sereion

I agree this was a very good series, but it was tough to watch; I wish Netflix would've displayed a trigger warning in the beginning of each episode. Donny was exhausting, but given his failing comedian career; the trauma of being violated; in addition to dealing with an emotionally unavailable father and Martha, I showed him some grace. Not that I'm excusing his poor judgment and him making terrible choices, but I do think it was the makings of the person he's become. I hope do he's in therapy. The actress who played Martha, did an amazing job portraying her as sympathetic character, I see why Donny felt obligated to continue to contact her and listen to her recording after she was sentenced; especially when she explained origin of the "Baby Reindeer" nickname.

Thanks @Scarlett45 for inviting me to this fourm! I've never read the books, but I'm seen the movies, inclulding the orginal Flowers in the Attic with Louise Fletcher as Olivia. I saw the prequel, and man...so much to unpack. I do hope we see more films, I would love for them to explore more of Joel and Harry and Nella and her family--even Corrine and Christopher.

OMG No, I didn't!!! Thanks for sharing and the invite! I will definitely check it out!

The scene with she and Hailey, allow me to see it from her perspective; to her it wasn't about the money. The Pynk is her life; it is all she knows--without it, she's lost. Besides, Uncle Clifford is horrible with money, that 5 million will go faster than Usian Bolt's 100m world record time. Do I agree that she should have blocked Hailey access to her accounts.

I think we were all saying it, but unfortuntely, he's still on my screen...ugh. I saw the look of guilt on her stepsister's face, I think she was coerced by her stepmother. ..and she attacked a cop; given that cops are trigger happy towards black and brown people, she's lucky she got locked up. Just like the Flowers in the Attic Prequel I saw recently on Lifetime; the long suffering wife severely injures her husband and incapacitates him, he was totally dependent on her, and she made him miserable. That's what I want. Exactly, Handing her over to Terrica was a good gesture, but now that Patrice has two streams of income, there is no reason why she can't run Mercedes her coins--that is the least she could do. Mercedes should use that a leverage to get what she wants from Patrice.

I DESPISE Derek and that wicked stepmother; I want nothing but the worst for them. Good for Keyshawn for kicking his @$$; that was a long time coming, I just hate that she got locked up, and not Diamond can't come to save her, I have a feeling Derek will bail her out, she'll end up right back with him. I hope I'm wrong. Speaking of Diamond....ya'll called it. Big Bone down with Montavious's crew. I knew she's nothing but trouble. I don't know if he'll be back for Season 3. I hope he shifts the blame on Derek. So Hailey got played twice over. I can't say that she didn't deserve it--she overplayed her hand with Gerogie and lost out on $5 million dollars; additionally, she betrayed both Uncle Clifford and Mercedes after they saved her from Montavious. Loved the read Uncle Cliffor gave her, I just hate she emptied Clifford's account. I don't really don't care if she comes back for Season 3--well, at least the Pynk has been saved once again. Is Andre really going to stay with Brittney, after he admitted that he's unhappy with Brittney? He's was right; she didn't love the "real" Andre; the marriage was about status for her. I'm disappointed--yet not surprised that Patrice won, but I am here for the inevitable clash between she and Kyle. I still hate her for stealing money from Mercedes, but I think allowing Terrica to stay with Mercedes was her way of apologizing for being a trash mom. Speaking of Mercedes... I am so happy the finally got a win after two sesaons taking the L's. She got her mojo back from the pole; got a huge payday from the photos--which helped her fullfil her dreams of owning her gym; she got her daugther back, and finally, she could retire. I hope she moves forward. I love Uncle Clifford and Lil Murda together; the fact that she was willing to let Lil Murda go and pursure his dreams, and Lil Murda passing on the tour shows their true love.... and Lil Murda just lowkey confess to Mane that he popped Pico?? Dude is bold. Did Corbin said that he the liqour made him feel little C U Next Tuesday -ish. That said him selling his land for the casino and deny Hailey her payday a HUGE power move; well played, Corbin...well played. Yaaayyy!! Grandmuva Ernestine made it through!!

ROFL!!! But am I wrong tho? LOLOLOL!!!

Not Andre's wife making a surprise visit; now that he has a shot of winning the mayoral race, she wants to play politician's wife. I hope he doesn't take her back. I know most folks aren't feeling Andre and Hailey/Autumn, but I do find them intriguing; they have amazing chemistry on screen, and I do want to see them together--that may happen now that she could be pregnant. I have a love/hate thing with Roulette; I love her bad@$$ ways, but she’s nothing but trouble, plus she is sooo disrespectful to Mercedes. And pimp out Toi…trouble. The photos of Mercedes were sooo stunning, I loved how it was viewed as empowering, and patrons saw her as more than a stripper. Heck, I think it Mercedes felt empowered—that was right on time after the confrontation she had at the Pynk. I hope it inspires her to seek something bigger as Uncle Clifford suggested…… I’m glad she shot Faith down and set her boundaries, and kudos to Faith for respecting it. I think they’ll end up good friends. On a shallow note, I am sooo mad they had Faith looking like someone’s Auntie at a church cookout. Did the wardrobe crew borrow one of Tyler Perry’s bad wigs? I mean seriously. $h!+ is about to hit the fan after Big Bone saw Keyshawn kissing Diamond. She’s another one who’s up to no good. I am hoping for Keyshawn’s clean break from Derek. I realized the Pico’s demise was addressed on the last episode, but since it’s an ongoing storyline: Why did he think it was a flex to lie about popping Big Teak?? Why would anyone think it was cool to claim such a thing—and on video at that. It was mad disrespectful. I think Corbin and Uncle Clifford may have hooked up at some point during their friendship. Corbin is giving me closeted vibe. I hope Ernestine pulls through, too. I love seeing Miss Devine on my screen

Absolutely to both!!! I never heard of him was before his role as Big Teak, now I am officially a fan. Now, I want to check out his previous roles. This is definitely his breakthrough role, and I hope gets more work after this. Katori never misses--she is a masterful storyteller. An Emmy would be a great and deserving addition to the Pulitzer she won a few years ago.

Whew, this was tough to watch. I sense something was amiss with Big Teak, because he was very calm, peaceful--and even joyful throughout most of the episode and him letting Lil Murda go was writing on the wall. Despite Lil Murda's coaxing, his family trauma--which was horrific, years in solitary confinement and the inability to adjust to life outside of prison ;eft him broken to the point where he felt he was beyond repair. Now, I am worried for Lil Murda; I hope Uncle Clifford-- or someone can help him through this. Lil Murda admitting to Uncle Clifford that he was not okay is the most powerful scene in the entire episode. Men, specifically black men, internalize their problems and they are afraid to show their vulnerability for fear of being perceived as "soft", and that scene does a masterful job of relaying the message that is it's okay not to be okay. I love how this show allows men to be unapologetic with their vulnerability. I was cheering for Keyshawn when was making her escape, only for my hopes to deflate when that POS disabled the car. I hope he doesn't find that gun she hid in that pillow. I find it interesting that Coach was in his feelings because Mercedes and Faith got hot and heavy during the threesome--when it was HIS idea in the first place. What did he expect to happen? He was neglectful and dismissive towards Faith, and she got her needs met with Mercedes. He should've kept it between the two of them. I am mad at Faith for not insisting that Coach pay Mercedes--at least give her partial compensation as the job was not completed. Shelle had some calling nerve her an unfit parent when she's in no position to care for Terrika herself--who ended up like pregnant the same age as Mercedes. Corbin gets on my nerves. I don't recall him having this energy last season when his half brothers were disrespecting him. And why was Andre acting all brand new with Hailey at the event?

Did anyone notice how one of Keyshawn's stepsister cringed when her father kissed her?

Fun fact: Tyler Lepley who plays Diamond, and Blue Kimball who played Rome, are both "alumni" of Tyler Perry's. Tyler played Benny in the "Haves and Have Nots", and Blue was on "Ruthless"

That part. I would not be surprised it this end up happening. I hope it's doesn't, though.

I loved that Mississippi's backstory was Southern Gothic version of Cinderella; sadly, her story doesn't end happily ever after. She is still a victim of abuse and exploitation. I am so worried for her; I hope she finally finds the strength to leave--or at least call Woddy to "handle" Derek the way did Rome. She has so much potential, and I want to see her win. Speaking of Woddy, I love he is protective over her and Lil Murda. Derek is trash, but growing up in an abusive environment, in addition to the bitterness and anger of being disowned by his family, explains his rage. Tragically, he continues the violent cycle with Keyshawn and his children. .Big Teak is intriguing; I hope we get a backstory from his and his relationship with Lil Murda, and I want a love triangle between, him Murda and Uncle Clifford