Artistic Gymnastics: Stick the Landing!

[choclatechip45]

I think they still do compulsories in the lower levels.

[windsprints]

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I would fire Al with so much glee it's not even funny.

x a billion

[TigerLynx]

They replaced the compulsories in skating with the short program which made sense.  People like watching both the short and long programs.  However, that didn't mean skaters shouldn't learn the compulsories.  They may be boring, but they make a big difference in how a person skates.  What's the point in doing the jumps if they don't know how to take off and land them properly?  Oh I forgot, if they throw enough triples and quads into the routine, they still get good scores.

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if we're taking over the network - NBC needs to poop or get off the pot. You know what events are live, before the Olympics start, and you know what is not. If you are aware that you want to focus on swimming (or beach volleyball, whatever) - put the FULL EVENT on in the morning. then repeat highlights at night. That's what every other network does. And this way - those who want USA only, can watch in prime later, those who don't have internet, can DVR it in the morning. not everyone can stream (and apparently NBCOlympics makes you register your cable - just make it available to everyone free. CBC does. so does BBC.)

This so much.

Edited August 17, 2016 by TigerLynx

[kalystia1983]

Just to clarify the rules for Tokyo 2020.  The team size will be reduced to 4 for team finals.  However, each country can qualify up to 2 other gymnasts for individual event finals, meaning the US will be able to send 6 male and 6 female gymnasts depending on how qualification goes.  It's going to be confusing on how to qualify so More info here  

The big thing is only 4 can compete in team finals and be on the team.  How this would have worked out in 2016 (in my opinion): Simone, Gabby, Aly, and Laurie would have been the team in team finals.  And then in qualification they would have put either Madison or Ashton Locklear up for bars, and then most likely Mykayla Skinner for vault and floor.  Probably one of the two would have gone up on bars as well.  

Also, really enjoyed the discussion about the 97-2000 US.  If anyone ever wants to relive the 2000 olympic trials, please use The Balance Beam Situation's meet snark-a-thon as a viewing guide: Part 1 and Part 2  Before reading that I had forgotten the whole crazy Shannon Miller situation lost in the rest of the insanity.  Something else I didn't know until recently, Atler at one point came out to say that between Day 1 and Day 2 of trials Bela called to let her know she wouldn't be on the team, but hey come compete at Day 2....yeah....

Loved coming home every day to read all the live event posts!  Will definitely miss those!

[Dots And Stripes]

Danell looks so happy under his blanket.

Al trying to predict Oleg's standing after his performance was ridiculous.

[Minneapple]

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

if we're taking over the network - NBC needs to poop or get off the pot. You know what events are live, before the Olympics start, and you know what is not. If you are aware that you want to focus on swimming (or beach volleyball, whatever) - put the FULL EVENT on in the morning. then repeat highlights at night. That's what every other network does. And this way - those who want USA only, can watch in prime later, those who don't have internet, can DVR it in the morning. not everyone can stream (and apparently NBCOlympics makes you register your cable - just make it available to everyone free. CBC does. so does BBC.)
 

The BBC and CBC are state owned or partly state owned. NBC is a private, for-profit network. Their business models are completely different.

I don't blame NBC for showing swimming and track live in primetime, because they're live events. And I don't blame them for not showing an event live on TV earlier in the day, then showing a tape-delayed package in primetime (NBC has maintained that this is a waste of time and I actually agree; it would be like Fox or CBS showing a full NFL game in the afternoon, then showing a condensed version of that same game in primetime). What I do blame them for is trying to wrap the tape-delayed gymnastics package around the live swimming and track. It was a miserable failure all around. Just put the live show on the broadcast network in the afternoon, show a few highlights in primetime and be done with it. 

Edited August 17, 2016 by Minneapple

[cesstar]

I am just so thrilled for Amy Tinkler winning bronze on floor! She has had a fabulous Olympics and despite the British team trying to push the Downies and Frangapane but she has been by far their best performer. She wasn't even given the opportunity to do AA so that they could qualify Frangapane instead. And then in team finals despite having the highest beam score in qualifications (by over a point!), she was dropped to let Frangapane and B.Downie compete! I think the selection committee got it completely wrong with their line-ups - it was obvious in qualifications that she was coping the best with the pressure and was well-liked by the judges. This is a great outcome for her. And she's only 16 so hopefully we will see more of her in the future. 

[BlackberryJam]

Gotta say that Simone and Aly were adorable being interviewed by Bob Costas. Well, he just backed off and let them talk. They just had so much fun together.

[maraleia]

Bob Costas interviewed Aly and Simone just now and they were so damn funny. Mind you this was after they met Zac Efron so they were a little giddy and beside themselves. Outside of the food they were going to eat he was all they could talk about. I loved that they took over the interview and just started talking and didn't let Bob say much of anything.

[sereion]

OMG, that interview, though! I want to hang out with those two! I love it! 

I'm so happy for Aly; she was totally robbed of bronze AA, and I'm glad she won a medal in that event outright--now she had three more.to add to her collection. I'm going to miss her parents; their reactions made me chuckle. Congrats Madison and adorable Laurie for their medal wins as well. Gabby is still awesome--screw the haters.

[azshadowwalker]

8 hours ago, Daisy said:

 

I still very much maintain - the moment they realised the vault was off - that meet should have been scratched, and could have easily been done a day or two later. The fact that Svetlana Khorkina didn't go nuclear about learning that vault was the wrong height is beyond me, i would have gone legitimate Carrie in that situation. 

I agree. It was cruel that they not only didn't scratch the competition, but that they made the gymnasts keep competing while they dithered about what to do. In that time, thinking they would do nothing and her competition was essentially over, Khorkina fell on the bars. She never should have been up there to begin with. She handled it with far more grace than I would, for sure. 

Yes, I was and remain a fan, and I was really rooting for her.  Like Boginskaya before her, she had relative height and beautiful lines that were the epitome of grace for me. I still believe both her and Raducan were screwed by the organizers, the federation, the IOC, and (in Raducan's case) CAS. Everything about it screams, "Asterisk!" 

[WhitneyWhit]

1 hour ago, kalystia1983 said:

Just to clarify the rules for Tokyo 2020.  The team size will be reduced to 4 for team finals.  However, each country can qualify up to 2 other gymnasts for individual event finals, meaning the US will be able to send 6 male and 6 female gymnasts depending on how qualification goes.  It's going to be confusing on how to qualify so More info here  

The big thing is only 4 can compete in team finals and be on the team.  How this would have worked out in 2016 (in my opinion): Simone, Gabby, Aly, and Laurie would have been the team in team finals.  And then in qualification they would have put either Madison or Ashton Locklear up for bars, and then most likely Mykayla Skinner for vault and floor.  Probably one of the two would have gone up on bars as well.  

 

I've read that several times and I feel like I'm reading a foreign language. I'm not sure I'm understanding the rules (or maybe they're just vague) but does that mean that a gymnast can either compete for the team or a chance at the AA/EF but not both?

[Quilt Fairy]

This is way outta left field, but I have to ask: You know the series of tones they play in the arena when the groups start marching from one apparatus to another? The boop-boop-be-boop?  Does anyone else think it sounds like the intro to the Beach Boys' "Wouldn't It Be Nice"? I swear I've spent the last 10 days thinking someone's going to break into song every time they play it. OK, I'll leave now.

No, wait, one more thing:

THIRD BASE!

[Daisy]

31 minutes ago, Minneapple said:

The BBC and CBC are state owned or partly state owned. NBC is a private, for-profit network. Their business models are completely different.

I don't blame NBC for showing swimming and track live in primetime, because they're live events. And I don't blame them for not showing an event live on TV earlier in the day, then showing a tape-delayed package in primetime (NBC has maintained that this is a waste of time and I actually agree; it would be like Fox or CBS showing a full NFL game in the afternoon, then showing a condensed version of that same game in primetime). What I do blame them for is trying to wrap the tape-delayed gymnastics package around the live swimming and track. It was a miserable failure all around. Just put the live show on the broadcast network in the afternoon, show a few highlights in primetime and be done with it. 

When CTV owned the rights to the games, which is a private for profit network - they worked it exactly how CBC has it. Streaming of all events without needing to verify cable information, they showed live events when they were live, and highlights during the night and had prime time be prime time. I don't see why it would be a waste of time. Maybe you missed something, maybe you just want to watch it again, I don't know.  I just feel for a company that spent that much money on rights, they'd do a better job presenting the Games. 

[Steph619]

Congratulations to Simone and Aly for their respective gold and silver medals on floor today as well as Laurie and Simone for their respective silver and bronze medals on beam yesterday. 

The Final Five did an amazing job at these Olympics and I hope they all take a well-deserved vacation. 

[Scovies]

4 minutes ago, sereion said:

I'm going to miss [Aly's] parents; their reactions made me chuckle.

Aly's parents get a bad rep around here, but honestly, I don't blame them for acting the way they do. I get like that - really physical with my reactions - with my favorite gymnasts and football teams, and I don't even know the competitors. If a family member or loved one of mine was competing I'm sure I'd look obnoxious to outsiders too. Aly's parents don't seem like famewhores in the slightest and I was charmed by her brother crying over her AA medal; I think NBC just realized that they'd struck gold with them in 2012 and have kept a camera trained on them since. All they're doing is sitting in the stands and reacting to their daughter in a really perilous sport.

[Growsonwalls]

I think NBC coverage got worse once the line between professional and amateur blurred at the Olympics. I remember when it was a big deal that the Dream Team were going to the Olympics. The media covered them nonstop as they got acquainted with things like wearing USA uniforms and what not. People thought it was adorable that Michael Jordan was going around Barcelona doing Olympic things. Nowadays Michael Phelps, Simone Biles and Kerri Walsh Jennings are in the commercials nonstop. And surprise! They get lots of prime time coverage. I am actually glad that the live swimming and track events forced NBC to show some athletes and racers that they might not otherwise have shown. The track crew (Ato in particular but newbie Sanya is excellent too) is pretty good about talking about athletes from all over the world.

But the crappy coverage won't end because it's in NBC's interests to show heavily endorsed athletes. These companies are paying for their coverage.

[Dots And Stripes]

I too loved seeing Aly and Simone goof around in the Costas interview. I think this shows a nice side effect of the Simone hype: Aly may have wanted gold but she probably came to terms with silver a while ago. By contrast, Shawn Johnson was as gracious as she could be getting all-around silver in 2008, but people treated her silver as a disappointment and it affected her. I love that Aly and Simone are both so happy with their accomplishments. All of these gymnasts are incredible.

[kalystia1983]

18 minutes ago, WhitneyWhit said:

I've read that several times and I feel like I'm reading a foreign language. I'm not sure I'm understanding the rules (or maybe they're just vague) but does that mean that a gymnast can either compete for the team or a chance at the AA/EF but not both?

From what I understand and what I've read, qualification happens either by team or by individual. If a country qualifies more then 6 gymnasts (ie countries like the US, Russia, China, GB) then the country can determine which gymnasts go, it's basically the same process we have now.  If a country does not qualify a team then they have the opportunity to qualify multiple gymnasts to compete as individuals.  

As for the actual Olympics, from what I understand, is that in qualification all gymnasts who are on a team for a country will all compete in all 4 events and be able to qualify for team finals, AA finals, and individual event finals.  The gymnasts who are there as individuals are only able to qualify for individual event finals. 

For example if the team was Simone, Gabby, Aly, and Laurie and Madison and Mykayla were individuals, qualifications would have:

AA: Simone, Gabby, Aly, Laurie

Vault, Floor: Mykayla

Bars: Madison

The 4 on the team would compete in team finals, and I'm pretty sure the 2 per country rule will still apply, so only two would make the AA finals and each event finals out of all 6 gymnasts.  

What I'm not sure about and I don't know if anyone has really clarified is if individuals who represent a country that also has a team there can also do the AA in qualifications.  I assume not as the team will all have to do the AA in qualifications (no more debate on who does the AA), but I'm not clear on that.  

Basically its so that more specialists can qualify to the Olympics and countries that may have multiple gymnasts that are great at some events can qualify more athletes.  Also, pretty sure its so the FIG can encourage more people to compete in the World Cup and World Challenge Cup series as qualifying events.  

Edited August 17, 2016 by kalystia1983

[Sew Sumi]

[windsprints]

Regarding the rules change: so 4 will be able to compete in AA instead of 3? 

I missed the Costas interview. Hopefully it will be on youtube tomorrow. Simone's tweet after meeting Zac: 

[mightysparrow]

Simone won four medals (three of them gold) and all she got was Zac Efron??  Damn, you'd think an Olympic champion would at least get a celebrity who still has a career!!  Poor Simone has spent so much time in the gym she has no idea that Zac Efron is waaaaaaaaay past his sell-by date.

[Minneapple]

12 minutes ago, Daisy said:

When CTV owned the rights to the games, which is a private for profit network - they worked it exactly how CBC has it. Streaming of all events without needing to verify cable information, they showed live events when they were live, and highlights during the night and had prime time be prime time. I don't see why it would be a waste of time. Maybe you missed something, maybe you just want to watch it again, I don't know.  I just feel for a company that spent that much money on rights, they'd do a better job presenting the Games. 

If you missed something or you want to watch it again, an hourlong package of mostly American highlights is not going to be of much help. The app or the website would be much better for those purposes. But 30 million people (NBC's primetime audiences from last week) are not going to sit through a highlights package of a rebroadcast. Viewership for reruns is always way less than a first-run episode.

But however much we complain, NBC is doing something right, at least in the case of streaming everything.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-olympic-ratings-20160812-snap-story.html

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Through Sunday, online users have streamed 1.86 billion minutes of NBC’s Rio 2016 coverage, topping the combined number for London and Sochi, Russia. The network is making videos of every Olympic event available on its app and it is streaming its prime-time coverage of the Games for the first time.  

NBC is also airing Olympics coverage on NBCUniversal’s cable networks NBCSN and Bravo during prime time, giving viewers an alternative to the events airing on the broadcast network. But the growth online reflects the dramatic change in viewing habits over the last four years, making even a typically surefire TV event as the Olympics vulnerable to how viewers are consuming content. 

As the article notes, viewing habits have changed greatly. Yes, in some ways people are still creatures of habit. Clearly there are people who still want to sit down after dinner, turn on the TV and yell at Al Trautwig. But more and more, people are watching things on their phones and tablets and online. 

Really the biggest (and maybe the only) area NBC has fucked up broadcasting is in -- wait for it -- gymnastics, which is why we complain a lot in this thread. They wanted to have it both ways with gymnastics and it was NOT GOOD. But I remember complaints in byone years, when NBC didn't stream everything online, but showed the (better) tape delayed package in primetime: WHY CAN'T NBC JUST SHOW EVERYTHING LIVE? Well, now they do! But now we complain because they aren't giving gymnastics good play in primetime. I'm not sure how things will change for Tokyo. Maybe like with Beijing, NBC will lean on the IOC a bit to change gymnastics start times to, say, 10 a.m. Tokyo time. That would make for a solid primetime start here in the center of the universe, the East Coast of the United States (that's sarcasm btw).

[DawnDavenport]

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Also, really enjoyed the discussion about the 97-2000 US.  If anyone ever wants to relive the 2000 olympic trials, please use The Balance Beam Situation's meet snark-a-thon as a viewing guide: Part 1 and Part 2  Before reading that I had forgotten the whole crazy Shannon Miller situation lost in the rest of the insanity.  Something else I didn't know until recently, Atler at one point came out to say that between Day 1 and Day 2 of trials Bela called to let her know she wouldn't be on the team, but hey come compete at Day 2....yeah....

OMG. This is awesome. I"m only on Part I and I can't stop laughing. I love the caption right before Part 5 with Dantzcher and the Rybackis: “Me and mom after the accident, with mom’s new boyfriend Craig.”. HAHA

[Dots And Stripes]

Leyva gets two silver medals in one day, but no Costas interview. 

[voiceover]

4 hours ago, TigerLynx said:

I find the sexist and racist remarks really horrible

This is not the first complaint on this board about racist remarks -- what is going on with this?  IIRC that some of this was directed at Trautwig.  What did he say?  I'm surprised that NBC (not that I'm a fan) would give behavior like that a pass.  ESPN (example) generally blasts out at least a "The opinions expressed are not those of the network, blahblahblahhh..."

Is NBC storing ammunition against him to justify his ouster?

Edited August 17, 2016 by voiceover
Pointless speculation re motive

[Minneapple]

2 hours ago, kalystia1983 said:

Also, really enjoyed the discussion about the 97-2000 US.  If anyone ever wants to relive the 2000 olympic trials, please use The Balance Beam Situation's meet snark-a-thon as a viewing guide: Part 1 and Part 2  Before reading that I had forgotten the whole crazy Shannon Miller situation lost in the rest of the insanity.  Something else I didn't know until recently, Atler at one point came out to say that between Day 1 and Day 2 of trials Bela called to let her know she wouldn't be on the team, but hey come compete at Day 2....yeah....

OMG I'm dying. THANK YOU FOR THIS.

I was also fascinated by the discussion of the 1997-2000 gymnastics, as apparently I was focusing on Serious Things In College and didn't really watch much back then. It sounds like a totally dramatic soap opera. Cliques and athletes dissing coaches and not saluting judges and sneaking out to party and coaches yelling at gymnasts. They should make a movie. 

[Daisy]

22 minutes ago, Minneapple said:

Really the biggest (and maybe the only) area NBC has fucked up broadcasting is in -- wait for it -- gymnastics, which is why we complain a lot in this thread. They wanted to have it both ways with gymnastics and it was NOT GOOD. But I remember complaints in byone years, when NBC didn't stream everything online, but showed the (better) tape delayed package in primetime: WHY CAN'T NBC JUST SHOW EVERYTHING LIVE? Well, now they do! But now we complain because they aren't giving gymnastics good play in primetime. I'm not sure how things will change for Tokyo. Maybe like with Beijing, NBC will lean on the IOC a bit to change gymnastics start times to, say, 10 a.m. Tokyo time. That would make for a solid primetime start here in the center of the universe, the East Coast of the United States (that's sarcasm btw).

lol that's true. i mean. I can't complain. i love swimming - and I actually like how NBC covers it (i like Hicks and Gaines). it's really weird for me how I bounce back and forth. I just really know a lot of NBC fans who were frustrated (and then I know some people here who had issues with the streaming). someone above mentioned the blurry AM v. PRO lines and that makes sense. you need to show who brings in the bills. 

I had to laugh so hard at that. lol i really do feeel for you west coast people. I think the best time is Mountain. :D 
 

i was just having a debate with someone and all of them were just like well they should just take the artistic side of gymnastics out completely. i nearly flipped out lol and it wasn't even like i was saying that oh yah we need more dance elements or whatever, but I do think and I think this came up during beam. Sanne Wevers routine was unique, beautiful, and difficult. I get that it might not be for everyone (just like I know Aly's routines aren't for everyone, just like way back when Dominque Dawes/Kerri Strug were different than Shannon Miller and Lila Pod.) but I feel they were respected more. and you saw more aspects of it now it just seems that being unique and dare-devil-esque is what everyone wants - but in my mind.. sure someone can do an incredibly tumbling pass, with a blind landing and stay on - and it's difficult..

but I would think doing a triple twist, arabesque turn, full turn, on a 4 inch 4 feet high beam - is equally dare-devil-esque in a different kind of way and i just feel that is dying in this sport :(

[pivot]

2 hours ago, kalystia1983 said:

Just to clarify the rules for Tokyo 2020.  The team size will be reduced to 4 for team finals.  However, each country can qualify up to 2 other gymnasts for individual event finals, meaning the US will be able to send 6 male and 6 female gymnasts depending on how qualification goes.  It's going to be confusing on how to qualify so More info here  

The big thing is only 4 can compete in team finals and be on the team.  How this would have worked out in 2016 (in my opinion): Simone, Gabby, Aly, and Laurie would have been the team in team finals.  And then in qualification they would have put either Madison or Ashton Locklear up for bars, and then most likely Mykayla Skinner for vault and floor.  Probably one of the two would have gone up on bars as well.  

Also, really enjoyed the discussion about the 97-2000 US.  If anyone ever wants to relive the 2000 olympic trials, please use The Balance Beam Situation's meet snark-a-thon as a viewing guide: Part 1 and Part 2  Before reading that I had forgotten the whole crazy Shannon Miller situation lost in the rest of the insanity.  Something else I didn't know until recently, Atler at one point came out to say that between Day 1 and Day 2 of trials Bela called to let her know she wouldn't be on the team, but hey come compete at Day 2....yeah....

Loved coming home every day to read all the live event posts!  Will definitely miss those!

Is there still a 2 limit per country rule? Or is it 2 per team/country and then however many specialists qualify? Because if it is still 2 per country not sure how this fixes anything. 

I have to say after seeing both Skinner and Ashton's behavior on social media, the US didn't lose anything by not having them on the team. Totally classless both of them. Regan Smith who is the youngest is the only one who behaved with actual class. 

44 minutes ago, mightysparrow said:

Simone won four medals (three of them gold) and all she got was Zac Efron??  Damn, you'd think an Olympic champion would at least get a celebrity who still has a career!!  Poor Simone has spent so much time in the gym she has no idea that Zac Efron is waaaaaaaaay past his sell-by date.

Simone is nuts about Eforn. He's her big crush.

[DawnDavenport]

14 minutes ago, Minneapple said:

OMG I'm dying. THANK YOU FOR THIS.

I was also fascinated by the discussion of the 1997-2000 gymnastics, as apparently I was focusing on Serious Things In College and didn't really watch much back then. It sounds like a totally dramatic soap opera. Cliques and athletes dissing coaches and not saluting judges and sneaking out to party and coaches yelling at gymnasts. They should make a movie. 

It really was like watching a car speeding down a freeway with parts flying off.

[choclatechip45]

Talking about cliques remember the 2005-2008 quad? Chelsie vs Nastia!

Edited August 17, 2016 by choclatechip45

[voiceover]

1 hour ago, maraleia said:

Bob Costas interviewed Aly and Simone just now and they were so damn funny. Mind you this was after they met Zac Efron so they were a little giddy and beside themselves. Outside of the food they were going to eat he was all they could talk about. I loved that they took over the interview and just started talking and didn't let Bob say much of anything.

How much would I dig a podcast.  They could call it "Pizza with Us".  I could not stop laughing during their interview!

[Sew Sumi]

45 minutes ago, pivot said:

Is there still a 2 limit per country rule? Or is it 2 per team/country and then however many specialists qualify? Because if it is still 2 per country not sure how this fixes anything. 

I have to say after seeing both Skinner and Ashton's behavior on social media, the US didn't lose anything by not having them on the team. Totally classless both of them. Regan Smith who is the youngest is the only one who behaved with actual class. 

Simone is nuts about Eforn. He's her big crush.

What did they do? 

[Bastet]

Damn, Aly and Simone are fantastic on floor!  Once again, it's Aly's routine that grabs my attention even more than Simone's (I know nothing about what moves are harder to do; I can't even do a cartwheel, so it's all impossible to me), but they were both just so much fun to watch.  It's so great to see them walk away with gold and silver, because they both made an event I don't normally enjoy all that much pretty thrilling.

And, yay, I can get to bed before midnight.

[SophiaD]

Bravissime to Simone and Aly.  What a great note to end on for the women's team.  Two fantastic floor exercises.

I'm not sure I even remember who my nineteen-year-old crush was, but I'm pretty sure that if I got to meet him, I'd be just as giddy and delighted as Simone and Aly were.  I imagine all of the Final Five would be awesome slumber party guests.  That picture of him carrying Simone is just adorable.

Really wish that NBC had bothered to show gymnastics in its entirety during the day.  I work from home, so can't stream from my computer, but could have definitely had it on in the background.  That sucks for those of us who want to see all of the routines from all of the countries.

[GreyBunny]

It's really nice to see women gymnasts that look healthy and well fed.  I hope the trend toward starved, dead-eyed twigs that were all the rage in the 90's never returns.

[Steph619]

Simone and Aly's interview with Bob Costas was fun to watch. I find it endearing how despite being Olympic champions, they're just regular girls at the end of the day who get giddy about meeting a celebrity and in Simone's case, her crush. They genuinely seem to like each other and it's nice to see that they haven't let competition get in the way of their friendship.

I am interested to see if Aly will be able to come back for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics. I especially would like to see Laurie make it because I feel she has unfinished business to take care of with the all-around competition.

Edited August 17, 2016 by Steph619

[choclatechip45]

4 hours ago, Steph619 said:

Simone and Aly's interview with Bob Costas was fun to watch. I find it endearing how despite being Olympic champions, they're just regular girls at the end of the day who get giddy about meeting a celebrity and in Simone's case, her crush. They genuinely seem to like each other and it's nice to see that they haven't let competition get in the way of their friendship.

I am interested to see if Aly will be able to come back for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics. I especially would like to see Laurie make it because I feel she has unfinished business to take care of with the all-around competition.

I agree it is nice. Must be the team going to the ranch so much. I never felt as a whole team the '04 and '08 team were friends. While this team and the '12 team seem to be friends. It's probably a good thing since I'm assuming everyone besides Madison is doing the post Olympic tour. The team is going to NYC when the they get back.

Edited August 17, 2016 by choclatechip45

[FormerMod-a1]

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But the growth online reflects the dramatic change in viewing habits over the last four years, making even a typically surefire TV event as the Olympics vulnerable to how viewers are consuming content. 

I only have a minor quibble with this assumption. Yes, online viewership has gone up in general, but I know people who watch online because they have to in order to see shows they are interested in, not because they prefer watching online.  As for the Olympics, I have watched online, but also because I had to in  order to see full coverage of certain events like gymnastics.  I'd prefer it on my TV.  And to make matters worse, but this part is out of NBC's hands so not their fault, Chrome wouldn't play the livestream for some reason, so I couldn't even Chromecast to my TV since I had to view in MS Edge.  Of course, that didn't matter during the week because I was at work and if I wanted to watch live had to livestream on my iPad mini or my phone.  Which I'm really not supposed to do.  I should be working while at work. which I did.

[kalystia1983]

5 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

What did they do? 

Not the original poster, so not 100% sure about Ashton, but Mykyla has had a really bad social media issues.  There was one about a year or so ago where she was quoting a conversation with a friend that used the n word.  It was bad because she left it there for a few days even with a ton of backlash, and the rumor was that Utah (where she is going to school next year) had to tell her to take it down.  Then after the team was announced she (and her coaches) spent the next two days retweeting every comment that said she should have been on the team versus Gabby, and then retweeted a picture that photoshopped herself into the team photo where Gabby is and there were some emojis after that as well, and it was completely inappropriate.  She eventually took it down and put up an oops sorry post, but still.

[Rinaldo]

7 hours ago, mightysparrow said:

Simone won four medals (three of them gold) and all she got was Zac Efron??  Damn, you'd think an Olympic champion would at least get a celebrity who still has a career!!  Poor Simone has spent so much time in the gym she has no idea that Zac Efron is waaaaaaaaay past his sell-by date.

Aside from Simone having a special interest in Efron, as already noted, he's had 4 movies released in 2016 with one more scheduled, plus so far another waiting for 2017 release and another in pre-production for next year. I'm not sure how much more of a career he can be expected to have.

[choclatechip45]

Plus meeting your celebrity crush after winning the all around seems to be the new thing I remember in 2012 I think Entertainment Tonight filmed Gabby meeting the guy from Vamprie Diaries she had a crush on. At least we didn't have them fly out Justin Beiber to meet Jordyn. 

Also Ashton tweeted this the other night. You have to click on the link but it says watching the uneven bars final justice for Ashton.

It was rumored the USA gym was not happy with Skinners and Locklears comments and had a harsh talk with both of them. Also if they needed to replace anyone it would have been Ragan no matter what.

Edited August 17, 2016 by choclatechip45

[Crs97]

Is Ashton claiming Gabby's final bar performance meant she should have been chosen instead?  Maybe I don't understand her tweet.  I hope I don't.

[Indy]

2 minutes ago, Crs97 said:

Is Ashton claiming Gabby's final bar performance meant she should have been chosen instead?  Maybe I don't understand her tweet.  I hope I don't.

Or Madison getting silver instead gold. Either way, it wasn't something appropriate to retweet. 

[pivot]

 

6 minutes ago, Crs97 said:

Is Ashton claiming Gabby's final bar performance meant she should have been chosen instead?  Maybe I don't understand her tweet.  I hope I don't.

I think that is exactly what she is saying. She also retweeted some other nasty anti-Gabby crap after she didn't make the Olympic team and was made alternate.

I really think USA Gymnastics let this bullying get out of hand by not making Locklear and Skinner publicly apologize for their behavior and for waiting weeks before finally issuing 1 tweet defending Gabby. 

[proserpina65]

Well, it would've been nice to have seen more of the men's event finals.  You know, more than just 4 guys on parallel bars and five seconds of one guy on the horizontal bar.  Stupid me, I forgot to set the vcr for the daytime coverage and had hoped NBC would show the men.  Yeah, I shoulda known better.

[pivot]

Just now, proserpina65 said:

Well, it would've been nice to have seen more of the men's event finals.  You know, more than just 4 guys on parallel bars and five seconds of one guy on the horizontal bar.  Stupid me, I forgot to set the vcr for the daytime coverage and had hoped NBC would show the men.  Yeah, I shoulda known better.

They didn't show it on daytime tv. You can stream it on their app. That's the only way to see it unfortunately.

[choclatechip45]

12 minutes ago, Crs97 said:

Is Ashton claiming Gabby's final bar performance meant she should have been chosen instead?  Maybe I don't understand her tweet.  I hope I don't.

That's how I interpreted it or her replacing Madison. I followed Ashton on snapchat when they were at the ranch before the Olympics. I remember her posting a picture thanking Gabby for buying her a gift with what looked like earrings. 

[proserpina65]

4 minutes ago, pivot said:

They didn't show it on daytime tv. You can stream it on their app. That's the only way to see it unfortunately.

Well at least it was their fault I missed it and not mine.  I don't stream things (or have aps for that matter), so I guess I'll never see it unless someone puts it on youtube.  Thanks a lot, NBC.  You suck.

Edited August 17, 2016 by proserpina65

[choclatechip45]

7 minutes ago, pivot said:

I think that is exactly what she is saying. She also retweeted some other nasty anti-Gabby crap after she didn't make the Olympic team and was made alternate.

I really think USA Gymnastics let this bullying get out of hand by not making Locklear and Skinner publicly apologize for their behavior and for waiting weeks before finally issuing 1 tweet defending Gabby. 

I really don't think USA gymnastics really care about their athletes granted right now they have much bigger problems like the sex abuse scandal right now. Unless you are making money for them they don't care.