S06.E12: Hearing Problems

[motorcitymom65]

Tired of Kyle's crying. Kim isn't even on the show and every other episode, Kyle is crying about her. Over it!! She needs to stop with the whole "don't talk about my sister" crap. The women had their own separate interactions with Kim and it was on the show. I mean I think it is boring and don't want to hear about Kim, but I don't like Kyle's snobby attitude about the whole thing. Half the time she brings it up. She doesn't get to control what is said.

Half the time? When? Kim was brought up twice in this episode, and neither time by Kyle. I only remember her bringing up Kim in the first episode. Every other time she is responding to it.

I am torn as to how I feel about Lisar. Sometimes I really like her, and other times not so much (which is how I feel in real life about many of the people I deal with). At the lunch I think she was just wrong. She acts like the deal with Kim was the defining moment in her life. It just doesn't ring true. Hell, Kyle made less of her and Mauricio being accused of being users to gain clients, and even Brandi made less of Game Night. She just goes on and on about it, even while saying that she knows it makes Kyle uncomfortable. She just needs to stop with it.

[zoeysmom]

Finally, we heard one of them express what so many of us here have been saying.  We knew that they noticed it too, even if they were careful all this time not to say anything on camera.  LisaV is my hero of the night for saying what she did!  Of course Yolanda didn't want to hear it.  But LisaV said it, and now it's out there, and I could not be happier!

 

 

I flashed right back to her treatment of Joyce too.  That mocking, childish, superior thing that she does.  Her derisive laughter makes me really angry every single time we've seen her do it.  She literally laughs in someone's face AT them, as though she's the intelligent one and they're far too stupid to understand.   Just so offensive on so many levels.  She really does think she's better than everyone else.  Self-centered judgmental bitch.

 

 

 

Yes, that was really rude.  When someone shows you their house, it's common courtesy to say complimentary things, as all the other HW's were doing.   But when they were shown the infrared sauna, Erika interrupts with, "I have an infrared sauna".  And then since no one responded or seemed to notice or cared, she kept saying it louder and louder.  It's not nice, Erika, to be given a tour of someone's home and try to steal their thunder.  Be a gracious guest.  (And, for the 10,000th time, no - Everyone does NOT need a little Erika Jayne in their life!)

 

And yes, that "BBQ" was tacky.  Her need to be surrounded by gay guys and to have them fawn all over her has gotten really old too. 

It was perfect moment for LVP to bring it home that Yolanda can't write or re-write history.  Yolanda kind of got her soap box kicked out from under her by LVP.

 

Someone did Yolanda a great disservice by ever telling her she was intelligent.  I am not saying they should tell her she is lacking intelligence, maybe just not let it become a point of discussion.  She is insufferable.  She further brought that point home when not only is she in touch with Brandi and Kim, but in spite of all their issues they are the most compassionate of the group.  

 

Why is it Erika  brings on the gay scantily clad men to play in the pool and invite the other women's husbands?  Did her husband want them around?  I can't even remember if her husband was around.   Very classless-right in there with Carlton and the naked women burning their inner thighs on the outdoor stripper poles at Carlton's event. 

[mwell345]

It's amazing how one episode - one scene - with Yolanda can drag the entire show down.  What a mess.

 

The conversation about Kim in Kyle's presence should never have happened.  Kudos to Erica for trying to shut it down (but that's the only Kudo she gets from me).  Good for Kyle to walk away, and Lisa Vanderpump follow her.

 

(And what was that flashback scene with Lisa R and Kim in the car?  Yeah, it was scary.  Who made Katherine the Keeper of English Language with the right to question what words people use?  Were you there Katherine?  No.  Shut up. )

 

Now on to the fiasco that is Yolanda. And her illness. And her integrity. And the word she can only pronounce some of the time.

 

As I see it,  Lisa Rinna was involved in a conversation with probably some non-Bravo (i.e. real)  friends where the subject of Yolanda comes up.  Lisa takes part in the conversation (we still don't know the extent of her involvement or what she said).   Lisa tells some of the HW's about the conversation, and she looks up the word that Yolanda can only pronounce some of the time because she's brain fogged.   Lisa feels bad she took part in the conversation.  Erica runs to her friend Yolanda and tells her all about it.  Lisa Rinna also tells Yolanda about it, and apologizes and Yolanda seems to accept the apology.

 

Should be the end of the story. 

 

But at some point, probably when she is re-packing for the King,  Yolanda's brain apparently clears and she becomes angry because Lisa should have her back, and her "integrity" was questioned.   News Flash:  Lisa Rinna is not the only one questioning Yolanda's "integrity".   And Yolanda, for all her "integrity" does the exact same thing she accused Lisa Rinna of doing.

 

For her part, Erica, who initially refused to own the fact that she was the one who blabbed to Yolanda in the first place, now suddenly has some of Yolanda's "integrity" and wants to know WHO SAID IT.  (Oh, I wanted so bad for Lisa Rinna to say: "Brandi").

 

Lisa Vanderpump gets points for bringing up Yolanda's "indiscrepancies".  But brain fog again kicks in because Yolanda doesn't seem to grasp that the reason her illness is open for debate is because of her contradictory actions.  

 

I think it's also worth remembering that for most part, these women are NOT friends - they work together.  I doubt Lisa Rinna knew Yolanda prior to filming. I doubt they see each other when they are not filming.  The truth is, they are co-workers who are forced to interact with each other like all of us have to do with our coworkers.   So enough of the "you're my friend and you should have my back and bring me casseroles". 

 

Maybe it's time Bravo stopped putting these coworkers into forced situations, where they have to pretend they're friends,  and instead focused on their individual lives with limited interaction.

Edited February 17, 2016 by mwell345

[ButterQueen]

Oh snap.....Mr. Girardi put Erika in her place....but oddly it made me feel sorry for Erika.  He's a real prick.  The way he was fawning over and flirting with Lisa, in front of Ken, was disgusting....and Ken looked very uncomfortable.  No amount of money could keep me in a relationship like that.  He made sure the VP's knew who was BOSS in his marriage.  Not a nice look.

 

Lisa Rinna ....please just shut the fuck up!  She turns every situation into her own....and she is just so loud and obtrusive.  And her showing her daughters the poems written by her sister, who died of a drug overdose, shows just how callous she really is....where was her compassion for Kim?  I really am starting to hate her. Loved Kathryn calling out her lack of eating though.  

 

Oh Kathryn and her man child....what can I say?  Her crying about her Dad seemed a bit over the top given the little she knew of the Kim situation.  I hope she is one and done for this show.

 

Eileen is just boring me and I hate it, because I've loved her since Y&R.  She almost plays the clueless blonde part.

 

Kyle, I felt for you at the luncheon because I understand you don't want to hurt any progress you have made with Kim by being involved in another conversation about her.....BUT....then you go and blubber to Adrienne....ON CAMERA.  Bitch, please!

 

Lisa, you know a slime ball when you see one, and good for you on how you handled Mr. Girardi at dinner.  She wasn't buying his snake oil.

 

COULD WE PLEASE MOVE ON FROM KIM RICHARDS PLEASE.

 

[zoeysmom]

Half the time? When? Kim was brought up twice in this episode, and neither time by Kyle. I only remember her bringing up Kim in the first episode. Every other time she is responding to it.

I am torn as to how I feel about Lisar. Sometimes I really like her, and other times not so much (which is how I feel in real life about many of the people I deal with). At the lunch I think she was just wrong. She acts like the deal with Kim was the defining moment in her life. It just doesn't ring true. Hell, Kyle made less of her and Mauricio being accused of being users to gain clients, and even Brandi made less of Game Night. She just goes on and on about it, even while saying that she knows it makes Kyle uncomfortable. She just needs to stop with it.

I was pleasantly surprised when Kyle made her statement and stepped away.  It was not dramatic and over the top, she did not expect silence on the situation about her sister, she supported her sister where her sister deserved support.  I think Lisar was deeply hurt on two levels, one with the anorexia comment, which was repeated by Brandi at the Reunion and the second by "putting out in the universe" Harry had done something nefarious or had something to hide.  I think Lisar overcompensates and   plain overacts from time to time, but I think she really wanted to have a conversation with Kim about the Harry allegations.  Kim would not give it to her and I think it really bugs her. 

 

I also thought her conversation with Adrienne was both compassionate and appropriate.  While these women were reading the tabloids and the on  line escapades of Kim, Kyle and her family and Kim's children were living it.  With two stories in the group now of death due to addiction and drug use, it is not such a stretch that Kim's family was very concerned.    Oh and I forgot to add Yolanda claiming the only reason she hasn't jumped is to stick around and cure the Lyme Disease of the non-Gigis.  These were pretty serious issues surrounding Kyle and her sister health and wellness was in the balance. 

 

I only hold Rinna about 15% responsible in the Kim debacle.  I think there was a time she should have backed off and the text messages were unnecessary.

[zoeysmom]

Oh snap.....Mr. Girardi put Erika in her place....but oddly it made me feel sorry for Erika.  He's a real prick.  The way he was fawning over and flirting with Lisa, in front of Ken, was disgusting....and Ken looked very uncomfortable.  No amount of money could keep me in a relationship like that.  He made sure the VP's knew who was BOSS in his marriage.  Not a nice look.

 

Lisa Rinna ....please just shut the fuck up!  She turns every situation into her own....and she is just so loud and obtrusive.  And her showing her daughters the poems written by her sister, who died of a drug overdose, shows just how callous she really is....where was her compassion for Kim?  I really am starting to hate her. Loved Kathryn calling out her lack of eating though.  

 

Oh Kathryn and her man child....what can I say?  Her crying about her Dad seemed a bit over the top given the little she knew of the Kim situation.  I hope she is one and done for this show.

 

Eileen is just boring me and I hate it, because I've loved her since Y&R.  She almost plays the clueless blonde part.

 

Kyle, I felt for you at the luncheon because I understand you don't want to hurt any progress you have made with Kim by being involved in another conversation about her.....BUT....then you go and blubber to Adrienne....ON CAMERA.  Bitch, please!

 

Lisa, you know a slime ball when you see one, and good for you on how you handled Mr. Girardi at dinner.  She wasn't buying his snake oil.

 

COULD WE PLEASE MOVE ON FROM KIM RICHARDS PLEASE.

Kim is coming back Butter Queen, this is the big set up for her return. (YUCK)  I thought it was encouraging Kim had reached out to Adrienne.  I always thought Adrienne showed Kim great compassion without having to hate on Kyle.  It was also refreshing to see Adrienne had solved some of her own demons and was on cordial terms with Paul and working with him. 

 

I have to say the Girardi dinner was some really bad chopped up editing.  I didn't realize Erika hit the trifecta with Girardi, short, fat and bald.  He was a pompous ass and it comes from years of pandering to class action plaintiffs.  I doubt Girardi has seen a jury in years.  He seemed a little addled with his description of Erika's show as art.  I will be curious to see if he ever engages with Mauricio, Harry or Vince.  I must say I agreed with LVP-I loved him sending Erika to her room. 

[ottergirl]

First of all, you guys give me LIFE with your insightful comments and delightful shade, and not infrequent compassion.   Honestly.  Thank you. 

 

My thoughts, in no particular order:

 

1.  I think that the producers cast Erica so they could get Tom because they thought "WHO IS SMART ENOUGH TO TAKE DOWN LISA VANDERPUMP?" and they had to go all the way to a world class litigator to pull it off.  The way he called her an alligator - "not in your looks" because it's not insulting to compare her to having the PERSONALITY of an alligator as long as he doesn't say she LOOKS like one - is brilliant.  Her response, to pretend to be flattered? Even better.  It took six seasons but  I think they have finally found a worthy adversary for LVP.

 

2.  LVP reiterated why she is so hard to beat when she managed to actually argue with Yolanda about Yolanda's illness AND WIN.  Especially in the bonus footage, when LVP shut her down so thoroughly ("We're just confused, darling, because you say you haven't been out in a year, but you were running with us through the city,") that Yolanda had to do her own version of crying uncle, only of course in her case, it's "Lyme brain! Lyme brain!"

 

3. This wasn't on camera, directly, but my current most frustrating thing is the narrative from a number of people that if Kyle really cared about her sister she would have taken the season off, but Kyle would NEVER do that because Kyle MUST be on camera.  a) How is that different from EVERY OTHER MEMBER OF THIS FRANCHISE?  If they weren't narcissists with an unhealthy need for attention, THERE WOULD BE NO SHOW.  So to single Kyle out is unfair, in my opinion.  b) So let me get this straight, because KIM is an addict, KYLE should quit a job that she enjoys and does well?  Like Kim's addiction hasn't cost Kyle enough?  Personally - and YMMV - I have agreed with 75% of Kyle's actions this season regarding Kim.  I get that she is conflicted about talking about it on camera because Kim isn't there to defend herself.  She hasn't said other people can't do it - just that she doesn't want to.  The 25% I don't get is the part where she will happily talk about it with Bethenny, Faye and now Adrienne.  In other words:  she will have the conversation, but only on her terms.  Which makes her like Yolanda and Lyme Disease.

 

4.  I really despise Yolanda.  Her hypocrisy and insane judgmentalism and nastiness is sort of staggering to me.  I agree with those who say that you can see her mask "drop" sometimes - when she gets a look of glee on her face to see Erica attack someone on her behalf, or when she makes a good point against Lisa Rinna - and it is terrifying.  My thing is - if an apology isn't enough, Yolanda, what do you want?  Blood, apparently.  

 

5.  And it is becoming VERY apparent that Lisa Rinna is collateral damage in the true fight against LVP.  In Season Four, Yolanda armed herself with Brandi, which was like going into battle with a single handgun with a faulty trigger and a broken scope (likely to fire at any time, and hit anyone); this season, she has come not just with Erica, but with Erica's world class attorney husband, PLUS an illness immunity shield.  Yolanda is making her last stand, folks.  This is going to be good.

 

6.  Finally, this episode pointed out  - YET AGAIN - how glad I am that Brandi is no longer on the show.  None of those scenes could have ever played out with Brandi, because five minutes in, she would have started screaming, cursed, and either thrown wine, slapped someone, or stormed out crying.  She did not have the emotional maturity or intellectual ability to follow or create a sustained argument/interaction and she hijacked every situation.  The BBQ scene was powerful because you could see the power dynamics shifting all the way through.  Never would have happened with the old cast. Well done on that front, Bravo.

 

(Do we feel like Bravo really doesn't like LVP behind the scenes?  They do seem to try herd to pull her mask back every season or so.  I think the producers can't STAND having a HW with the self control and intelligence to manipulate the narrative herself; they want that job left strictly to them.  Fist bump of respect to LVP, who I do NOT always like, at all, but who I do have to show props to for this particular skill.)

 

And finally:  Eileen is my favorite.  Even more than LVP, she seems to be the voice of reason.  She was able to articulate why the issue is complicated - that it's not just about "we believe Yolanda" or "we are bad people".  Plus she gave Yolanda some specific and well deserved shade in her blog this week. Plus she has a great sense of humor and the ability to laugh AT HERSELF which LVP would rather die than do.  Love you Eileen!

[ButterQueen]

What I mean is that he a plaintiff's personal injury trial lawyer and his clients are really injured or dead, so it is unlikely he is having these client dinners. His name isn't the biggest name amongst plaintiffs' personal injury lawyers anymore and I do wonder how often he is even in trial and working these days.

I believe his firm associated in the PG&E Hinkley case and so I thought he did work with her on that case - although her boss was likely Masri, not him; you don't suddenly have a new boss just because another firm is co counsel. I think he still hires her firm for investigation type stuff.

My son-in-law is a PI trial lawyer.  He meets with the clients....the ones bringing the lawsuits...whether for themselves or for the victim.  

[jennylauren123]

OK, Adrienne's face is gonna pop if it get any tighter. And I suspect fake cheekbones would surface.

 

Kyle shouldn't wear cutoff pants. She had on a nice jumpsuit, but it was cut off halfway down the calf. You gotta be extremely tall to pull that off.

 

Erika was in full eye-roll mode as Kathryn was talking about her dad's suicide. Nice! It was quick, but the camera caught it.

 

And speaking of Kathryn, her upper lip looks like raw meat, and her husband looks like a GI Joe doll. 

 

Oh! And no matter how high Erika holds her imperious head, she can't make up for bad grammar, such as "We haven't DRANK rose in years." And I'm guessing she didn't have that snotty head tilt when she was serving drinks at the casino. I'm guessing Girardi likes Lisa because she's a little sharper than the Barbie he married. Ken looked a little ruffled at the dinner. 

[ghoulina]

Everyone just needs to stop. 

 

Rinna needs to stop acting so traumatized by her fight with Kim. She acts like it was something akin to being raped. The woman said some mean things, you threw a glass. Move on already. 

 

Kathryn needs to stop bossing everyone around, trying to tell them what they can and can't talk about, how they should feel about things, etc. 

 

Erika needs to stop with the rotating group of sycophants and admirers. 

 

LVP needs to stop calling animals "sexy". 

 

Kyle needs to stop caring so much what others think. 

 

Yo needs to stop saying "hausen smausen". You looked it up, you're supposedly an expert now. Just say the damn name. 

 

And Eileen needs to stop looking so damn good! She amazes me. She and I do not have the same style (none of these women represent my style, I'm a weird subculture girl), but I end up loving everything she wears. She just looks effortless. 

 

 

 

Anyhow, I'm mostly tired of Yolanda. I feel like the entire season has been co-opted by her and her "journey of 5 years". Or was it 3? Maybe 10? Who fucking knows? I am sure she is sick, and I think the other ladies are too. For the most part. But I think the issue is, some of them feel like she takes the legit sickness and ramps it up to 5000. It's not enough to have Lymes. She has to have the worst case of Lymes disease we've ever seen and be the queen of all suffering. And when you act that way, I think that opens the door for people to start to doubt you. 

 

Let's be clear, I do not think Rinna brought the Munchausen topic up as innocently as she makes it out to be. I don't think she mentioned it to Kyle and Lisa V simply because she had "engaged" (another word I'm getting sick of) in a conversation with some random person and felt bad about it. I do think someone brought it up to her. She claimed on WWHL it was her hairdresser, but I think it was Taylor. At any rate, I think when this person brought it up, her gossip radar went up and she couldn't wait to drop this little morsel in front of the other women and see if they'd bite. They didn't, so she backed off and tried to change the narrative. I don't know WHAT Rinna really believes, but I think she just likes gossip. I also think she's very careful about how she handles it. She reads the room and if others aren't on board, she doesn't run with it. 

 

So yea, I get how Yo would be perturbed, because it IS because of Rinna that that accusation made it on camera. But let's remember that Yo is putting a lot of this crap out there herself, and like I said - she's really opening up to the door to speculation and commentary. If she can't handle it, she shouldn't have put this all on camera. At any rate, none of the women have actually come out and said, "I do not think you are sick". So she needs to JUST STOP. I really think she is enjoying this drama, because the idea that her "friends" might be against her makes her even more of a victim. She's eating it right up. 

 

 

 

Other random thoughts:

 

Was I the only one that thought it was odd when Erika said that knowing Kathryn lost her father to suicide makes her like her more? I get that she was probably saying that hearing a personal story made her seem more human, but still....

 

Lisa V had way more chemistry with Tom Girardi in 10 minutes than Erika has in all of her episodes. When the latter speaks to her husband, it's as if she's apprising the butler of her goings on. Lisa, on the other hand, seemed quite enamored with him. Watch out, Ken!

 

This episode should have been called, "Carnival of Butts". How did you drop the ball on that one, Bravo????

[Bluedog100]

I just thought it was funny that when we finally saw Yolanda in a bright color it looked like a color very close to lime green!

[mwell345]

Rinna's blog is up - some excerpts - I think she has Miss Erika nailed:

 

"I’m really seeing that there are definitely two distinct sides to Erika. There is Erika Girardi, distinguished attorney Tom Girardi’s wife, who graciously invited me over to discuss how best to approach Yolanda and come clean about the Munchausen discussions. It was Erika Girardi who assured me to just be honest with Yolanda and that she would be so appreciative that I came directly to her to address the situation.

 

Then we have Erika Jayne, who gives zero f---s and tosses honesty out the window. Erika Jayne who has no problem belligerently yelling at me twice now, disregarding any of the advice that Erika Girardi has given me. I’m not so sure I can trust this version of her, so I need to be very aware of which Erika I am dealing with."

 

Katnerine's blog is up too, but I have zero interest in it. 

Edited February 17, 2016 by mwell345

[kokapetl]

If even stoner Kim managed to notice that Lisar barely eats, I think Lisar barely eats. I think she left the Hamptons dinner to basically avoid eating, I don't think she was nauseous, more anxious if anything.

[IKnowRight]

What Kim, Brandi and now WoFo are doing is holding the RHOBH wives hostage to their issues. Just like Vicki G on RHOC. They either sucked the wind out of everyone's sails or are hammering the others and therefore the audience. Can you imagine if we, the audience, sometimes feel stressed watching WoFo's manipulations, how it must feel to be in the middle of all that physically? I can't stand people who are miserable and in turn feel the world owes them because somehow they are at fault...in WoFos case for not being ill like her. They are not loyal because they dare ask questions. So, let's get even by ensuring that those who betray the great WoFo are attacked and miserable too. WoFo is exhausted? Well thanks Yo for exhausting everyone around you.

I can't believe I am saying this, but I was so glad Taylor mentioned the inconsistencies way back at LVP's party. I don't care for Taylor, but I was glad that finally someone mentioned the obvious on camera way back then.

It is so clear that WoFo has been gunning for LVP since the fall out of Lisa and Brandi. Too bad for WoFo and Brandi that trying to recruit Kyle to their camp didn't work out for too long. Kudos to Kyle and especially LVP for speaking up at Erikas BBQ table. We do know that because LVP used facts, that WoFo is now going to go full on scorched Earth.

Just like on the OC, no one wants to watch these shows to have them hijacked by liars and hypochondriacs. I say, bring the superficial on! I want to see the closets, the shopping, the trips. For me, it's an escape show. I think it's Bravo that insists these shows highlight hidden misery not the glamour because that's best for ratings. It's Bravo that seemingly prefers to paint a narrative that behind the gates are only nasty hypocrites. After all, just like WoFo, we must make sure that no fun is had if it's not shared by everyone, 24/7. But hey, that's just my opinion. I don't care about that, I originally tuned in for the "Lifestyles of the rich and famous," and you get attached...if you continue to watch, you have to endure the Jerry Springer fights along with limited glimpses of the glamour.

Example: just looking inside the life of Erika Girardi would be fun...even her alter ego (though I don't care for Erika Jayne & her paid sidekicks) and Tom, but, it turns out we are also treated to Erika the loyal turncoat who is just a WoFo prop in the end. Her screaming about, "who said it Rinna!!!??" When we all know she didn't want to fess up herself.

The only reason WoFo won that poll is because most of her current support is from the GiGi and non Gigi fans. No, it's not common to go back to your first ex husbands name after divorcing your second. Most people in that situation keep their latest last name or go back to their maiden name. She's doing it for the association. Her kids are not babies anymore. Lots of people want to keep the same name as the children's names, but going back & forth? No.

[escapetoreality]

Who won the poll on WWHL? One segment of smirking Yolanda was all I could endure.

[ottergirl]

 

Let's be clear, I do not think Rinna brought the Munchausen topic up as innocently as she makes it out to be. I don't think she mentioned it to Kyle and Lisa V simply because she had "engaged" (another word I'm getting sick of) in a conversation with some random person and felt bad about it. I do think someone brought it up to her. She claimed on WWHL it was her hairdresser, but I think it was Taylor. At any rate, I think when this person brought it up, her gossip radar went up and she couldn't wait to drop this little morsel in front of the other women and see if they'd bite. They didn't, so she backed off and tried to change the narrative. I don't know WHAT Rinna really believes, but I think she just likes gossip. I also think she's very careful about how she handles it. She reads the room and if others aren't on board, she doesn't run with it. 

 

 

Personally, I think Lisa R brought it up that way because producers used "a psychic said it" last season on RHOC and they couldn't go to that well again.  

 

Seriously - think about it - all the Brooks stuff started in theory because a psychic said he didn't have cancer!!  Of course that was a huge Macguffin - producers couldn't convince any of the women to start that conversation on camera, so they had a psychic do it; then the women could chime in by commenting on what the psychic said.

 

Producers couldn't use the psychic angle again, so they reminded Lisa Rinna she's a hustler, waved a contract at her, and she said "I heard it from someone".  She wouldn't agree to make the claim herself, but she agreed to relay it.  For the camera.  From someone.  Duh.  

 

Note to the world:  by SOMEONE, you mean PRODUCTION, but you can't say that.  My guess is that Lisa Rinna's main hairstylist is a male, so she said "my female hairdresser", who is probably either fictional or has agreed to be the source for the story.

 

Yolanda is mad because if Lisa Rinna had not agreed to be the messenger, the story would not have been on camera.  

 

I am mad, because I don't think Yolanda has Munchausen's, which is a very specific illness (almost a psychosis), but I DO think she's a big faker, phony, and hypochondriac, and I wish they had gone with that angle.  They tried it with Taylor, but for whatever reason, didn't think it was strong or provocative enough?  So they went a different way.  

[allboys]

 

Rinna needs to stop acting so traumatized by her fight with Kim. She acts like it was something akin to being raped. The woman said some mean things, you threw a glass. Move on already.

 

I so agree. Rinna is the one that got physical.  Kim asked her multiple times to stop talking about her problems and she wouldn't let it go.  Now Kyle has asked them to stop talking about it and they just can't.  I feel for Kyle. She seems to be the only one that realizes that she's being filmed and what is being said could come back on her when Kim sees it. 

[ottergirl]

One last thing - Lisa Rinna showed us how a housewife's reaction can create or control a narrative.

 

1.  "Lisa Rinna has an eating disorder."  She doesn't care.  Didn't care when Kim did it (although Eileen and Kyle did), didn't care when Kathryn did it.  It doesn't progress.

 

2. "Lisa Rinna is bipolar."  She doesn't care.  In fact, she stayed cogent enough to point out that she doesn't care about the bipolar comment, but she did notice Yolanda's attempt to accuse her of it sideways. No one today is questioning whether Lisa Rinna is bipolar.  It didn't take.

 

3.  "Let's talk about the husband."  BATF--KING CRAZY INSANE GLASS THROWING RESPONSE.

 

So look - let's all learn from LisaR what LVP already knows:  if you don't react, no matter what they say there is no story.  If you do react....

 

I don't think Yolanda has Munchausen's.  I DO think Yolanda wants that to be a storyline, because she knows she doesn't have Munchausen;s, she's happy to be accused of something mean that isn't true, and she can use it to advance her narrative.

 

Wow.  I really despise Yolanda.  She makes a great villain, though, I will give her that.  Maybe that's her true calling!

[Grey Goose]

nah.

 

Team Yolanda on this one.  She's right.  Lipsa put it out there in the universe.  She knew damn well there was a camera in her face, and this mythical "unknown person" didn't have 1.7 million people listening to that until Lipsa said it.

 

When you are right, you are right.  Even if you are annoying.

Yolanda put her story, with all its bizarre inconsistencies out "in the universe" first.  Yolanda wants to be talked about and the center of attention.  Don't put all your business and its crazy unbelievable timeline out to the world 1,000 times and think you can prevent normal, rational people from observing it doesn't add up. Don't post staged medical care photos and expect most reasonable adults to say, "Hmmm, that photographer appears to be photographing her from the ceiling.  Could this be staged instead of a candid?"

 Get your lies, straight, Yolanda.  Or, alternately, stop telling them.  A big star such as Yolanda should know that she would need a team of marketing/social media experts to have any hope of controlling her message "ALL ABOUT ME and MY CHARLATANS".  She was her own dumb self-absorbed messenger and she done f'ed it up.  All that bs about educating people.  Well, Yolanda, most educated people have questions about the type of shit story you're shoveling.

 

I think people often get stuck emotionally at the age where they have experienced trauma.  I have seen it with a few people in my life.  They keep revisiting things with the emotional maturity they had at the time of the trauma.  My guess for Yolanda is that she feels she never go to be a self-absorbed, my lies won't catch up with me, I am invincible in my STORY OF ME and no one can tell me otherwise teenager and she has the money and means to get her do-over adolescence in a big way.  She's not exactly a smooth persuasive person, she's a rude snapping immature tunnel visioned not well educated poorly nurtured and seldom disciplined angsty 15 year old.  Not elegant or classy or erudite a'tall.  Good thing she has her looks.  It's the only thing she has.  

 

I keep coming back to if she was so confidant in her story and medical journey, she wouldn't be so defensive about trying to prevent other people from speaking.  Her energy in the pool scene was focused on making sure no one else had a voice.  That's not how advocates work.  That's not how any of this works. 

 

She's gross.   

[ghoulina]

I love it last night when Craig Ferguson said Yolanda looked healthy-I thought her head was going to spin off her neck when she had to correct him and tell him she may have looked good but felt bad.  A little standing "O" when Craig didn't let her have her moment.  He questioned her comment she would rather look bad on the outside and feel good than look good on the outside and feel bad on the inside.  He didn't let her have the moment.  (Cartwheels.)

 

This is a prime example of how you can't win with Yolanda. If you tell her she looks awful, she'll scold you for commenting negatively on a woman's looks. If you tell her she's looking great, she'll be all, "Well, I don't feel great! I feel horrible. I am sick, didn't you know??? Are you trying to discredit my disease of 100 years???"

 

Half the time? When? Kim was brought up twice in this episode, and neither time by Kyle. I only remember her bringing up Kim in the first episode. Every other time she is responding to it.

 

Very true. And while I get where Kyle is coming from - they're trying to work on things and she feels disloyal sitting and listening to people talk about Kim - I do understand that it's a topic a lot of people are curious about. I get Adrienne asking about it. I get the women tittering about the recent arrest. But I thought Rinna's mention of Kim at Kathryn's house was really weird. They were talking about food and Kathryn said Rinna never eats (which was rude) and Lisa just JUMPED on the opportunity to bring up the whole fight she had with Kim. As if KIM is the only person who ever questioned her eating habits. She could have simply said, "This is something I've heard crap about my whole life and I'm pretty sensitive about it, so I would appreciate you not commenting on what I eat or don't eat". It just seems, to me, that Rinna is oddly obsessed with Kim, and can't stop acting like Kim wronged her more than anyone ever has. It's a bit much, and I can totally understand why Kyle excused herself. 

 

Why is it Erika  brings on the gay scantily clad men to play in the pool and invite the other women's husbands?  Did her husband want them around?

 

I am pretty sure she said Tom was out of town on business. I did think it was weird. Were they their as her friends? Because they weren't sitting down to eat with the other guests. Were they paid entertainment? Free entertainment? That would be a little odd, and demeaning. 

 

(And what was that flashback scene with Lisa R and Kim in the car?  Yeah, it was scary.  Who made Katherine the Keeper of English Language with the right to question what words people use?  Were you there Katherine?  No.  Shut up. )

 

Yea, she was out of line with that. I get what she was saying about labeling addicts, but you also cannot dismiss with the feelings of people who have to put up with addicts. My grandfather was an alcoholic and sometimes at gatherings he would just start yelling at us kids, for no reason, and it WAS really scary. 

 

And speaking of Kathryn, her upper lip looks like raw meat, and her husband looks like a GI Joe doll.

 

No truer description was ever written. Hats off to you!

[Yours Truly]

Unfortunately, as much as Kyle wants to wipe it all way, Kim's evil behavior hurt people in an immediate, one-on-one way. Kim's bad behavior doesn't always relate directly to Kyle, so I can't stand how she tries to always minimize the pain Kim caused others with the "She's my sister, I can't hear this" bs.

 

I always find it intriguing the amount of torture and tragedy that is put on Kim with regards to the other cast members. I mean WOW, she disrupted filming schedules during her time on the show and got into some heated back and forths with a couple of them. They all have had some doosies amongst each other actually. But the narrative of her causing such heartache and turmoil to the cast always strikes me as such an amusing stretch. Most of the intense stuff was mainly with her sister Kyle and as for the rest of the cast she was mostly just a nuisance. But hey I guess the threshold of pain and suffering varies from person to person. I grew up with thicker skin and a lot more to worry about and didn't have time to attach myself to other people's problems so unnecessarily. I find it really messed up that Lisa R is so determined to jump on the hurt train and be so invested in someone else's family problems but can't be bothered to put her focus on her own family issues that has more than enough to fill up her need to be distraught and hurt over something.  So very confusing to me.

Edited February 17, 2016 by Yours Truly

[jnymph]

Erika's dog was beautiful.    Wish I could remember his/her name.  

 

That's all I got.

[ghoulina]

Also, am I the only nasty one who has turned Yolanda's "brain fog" into an excuse in their own life? I am very forgetful; I'm always forgetting stuff at the store. I make hot water instead of coffee. I re-wash clothes that have already been washed and dried. I used to blame it on "mom brain" (I have 3 little ones at home). But lately I've taken to telling my husband and kids, "Sorry, I only have 45% brain function". It just sounds so much better. 

 

Am I going straight to hell???

[tenativelyyours]

It was perfect moment for LVP to bring it home that Yolanda can't write or re-write history.  Yolanda kind of got her soap box kicked out from under her by LVP.

 

Someone did Yolanda a great disservice by ever telling her she was intelligent.  I am not saying they should tell her she is lacking intelligence, maybe just not let it become a point of discussion.  She is insufferable.  She further brought that point home when not only is she in touch with Brandi and Kim, but in spite of all their issues they are the most compassionate of the group.  

 

Why is it Erika  brings on the gay scantily clad men to play in the pool and invite the other women's husbands?  Did her husband want them around?  I can't even remember if her husband was around.   Very classless-right in there with Carlton and the naked women burning their inner thighs on the outdoor stripper poles at Carlton's event. 

 

 

She really has become the Sarah Palin of the Real Housewives hasn't she?  There is that bizarre subset of raving egomaniacs who truly believe, even when they know they are the stupidest person in the room or flat out wrong, they are still right.  Complete with YoYo doing the classic move of knowing she is wrong but simply states the argument is about something else in which she can then be right. 

 

Hey YoYo, I hear harpies have wings.  So fly.. 

 

ETA: ghoulina, since Brooks the Crook I have simply told my friends no matter how well I look I want you to think, speak and act about and towards me as if I have only weeks to live.  I'll let you know in a couple of years if you need to stop.  (I only tell those who don't know my medical history or are close enough to get my dark humor)

Edited February 17, 2016 by tenativelyyours

[RedheadZombie]

I wonder if Kathryn and Rinna were enemies by the time those THs were filmed. Kathryn's comments regarding Rinna's eating habits were anything but innocent. She used words that are code for eating disorder.

I wonder if Erika's dog is trained in protection. He had minimal personality and Lisa was much less overtly affectionate with him than any other dog I've seen.

The Rinna bipolar comment was interesting. Erika's the one who used it on camera, yet next week she's again playing innocent.

[IKnowRight]

One last thing - Lisa Rinna showed us how a housewife's reaction can create or control a narrative.

1. "Lisa Rinna has an eating disorder." She doesn't care. Didn't care when Kim did it (although Eileen and Kyle did), didn't care when Kathryn did it. It doesn't progress.

2. "Lisa Rinna is bipolar." She doesn't care. In fact, she stayed cogent enough to point out that she doesn't care about the bipolar comment, but she did notice Yolanda's attempt to accuse her of it sideways. No one today is questioning whether Lisa Rinna is bipolar. It didn't take.

3. "Let's talk about the husband." BATF--KING CRAZY INSANE GLASS THROWING RESPONSE.

So look - let's all learn from LisaR what LVP already knows: if you don't react, no matter what they say there is no story. If you do react....

I don't think Yolanda has Munchausen's. I DO think Yolanda wants that to be a storyline, because she knows she doesn't have Munchausen;s, she's happy to be accused of something mean that isn't true, and she can use it to advance her narrative.

Wow. I really despise Yolanda. She makes a great villain, though, I will give her that. Maybe that's her true calling!

Completely agree with your post.

It's like letting the air out of the balloon when you don't take the bait.

What we have seen, is because WoFo is always right, because she's the smartest one in the room (cough, cough) and had Brandi and now Erika Jayne at her side, she is not having that...no matter how much you apologize, try to change the narrative, explain your case, WoYo refuses to listen. If you go deep and actually bring up the inconsistencies and support your comments with examples caught on camera, watch out, WoYo will come for you!

Remember Puerto Rico? That was propelled by WoFo. Brandi could not have succeeding in trapping LVP if it wasn't for WoFo getting it going multiple times. The accusations of abuse on Ken. Her scoffing and treating Joyce like she didn't deserve to even breathe the same air as Yolanda. Now we see her smirking, laughing and screaming at anyone who dares ask pointed questions.

LVP is the expert of not letting the chatter create a campaign against her. She just doesn't bite. But, Brandi & Yo wouldn't allow her to get away with her "strategizing" and coming out unscathed, so they were relentless in their attacks until they made it happen. That is exactly what WoFo was doing to Rinna. She accepted no apologies, put it out there about being bipolar, tried to recruit Eileen & Kyle as well.

While I sometimes question the ethics of Mohamed Hadid and personality of David, the King, Foster, I now truly empathize with them for putting up with the sour lemon ice queen. Wow! I used to really like Yolanda, until the varnish came off when she started with the "Dream Team" shtick.

Edited February 17, 2016 by IKnowRight

[Yours Truly]

Everyone just needs to stop. 

 

Rinna needs to stop acting so traumatized by her fight with Kim. She acts like it was something akin to being raped. The woman said some mean things, you threw a glass. Move on already. 

Goodness! So much this!!!!!

[swankie]

The Rinna bipolar comment was interesting. Erika's the one who used it on camera, yet next week she's again playing innocent.

 

 

Wasn't it Yolanda who threw out there that she could call Rinna bipolar, but she wouldn't?  And it was Eileen who brought this info back to Rinna, or am I thinking about something different altogether?

[LizDC]

Erika's dog was beautiful. Wish I could remember his/her name.

That's all I got.

He's a Dutch Shepherd named Tiago.

https://twitter.com/erikajayne/status/699780706759798786

[Chicosan]

Sorry if this has been asked and answered previously....I can't seem to recall (menopause-induced brain fog ). Has Yolanda ever contacted the few true Lyme disease specialists for an accurate diagnosis and treatment regime? I know there is a website to find Lyme expert physicians but there are a couple of doctors who have made significant headway in the treatment of Lyme and who have bucked the medical system by going against those in the AMA who say Lyme disease is not an actual diagnosis. There are probably less than 5 of these physicians in the country, we have one here in Michigan and there is one I know of in S. Carolina. She would be doing a much better service to Lyme disease patients if she was under the treatment of one of these rare experts and could promote the heck out of him/her to enlighten other Lyme sufferers. Since Lyme disease is so difficult to diagnose (after ruling out everything else) I don't understand why she travels the world and pollutes her already sick body with "treatments" from people who really aren't trained in the specifics of Lyme disease. I bet she has aggravated her condition by these desperate "cure" trips and has delayed any real medical treatment of Lyme. I wouldn't be surprised if she really does have Lyme disease (and a touch of the dreaded Munchhausen), but her desire for attention, sympathy and fame has derailed her.

And the changing of her last name back to Hadid sealed it for me.

[ButterQueen]

I'm very bored of Yolanda's illness, but I really loved her putting LisaR on the hot seat about the "Munchiehouse" comment.  LisaR started the whole thing by saying she engaged in a conversation with someone about it.  I honestly believe that Yolanda did not know the definition of the word when LisaR apologized.  LisaR was starting crap and now she's being called on it.  

[ElDosEquis]

If even stoner Kim managed to notice that Lisar barely eats, I think Lisar barely eats. I think she left the Hamptons dinner to basically avoid eating, I don't think she was nauseous, more anxious if anything.

If you don't eat, you don't have to puke it up later on?

[ElDosEquis]

Erika's dog was beautiful.    Wish I could remember his/her name.  

 

That's all I got.

Yolanda.

[Juliegirlj]

Even though it was amusing to see LVP flirt with Tom Girardi, and I loved him shutting Erika up, it gave me a gross feeling. Good thing he's never home because short, old, bald and rich guy has no chemistry with his own wife. I loved Kathryn's house- I admit it. Her hubby is cute until he opens his mouth and then he looks like a rat. Rinna is pretty easy to read, as someone above mentioned- she gives zero F's if you call her bipolar, or anorexic, but, mention anything about her marriage to Mr Hamlin, and she goes berserk- it cannot have been easy to be married to him all these years.

[kokapetl]

If you don't eat, you don't have to puke it up later on?

That would ruin her teeth! Can't have that.

[HumblePi]

Up against the Westminster Dog Show AND OJ tonight?  Yeah, maybe catch this one on a replay sometime.

We watched the same shows, I taped the housewives too. How could I even consider watching the housewives over dogs anyway?

 

I think I'm going to have to watch this episode of RHoBH a couple of times because there was so much packed into it. Now I know why Lisa Rinna had a meltdown over the 'why don't you have a piece of bread' comment made by Kim last season. Her comment came just before Kim alluded to Harry's cheating. (you can call my husband a womanizer bitch, but don't imply I'm anorexic!) They all believe Lisa has an eating disorder. I really don't care if she does or not because the majority of rich Beverly Hills women have an eating disorder or some other dysfunctional body self-image.

 

Yolanda is considering legally changing her name back to Yolanda Hadid, that condition could have been in the pre-nup with David.  Although Yolanda was like a pitbull with Lisa Rinna, she deserved it. Lisa likes to create trouble then fall into her safety net  "I feel so guilty being part of that conversation". It's a way of saying, "I'll pass on the rumor about Yolanda having Munchausen but I'll get away from the guilt of it by saying it came from someone else and I feel bad even mentioning it."  I get so annoyed every time Yolanda says Munchausen but pronounces it "housen-mousen' or, whatever it is". Come ON! Yolanda is 52 years old and comes from the Netherlands and the Dutch language and German are very similar.  It's hard to believe that in 52 years she never heard of Munchausen's Syndrome, it was named after a fictional German baron. When Yolanda started to read what she thought was the Wiki definition of Munchausen's, she was actually reading the definition of Munchausen's by Proxy, where children are involved. Oh well, close.....right?  Not right. But shut up Yolanda too. You Instagram photos of yourself in a cryo-chamber, with intravenous running into your arm, living in a bathrobe and appearing for all sake and purposes to be a total invalid. Then you post photos of yourself in B.C. having fun kayaking, hiking and having a of fun doing physical activities. WHICH IS IT??  MAKE UP YOUR DAMNED MIND!  Are you dying, or are you not? Make it clear so these Beverly Hills bitches can make a choice.

 

Now it's more clear to me how the relationship between Erika and Tom Girardi works. At first I thought they might have a relationship where she controls 'daddy warbucks' just a little bit, you know.... the old codger wrapped around the finger of the hot sexy woman. But watching how he put Erika in her place at dinner with Ken and Lisa. Oops, shut up Erika or sugar daddy will ground the private plane.

 

And Eileen, Hells girl, I want those boobs! She looked amazing in that black two-piece outfit she wore to Erika's gay-for-all backyard circus carnival thingy. When she was in the limo on her way to Erika's 'whatever it was' party, I wanted to leap into the TV and grab those puppies, they looked so damned good. I felt I had instantly turned lesbianish. LOL!

[Diane Mars]

When the Lisa's, Kyle and Ellen unites and agree...

@Yolacid : You'd better CoverYouAss ! ^_^

And, regarding Yolacid playing the "hunchmusen", etc...

... Bitch, please ! You told us your searched it on google and that your nurse read the definition to you.... And you apparently even found Münchausen by proxy ! (thanks for this huge lol, yolacid !)

Edited February 17, 2016 by Diane Mars

[imjagain]

Who won the poll on WWHL? One segment of smirking Yolanda was all I could endure.

I haven't watched this episode or WWHL yet, someone mentioned Yo won the poll (eye roll).

I can see as long as Gigi is the it girl, Bravo isn't letting Yolanda go away.... Ugh!

[ivygirl]

The little scene with Yolanda and David: "I packed your suitcase." "You didn't have to do that... Oh wait, you REALLY didn't have to because I already did it." "Tee hee! It's all I can do for you."

If I were in my fifties--heck, at my own age!--and someone repacked my suitcase unbidden... That would get super old, super quick.

[imjagain]

When the Lisa's, Kyle and Ellen unites and agree...

@Yolacid : You'd better CoverYouAss ! ^_^

And, regarding Yolacid playing the "hunchmusen", etc...Bitch, please ! You told us your searched it on google and that your nurse read the deninition to you.... And you apparently event found Münchausen by proxy ! (thanks for this huge lol, yolacid !)

Isn't Yolanda fluent in German?? She is such a fake.

[jnymph]

Yolanda.

Aha. A Dutch Shepard ! Makes perfect sense

( the breed was posted by LizDC upstream, wish I knew how to do multiple quotes on my phone)

[catalogrrr]

Another barbecue with no barbecue. How dreadful!

 

 

I think it was economical. Why pay for a bunch of food no one is going to eat? It'd just go to waste

 

But, there were go go boys in the pool.

 

With all the money they saved on the non-barbecue barbecue, they could pay for the go-go boys.

[njbchlover]

I noticed in the promo that Andy introduced her as "Yolanda Hadid".  Now I have not been divorced twice, but is it typical to discard the second husband's name and return to first husband's name?  Or does that only apply when first hubby's name is well-known?  If hubby #1 had the last name Finkelmeyer or Jones, would Yolanda now be calling herself Yolanda Finkelmeyer/Jones?

 

Only if her famous model daughters were called Gigi Finkelmeyer/Jones and Bella Finkelmeyer/Jones.  My take on this is that either she is really, really, really pissed at David Foster or she just wants the public (non-RHOBH watching) to be able to instantly connect her with Gigi and Bella.  I wouldn't be surprised if, once Yolanda is "back to 100%", she will start pushing for her own modeling career again, and will be wanting to do photo shoots with her daughters.

[zoeysmom]

I am still at a loss why the biggest offense on the planet is LVP saying Mohamed told her only Yolanda had Lyme Disease and the kids were fine.  I just don't get how that is so devastating to the children.  I look at it this way, back when I was in high school a couple of kids a year would get mononucleosis and be out the entire year.  Other kids would get it and be out for days or weeks.  When did Lyme Disease become incurable in all cases? I would have thought the response by Yolanda would have been to say, "there has been a  mistake, the non-Gigis, are still suffering from Lyme Disease."  Not they need an apology or their continuing illness is the only thing keeping Yolanda from taking her life.  Talk about pressure for the kids to stay sick-if we get well mom will take the long walk off the short pier.   I am hoping this comes up at the Reunion as an example of Yolanda's hyperbole and theatrics.   Forget Lisar eating habits how about the constant suicide promise? 

 

 

 

Even though it was amusing to see LVP flirt with Tom Girardi, and I loved him shutting Erika up, it gave me a gross feeling. Good thing he's never home because short, old, bald and rich guy has no chemistry with his own wife. I loved Kathryn's house- I admit it. Her hubby is cute until he opens his mouth and then he looks like a rat. Rinna is pretty easy to read, as someone above mentioned- she gives zero F's if you call her bipolar, or anorexic, but, mention anything about her marriage to Mr Hamlin, and she goes berserk- it cannot have been easy to be married to him all these years.

Since bi-polar is a pretty specific mental illness, I think it would be easy to declare having it or not having it.   Lisar has never really spoken of being in therapy. I am more fascinated with these women implying and stating Lisar has an eating disorder.  If she does what do they plan to do about it?  Is it something to beat her down with, I would think at 53 or whatever is her eating or lack of eating were truly life threatening would she not have had some pretty devastating, crippling physical complications.  Kathryn is pretty new to the game and she has not only said it, but writes about it in her blog.  Yolanda of course, our lady of an almond with a lemon cleanse, would probably be envious.

 

As far as Harry Hamlin, I think she is madly in love with Harry and fell for him, after all the hoopla.  She probably believes it is her duty to keep his reputation clean.  I think there have been years where she was the primary wage earner.

 

Did anyone catch who committed suicide or died of a drug overdose in Harry's family?  I know they are a family of addicts.  I wish Lisar would stop using the word addict, interchangeably with drug use.  I am thinking her sister wasn't addicted to seconal but used a drug not prescribed to her.

[Diane Mars]

Isn't Yolanda fluent in German?? She is such a fake.

Yup, she is :)

... And, additionnaly, Dutch is not like German, but the way to pronounce letters is quite the same (Münchausen, for instance, will sound really similar in both languages... ^_^ )

... With all the money they saved on the non-barbecue barbecue, they could pay for the go-go boys.

Be vegan ! Save dead meat, rent alive meat \o/

[ElDosEquis]

First did anyone think Tom and Lisa totally had a spark? I don't know if she really like being compared to an alligator though. Ken looked a little uncomfortable or jealous. And it was a great insight to see how tall is spoke to Erica twice on camera.

It's the power challenge. They both are alpha in their relationships and have never had to deal with someone as devious and cunning as the other. IF they were together, they'd be trying to burn each other down and not with a Bic lighter and some newspaper. It would be with gas and a flare gun....

[Diane Mars]

I am still at a loss why the biggest offense on the planet is LVP saying Mohamed told her only Yolanda had Lyme Disease and the kids were fine.  I just don't get how that is so devastating to the children...

It would have been so easily solved had she answered : "Ever thought about Mohammed not wanting to "out" our children health problems in order to preserve them ?"  that would have been settled in 10 seconds and LVP would have been considered as a huge insensitive bitch !

Yo, you still have a lot of things to learn... You're not as smart as you think you are. Really not.

Edited February 17, 2016 by Diane Mars

[njbchlover]

 

 

As much as they mention Kim's name on this show, I hope her ass is getting a check.

 

Would that be payment for "housewife by proxy" ??   ;-)

Edited February 17, 2016 by njbchlover

[Trooper York]

You know I am starting to think that Yolanda is not really a Real Housewives. She is a Bond villain. She should be stroking a white cat and suspending Lia Vanderpump over a tank full of sharks.

She is Lemonfinger.

[Brooke0707]

Half the time? When? Kim was brought up twice in this episode, and neither time by Kyle. I only remember her bringing up Kim in the first episode. Every other time she is responding to it.

I am torn as to how I feel about Lisar. Sometimes I really like her, and other times not so much (which is how I feel in real life about many of the people I deal with). At the lunch I think she was just wrong. She acts like the deal with Kim was the defining moment in her life. It just doesn't ring true. Hell, Kyle made less of her and Mauricio being accused of being users to gain clients, and even Brandi made less of Game Night. She just goes on and on about it, even while saying that she knows it makes Kyle uncomfortable. She just needs to stop with it.

Off the top of my head, with Faye, with Mauricio, with the women in the Hamptons. She just wants to control what is said and who she talks about it with.

Does Kyle even have a story this year other than Kim?

Edited February 17, 2016 by Brooke0707