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Jim Bob must be absolutely furious at Josh. Due to him, the family lost their show and speaking engagements. So after he lost his income, because of Josh, JB has to support Anna and the children and pay for the rehab. Now Josh is being sued and JB has to pay to deal with the lawsuit. Josh's mistakes are costing JB a fortune.

 

Boob's mistakes are costing Boob plenty too...

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New show title: 10 to 20 Years and Counting 

MargeGunderson
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Someone on Reddit just described Josh’s face as a glistening glazed ham. I am considering divorcing my husband and marrying that poster. 

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Well, for many of us, it's the difference between 'imperfect' and 'non-PC' and being a criminal.  Josh is a child molester and his parents actively intervened in his situation to avoid him being punis

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Beats taking it.

 

Boob has to be one of the last people on Earth that I can imagine actually taking advice from anyone else. Anyone - including his own family and friends. He has some kind of toxic sense of superiority - and where that came from is beyond me. Unless he really was raised as the Golden Male Child in his family. Nope, unless it coincides perfectly with his own thinking, Boob is going to do exactly what Boob thinks he should do. I think he honestly believes his reactions, impulses and solutions are always correct and always godly - no matter what the situation. I think he'd cross Got-hard himself if he didn't agree with his assessment of what to do. 

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IMO, Boob is way too cheap to ever pay this girl off to save Josh.  I think Josh will be on his own.  I think Boob knows the empire has fallen and is never going to be rebuilt. Everyone does remember how cheap Boob is right?

 

I think he will cut Josh loose faster than you can say tater tot casserole. 

 

But, you know what I hear in the background?  Stomping of Ugg boots from Jill and Jessa.  They must be pissed. 

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Aja

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I'm sure Boob sees absolutely no fault on his part in any of this. I have weird little isolated compartments of compassion for Josh, and this is definitely one of them. I consider Josh and all of his dysfunction over the years to be an obvious and direct result of his repressed and ignorant upbringing. Obsessive sexual repression coupled with being constantly lauded some special snowflake because of his gender/his position in the birthing order coupled with every single stupid thing he's done since the age of 16 or so, including his handsex courtship, fund-tastic wedding and subsequent spawning, being national news, it's sort of hard to believe that the molestations and Ashley Madison stuff is the extent of it. But neither Boob nor Josh himself will see it that way. Either they'll encourage Josh to blame the sluts who tempted him, which will lay the foundations for some spectacular future scandals we here on PreviouslyTV can all look forward to, or he'll become the Lost Duggar who never shows up on Duggar social media (which, in Duggarland, means you're basically dead.) Either way, Josh is going to get pushed further into his own dysfunction and it's extremely sad.

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I'm still half waiting to find out he's got another child or children out there, too. (and yes I realize I'm contradicting myself since I was just talking about not wanting them to get any more press)

 

I'm waiting for the one bit of news that I think MIGHT trump all other Duggar stories this year - maybe of any year. That Josh has had all-male "experiences" too. This would absolutely render Boob catatonic. What could he possibly say? I can't imagine anyone in the family or even extended family tackling this. Oh wait - I forgot about TFDW. 

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Marigold

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I think Jim Bob is going to pay off Danica to shut her up and then he drop Josh like a bag of rocks. Josh will be hidden away in the attic like they did years ago to the "crazy uncle".

In a few years, Josh will emerge with a book. But that's a long way in the future. For now, Joshie will be on lock down until Jim Bob can get the Duggar brand up and moving again.

Aja

Aja

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Oh, GayJosh would mean shunned for sure, if he's not already. I think it's weird that we get updated every time Jill or Jessa take a piss, but there hasn't been one word about how terrific Josh is doing "searching his soul" and "returning to the path of God" with "joy in his heart" and "renewed love and loyalty for his masochistic wife" and "the heart of a servant." 

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I think the lack of updates is because they're supposed to be taking the whole "rehab" thing seriously.  As if it was a legit program with medical professionals.  

 

And the less they say about his "progress", the less they'll have to eventually take back or will be refuted down the road.  Josh will once again rain shame and humiliation down on his family by relapsing, or allowing something even worse to be exposed.  I truly believe it will happen.  And I will relish it. 

 

For once, they are doing the wise thing and not saying a word.  People can't twist your words when you are silent. 

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JoanArc

JoanArc

Imagine an African American family, who had baby after baby while crying to the community for support and help.

 

Any race other than White, any religion other than Christian, ans slightly less telegenic and the Duggars would be digging though dumpsters for food. Instead, they get a Magazine and Cable channel dedicated to their lives.

    I'm still half waiting to find out he's got another child or children out there, too. (and yes I realize I'm contradicting myself since I was just talking about not wanting them to get any more press)

 

You're not the only one. Or at least, Josh paid for a woman's Big A.

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Wellfleet

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I'm sure Boob sees absolutely no fault on his part in any of this. I have weird little isolated compartments of compassion for Josh, and this is definitely one of them. I consider Josh and all of his dysfunction over the years to be an obvious and direct result of his repressed and ignorant upbringing. Obsessive sexual repression coupled with being constantly lauded some special snowflake because of his gender/his position in the birthing order coupled with every single stupid thing he's done since the age of 16 or so, including his handsex courtship, fund-tastic wedding and subsequent spawning, being national news, it's sort of hard to believe that the molestations and Ashley Madison stuff is the extent of it. But neither Boob nor Josh himself will see it that way. Either they'll encourage Josh to blame the sluts who tempted him, which will lay the foundations for some spectacular future scandals we here on PreviouslyTV can all look forward to, or he'll become the Lost Duggar who never shows up on Duggar social media (which, in Duggarland, means you're basically dead.) Either way, Josh is going to get pushed further into his own dysfunction and it's extremely sad.

 

I still have no idea what the future holds for Josh - none. Up to now he hasn't shown much of a propensity for hard work and achieving goals, so the possibility that he'll eventually overcome really doesn't seem very likely. But there's one thing I am sure about. Boob feels absolutely no responsibility for Josh's situation whatsoever. He was the perfect father. He did everything right. He did everything right MULTIPLE times too. But Satan still hasn't released the Golden Child. I think Boob is thinking, "It's Me-chelle's fault - we're still paying for that damn husband-stealing, lawn-mowing high school bikini..."

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Churchhoney

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You're not the only one. Or at least, Josh paid for a woman's Big A.

 

I sort of wonder if Josh might not be so cheap and generally wimpy that he didn't actually do it with many women -- making the odds of a pregnancy pretty low. He's such a slug, can't see him showing a whole lot of enterprise, even when it came to sex.

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JoanArc

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I sort of wonder if Josh might not be so cheap and generally wimpy that he didn't actually do it with many women -- making the odds of a pregnancy pretty low. He's such a slug, can't see him showing a whole lot of enterprise, even when it came to sex.

I disagree. it's the one area where he shows guile, slyness, and work ethic. I'd like to know who the non-porn star woman who came forward as having the pregnancy scare is.

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doodlebug

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Are defendants awarded costs in civil litigation in AmericaAre defendants awarded costs in civil litigation in America

 

No, they are not.  The only time a defendant can recover their costs is in the case where the plaintiff loses (obviously).  The defendant can then countersue claiming the lawsuit was frivolous.  If it is found that the original suit was indeed without merit, the original defendant can be awarded cost of litigation to be paid by the original plaintiff.  Almost never happens because 1) lawyers don't want to countersue because it ticks off the other party's attorneys who have already wasted their own time and money for the first suit which they lost (the plaintiff almost always hires a lawyer on contingency so the lawsuit costs the plaintiff nothing unless he/she wins and 2) US courts are very plaintiff friendly and it is extremely difficult to convince a judge and jury that the original claim was bogus so almost no one wins anyway.

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kokapetl

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I think Jim Bob is going to pay off Danica to shut her up and then he drop Josh like a bag of rocks. Josh will be hidden away in the attic like they did years ago to the "crazy uncle".

In a few years, Josh will emerge with a book. But that's a long way in the future. For now, Joshie will be on lock down until Jim Bob can get the Duggar brand up and moving again.

They'll never find his body. And JimBob will have 18+ eyewitnesses who swear that Josh told them all he was moving to the Amazon Jungle, and he was never coming back. Edited by Kokapetl
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Churchhoney

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I disagree. it's the one area where he shows guile, slyness, and work ethic. I'd like to know who the non-porn star woman who came forward as having the pregnancy scare is.

 

Could be. I guess he showed some enterprise by going to Pennsylvania and in scaling those bunk beds back in the day. I'm still not convinced that he used more energy in his pursuit of sex than pretty much everybody does, though. The search for sex hypes up everybody's motivation pretty drastically, I think, but I also think you're still somewhat constrained by the overall energy with which you're equipped!

 

I guess my experience among my own acquaintance suggests that among people with practical constraints such as children, only a handful manage to assemble a really large number of sex partners -- on the sly or even openly, and even if you're paying for them. And Josh seems a helluva lot more sluggish -- not to mention cowardly, tied to daddy's apron strings, prone to weep in the driveway when moving from mama's house, etc. -- than the people I know who've actually done that! It'll be fascinating to see what does come out and how this all unfolds.

 

I guess I'm just not buying the vision of Josh Duggar -- Lothario, powerful super-scary lover, Don Juan and Casanova. ha      Something tells me his main companion has still been his fist.

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JenCarroll

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I'm waiting for the one bit of news that I think MIGHT trump all other Duggar stories this year - maybe of any year. That Josh has had all-male "experiences" too. This would absolutely render Boob catatonic. What could he possibly say? I can't imagine anyone in the family or even extended family tackling this. Oh wait - I forgot about TFDW.

I really want this to happen.

Somebody's saving me a seat on the bus to Hell, right?

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kokapetl

kokapetl

I'm waiting for the one bit of news that I think MIGHT trump all other Duggar stories this year - maybe of any year. That Josh has had all-male "experiences" too. This would absolutely render Boob catatonic. What could he possibly say? I can't imagine anyone in the family or even extended family tackling this. Oh wait - I forgot about TFDW.

Josh traveling the old dirt road? I hope Michelle's psychiatrist has a family discount.
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IMO, Boob is way too cheap to ever pay this girl off to save Josh. I think Josh will be on his own. I think Boob knows the empire has fallen and is never going to be rebuilt. Everyone does remember how cheap Boob is right?

I think he will cut Josh loose faster than you can say tater tot casserole.

But, you know what I hear in the background? Stomping of Ugg boots from Jill and Jessa. They must be pissed.

Once again, the misadventures of Josh's wandering penis stole their thumper thunder. She named that baby Spurgeon for nothing!

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kokapetl

kokapetl

I saw it somewhere on here. She gave the advice in an interview when she was still pregnant with M4, probably before Josh scandal #1. She's been pretty tight lipped since Josh scandal #2.
BrianJ62

BrianJ62

It's a past interview - not recent.

Cool, thank you.

I saw it somewhere on here. She gave the advice in an interview when she was still pregnant with M4, probably before Josh scandal #1. She's been pretty tight lipped since Josh scandal #2.

Thanks.

I really want this to happen.

Somebody's saving me a seat on the bus to Hell, right?

I'm the bus driver on the highway to hell, maybe I should right a song about it called Highway to Hell, damm its already been done.

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

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The lawsuit said that he spent $600 on admission plus lap dances, then $1,500 for sex with the porn star. $2,100 in one night. It appears that Josh spent a lot of money on his "issue". This thing goes a lot further than cheating on his wife. Josh has extreme problems. Child molestation of his sisters plus a babysitter that came to their house, followed by thousands of dollars to feed his problem. Josh is a real problem. I think it's in the family's best interest to cut him loose as though he never existed. He really is a sicko. Even if it was Michelle and Jim Bob's fault, in the interest of every single other person in the family, they all have to stay away from him. He will destroy them all.

 

Of course, I could extend that argument and say that the best thing for every single Duggar kid is to cut itself loose from Jim Bob and Michelle as well. In my opinion, they're at least as sick, toxic and dangerous as Josh -- and likely more so -- albeit in different ways.

 

Living in Duggarland is to be utterly enmeshed in several -- at least -- very damaging relationships. As well as to be kept away from any knowledge that would help you understand that or empower you to escape from them.

 

It's horrifying to me that they're now churning out this new generation of babies and locking them into the same sick fuckup.

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bigskygirl

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Sadly, JB and Michelle need to take part of the blame in what is going on with Josh, but he needs to take a hard long look at himself. Blaming others for what he did as a teenager and a grown man with a wife and kids is not going to help him. Man up Josh. If getting the treatment he may need and getting away from his parents and siblings is the best thing for him, he needs to do so. He went to D.C. to sell his family's political and religious beliefs. Sadly, I do not think he has his own original thoughts. Yes, his education and real life skills are lacking, but he is the one who can improve himself. He should not be expecting his parents, Anna, or Jesus to do it for him.

Churchhoney

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Sadly, JB and Michelle need to take part of the blame in what is going on with Josh, but he needs to take a hard long look at himself. Blaming others for what he did as a teenager and a grown man with a wife and kids is not going to help him. Man up Josh. If getting the treatment he may need and getting away from his parents and siblings is the best thing for him, he needs to do so. He went to D.C. to sell his family's political and religious beliefs. Sadly, I do not think he has his own original thoughts. Yes, his education and real life skills are lacking, but he is the one who can improve himself. He should not be expecting his parents, Anna, or Jesus to do it for him.

 

 

So far as I can see, nobody in Duggardom ever takes responsibility for anything. From Jim Bob and Michelle on down. It's always God doing it or Satan doing it or some enemies doing it, or some excuse that it -- whatever it was -- happened. And Josh actually seems to me to be one of the limper, lazier, wimpier members of the crew. So I fear we'll be waiting a long time for this development.

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BitterApple

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Josh should have just had an affair at work like everyone else does. Spending thousands of dollars on trashy porn stars is crazy.

Did he in fact leave RU or is this just a rumor? Locating Josh is like finding that elusive Sasquatch in the forest. Every time we think we're close, he slips by us yet again...

I think we're going to need to charter a 747 for our one-way trip to hell. I'm not sure a bus can hold us all.

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BrianJ62

BrianJ62

Josh should have just had an affair at work like everyone else does. Spending thousands of dollars on trashy porn stars is crazy.

Did he in fact leave RU or is this just a rumor? Locating Josh is like finding that elusive Sasquatch in the forest. Every time we think we're close, he slips by us yet again...

I think we're going to need to charter a 747 for our one-way trip to hell. I'm not sure a bus can hold us all.

Or D.B. Cooper or Where's Waldo

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MyPeopleAreNordic

MyPeopleAreNordic

The lawsuit said that he spent $600 on admission plus lap dances, then $1,500 for sex with the porn star. $2,100 in one night. It appears that Josh spent a lot of money on his "issue". This thing goes a lot further than cheating on his wife. Josh has extreme problems. Child molestation of his sisters plus a babysitter that came to their house, followed by thousands of dollars to feed his problem. Josh is a real problem. I think it's in the family's best interest to cut him loose as though he never existed. He really is a sicko. Even if it was Michelle and Jim Bob's fault, in the interest of every single other person in the family, they all have to stay away from him. He will destroy them all.

If I was Anna - especially now with no income and living off of JimBob - I think I'd probably be most pissed off about that $2100. Seriously, even with the insane amount the FRC was paying him and the TLC money, $2100 is a lot for someone with four kids to spend on a night out at the strip club. It's not like Josh has Justin Beiber levels of money or anything. $2100 could have sent Josh (or Anna) to the community college for a semester, been put away for a rainy day (like recent days), or put into some sort of college fund for the M kids so they could get the educations their dad always wanted for himself. Heck, it could have bought Meredith many pairs of impractical overpriced boots to wear throughout her child and kept all the kids in new Gymboree clothes until they grew out of the store's sizes. Several season tickets for Razorbacks games could also have been purchased with that money.

If going to the strip club and spending a couple thousand a night was a regular occurrence, I'd be livid if I was Anna. And Josh definitely could have gotten a four year public college degree for the money he was spending at the strip coin if he was going several times a month throughout his marriage.

Do you all think Anna had no access to their banking info to check the balances? Even if Josh paid with cash, she'd have to have noticed that a lot of cash withdrawals were made and wonder what was up. Or did Josh have some sly excuse? Or did he control all the financials for the family and gave Anna an allowance to fund the household with?

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zenme

zenme

The lawsuit said that he spent $600 on admission plus lap dances, then $1,500 for sex with the porn star. $2,100 in one night. It appears that Josh spent a lot of money on his "issue".

 

Can you imagine Jimbo's brain exploding at the idea of Josh spending all that money on that! On top of the molestation, on top of the cheating, on top of the strip clubs, he spent thousands of dollars on this! Thousands! From Mr. Buy Used and Save the Difference, the thought of Josh blowing all that money on sex probably makes him want to strangle him. 

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

Josh should have just had an affair at work like everyone else does. Spending thousands of dollars on trashy porn stars is crazy.

 

 

I expect he was intimidated by those women. And rightly so. Since I would bet that their contempt for and resentment of him knew no bounds.

 

From his point of view, I'm sure it made much more sense to creep away to somebody in the sex trade for whom his physical attraction could be coupled with contempt from his end so he could smack her around as a way of venting his frustrations at and his disdain for all women (except mommy Michelle, perhaps).

 

And since I'm not one who believes he saw all that many sex workers, I doubt that the money was much of an issue. He was certainly making in the high-five or low-six figures at his DC job, plus whatever they were getting from TLC. So 2100 wouldn't seem like that much, or even be noticed. He and Anna were throwing around plenty on trashy, ego-boosting vehicles, among other things.

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Can you imagine Jimbo's brain exploding at the idea of Josh spending all that money on that! On top of the molestation, on top of the cheating, on top of the strip clubs, he spent thousands of dollars on this! Thousands! From Mr. Buy Used and Save the Difference, the thought of Josh blowing all that money on sex probably makes him want to strangle him.

Well to be fair, paying for a pornstar is buying used...

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

Did he in fact leave RU or is this just a rumor? Locating Josh is like finding that elusive Sasquatch in the forest. Every time we think we're close, he slips by us yet again...

 

 

 

Too bad that, unlike the Sasquatch, Josh actually does exist. ... He's considerably less attractive than the Man-Ape, though, I must say.

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Vaysh

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From Mr. Buy Used and Save the Difference, the thought of Josh blowing all that money on sex probably makes him want to strangle him.

Which was probably one of the reasons Josh did it. As a big fuck you to Daddy Dirtcheap. Openly spending huge amounts of cash on frivolities might've been a little too in your face for Josh, but to do it on the sly, on something as naughty and sinful as sex with a porn star stripper? It's like ticking off every box that would piss off Boob AND getting away with it. Passive-aggressive behaviour at it's finest.

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