Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[Missy Vixen]

Even if Anna is not mad at Josh, could she at least be mad at that amount of money spent?  She buys used and saves the difference only to have hubby spend it on hookers.  I would have a separate bank account pronto.

She's never going to be able to tell the truth about being mad or wanting to get revenge for the shitty things her asshole husband has done to her. Jim Boob, J-Chelle and her parents have made sure she will "keep sweet" and not say a word about what really happened, as opposed to what we've heard via media.

 

I'm also betting she has NO control over any of their money at all. Her headship will not allow that, especially since I'm betting their finances were turned over to Jim Boob before Joshley Madison went to his alleged rehab.

[sometimesy]

She's never going to be able to tell the truth about being mad or wanting to get revenge for the shitty things her asshole husband has done to her. Jim Boob, J-Chelle and her parents have made sure she will "keep sweet" and not say a word about what really happened, as opposed to what we've heard via media.

 

I'm also betting she has NO control over any of their money at all. Her headship will not allow that, especially since I'm betting their finances were turned over to Jim Boob before Joshley Madison went to his alleged rehab.

She probably gets an allowance of some kind to spend as she wants. She is living a comfortable lifestyle. It seems like Anna is happy with the trade off. No responsibility, no rights. She is a dud.

[Marigold]

I think jim Bob is paying the bills. And that's good and bad.

Good because someone is taking care of them. It's awful to see a woman and kids just left with no family to step in and help. For that, I'm glad the kids aren't suffering.

Bad because, again, there are no consequences for anyone. Unfortunately, most times, we learn, grow and improve through consequences.

I bet Ann hands over the house bills and Jim Bob deposits money into her debit card account so she can food shop etc.

Edited November 25, 2015 by Marigold

[Churchhoney]

I think jim Bob is paying the bills. And that's good and bad.

Good because someone is taking care of them. It's awful to see a woman and kids just left with no family to step in and help. For that, I'm glad the kids aren't suffering.

Bad because, again, there are no consequences for anyone. Unfortunately, most times, we learn, grow and improve through consequences.

I bet Ann hands over the house bills and Jim Bob deposits money into her debit card account so she can food shop etc.

 

Everything about this family is the same kind of double-edged sword.

 

I'm relieved when the kids get some protection, not matter where it comes from, because I don't want young children to be hurt. And I can only pin so much blame -- and it's not that much -- on even the oldest of Duggs' generation two (or even their spouses, to some degree, especially Anna) because I know their upbringing has pretty much inevitably made them blind.

 

At the same time, though, I'm absolutely sure that all the kids, from Josh on down through the teenagers and even the school-age ones, truly need to feel and understand some real consequences -- soon -- of the hash that their family's principles and procedures have made of life. If they don't recognize some facts, soon, their chances of waking up and doing something that can change their lifelong fates get slimmer and slimmer. There is such a thing as too late when it comes to getting a sense of reality, and "too late" could come very soon for a lot of the Duggars, I expect.

[dillpickles]

whoa, hold on just a minute there:

"they leave God out of the equation. They don’t pray to God asking for his help. Usually they solve the problem with deceit or manipulation. It’s really teaching how to live your life without God."

So, you're saying that allowing child molestation to continue under your roof, and cheating on your wife is not "leaving god out of the equation"???? that isn't fucking deceit and manipulation?????????????????

I'm sure Josh did a quick "Lord forgive me" after each sin he committed. The prayers cancel out anything bad, so he's fine! (*does not apply to women*)

[farmgal4]

I wonder if Dickles (see what I did there?) will have turkey at Club WTF tomorrow?

[Arwen Evenstar]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone..3 new Smugku on 19 Parodies....enjoy

[frenchtoast]

Whore is a slut shaming word. Do not use it here. Do not argue about why it's considered slut shaming. Also, being snippy and calling posters names, definitely not acceptable. Warnings or locking the topics/forum are next. It's a holiday and you all know better.

 

I can't believe I have to make that announcement on Thanksgiving morning. 

[Rhondinella]

I'm thankful today (and every day) for the AWESOME mods who run this forum with grace, wisdom, discretion and humor--even if it is through gritted teeth sometimes :-)  Love you ladies!!  Happy Thanksgiving!

[bigskygirl]

I'm thankful today (and every day) for the AWESOME mods who run this forum with grace, wisdom, discretion and humor--even if it is through gritted teeth sometimes :-)  Love you ladies!!  Happy Thanksgiving!

Sorry for going off topic, but in the case of being a mod, I had the best mod mentor aka Rhondinella. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

[Arwen Evenstar]

Check out my Thanksgiving Smugku on 19 Parodies...suitable for family too! Happy Thanksgiving!

[Missy Vixen]

Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving to the mods, who go above and beyond every day. ;-)

 

On-topic content: Will Anna spend the entire day cooking? Is Joshley Madison mentioned during the family Thanksgiving prayers?

[kokapetl]

Josh won't be there, Anna will be cooking a low cal thanksgiving, for various reasons, for the whole Duggar family, they will spit it out onto their paper plates without hesitation, and go to a drive thru fast food joint ASAP. Maybe Jana and Jinger will respectively choke it down and pretend she ate.

[Rhondinella]

Sorry for going off topic, but in the case of being a mod, I had the best mod mentor aka Rhondinella. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

 

 

Awww, thanks!  I'm sorry if I took things off topic, but I just couldn't resist on this day of thanks!

 

On topic--has anyone been monitoring the various Duggar social media today for any Joshie sightings?  I was going to, but I'm still digesting my Thanksgiving dinner and don't want to puke it up.

[bigskygirl]

He could be hiding out in the rose bushes. Btw, I wonder if the Duggars are being hit by the bad weather down south. Oh well, Josh, Anna and the rest of the gang could always pray the bad weather away.

[Rhondinella]

I just came from Tulsa, OK, which is only a couple hours west of there.  I think they're only going to get rain in eastern OK, western AR. The temp line between 33 and 32 degrees is supposed to stop smack dab on top of Oklahoma City (where I live) basically splitting the city in two.  The eastern half will get rain tonight and tomorrow, and the western half will get ice. 

 

Yes, we say things like "smack dab" in Oklahoma.  It's charming.

 

That's it for the weather report.  Now back to you, bigskygirl!

Edited November 27, 2015 by Rhondinella

[bigskygirl]

If they did sneak Josh back to the compound, would he have to eat by himself in the corner because he was a naughty boy?

[Sew Sumi]

If they did sneak Josh back to the compound, would he have to eat by himself in the corner because he was a naughty boy?

He might be the reason they made 15 pies. Welcome home, time to eat your feelings! 

[Arwen Evenstar]

Even though Smuggar is a dreadful person, he and Goody really have some stankin' cute kiddos!

[Rhondinella]

If they did sneak Josh back to the compound, would he have to eat by himself in the corner because he was a naughty boy?

 

Well, let's hope they didn't seat him at the kid's table.  Yes, I went there.

Edited November 27, 2015 by Rhondinella

[BitterApple]

Well, let's hope they didn't seat him at the kid's table. Yes, I went there.

It's all good, but at this point it's standing room only on the Bus to Hell. Hopefully we have enough Tater Tot Cassie and powdered lemonade to go around.

[What In The]

Hey, Anna just gave me a vision. I see it: a lawfirm, surrounded baby boutiques. On the doors of said firm are the words Law Offices of What in The. Trial Divorce Atoorney at Law. You fucked em, we'll help you suck em....dry that is.

[Muffyn]

If they did sneak Josh back to the compound, would he have to eat by himself in the corner because he was a naughty boy?

I envision Josh on a kneeler in the prayer closet with a plate of burnt tater tots, half chewed pie crusts and whatever Josie licked and/or spit up.  

[Micks Picks]

Muffyn I'd like to "like" your post.  But it's so gross.  True but gross.  You couldn't pay me enough to eat at that house.  I have always had GI problems and probably wouldn't survive.  

[truthtalk2014]

Muffyn I'd like to "like" your post.  But it's so gross.  True but gross.  You couldn't pay me enough to eat at that house.  I have always had GI problems and probably wouldn't survive.  

I think most people that have watched the show would be terrified to eat there.    Eventually, they will produce an antibiotic from the Duggar house.  

[cmr2014]

I wouldn't be terrified to eat there because it's dirty, I wouldn't want to eat there because 1) I don't think they eat, they just snack on garbage 2) when they do eat, the food looks awful 3) I would be uncomfortable eating lasagna or TTC on paper plates with plastic utensils 4) They are, seriously, the most boring and unpleasant people I could ever imagine.

[Churchhoney]

I wouldn't be terrified to eat there because it's dirty, I wouldn't want to eat there because 1) I don't think they eat, they just snack on garbage 2) when they do eat, the food looks awful 3) I would be uncomfortable eating lasagna or TTC on paper plates with plastic utensils 4) They are, seriously, the most boring and unpleasant people I could ever imagine.

 

Boy, talk about boring. The longest single stretch of Duggar I've ever watched is under 20 minutes (with commercials in there, but I don't know how much time they took off the 19-20 mins), and it not only featured some of the most boring dialogue I've ever heard either in media or in real life but repetition of some of that boring dialogue! They have over two dozen people available! And they can't fill 20 minutes (minus commercials) with passable dialogue without repeating some of it! They have to be among the most boring people ever born. A meal with them? Aaaaarrrrrgggghhh. 

[Quilt Fairy]

I think most people that have watched the show would be terrified to eat there.    Eventually, they will produce an antibiotic from the Duggar house.  

Josie will probably live to be 100. She's going to have immunity to everything built up .

Edited November 28, 2015 by Quilt Fairy

[Arwen Evenstar]

I think most people that have watched the show would be terrified to eat there.    Eventually, they will produce an antibiotic from the Duggar house.

I think most people that have watched the show would be terrified to eat there.    Eventually, they will produce an antibiotic from the Duggar house.

Wot? I imagine the TTH as a super size Petri dish! Clostridium duggarii?

Blecchhhhhh!

[becca3891]

I wouldn't be terrified to eat there because it's dirty, I wouldn't want to eat there because 1) I don't think they eat, they just snack on garbage 2) when they do eat, the food looks awful 3) I would be uncomfortable eating lasagna or TTC on paper plates with plastic utensils 4) They are, seriously, the most boring and unpleasant people I could ever imagine.

I sometimes think about this, sadly. What do they talk about when they get together with the Bateses, for example? I have a feeling it's nothing but courtship, guarding your heart, and babies, on an endless loop. Maybe the occasional ultra right wing political remark, not that they know one solitary thing about politics beyond their rabid pro-life and anti-gay views. I wonder what Jana and Erin Bates, for example, would have to talk about now. They used to be in the same boat, waiting for the Lord to bring the right man into their lives, and it happened for Erin. I wonder if Jana feels they have nothing in common now, along with Jill and Jessa. They're in the moms with babies club and she's not. It would be no big deal in the real world. In the real world, Jana would not be the least bit abnormal, with a job, friends and a life. It's just sad.

[Churchhoney]

I sometimes think about this, sadly. What do they talk about when they get together with the Bateses, for example? I have a feeling it's nothing but courtship, guarding your heart, and babies, on an endless loop. Maybe the occasional ultra right wing political remark, not that they know one solitary thing about politics beyond their rabid pro-life and anti-gay views. I wonder what Jana and Erin Bates, for example, would have to talk about now. They used to be in the same boat, waiting for the Lord to bring the right man into their lives, and it happened for Erin. I wonder if Jana feels they have nothing in common now, along with Jill and Jessa. They're in the moms with babies club and she's not. It would be no big deal in the real world. In the real world, Jana would not be the least bit abnormal, with a job, friends and a life. It's just sad.

 

Well, I don't know about the Bates, but my theory has always been that the Duggars' are, plain and simple, a household run by a paranoid control freak, in Boob. And in my experience of such a household, no actual conversation is ever allowed. Conversation can open the doors to things. So all their talk is just going to be pro forma anyway.

 

People who have approved things to brag about, such as money or babies or some kind of church accomplishment, brag. And other than that, everybody just exchanges and re-exchanges the (short) approved list of cliched comments (and in this case, we've heard all those comments on tv). Some of the Duggar kids probably have an obscure, frustrating hunger for conversation. People do. But even those don't know what they're hungering for because they don't know what conversation is, particularly since they haven't even read any books or watched movies or tv.

Edited November 28, 2015 by Churchhoney

[greenturtle36]

Having been a part of the evangelical church, conversations usually centered around scriptures and approved catch phrases.  Talk about "worldly things" was forbidden.  So, yeah, not much else to talk about, but scriptures and Jesus.

[bigskygirl]

Santa Claus sent a message to the mods. He is asking our posters to get back to the topic at hand. And the topic at hand, envelope please and a drum roll, is Josh and Anna. There are other threads in the forum to talk about the other Duggars kids, families they know, and the Gothard religion. The big jolly guy wants to remind everyone he does have coal for the mod elves to put in the stockings of bad boys and girls who do not stay on topic. He also said the mods will be hiding or deleted posts going off topic.

[BrianJ62]

Santa Claus sent a message to the mods. He is asking our posters to get back to the topic at hand. And the topic at hand, envelope please and a drum roll, is Josh and Anna. There are other threads in the forum to talk about the other Duggars kids, families they know, and the Gothard religion. The big jolly guy wants to remind everyone he does have coal for the mod elves to put in the stockings of bad boys and girls who do not stay on topic. He also said the mods will be hiding or deleted posts going off topic.

I would love to see the naughty and nice list.

[Arwen Evenstar]

Hmmmm...I wonder if all the silence about Smuggs and his whereabouts is the proverbial calm before the storm....one has to wonder....or since its now up to the Dugettes to "save their brand"---we just can't have Josh's latest folly tarnishing the brand now can we?

I understand Smuggs has indeed disgraced the family...and to some extent they need to distance themselves from him. As I told my hubs, I'll give Josh and Boob and Googly Eyes all my stank with both barrels because they deserve it. Jill is too sweet and daft to pick on....Jessa's a mean girl and full of herself which is why I don't care for her much, but those kids don't deserve to be hurting for all of this as well as four of his victims were his own sisters who won't find proper healing in that environment.

I'm sure there's a lot that The Little's are wondering about...they may not be old enough to understand much of anything but they can sense the energy has changed. Anna's adorable kids give them someone else to play with and give them a distraction but I'm sure they still can sense "something just ain't right".

[SomePity1066]

I think it's very telling of the whole Duggar/Gothard bubble that Josh wasn't only forgiven, he was the exalted, on-high, great poohbah Oldest Son, endlessly paraded around, filmed, received a grand slam wedding special, etc, etc, etc, but only BEFORE his sins hit the mainstream media. 

 

The not-a-big-deal, "happens in almost every family" molestation was no biggie to them ! Seriously ! His smug face was allll over TLC for a DECADE after the shit hit the fan. It was only after his sins/crimes were made public that he was tossed out on his sanctimonious ass.

 

I have absolutely NO problem believing that if the Ashley Madison cheating thing had been discovered privately that Josh would still be at home right now, yukking it up for the kiddos and barely opening an eye as Anna announced that Number Five was on the way. 

 

These people don't repent when that sin; they repent when they get CAUGHT, and even then, it's only when the whole world catches them. 

[Defrauder]

I think it's very telling of the whole Duggar/Gothard bubble that Josh wasn't only forgiven, he was the exalted, on-high, great poohbah Oldest Son, endlessly paraded around, filmed, received a grand slam wedding special, etc, etc, etc, but only BEFORE his sins hit the mainstream media. 

 

The not-a-big-deal, "happens in almost every family" molestation was no biggie to them ! Seriously ! His smug face was allll over TLC for a DECADE after the shit hit the fan. It was only after his sins/crimes were made public that he was tossed out on his sanctimonious ass.

 

I have absolutely NO problem believing that if the Ashley Madison cheating thing had been discovered privately that Josh would still be at home right now, yukking it up for the kiddos and barely opening an eye as Anna announced that Number Five was on the way. 

 

These people don't repent when that sin; they repent when they get CAUGHT, and even then, it's only when the whole world catches them. 

True, they shun Josh after he was outed by the media and not before.  I'm not convinced someone in Duggarland didn't know about the AM(etal) escapades before they were revealed to the public.  They like to keep these things 'in house' while letting their public think everything is fine and wholesome.  Until the public finds out.

[Joe Jitsu913]

I think it's very telling of the whole Duggar/Gothard bubble that Josh wasn't only forgiven, he was the exalted, on-high, great poohbah Oldest Son, endlessly paraded around, filmed, received a grand slam wedding special,

It's like being King Shit of the Turd Pile.

[Muffyn]

I watched RU last night just in case Josh is still there and there was a sighting.  So many pasty white guys that are impossible to tell apart so no Josh specific views. If he was there, I can say they reached a new low in sermons that make you feel terrible about yourself, the world and god.  The focus was on a dead baby and the speaker's sister who was too "full of herself" so god smote her with lupus that left her in horrible pain and agony for 20+ years until she died.  While Josh is a horrible waste of a person, even he doesn't deserve to be forced to listen to that garbage.  Also, if this is how god deals with people who are prideful, how are Josh, JB, Mechelle and Jessa walking aorund with no problems other than Mechelle's mysterious missing back muscle?  The laugh of the night for me was the speaker clarifying that his sister did not have leprosy.  Only these thumpers would be seriously concerned about leprosy in the US in this century.   That would be some serious smoting! 

[Quilt Fairy]

Glad you took one for the team, Muffyn!

[Arwen Evenstar]

Keep hoping the Lord will smite the Duggars with some good sense and critical thinking skills!

Smuggs' stint in RU gets more and more dismal by the day...this is supposed to be healing?

Edited November 29, 2015 by Arwen Evenstar

[Arwen Evenstar]

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[becca3891]

I think it's very telling of the whole Duggar/Gothard bubble that Josh wasn't only forgiven, he was the exalted, on-high, great poohbah Oldest Son, endlessly paraded around, filmed, received a grand slam wedding special, etc, etc, etc, but only BEFORE his sins hit the mainstream media. 

 

The not-a-big-deal, "happens in almost every family" molestation was no biggie to them ! Seriously ! His smug face was allll over TLC for a DECADE after the shit hit the fan. It was only after his sins/crimes were made public that he was tossed out on his sanctimonious ass.

 

I have absolutely NO problem believing that if the Ashley Madison cheating thing had been discovered privately that Josh would still be at home right now, yukking it up for the kiddos and barely opening an eye as Anna announced that Number Five was on the way. 

 

These people don't repent when that sin; they repent when they get CAUGHT, and even then, it's only when the whole world catches them. 

Exactly. Nothing changed at Gothard headquarters for decades. Dozens of women suffered in silence, not just ignored, but chastised and dismissed for daring to say that they had been harassed, or worse, by Gothard. Only when dozens of Internet reports began surfacing in recent years did anything happen, and even then, he denied most of it. Truly sickening and the worst kind of hypocrisy. 

[Churchhoney]

I think it's very telling of the whole Duggar/Gothard bubble that Josh wasn't only forgiven, he was the exalted, on-high, great poohbah Oldest Son, endlessly paraded around, filmed, received a grand slam wedding special, etc, etc, etc, but only BEFORE his sins hit the mainstream media. 

 

The not-a-big-deal, "happens in almost every family" molestation was no biggie to them ! Seriously ! His smug face was allll over TLC for a DECADE after the shit hit the fan. It was only after his sins/crimes were made public that he was tossed out on his sanctimonious ass.

 

 

 

Giving me yet another in my large pile of reasons to particularly despise Michelle and Jim Bob. Just goes to show that they care for nothing except their pr and the money that comes from it. If he's truly your favorite son before his actions are known to others (but are known to you), there's no reason he would not continue to be your favorite son once word got out. You'd just be expressing your care and love for him in a different way, not dropping him like a hot potato. This is one more tale revealing the truth that, some appearances and much leghumper fawning to the contrary, they care for their children -- including Josh -- not at all.

[greenturtle36]

I've been looking around for the specific episode where Anna wakes Josh up to tell him she's pregnant with the 4th... I want to see his face.  I can't find the episode, but I did find the web clip where they oh so excitedly (cough) announce that "we are expecting!"  Anna is all smiles, but Josh is sitting there with, I can't even call it a fake smile... he's just showing his teeth, with some smirking here and there.  His eyes look like they always look... just "there", bored and disconnected.  I'll paste the link, but if anybody can tell me which episode is where she tells him she's pregnant, that would be great.  

 

http://www.today.com/parents/josh-anna-duggar-announce-pregnancy-1D80333649

[kokapetl]

I've been looking around for the specific episode where Anna wakes Josh up to tell him she's pregnant with the 4th... I want to see his face. I can't find the episode, but I did find the web clip where they oh so excitedly (cough) announce that "we are expecting!" Anna is all smiles, but Josh is sitting there with, I can't even call it a fake smile... he's just showing his teeth, with some smirking here and there. His eyes look like they always look... just "there", bored and disconnected. I'll paste the link, but if anybody can tell me which episode is where she tells him she's pregnant, that would be great.

http://www.today.com/parents/josh-anna-duggar-announce-pregnancy-1D80333649

I think it's "European Honeymoon" from the last season. If I recall correctly, Anna comes into the room all excited announcing she's pregnant again, the kids play with the peed on stick, and Josh slyly double checks it. Edited November 29, 2015 by Kokapetl

[Soup333]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgMi8Pap4v4

 

Start around the 37 minute mark.

[poopchute]

Can someone help me out with the timeline here? When was that pregnancy video made, was it before the strip club visits/sex with strippers? I'm just wondering when he actually cheated on her. Was she pregnant? She looks so happy in that video.

[kokapetl]

Jessa was married in November 14, that announcement on M4 was probably in the month or so afterwards? M4 aka Meredith was born July 2015. Danica Dillon says she bumped uglies with Josh in March to April 2015.

[poopchute]

Okay thank you. I wasn't sure when she had that baby.