain development to handle it. Mom & pop need to back off and let Josh swim on his own for once.

[Aja]

This is so true, yet JB & M need to realize their son is a grown ass man and give him the opportunity to man up. They continue to stunt his growth and responsibility at every turn. Josh reminds of a young celebrity with all this money, surrounded by yes men, without the brain development to handle it. Mom & pop need to back off and let Josh swim on his own for once.

I'd also add that Josh simply isn't intelligent enough to think critically. While I do think that Josh has a lot of inherent doucheness that he was born with (most fourteen year-olds know that diddling their sisters is disgusting. Most husbands know that spending $2000 to nail a porn star while your pregnant wife is taking care of your other children is less than Godly,) I also do not see any possible way Josh could ever get himself out of this mess. It would need to involve self-awareness and a true desire/motivation to change, and Josh has neither.

[Churchhoney]

This is so true, yet JB & M need to realize their son is a grown ass man and give him the opportunity to man up. They continue to stunt his growth and responsibility at every turn. Josh reminds of a young celebrity with all this money, surrounded by yes men, without the brain development to handle it. Mom & pop need to back off and let Josh swim on his own for once.

 

Unfortunately, since they apparently view all their children (and grandchildren) merely as appendages of themselves, I doubt that this will happen. .... I think this is one of the consequences of their sick enmeshed ownership of their children. They don't really care for them or about them, but they don't view them as having any autonomy either. They exist merely as extensions of the parents' egos. I don't think Jim Bob and Michelle have any idea at all how to treat their children as actual human beings -- or even any idea that it would be important to do so.

[bigskygirl]

JB and Michelle think blaming the devil for their son's actions will solve the problem. 19 Delusions and Counting.

[lookeyloo]

Probably some of them would sleep with him for the fame of it "I slept with Josh Duggar" like he was some kind of prize.  

[Darknight]

Josh is so dumb. Seriously he has no common sense. And what's next a pregnancy by another woman? Josh did you forget unprotected sex leads to pregnancy and stds

[Purpose to defraud]

Wait a minute, there's another woman?! I thought it was just this Danica chick. How am I so far behind?

To be fair, Josh has had a busy time, scandal wise!

[BrianJ62]

Turnabout's fair play.

Karma is a *itch, Jared Fogle found that out today.

Edited November 19, 2015 by BrianJ62

[Tabbygirl521]

Josh truly is disgusting.

The entire Duggar clan, including Anna, need to permanently shun this piece of garbage.

At a brief glance, I thought this was a haiku.

[Churchhoney]

The lawsuit said that he spent $600 on admission plus lap dances, then $1,500 for sex with the porn star. $2,100 in one night. It appears that Josh spent a lot of money on his "issue". This thing goes a lot further than cheating on his wife. Josh has extreme problems. Child molestation of his sisters plus a babysitter that came to their house, followed by thousands of dollars to feed his problem. Josh is a real problem. I think it's in the family's best interest to cut him loose as though he never existed. He really is a sicko. Even if it was Michelle and Jim Bob's fault, in the interest of every single other person in the family, they all have to stay away from him. He will destroy them all.

 

Too late. Michelle and Jim Bob already destroyed them all. The kids -- and the public -- just don't know it yet.

Edited November 19, 2015 by Churchhoney

[ChocolateAddict]

I wonder if Josh ever regrets the show.  Sure it meant that there was an actual house to live in and he could get a holier-than-thou job but if it hadn't been for 19K&C, he could have molested his sisters, had affairs and thrown porn stars around without the world caring. 

 

He probably doesn't and is still blaming the evil media/Satan/whatever but it's nice to think that maybe, just maybe, one of the Duggar's might have some sort of brain.  

[Churchhoney]

Agreed. This is a passive aggressive masterpiece. The ultimate FU, Mom and Dad.

The Duggars seem to like to consider themselves as savers of souls for Jesus, but their firstborn is one of the most lost souls I've witnessed. I doubt Josh Duggar has even the faintest clue about who he is and what he wants. Passive aggressiveness seems the only tool he knows.

 

And ditto most of the rest of the family. Look at the passive aggressive fury that shows up in every damn one of Jessa's social-media posts. And the "sweet" sniping back and forth between her and Jill during the latest baby making period. Etc. This is what Michelle and Jim Bob hath wrought. And it ain't gonna get any better as the good life brought by reality tv slowly recedes from the grasp of the Duggar kids and hardly a one has anything of substance to replace it with, either materially or non-materially. The passive-aggressive Duggar war of the worlds is just beginning.

[JoanArc]

 

I think that they have to cut Josh loose before he hurts every single one of them any more than he has already.

Loose lips sink reality tv shows.

 

 

Some other dame claimed it a few months ago. her story sank without much of a trace, though -- so far, at least -- so whether it's true, false, accurate or hyped is even more unknown.

Paid off by Jim Bob - or more likely, someone with a DC reputation to protect.

[Churchhoney]

I think that Michelle and Jim Bob are scum balls. I think that they handled the entire Josh problem horrendously. I think that their belief system probably caused Josh's problem in the first place. However, he has caused them to lose their livelihood and still may cost them thousands and thousands of dollars more. Should all of the children suffer because Josh is screwed up? Should Josie, Jordan, or the other children pay the price for what Jim Bob, Michelle,, and Josh did? Should Josh's children? Even though Jim Bob and Michelle hold blame, you can't hurt them without hurting their innocent children and grandchildren. I think that they have to cut Josh loose before he hurts every single one of them any more than he has already.

 

Yeah, see the difference between your view and my view is that, in my view, Michelle and Jim Bob hurt those kids every single day, in multiple ways, and have done since each kid was born. I was raised by people that I think were very similar to the Duggars in some essential ways, so to me they represent a toxicity and spiritual damage that's incalculable -- to every single kid, compounded by every day those kids live with them. To me, all a disgusting stupid brother can add is some bad publicity for the family and the loss of some more money. Josh isn't enmeshed with those kids, brainwashing those kids, depriving those kids of knowledge and opportunity and autonomy when they don't even know it. He isn't convincing them that falsehood in communication, denying all of one's true feelings and manufacturing your life to look good for reality tv are virtues. When those are really things that destroy your soul and your ability to live like a normal human being, possibly for life. It's Michelle and Jim Bob who are doing all that really damaging crap. 

 

Meanwhile, Josh is nothing but a jerky passerby who may cost the family some money. And, frankly, if the loss of Duggar money motivated some of the older kids to get the hell out of that household, I'd  consider that a great benefit. And if the Josh scandal caused TLC to rethink their obvious plan to continue airing Duggar crap (although it won't, I'm sure), I'd think that was a huge benefit. The sooner they get off tv, the better for all of them, in my opinion. Beyond those external things, Josh has no power to "destroy" the family, in my opinion. The other kids don't seem to have much relationship with him. He doesn't seem to want much relationship with them. It's the people who are enmeshed with you who destroy you, not passersby.

 

Obviously, mileage varies on this.. To me, though, the world vastly vastly underestimates the evil Michelle and Jim Bob have perpetrated on all their kids and continue to perpetrate (along with TLC), and vastly overestimates how much harm can come to a kid from having a brother who slept with a prostitute. When it comes to money loss, for example, if Jim Bob and Michelle don't want to, they don't have to spend another dime on Josh. I fear that they probably will spend dimes, though -- but not because of their love for Josh but for the same reason they do everything -- to protect their "brand" and their ability to make money without working. In my opinion, there really is no reason for them to lose more money due to Josh. And to me the loss of the show wouldn't be the loss of a livelihood -- it'd be the loss of an evil serpent that's done nothing but help JB and M destroy their children!

Edited November 20, 2015 by Churchhoney

[JoanArc]

 

What do you think the solution is then?

Even really excellent shrinks would have a hard time fixing this family. IMO, being able to freely express feelings, desires, and autonomy would go a hell of a long way.

[Churchhoney]

I'm not being snarky, I am sincerely asking. What do you think the solution is then? Would the children be better off in foster care? Jim Bob and Michelle will never change their views.

 

Well, I think they really are in very bad trouble, and I'm not sure there is a solution. In my opinion, Michelle and Jim Bob have done a number on those kids that some of them -- maybe many of them -- never will be able to recover from.

 

For the older ones, I think the only possibility for improvement is leaving. And I don't think there's a chance in heck that any of them will leave as long as the tv show is there or has any possibility of being there. I truly think that only a money crunch and the complete end to the possibility of tv will alert some of those kids that they have to get out and do something on their own -- and will also possibly push Michelle and Jim Bob into grudgingly allowing it. Because as long as there's the ghost of a chance of a tv show or any media exposure, then they're going to bribe and bludgeon the kids into staying around to help bolster the family image and the kids will do it, both because they're very much controlled by their parents and because they'll have the hope of continued money and perks and, for some of them, the fame that they've come to enjoy and rely on.

 

Then, to me, if some of the older ones actually did leave as the media circus ended, they'd start finding something out about the world beyond the gates. And then there's a chance that they'd start communicating some of that to the younger kids. I do think M and JB are probably a bit worn out as controllers at this point, and I can see them not grasping quite as tightly as they may have in the past to keep the younger kids away from the influence of any older ones who may come to visit with some new ideas. And maybe some of the younger kids could start envisioning a different kind of life for themselves. And envisioning it is at least the start of trying to get it.

 

Unfortunately, I do think it's possible to mess up your children so badly that there's little hope of them ever really recovering. Josh is just an irritant that's truly irrelevant to 99.9 percent of what's gone wrong and is going wrong in that household, to me!

[wilsie]

 

Yeah, see the difference between your view and my view is that, in my view, Michelle and Jim Bob hurt those kids every single day, in multiple ways, and have done since each kid was born. I was raised by people that I think were very similar to the Duggars in some essential ways, so to me they represent a toxicity and spiritual damage that's incalculable -- to every single kid, compounded by every day those kids live with them. To me, all a disgusting stupid brother can add is some bad publicity for the family and the loss of some more money. Josh isn't enmeshed with those kids, brainwashing those kids, depriving those kids of knowledge and opportunity and autonomy when they don't even know it. He isn't convincing them that falsehood in communication, denying all of one's true feelings and manufacturing your life to look good for reality tv are virtues. When those are really things that destroy your soul and your ability to live like a normal human being, possibly for life. It's Michelle and Jim Bob who are doing all that really damaging crap.

 

Meanwhile, Josh is nothing but a jerky passerby who may cost the family some money. And, frankly, if the loss of Duggar money motivated some of the older kids to get the hell out of that household, I'd  consider that a great benefit. And if the Josh scandal caused TLC to rethink their obvious plan to continue airing Duggar crap (although it won't, I'm sure), I'd think that was a huge benefit. The sooner they get off tv, the better for all of them, in my opinion. Beyond those external things, Josh has no power to "destroy" the family, in my opinion. The other kids don't seem to have much relationship with him. He doesn't seem to want much relationship with them. It's the people who are enmeshed with you who destroy you, not passersby.

 

Obviously, mileage varies on this.. To me, though, the world vastly vastly underestimates the evil Michelle and Jim Bob have perpetrated on all their kids and continue to perpetrate (along with TLC), and vastly overestimates how much harm can come to a kid from having a brother who slept with a prostitute.

I didn't grow up with any of this and I couldn't agree with you more, churchhoney.

[Churchhoney]

I think that money matters when there are 25+ mouths to feed.

I agree that money matters! But how many adults do they have in that household who are now not doing any paying work?  JIm Bob could work harder -- he's spawned all these kids, so it's his duty to work! Michelle could work with him -- they could revive and try to grow the real estate business. They did it once! They could encourage John David to get a job that pays instead of having him be a hobby pilot so much of the time. Jana, Jinger, Ben, Josiah, etc., could be encouraged to work outside the home -- or make something or do something that non-Duggars would want to pay for or buy! .... There's no reason that a group of adults that size can't support themselves, especially because they're obviously starting out with a bit of a financial cushion from past earnings! (Jim Bob bought two airplanes in the past two to three years! He's got a bit of cash somewhere!)

 

ETA: (and they shouldn't spend one thin dime on Josh -- although they'll probably need to help Anna out some. Josh needs to go out and get a job in a car wash or whatever, keep his nose clean and work his way up, paying his own way and living within his means. Just like everybody else!)

Edited November 20, 2015 by Churchhoney

[NEGirl]

MyPeopleAreNordic - I think Josh was probably in charge of the money and gave Anna a weekly allowance.  I would bet she had no access to their checking/saving accounts.

[MarysWetBar]

If I was Anna - especially now with no income and living off of JimBob - I think I'd probably be most pissed off about that $2100. Seriously, even with the insane amount the FRC was paying him and the TLC money, $2100 is a lot for someone with four kids to spend on a night out at the strip club. It's not like Josh has Justin Beiber levels of money or anything. $2100 could have sent Josh (or Anna) to the community college for a semester, been put away for a rainy day (like recent days), or put into some sort of college fund for the M kids so they could get the educations their dad always wanted for himself. Heck, it could have bought Meredith many pairs of impractical overpriced boots to wear throughout her child and kept all the kids in new Gymboree clothes until they grew out of the store's sizes. Several season tickets for Razorbacks games could also have been purchased with that money.

If going to the strip club and spending a couple thousand a night was a regular occurrence, I'd be livid if I was Anna. And Josh definitely could have gotten a four year public college degree for the money he was spending at the strip coin if he was going several times a month throughout his marriage.

Do you all think Anna had no access to their banking info to check the balances? Even if Josh paid with cash, she'd have to have noticed that a lot of cash withdrawals were made and wonder what was up. Or did Josh have some sly excuse? Or did he control all the financials for the family and gave Anna an allowance to fund the household with?

Likely those sweeet saweeeeeeet TLC dolla dolla bills.

Perhaps he had his own contract for their little family. Lookin over legal contracts ain't wimmins work. She likely had zero clues what they were making. He could have told her nothing. .his daddy did the banking. Remember? Slyyyyyy

Edited November 20, 2015 by MarysWetBar

[MarysWetBar]

At a brief glance, I thought this was a haiku.

[Purpose to defraud]

I'm not being snarky, I am sincerely asking. What do you think the solution is then? Would the children be better off in foster care? Jim Bob and Michelle will never change their views.

I think that money matters when there are 25+ mouths to feed.

Money matters to us all. That doesn't mean we deserve a tv show. Most of us work.

[Wellfleet]

Josh should have just had an affair at work like everyone else does. Spending thousands of dollars on trashy porn stars is crazy.

Did he in fact leave RU or is this just a rumor? Locating Josh is like finding that elusive Sasquatch in the forest. Every time we think we're close, he slips by us yet again...

I think we're going to need to charter a 747 for our one-way trip to hell. I'm not sure a bus can hold us all.

 

This is what I wonder too. Has Josh really hauled his bee-hind - or is this just conjecture? No one really seems to know. At the rate we're going, I honestly think this forum will know before any of the tabloids. We have some awesomely-skilled and intrepid hunters in this group.

[BitterApple]

Wellfleet, we do have some amazing Internet detectives on this board! Maybe we should leave a pile of Chik-fil-a sandwiches underneath one of those old fashioned cage traps and see if we can lure Joshie out of hiding.

[Arwen Evenstar]

Agree! People that don't have an issue with  porn do not have their computers filled with it. A site or two in their search history not THOUSANDS of saved videos. Josh's computer must be filled to the brim. Yikes!

And.....the keyboard is likely very sticky !

Ewwwwwwwwww!

II'm off to the prayer closet...that visual was just too deeply disturbing...

[cmr2014]

I think Jim Bob is going to pay off Danica to shut her up and then he drop Josh like a bag of rocks. Josh will be hidden away in the attic like they did years ago to the "crazy uncle".

In a few years, Josh will emerge with a book. But that's a long way in the future. For now, Joshie will be on lock down until Jim Bob can get the Duggar brand up and moving again.

 

It occurred to me that this may have nothing to do with $500,000. Since the sex was consensual -- and happened twice -- and there was no police involvement, I think she would have a hard time making a case. But, suppose her lawyers fees were being paid by a tabloid, and that tabloid was promising to pay her for every deposition that she leaked to them? I don't think that JB would pay her $25 to go away -- he's just too cheap.

 

I think that Josh is 100% the most likely to write a book at this point, and I think that JB and J'chelle know it. I think that's the only leverage he has right now, but it's pretty solid. JB and J'chelle will pay up to keep up the appearance of a loving family and a reformed Josh.