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[debraran]

7 hours ago, chocolatine said:

As long as it doesn't involve skinny-dipping, I'll be OK with it.

Joking aside, I find any and all scenes where people meet in the afterlife extremely cheesy, so I hope this show steers clear of that trope. 

ETA: Just checked my TV listings, and the episode after the next one is titled "Miguel" - I hope it doesn't end with his death, but knowing this show, it probably will.

Yes, no skinny dipping, lets not jump the shark in any way ; )  Yes Miguel, is after the Kevin and 3 ladies soap opera and then something about a train. I forgot the second to last one and last just said finale.

I hope they steer clear of that ending too and think of something unique. I thought maybe a classy ending is seeing the kids growing up and then her grandkids and if they must show dead souls, let it be a group. Miguel, Jack holding Kyle, or Kyle running to her, still really cheesy but if it's just Jack, way too Hallmark-like for me and not respectful to Miguel for me to feel anything.

[AriAu]

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But the thing is, it would give short shrift to Rebecca and Miguel's relationship.  Yes, I know Jack was the love of her life, but it just seems that if they do something like this, it'll totally trivialize all the years she spent with Miguel and treat him as an afterthought. 

Since we haven't seen much of their courtship or even relationship, it is hard to assess the depth of relationship and feelings. With what we have seen, their relationship appears to be more about companionship-they have their TV shows and routines, even before the dementia kicked in. We never saw a lot of passion or even joy between them. He is clearly a quality person, loves Rebecca and is a great friend to Jack (and Rebecca), but he is clearly not the love of her life (altho she might be the love of his). Maybe that is giving short shrift to it, but based on what we have seen, the history of TIU (and it tendancy to want grand gestures) and frankly TV dramas, if she is going to be "greeted" in the after life, it WILL be by Jack.....altho maybe Miguel and William will be standing in soft focus a few yards behind!  

[gonzosgirrl]

22 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I was on my laptop during part of the show last night.  Did they show the Pearson Wobble dance at the reception?  If not, it’s here.  Was on NBC and posted by Sterling.  Maybe, it’ll air next week?

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CcjH-ORJsfJ/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=1a5fd704-8c9e-4dfb-a089-da17fecfe73e

 

On Susan's Instagram of this same clip, she says 'don't give us time between scenes!' so it seems like it was the actors, not the characters :)

[Empress1]

1 hour ago, AriAu said:

We never saw a lot of passion or even joy between them.

I agree about passion (and some of that may be due to a certain level of … quieting down that happens as some people age - I think if things had gone the other way and they’d gotten together instead of Miguel moving to Houston, we’d have seen more passion between them. Him leaving elicited a pretty passionate response in both of them) but I do see joy. They’ve always seemed happy together to me, even when they’re dealing with the other’s kids treating them badly.

[bluegirl147]

2 hours ago, AriAu said:

Maybe that is giving short shrift to it, but based on what we have seen, the history of TIU (and it tendancy to want grand gestures) and frankly TV dramas, if she is going to be "greeted" in the after life, it WILL be by Jack.....altho maybe Miguel and William will be standing in soft focus a few yards behind!  

This has always been my problem with the afterlife (if there is one).  What if you have multiple marriages?  What if your first love dies and you find love again? What if the person who thinks you were their great love but you don't feel the same way and you meet up in the afterlife?  I agree with the poster that said Rebecca should get to be with Kyle.

[Good Queen Jane]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

This has always been my problem with the afterlife (if there is one).  What if you have multiple marriages?  What if your first love dies and you find love again? What if the person who thinks you were their great love but you don't feel the same way and you meet up in the afterlife? 

You Sadducee! (Sorry, this very question appears in the Gospels. The answer given is basically that the dead are transformed in the afterlife to a whole different existence with no husbands and wives. But I'm sure the Pearsons would speechify their way to a special exemption.)

Edited April 21, 2022 by Good Queen Jane

[AriAu]

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 I agree with the poster that said Rebecca should get to be with Kyle.

TIU has never really shown Rebecca as missing Kyle....after the very beginning. Not saying she didnt because she is a caring mother and I cant even fathom the pain they suffered, but it is not something they really showed us.

[Toothbrush]

I’d ugly cry if Rebecca is shown being reunited with Kyle, but I get the feeling I’ll be rolling my eyes at the ending instead. I’ve been eye rolling-watching (as opposed to hate-watching) for a while now.

My Speculation: Ending will be Randall’s presidential inauguration and he will give the longest inaugural speech in the history of the world. Images of Jack, William, Rebecca, & birth mom (forgot her name) Laurel will be projected onto the White House. Special guests will be the fireman who brought him to the hospital, the police officer who didn’t arrest him on Thanksgiving Night 1998, and Rebecca’s former boss who took a chance on her because of Randall’s powers of persuasion speechifying. While Randall drones on, images of people all over the world raptly listening to him Pearson preach will be shown. And we viewers will be shown that the entire series was Randall looking back on his & his family’s life in order to prepare for this speech. But not the campaign; he campaigned based on the fact that is brother is The Manny (in its 25th season and the original twins are now grandparents). 

Toothbrush: 

Edited April 21, 2022 by Toothbrush
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[PRgal]

30 minutes ago, Toothbrush said:

I’d ugly cry if Rebecca is shown being reunited with Kyle, but I get the feeling I’ll be rolling my eyes at the ending instead. I’ve been eye rolling-watching (as opposed to hate-watching) for a while now.

My Speculation: Ending will be Randall’s presidential inauguration and he will give the longest inaugural speech in the history of the world. Images of Jack, William, Rebecca, & birth mom (forgot her name) Laurel will be projected onto the White House. Special guests will be the fireman who brought him to the hospital, the police officer who didn’t arrest him on Thanksgiving Night 1998, and Rebecca’s former boss who took a chance on her because of Randall’s powers of persuasion speechifying. While Randall drones on, images of people all over the world raptly listening to him Pearson preach will be shown. And we viewers will be shown that the entire series was Randall looking back on his & his family’s life in order to prepare for this speech. But not the campaign; he campaigned based on the fact that is brother is The Manny (in its 25th season and the original twins are now grandparents). 

Toothbrush: 

This is way better than my deathbed Kyle (whose son is the REAL Randall and a toddler in 2022) storyline)!

[LexieLily]

On 4/15/2022 at 10:47 AM, absnow54 said:

I did however, see speculation that Rebecca thinks Kevin is Jack, and that Kevin has been wearing Jack's ring through the deathbed scene to keep up the rouse. That I would find weird, even for the Pearsons.

That is...an option. (There was the same speculation about Uncle Nicky and his ring before the flash-forward where we learned he was married to Edie.) When Kevin comes into the room in the cabin to see Rebecca, does anyone remember what he says? I remember Randall saying "It's me, Randall. Your son."

[bluegirl147]

2 hours ago, AriAu said:

TIU has never really shown Rebecca as missing Kyle....after the very beginning. Not saying she didnt because she is a caring mother and I cant even fathom the pain they suffered, but it is not something they really showed us.

I would  have liked to have seen an episode that showed what would have happened if Kyle  hadn't died.  How that would have changed the dynamic in their household.  Without Randall to favor would Rebecca have favored one of the other kids?  And what would have become of Randall?

[AriAu]

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That is...an option. (There was the same speculation about Uncle Nicky and his ring before the flash-forward where we learned he was married to Edie.) When Kevin comes into the room in the cabin to see Rebecca, does anyone remember what he says? I remember Randall saying "It's me, Randall. Your son."

Kevin says "Hey Mom"...checked it out on Youtube and then Nicky comes in and says "Hey Dad".

In looking at the clip, it struck me that the coldness between Kevin and Randall made sense when the episode appeared, but makes less sense with what we saw in the wedding fast forward, which showed a happy and good relationship between the 2. So we will see at lot more retconning

Edited April 21, 2022 by AriAu

[chabelisaywow]

I am catching up.  I was cringing through the singing of "Saturday in the Park." She is no Mandy Moore. Kate just annoys me.

[Violetgoblin6]

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Edited April 23, 2022 by Violetgoblin6
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[Violetgoblin6]

On 4/21/2022 at 5:07 AM, debraran said:

Yes, no skinny dipping, lets not jump the shark in any way ; )  Yes Miguel, is after the Kevin and 3 ladies soap opera and then something about a train. I forgot the second to last one and last just said finale.

I hope they steer clear of that ending too and think of something unique. I thought maybe a classy ending is seeing the kids growing up and then her grandkids and if they must show dead souls, let it be a group. Miguel, Jack holding Kyle, or Kyle running to her, still really cheesy but if it's just Jack, way too Hallmark-like for me and not respectful to Miguel for me to feel anything.

Okay, I wonder if the train episode will be Rebecca on a train to heaven and meeting people on the way. Of course, Jack will be last. Kinda like Mitch Albom's The Five People You Meet In Heaven.

[chocolatine]

20 minutes ago, Violetgoblin6 said:

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So now we know who Kevin ends up with.

[debraran]

6 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

So now we know who Kevin ends up with.

Is that his home, the big one?

 

[Violetgoblin6]

27 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

So now we know who Kevin ends up with.

Yeah. Ken Olin deleted it soon after posting it. But some say it could be deliberately misdirected.

 

Lol, at this point I'm over the Kevin mystery. It's gotten to the point where they personally beat the dead horse too much.

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[chocolatine]

3 minutes ago, debraran said:

Is that his home, the big one?

Looks like it. In the flash-forwards so far we have seen Kevin, Nicky, and Kevin's twins already there, and Randall, Beth, their three daughters, and Edie arriving. We saw Toby at (presumably) a nearby hotel. The only people in this picture that we haven't yet seen in the flash-forwards are Madison, PMJ, Jack, Sophie, and the parfait girl. Only people missing from the picture are Kate and Hailey, but we know that they're alive in the future from other flash-forwards.

1 minute ago, Violetgoblin6 said:

Yeah. Ken Olin deleted it soon after posting it. But some say it could be deliberate misdirected.

I wouldn't put anything past Ken Olin. It could turn out that Sophie wanted to be there because of her relationship with Rebecca rather than with Kevin, but that would be really stretching it. And we don't see Elijah in the picture, so it's possible he meets an unfortunate ending and Madison gets back together with Kevin, but again, that would be stretching it.

[debraran]

6 minutes ago, Violetgoblin6 said:

Yeah. Ken Olin deleted it soon after posting it. But some say it could be deliberate misdirected.

 

Lol, at this point I'm over the Kevin mystery. It's gotten to the point where they personally beat the dead horse too much.

I never thought I'd feel that way and i do. I don't know why they turned it into Clue. It was always above that except when they did it with Jack's death. My daughter said everything is so fast now, she doesn't feel much of anything but said she's glad she didn't like this year as much because it's a good time to say goodbye.

I guess those are the twins older but the blonde with them? IDK. I like seeing the tape on the floor for "marks".

Edited April 23, 2022 by debraran

[Ohiopirate02]

Just now, Violetgoblin6 said:

Yeah. Ken Olin deleted it soon after posting it. But some say it could be deliberate misdirected.

 

Lol, at this point I'm over the Kevin mystery. It's gotten to the point where they personally beat the dead horse too much.

I just can't think someone like Ken Olin, a person who's been in this business for some time, accidentally posting this picture days before the next episode already being marketed as "who will he choose?"  I can't help but think this was deliberate to get engagement online and hype up fans to discuss the super important question "who's Kevin going to end up with?" Some over on Reddit are so involved with this "mystery" that they are practically stalking the social media of the three actresses.  I've seen a few comments on how it can't be Cassidy because Jennifer Morrison is filming another project somewhere else.  Whoever the show has chosen for the Second Mrs. Kevin Pearson is whoever it's going to be.  The show is capable of shooting episodes out of order in order to accommodate the different actresses schedules.  

I honestly do not care at this point.  I have made my displeasure of Sophie being endgame known, but I am prepared for it to be her.  Or, Sophie is working for Kate and Kevin as a nurse for Rebecca.  That is not out of the realm of possibility.

[debraran]

Well Alex said 2 years ago she filmed in old age makeup but would always be coy in how her role was and just said I hope for wife, will be glad to be good friend. Of course they filmed those scenes probably all at once because Kevin's son and daughter would change too much. Can't have one child actor in bedroom and then another playing his son in kitchen scene.

I can't believe Ken would have such an out of focus pic either unless on purpose.

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Whos is in recliner? Director?

 

[chocolatine]

6 minutes ago, debraran said:

Whos is in recliner? Director?

I think it's Nicky/Griffin Dunne.

[debraran]

6 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

I think it's Nicky/Griffin Dunne.

I thought so but seemed different. Kind of blurry though. He is scruffy. : )

[Gemma Violet]

This may have already been mentioned, but someone on the This Is Us facebook points out that the Titanic mention by Philip was an Easter Egg for a possible scene like Jack on the staircase at the end of Titanic as well as the "I'll never let go, Jack!" statement.

[debraran]

22 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

This may have already been mentioned, but someone on the This Is Us facebook points out that the Titanic mention by Philip was an Easter Egg for a possible scene like Jack on the staircase at the end of Titanic as well as the "I'll never let go, Jack!" statement.

Oh no!! Please no...have mercy and use your brains for a classy ending. I know they can do it but I'll prepare for the worst. ; )

[statsgirl]

2 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I just can't think someone like Ken Olin, a person who's been in this business for some time, accidentally posting this picture days before the next episode already being marketed as "who will he choose?"  I can't help but think this was deliberate to get engagement online and hype up fans to discuss the super important question "who's Kevin going to end up with?"

Olin has definitely been around long enough that this was no accident. But I don't understand the point of it. Sophie fans will be thrilled; those who wanted Madison or Cassidy or someone new will go "meh, guess I can wait to see the episode some other time."

Are we supposed to be speculating if the blonde is Sophie or Madison?

[Mrs Shibbles]

What’s with all the moustaches? Jack tribute?

[Pallas]

Someone in Ken Olin's office is having a bad weekend. Twice. 

[debraran]

46 minutes ago, Mrs Shibbles said:

What’s with all the moustaches? Jack tribute?

Well it definitely is the future time with Rebecca, they are all wearing the same clothes.  Maybe they thought the mustache aged Kevin. Nicky has same shirt just put a sweater over it.

 

Edited April 23, 2022 by debraran

[CrystalBlue]

So last night for the first time I watched the 35-year-old film The Princess Bride.  I will spare a critique of the actual film.  Knowing the show has made a big deal out of this being Kevin & Sophie's favorite movie, and it inspired the PB toast at Kate's second wedding, I'm guessing the fact that Sophie has always been a blonde a la Princess Buttercup, (I know Madison and Cassidy are blondes too, but Sophie was first) is an indication that Sophie is The One.

[nilyank]

5 hours ago, chocolatine said:

So now we know who Kevin ends up with.

Blech. She is so not interesting.

I am just sadder that Miguel is not there.

Edited April 24, 2022 by nilyank

[debraran]

I barely remember that movie with my children, the Princess bride and they are 30 now. I do remember they liked it and I thought it was funny that Peter Falk was in it from Colombo. Over the years I have heard certain people of various ages say it was their favorite movie but one of the funniest I saw lately was at a  convent. Some Dominican nuns were showing their convent and extensive library of books and videos on a tour on YouTube. One of the younger sisters excitedly showed a DVD they were going to watch that day which happened to be The Princess Bride. There is no escaping it…

Edited April 24, 2022 by debraran

[Diana Berry]

8 hours ago, chocolatine said:

So now we know who Kevin ends up with.

Ty for the pic.  A few weeks ago, I was excited about it but at the Eh point now.

so what if they go for a reincarnation storyline for Jack and Rebecca for the finale ? They meet again feel a connection …and so it goes on.

[debraran]

7 hours ago, Diana Berry said:

Ty for the pic.  A few weeks ago, I was excited about it but at the Eh point now.

so what if they go for a reincarnation storyline for Jack and Rebecca for the finale ? They meet again feel a connection …and so it goes on.

He was smart to put out  pic that really didn't show anything new, but did show one new person we didn't know would be there.

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I think that is Philip to the right, maybe with a mustache too , lol,  but everyone else was supposed to be there. Alex didn't give many interviews but it was all over social media she was there, filming in old makeup with the rest of them meant she was there. She said, they didn't show it yet, she wasn't the "core" family they wanted to show in the preview. I like how he still leaves out Kate but just showed who we know would be there. It was still nice but even Edie was shown by now showing up.  I assume the dark haired girl is Haley and the boy with Philip is a slimmed down Jack Jr. ?

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by debraran

[himela]

18 hours ago, chocolatine said:

So now we know who Kevin ends up with.

I'm confused. How do we know?

[Veronica]

I kinda thought when Rebecca said to Kevin while thinking he was Jack, that Kevin and Sophie would would work things out (or however it was phrased) was a huge hint that Kevin would end up with Sophie. 

That pic that was posted - neither Kate or Miguel are in it, right? 

[Rootbeer]

1 hour ago, himela said:

I'm confused. How do we know?

Because the actress who plays Sophie is there, on the right side of the picture, standing near Susan Kelechi Watson who is sitting.  While it could be that she is there as Rebecca's nurse, it is more likely that she and Kevin are married.

1 hour ago, Veronica said:

That pic that was posted - neither Kate or Miguel are in it, right? 

Nope. but we know Kate is still alive because she is shown in the flash forward with adult young Jack performing.  There have been no flash forwards of Miguel past Kate's wedding to PMJ.

I presume there will be scenes at Rebecca's deathbed with everyone praising Kate for the incredible job she did as Rebecca's power of attorney after Miguel died.  How no one could have done as well as she did, how her 'infectious smile' was so special to their mother.

Edited April 24, 2022 by Rootbeer

[debraran]

I don't think much of Sophie yet since the actress never hid she did these scenes but it was nice seeing her there. Philip without Kate unless she was on bathroom break : )  We know "she" or someone brought Jack and his sister. I don't recognize one blonde with kids but tht might be someone related to them or a character we don't know.

[ProudMary]

1 hour ago, Rootbeer said:

I presume there will be scenes at Rebecca's deathbed with everyone praising Kate for the incredible job she did as Rebecca's power of attorney after Miguel died.  How no one could have done as well as she did, how her 'infectious smile' was so special to their mother.

Blech. You're probably right. 🤮

Although I've watched every episode of this show, I truly can't wait for it to end. 😄

[Violetgoblin6]

20 minutes ago, debraran said:

I don't think much of Sophie yet since the actress never hid she did these scenes but it was nice seeing her there. Philip without Kate unless she was on bathroom break : )  We know "she" or someone brought Jack and his sister. I don't recognize one blonde with kids but tht might be someone related to them or a character we don't know.

It is Madison. Her hair is longer and I recognized her big smile. 

It stands to reason thqt in 10 years or so fashion wouldn't have changed that much.

[debraran]

12 minutes ago, Violetgoblin6 said:

It is Madison. Her hair is longer and I recognized her big smile. 

It stands to reason thqt in 10 years or so fashion wouldn't have changed that much.

That would make sense but her face seemed fuller and the straight hair was nice but different. I guess that was "aging" her. It was more the face though.

 

[Diana Berry]

21 hours ago, chocolatine said:

So now we know who Kevin ends up 

 

funny Reddit is all over the pair of shoes to the right of the picture.  Is it Miguel, Elijah or Malik? 

[mansonlamps]

It still makes zero sense to me why Toby would be included in this particular get together.  Or Madison, frankly.

[Ohiopirate02]

10 minutes ago, mansonlamps said:

It still makes zero sense to me why Toby would be included in this particular get together.  Or Madison, frankly.

I agree.  The show is shoehorning in characters because they feel they owe it to the actors to be there instead of writing sendoff. Chris Sullivan's last episode should have been Katoby.  Or, bring him into scenes with Adult Jack if the show does go beyond Rebecca's death.  Madison should also be gone or only seen in the background after Kate's wedding weekend concludes.  Just because these adult actors were in season one episode one, doesn't mean they need to be in the finale.

[statsgirl]

Madison is the mother of Kevin's children, Rebecca's grandchildren. If for no other reason, she's going to have to deal with the twins' feelings about Rebecca dying.

[Pallas]

Madison and Toby are, thematically, part of Kevin's "This Is Us" picture. It's also time for the This Is Us final image. For her departure, Rebecca has assembled a tableau vivant of that same idea, letting them know that her legacy is in their memories and in their lives.

[mansonlamps]

1 hour ago, statsgirl said:

Madison is the mother of Kevin's children, Rebecca's grandchildren. If for no other reason, she's going to have to deal with the twins' feelings about Rebecca dying.

I don't think she has to be there to deal with their feelings,  after all Kevin will be there.  I wonder how many families invite ex husbands and wives to their parents' deathbeds just because they have children.  It feels inauthentic.

[CrystalBlue]

2 minutes ago, mansonlamps said:

I don't think she has to be there to deal with their feelings,  after all Kevin will be there.  I wonder how many families invite ex husbands and wives to their parents' deathbeds just because they have children.  It feels inauthentic.

A lot of ex-spouses get together for various functions and events, such as weddings, funerals, children's graduations, etc.  To the Pearsons, gathering around Rebecca for one final goodbye is a big deal to them.

[JKL845]

I can understand Toby and Madison being at Rebecca's funeral. However, the scene at the cabin around Rebecca, seems too intimate for either of their characters at that point in their lives and relationships with the family. But each family decides these things for themselves.