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Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

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OpieTaylor

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1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

This was the picture I was referring to yesterday. It's from Silver Dollar City on Wednesday. 

Wish Marcus a happy 4th birthday. When one cowboy hat won't do.  

Also wondering where this was taken. There aren't 10000 pictures on the mantle under their Hobby Lobby "art."

I noticed that too, and wonder if whatever house the Smugs are living in, Anna just doesn't have the heart to decorate it and make it their "home"

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Someone on Reddit just described Josh’s face as a glistening glazed ham. I am considering divorcing my husband and marrying that poster. 

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Well, for many of us, it's the difference between 'imperfect' and 'non-PC' and being a criminal.  Josh is a child molester and his parents actively intervened in his situation to avoid him being punis

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Sew Sumi

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1 hour ago, OpieTaylor said:

I noticed that too, and wonder if whatever house the Smugs are living in, Anna just doesn't have the heart to decorate it and make it their "home"

Maybe it's the Pool House, and they keep it neutral for guests to stay in during those few months a year the Dullards are in Danger America?

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SMama

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If you look behind Marcus hat, right side, there is a R on the wall. One of those Hobby Lobby I guess. There are not R last names in  the Duggar herd. 

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Andalusian

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11 minutes ago, louannems said:

I think it's a wide ribbon holding up the R.  Maybe Meredith?

It might just also be a sign that says something like Rejoice, so we might be reading too much in to this.

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drafan

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6 hours ago, Oldernowiser said:

So yes, she looks miserable but she's big pregnant and probably hot as hell there, so...

......by her own doing. NOT feeling sorry for her in the slightest. "Baby Fever" will rear it's ugly head again as soon as this one pops out.

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Sew Sumi

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Pic of Smuggar at Marcus' party. They're getting bolder and bolder...

 

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eta: There's a larger pic on DFO. Not sure why this ended up so small, but actually glad it is. 

Marcus? He's all Keller. He looks just like Suze's daughter, Noelle. Apologies for the appendages in this shot, but it's the clearest one of Marcus. 

 

 

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Lunera

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3 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Pic of Smuggar at Marcus' party. They're getting bolder and bolder...

 

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Yes, they are definitely trying to slowly bring him back. They barely post pictures or bday messages of any of their kids but suddenly they are posting a bunch of Marcus'. And of course they had to sneak in a picture of him with Ana smiling as if everything is okay and dandy. They are disgusting and the leghumpers a eating their shit up.

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JoanArc

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1 hour ago, Oldernowiser said:

Repent.

Can't start that brainwashing too early, you know...

REPRESS. Can't start that too early.

Pics of Josh make me want to punch something. He looks pregnant. I don't know why they think they can bring him back. Might gets ratings for one show, then he's a liability.

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Sew Sumi

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Piano placement and double doors we've never seen make me think it's the Siloam Springs house. Duggars have two grand pianos, and Jill's is next to her harp and not near any double doors that aren't blocked by a couch (see pic from D-Wreck the other day). I'm also kind of sick that I see a dog outside. No Duggar should ever own a pet. 

 

 

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eta: If this is indeed the Siloam Springs house, then I think we have figured out how the sale/trust was set up after Joshley went to Jesus Jail. 

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ms.o

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People magazine (online) covered Marcus birthday. Brought up Josh and Anna celebrating Marcus.

just a super normal family y'all! Ugh, what the hell PEOPLE

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ariel

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1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

I'm also kind of sick that I see a dog outside. No Duggar should ever own a pet. 

 

 

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eta: If this is indeed the Siloam Springs house, then I think we have figured out how the sale/trust was set up after Joshley went to Jesus Jail. 

The Duggar "pets" just seem to mysteriously  disappear after they have exploited the pets for filming or photo shots.

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Sew Sumi

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2 hours ago, Lunera said:

The Duggars posted a picture of a Josh with Ana, celebrating Marcus' birthday. 

Notice the FIVE ARROWS. Marcus is 4. Band-aid baby indeed. 

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ariel

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1 minute ago, Sew Sumi said:

Notice the FIVE ARROWS. Just thought I should bring that one up. Band-aid baby indeed. 

It looks like someone spent some time shopping at Hobby Lobby.

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ginger90

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"You all realize they stuck this photo in to test the waters of adding the hypocritical, child molesting, cheating husband back into public fold."

 

 

Exactly.

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floridamom

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Actually, I was very surprised to see the photo of Josh on their family page. Since it IS their family page, I guess they can post whatever they want. Having said that; I don't think of Josh as a child molester, because IMO, if that were true, he would have still been targeting children. He approached adult, consenting women for his extra marital escapades, so he has a 'sex thing' going on there. Anna will never be enough for him, not because of Anna, but because of Josh.

The Duggar supporters say that Anna is a strong woman. I disagree there. She actually is a weak woman; for a strong woman having been hurt and treated the way Josh has treated her in their marriage would have left him and that situation even with the obstacles she would face; no proper education, no job training or experience whatsoever. She would have taken herself, her children and would have taken her brother's offer to help her out; got some real job training and gone from there, free from public and private humiliation from Josh. With her staying, she's giving the impression to me that if he hurts her again, she'll still be there and willing to take it again from him. He, in essence, has a pass to 'do it again' knowing she'll take him back. It's no way for a woman to live, especially the stress I'm sure she's been under. It's not good for her to be expecting yet another 'blessing'. I hope this child is ok.

I, personally, don't want to see Josh on the show, nor do I want to see Anna, either. She is no example to me. Jim Bob and Michelle need to not be seen either as they are responsible for this mess from the beginning. They are the ones who have 'defrauded' their audience when they decided to go on TV and portray themselves as they did...knowing the skeleton they had in their closet.

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OpieTaylor

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11 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Piano placement and double doors we've never seen make me think it's the Siloam Springs house. Duggars have two grand pianos, and Jill's is next to her harp and not near any double doors that aren't blocked by a couch (see pic from D-Wreck the other day). I'm also kind of sick that I see a dog outside. No Duggar should ever own a pet. 

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eta: If this is indeed the Siloam Springs house, then I think we have figured out how the sale/trust was set up after Joshley went to Jesus Jail. 

ugh, that poor dog :(  I wonder if it's there as "protection" against the anti-Josh community

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lascuba

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I'm actually fine with them posting pictures of Josh on their family blog in the general sense. Like @floridamom said, adult Josh is not a child molester, and adolescent Josh was forgiven by his sisters and appears to have had a normal (by fundie standards) relationship with them for years. I say that because not one of these people is a  good enough actor to pull off pretending to be ok being around Josh while secretly hating/resenting him. 

The problem, to my way of thinking, is not that they spend time with Josh and his family--that's their business. It's that their family blog isn't just a family blog, it's promotional machine for their show. And they are not trustworthy enough for me to believe that they're just innocently posting pictures of family events and not trying to get the public to be ok with Josh coming back to the show. 

ETA: And I just noticed that People has an article up about Marcus' birthday. Fuck these people. 

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lulu69

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11 hours ago, ms.o said:

People magazine (online) covered Marcus birthday. Brought up Josh and Anna celebrating Marcus.

just a super normal family y'all! Ugh, what the hell PEOPLE

The comments posted at PEOPLE are 99% negative. Balloon flown.....balloon shot down. Oh well, keep on trying Dim Bulb lol

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Mollie

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22 minutes ago, lulu69 said:

The comments posted at PEOPLE are 99% negative. Balloon flown.....balloon shot down. Oh well, keep on trying Dim Bulb lol

54 negative comments, and I didn't see a single positive comment. 

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drafan

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11 hours ago, JoanArc said:

I missed that. But they're not quiverful!

But they can shift them around and make more room...Anna probably bought the Arrow 24-Pack at Hobby Lobby.

10 hours ago, MischaMouse said:

I was distracted by what looks to be a Berkey in the Smuggar photo. Starting at $258.

Aaaannnd Anna is smirking cuz she would be hauling water from a stream up to her brother's camper if she had listened to advice from anyone who is sane.

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Mollie

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10 minutes ago, Mya said:

Is the siloam springs house the one they "sold" right after the scandals?  Who actually owns it? I am confused.

Josh and Anna own it through a trust they set up.  They transferred ownership to the trust and they are the beneficiaries (owners) of the trust.

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queenanne

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16 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

Pic of Smuggar at Marcus' party. They're getting bolder and bolder...

 

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eta: There's a larger pic on DFO. Not sure why this ended up so small, but actually glad it is. 

Marcus? He's all Keller. He looks just like Suze's daughter, Noelle. Apologies for the appendages in this shot, but it's the clearest one of Marcus. 

 

 

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Thanks... I enjoy a good bizarrely tooth-baring smile from a young child, lol.  

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Sew Sumi

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27 minutes ago, Mollie said:

Josh and Anna own it through a trust they set up.  They transferred ownership to the trust and they are the beneficiaries (owners) of the trust.

At least these pictures of this house cleared that up for good. Boob knew what was coming and got the paperwork filed as soon as the Joshley Madison scandal broke. 

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Sew Sumi

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The house was sold to the trust for $10k more than its purchase price ($55k/$65k). They had been working on the place before Joshgate I hit. I remember David Waller posting several pictures. I assume the $10k recoups their material costs. Watching Nate and Jeremiah, that's really not a lot for the work that place seemed to need.  But then I remember these are the Duggars..

They obviously finished the house, likely before Joshley Madison. But if they hadn't, and Boob was punishing Smuggar, I imagine Smuggar had to finish the place out of his own pocket, maybe even with labor that was of age.

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Sew Sumi

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If that's the same place, they totally re-did the kitchen. The stove is now where that double sink was in the picture. But I did spy the double doors in the back view, looking to be right off the kitchen. Couldn't tell if they kept the bumped out windows in the kitchen or not from the pictures they posted, but the front door area where the pic with Boobchelle and Marcus was taken looks to be pretty much unchanged. 

eta: In sum, it looks like they probably re-did the entire kitchen, bathrooms, and painted the entire place the same boring beige color that they favor. Maybe gray for the master since it's trendy now. 

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Mollie

Mollie

8 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

This is the house with before pictures. Not a clue if it's where they are now.

http://www.reodev.com/property-for-sale/arkansas-siloam-springs-72761-17163-kincheloe-rd/

Yes, that's where they are for sure.  Here are the pictures of Anna's family when they came to help with the remodelling after Josh and Anna left D.C. and had to move in to that house.

http://davidlovespriscilla.com/2015/08/11/visit-with-family/

You'll notice that it is the same kitchen where the birthday photo was shot.  This is David Waller (Anna's brother-in-law) helping Josh hang the kitchen cabinets.

 

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Sew Sumi

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Yup, those were the pics I remember seeing a couple of years ago. I didn't realize it was so close to Joshley Madison, but it also shows that they continued to work on the place after Joshgate I which was, of course, no big deal. 

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Obsidian

Obsidian

3 hours ago, queenanne said:

Thanks... I enjoy a good bizarrely tooth-baring smile from a young child, lol.  

He's very cute, but this looks like he's learned the plastered-on Duggar Countenance Smile (TM). 

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