Arwen Evenstar September 23, 2016 Share September 23, 2016 As repugnant as Smuggar is, he seems to like his kids. Up until Joshgate, Anna was a very involved and devoted mother, but after everything that's happened to the family, she does look stunned and checked out. Anna was on track to outbreed Michelle at one point, but I hope Josh makes her realize this is not sustainable if they want any semblance of a decent life. At least if Tabitha has been schooling the Littles, the Smuggarlings will still be learning and get to have school with their cousins. Home schooling may not be as successful when mama bear has PPD, marital issues, or other mental health problems. The dismal life of most uber Fundy women almost guarantees a sub par education. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2592490
Defrauder September 23, 2016 Share September 23, 2016 I hear what you're saying Arwen Evenstar but we have to remember that Josh also seemed to like Anna and his sisters as well. Plus he preached loudly about family values so I don't buy anything that he may seem to be at the moment. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2592647
Arwen Evenstar September 23, 2016 Share September 23, 2016 26 minutes ago, Defrauder said: I hear what you're saying Arwen Evenstar but we have to remember that Josh also seemed to like Anna and his sisters as well. Plus he preached loudly about family values so I don't buy anything that he may seem to be at the moment. Not defending Josh, just saying that he seems to care about his kids more than JB cares about his. Not sure if we can take anything Smuggs says or does at face value, but I think he wants a different upbringing for his kids than what he had. i loathe his hypocrisy as well as his ideas about LGBTQ people, both are deplorable to me. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2592754
Natalie68 September 23, 2016 Share September 23, 2016 On 9/21/2016 at 2:50 PM, GeeGolly said: Her lip could be a cold sore, and I think Anna actually bites her lip while thinking as well. The rest looks like shadows. And like the rest of you - shit happens. I opened a car door into my own face/eye. I swung a duffel bag over my shoulder and knocked out one of my kids teeth (It was loose and hanging by a thread, but still). This last winter my hubby slipped on an icy curb and was bruised from scalp to shoulder. Cause you know, its a struggle. I have broken my own nose and given myself at least 2 black eyes. TOTAL klutz. If I had a dime for every time I sprained my ankle I could live like a Duggar (no job!). 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2593469
Arwen Evenstar September 23, 2016 Share September 23, 2016 I sincerely hope that Josh hasn't hurt Anna, but to imply that he has is a really bad thing to accuse anyone of. Like everyone else, I'm going to assume she bumped into something or got kicked by one of the kiddos. KJB may be a slimy eel, but I know if he thought Josh hurt Anna, he'd serve his ass up to the police. He's not going to risk another cover up. I'm always bumping into corners and furniture. I had to buy child safety corners for a cherished bookcase my beloved late father made for me.since it 's in a narrow hallway of our house and its corners (which I wish he'd rounded) kept assaulting my upper arms and leaving ugly bruises. I did not wish to see Mr Evenstar impugned for being suspected of hurting me. He'd never hurt a flea. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2593923
Scarlett45 September 24, 2016 Share September 24, 2016 13 hours ago, Tabbygirl521 said: If Josh wants to continue cheating, I wonder who it would/could be with, and how it could be kept secret. He is under his family's noses now instead of off in DC. And they all have his number so I am sure they would notice any unexplained absences from home. He probably has 27 accountability partners at this point. Where there's a will there's a way. I mean they can't lock him in the boys dorm, although that'd be funny. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2594639
Arwen Evenstar September 24, 2016 Share September 24, 2016 14 hours ago, Tabbygirl521 said: If Josh wants to continue cheating, I wonder who it would/could be with, and how it could be kept secret. He is under his family's noses now instead of off in DC. And they all have his number so I am sure they would notice any unexplained absences from home. He probably has 27 accountability partners at this point. I'm sure that would be about right. Pretty much everyone but Izzy and Spurge have been told to rat him out. 1 Flip Phone of Shame Plus 27 Accountability Partners and Counting. The fact that this whole family is okay with this 24/7 level of intrusion and thinks it's normal is depressing as all get-out. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2594742
JoanArc September 24, 2016 Share September 24, 2016 Quote I sincerely hope that Josh hasn't hurt Anna, but to imply that he has is a really bad thing to accuse anyone of. It's not like these people would hit a baby with a wooden spoon, or anything. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2594999
lookeyloo September 24, 2016 Share September 24, 2016 8 hours ago, Scarlett45 said: Where there's a will there's a way. I mean they can't lock him in the boys dorm, although that'd be funny. And Anthony Weiner managed to carry on a 15 month texting conversation with a minor. Granted he had a smart phone but they can be had for cheap at Walmart or a convenience store. Maybe Joshley saved pennies and, because he is so "sly" managed to get one. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2595033
Arwen Evenstar September 24, 2016 Share September 24, 2016 2 hours ago, lookeyloo said: And Anthony Weiner managed to carry on a 15 month texting conversation with a minor. Granted he had a smart phone but they can be had for cheap at Walmart or a convenience store. Maybe Joshley saved pennies and, because he is so "sly" managed to get one. I wouldn't doubt it at all. Smuggley Do Right is much too good at playing the long con. If JB thought building houses and going to RU, which was basically another labor camp with no real counseling, was going to "cure" Josh, then he's seriously delusional. Joshley has had a long term history of porn addiction and consumption. It's well documented that people continue to struggle with this issue, even with real therapy. Since he has to do it on the sly, he might not need as much, but he's likely still getting his fix. I doubt his sheltered bride is going to be down with or even would be skilled at doing the things Joshley wants, since I don't think any of it would be Dr. Wheat approved godly bedroom behavior. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2595303
Rabbittron September 24, 2016 Share September 24, 2016 I just saw a picture of Josh taking a family selfie and he had an iPhone Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2595667
lookeyloo September 24, 2016 Share September 24, 2016 31 minutes ago, Rabbittron said: I just saw a picture of Josh taking a family selfie and he had an iPhone Could be his or he used it for the photo. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2595735
sometimesy September 24, 2016 Share September 24, 2016 I hope those M&M's haven't been thrown in with the Dugg kids for their education. Would Anna default to that because it's easy? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2595747
Arwen Evenstar September 25, 2016 Share September 25, 2016 4 hours ago, sometimesy said: I hope those M&M's haven't been thrown in with the Dugg kids for their education. Would Anna default to that because it's easy? It appears the M&Ms are with Tabitha for SOTDRT. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2596214
BitterApple September 25, 2016 Share September 25, 2016 I wonder what Anna does all day. It seems like she's checked out and just dumping the kids at the TTH for random strangers and stray Sister-Moms to raise. There's no way Tabitha is giving them a quality education. The Littles can barely write their names. When they lived in DC, it looked like Anna and Josh were going to take their children's schooling a little more seriously. It's amazing how quickly they reverted to type once they moved back into the Compound of Ignorance. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2596228
Arwen Evenstar September 25, 2016 Share September 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, BitterApple said: I wonder what Anna does all day. It seems like she's checked out and just dumping the kids at the TTH for random strangers and stray Sister-Moms to raise. There's no way Tabitha is giving them a quality education. The Littles can barely write their names. When they lived in DC, it looked like Anna and Josh were going to take their children's schooling a little more seriously. It's amazing how quickly they reverted to type once they moved back into the Compound of Ignorance. When one returns to the Stinkertoy House in disgrace, one likely cannot as for any special favors...such as a decent education for the kiddos. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2596235
NewDigs September 25, 2016 Share September 25, 2016 19 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said: When one returns to the Stinkertoy House in disgrace, one likely cannot as for any special favors...such as a decent education for the kiddos. But the materials must be available. For whatever that's worth. (see: Creation Museum, Noah's Ark) Though what comes to my mind is, "Abandon all hope...". 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2596275
maraleia September 25, 2016 Author Share September 25, 2016 FYI there's no such thing as a porn addiction. Josh turned to porn when he wasn't getting the correct kind of messages about sex from his parents. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2596625
AnnieBeez September 25, 2016 Share September 25, 2016 3 hours ago, maraleia said: FYI there's no such thing as a porn addiction. Josh turned to porn when he wasn't getting the correct kind of messages about sex from his parents. Oh, please. Josh turned to porn because he could and he liked it. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2596792
satrunrose September 25, 2016 Share September 25, 2016 12 hours ago, NewDigs said: Though what comes to my mind is, "Abandon all hope...". Yet another book the Duggarlings will never read. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2596913
NewDigs September 25, 2016 Share September 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, satrunrose said: Yet another book the Duggarlings will never read. But they'll always have the Old Testament. Not a lotta hope there either. lol 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2596917
Arwen Evenstar September 25, 2016 Share September 25, 2016 3 hours ago, NewDigs said: But they'll always have the Old Testament. Not a lotta hope there either. lol I don't even really think they understand the Bible in any sort of context, other than parroting what they've been told to believe or a literal interpretation. I think SmugAnna would have given their kids a better education if they would have been able to have left he Stinkertoy House for good. I'm sure every day, Josh knows he's forever stuck there. Is he plotting his escape? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2597210
DawgMom September 25, 2016 Share September 25, 2016 Old topic re Anna's black eye? I just saw this... looks a lot like Izzy's from a while back... did she wander too far off her blanket too?!?! 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2597890
Sew Sumi September 26, 2016 Share September 26, 2016 I can't believe that the Duggar Family FB posted an anniversary acknowledgement for Smuganna. Disgusting. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2600270
BitterApple September 26, 2016 Share September 26, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sew Sumi said: I can't believe that the Duggar Family FB posted an anniversary acknowledgement for Smuganna. Disgusting. Are you shitting me? Whoever called it that they're slowly working Smuggar back onto the show should give themselves a pat on the back right now. The Duggars have absolutely no shame. Edited September 26, 2016 by BitterApple clarity 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2600837
Aja September 26, 2016 Share September 26, 2016 You know, I had a philandering husband. And if my mother had the gall to post ANYTHING about it on her social media, I would have killed her. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2600858
Annb67 September 26, 2016 Share September 26, 2016 What the hell is wrong with these people? We don't want to see his pedophile face anywhere near the TV. Seriously, I think the only thing they see is the affair and porn which is bad enough but the child molestation? Uh...just no 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2600882
Sew Sumi September 26, 2016 Share September 26, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, BitterApple said: Are you shitting me? Whoever called it that they're slowly working Smuggar back onto the show should give themselves a pat on the back right now. The Duggars have absolutely no shame. Slow clap. This is clearly their little ploy to ease Smuggar back into the public eye. I called him being on air by next season. Sadly, it looks like I am going to be right. And with that, I hope the show watches every hate-watcher, probably cutting the audience in half, and with advertisers dropping like flies, a quick, painful (for Jessa) cancellation. Edited September 26, 2016 by Sew Sumi Because eye kant spel ore tipe! 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2600920
JoanArc September 26, 2016 Share September 26, 2016 Quote I can't believe that the Duggar Family FB posted an anniversary acknowledgement for Smuganna. Disgusting. "We're doing everything we can to force them to stay married. Send money!" 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2601044
Sew Sumi September 26, 2016 Share September 26, 2016 On a positive note, he looks like shit. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2601162
Tabbygirl521 September 26, 2016 Share September 26, 2016 It seems weird that they rehash the cheating in their message, though. Either they have forgiven him and they've all moved on, or they are never letting him forget it. Pick a side, Duggars. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2601205
JoanArc September 27, 2016 Share September 27, 2016 16 minutes ago, Tabbygirl521 said: It seems weird that they rehash the cheating in their message, though. Either they have forgiven him and they've all moved on, or they are never letting him forget it. Pick a side, Duggars. That makes it much harder to manipulate the family into the message of the moment. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2601254
Sew Sumi September 27, 2016 Share September 27, 2016 I read this as "totally forgiven," and Smuggar forgiven of past sins. It's all part of his TLC redemption arc. Love that they used that word, since it's the word we've been using to frame his comeback since he first fell from grace. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2601316
MonicaM September 27, 2016 Share September 27, 2016 Just saw the picture and it looks as if our worst fears have come true. JOSH IS PREGNANT!!!!!!!!!! Looks as if it might be twins! 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2602742
Lemur September 27, 2016 Share September 27, 2016 19 hours ago, Annb67 said: What the hell is wrong with these people? We don't want to see his pedophile face anywhere near the TV. Seriously, I think the only thing they see is the affair and porn which is bad enough but the child molestation? Uh...just no Those were the mistakes of a young boy, remember? (Nevermind that their age of accountability is 10.) His sisters were asleep and didn't know even know it has happened until their parents told them (except for the ones that were awake as his behavior escalated and became more and more pervy). 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2602825
BitterApple September 27, 2016 Share September 27, 2016 3 hours ago, MonicaM said: Just saw the picture and it looks as if our worst fears have come true. JOSH IS PREGNANT!!!!!!!!!! Looks as if it might be twins! Well we always knew he'd do anything to get his mug back on camera.... 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2603331
RazzleberryPie September 27, 2016 Share September 27, 2016 3 hours ago, MonicaM said: Just saw the picture and it looks as if our worst fears have come true. JOSH IS PREGNANT!!!!!!!!!! Looks as if it might be twins! Hmm looks like Anna won't be the only Duggar to deliver on a toilet. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2603333
Fuzzysox September 27, 2016 Share September 27, 2016 On 9/26/2016 at 4:15 PM, BitterApple said: Are you shitting me? Whoever called it that they're slowly working Smuggar back onto the show should give themselves a pat on the back right now. The Duggars have absolutely no shame. Remember the Resurrection Tour? They have to work the pictures into their "story" so when they go on tour the leghumpers can believe that everything is because of God's loving guidance leading them to sell more tickets. It's all in the "marketing" highly doubt Mullet gives two flying shits about Anna and her marriage. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2603433
Defrauder September 27, 2016 Share September 27, 2016 Count down to Josh Gate 3. 19 hours and counting. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2603512
GeeGolly September 27, 2016 Share September 27, 2016 I'm going with the post is a Duggar thing. I still don't believe TLC will directly film Josh. Of all the pictures they could post, an anniversary pic was a poor choice. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2603637
Jynnan tonnix September 27, 2016 Share September 27, 2016 2 hours ago, RazzleberryPie said: Hmm looks like Anna won't be the only Duggar to deliver on a toilet. Hahahahaha! Laughing so hard at this that I need to run to the toilet myself! 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2603686
Rabbittron September 28, 2016 Share September 28, 2016 You are right. Smuggar is having twins. Chick fila and Krispy Kreme. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2603909
Churchhoney September 28, 2016 Share September 28, 2016 On 9/26/2016 at 5:25 PM, Aja said: You know, I had a philandering husband. And if my mother had the gall to post ANYTHING about it on her social media, I would have killed her. Aside from JB and M, nobody in this group is allowed to have any personal authentic feelings and opinions about anything. And never has been. Ever. In their whole lives. So the 'rents here don't need to worry about reactions like yours. Sickening. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2603930
Arwen Evenstar September 28, 2016 Share September 28, 2016 16 hours ago, Rabbittron said: You are right. Smuggar is having twins. Chick fila and Krispy Kreme. 20 hours ago, RazzleberryPie said: Hmm looks like Anna won't be the only Duggar to deliver on a toilet. I think you both just won the Internet today!!! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2605639
Arwen Evenstar September 28, 2016 Share September 28, 2016 19 hours ago, Defrauder said: Count down to Josh Gate 3. 19 hours and counting. Is there a 3rd Joshgate scandal? What makes y'all think so? For all my lurking, I haven't seen anything--did I miss something? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2605657
Marigold September 28, 2016 Share September 28, 2016 Anna looked much, much better when Josh was away at Pray Camp. She looks kinda stressed or sad or something. Maybe she is just humiliated daily at her life with that pig? Redemptive Love? I'm gonna be sick. The Duggars are so gross to post that Vile Josh, smiling so smuggly. I realize he is their son and they probably love him and all tha. But I have never met a person in real life who doesn't recoil in disgust when his name comes up. I have pretty religious friends and everyone makes a face about Josh. It's only the 100 wackos on FB who love him...probably living in a dirty house full of cat shit and heavily medicated. Crazy people support Josh. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2605801
laurakaye September 28, 2016 Share September 28, 2016 Josh looks overweight, pasty, balding, smug and exhausted in that photo. So...normal for him. With Josh back home and underfoot, Anna has to figure out how to still be attractive and available to him, while also chasing after four kids, cleaning, cooking, laundry, etc. I get the feeling that Josh doesn't do a whole lot of work around the house. Plus, if he disappears for more than a few minutes, or takes off and doesn't tell her where he's going, she's got to always be wondering what he's doing. And this is who she's stuck with for life. That would make any woman stressed. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2605916
Marigold September 28, 2016 Share September 28, 2016 And from that birthday video the Duggar kidults posted, they work Anna hard. Josh must be wanting to have sex 24/7, trying to self medicate with a big O and then a trip to Chic Fil A. Yuck. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2605975
Lemur September 28, 2016 Share September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, laurakaye said: Josh looks overweight, pasty, balding, smug and exhausted in that photo. So...normal for him. Killing time is exhausting business. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2606323
Marigold September 28, 2016 Share September 28, 2016 Oh, I'm sure Joshie has found himself a smart phone. He is probably getting very busy. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4650-josh-anna-smuggar-a-series-of-unfortunate-events/page/317/#findComment-2606389
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