TwistedandBored April 21, 2016 Share April 21, 2016 I don't know if this article from Den Of Geek was posted but I was reading it and this my favorite part. Nicole Beharie chose to leave Sleepy Hollow, but that was after the narrative sidelining of her once prominent character, which she presumably didn't choose. She also didn't choose the insulting, culturally tone-dead manner in which her character was written out. Exactly. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2172986
Neurochick April 21, 2016 Share April 21, 2016 Though I don't always agree with this woman, she does have a point here. http://muslimbushido.blogspot.com/2016/04/perpetually-surprised.html 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2173027
LydiaMoon1 April 21, 2016 Share April 21, 2016 (edited) That's exactly why I began divesting my feelings from SH after the end of S1. I stopped watching early in Season Two when the CFD confirmed what had already become obvious to me. I admit I still peeked in occasionally in S3, usually after reading this board and seeing posters talk about how the show had gotten so much better and was going ...you know....somewhere. I never saw it. The show was treading water, and I knew it was just a matter of time before what happened, happened. Edited April 21, 2016 by LydiaMoon1 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2173577
jhlipton April 21, 2016 Share April 21, 2016 Though I don't always agree with this woman, she does have a point here. http://muslimbushido.blogspot.com/2016/04/perpetually-surprised.html And an even better one here: http://muslimbushido.blogspot.com/2008/12/self-determination-part-1-my-dark.html 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2173680
C76 April 21, 2016 Share April 21, 2016 http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-critics-notebook-death-meets-diversity-20160420-column.html From the article: It's the stories that have to change, not just the window dressing. In life, women are not the minority, and when taken together, neither are people who are black, Asian, Latino, LGBT or any other definition that television still sees as "nontraditional." These characters should not be used as seasoning or garland to give a white man's story a little spice, a little color. They should be telling their stories too, in ways that don't call for the ultimate sacrifice quite so often. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2174448
cynic April 22, 2016 Share April 22, 2016 (edited) http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-sleepy-hollow-finale-was-so-terrible-im-still-upset-1772492018 "The Sleepy Hollow Finale Was So Terrible I'm Still Upset Two Weeks Later" Me too, dude, me too. Edited April 22, 2016 by cynic 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2178111
catrox14 April 22, 2016 Share April 22, 2016 ^^^^ Same :( 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2178146
C76 April 22, 2016 Share April 22, 2016 I love that io9 article. I'm also glad to see we're not the only ones who are still pissed off. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2178249
Cyranetta April 22, 2016 Share April 22, 2016 The Happily Ever After blog on USAToday.com also weighed in: http://happyeverafter.usatoday.com/2016/04/21/the-writers-box-sleepy-hollow-the-blacklist-arrow-castle-put-targets-on-female-characters-backs/ 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2178408
C76 April 24, 2016 Share April 24, 2016 This isn't new. I was just feeling sentimental: http://m.emmys.com/news/features/their-dreams-sleepy-hollow Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2182601
jhlipton April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 This isn't new. I was just feeling sentimental: http://m.emmys.com/news/features/their-dreams-sleepy-hollow This got me "in the feels" as the kids say: We wanted someone you'd buy as a policewoman, but also as someone who had this tragic past and [carried that] emotional weight. Nicole performed Abbie's entire back story at the read, and we were hooked. After she finished, we forgot to turn off the camera. And you threw that away like yesterday's garbage. We caught lightning in a bottle," Goffman says. "Nicole and Tom are phenomenal individually, and together they're unstoppable. They're game for anything. In a world that is so fantastical, we can dream as big as we want and know that somehow they will help find an emotional truth and a reality to the scene. And you forgot that just a few months later. So where does Sleepy Hollow go next? While the show's second season same-day ratings are down from the its historic first season debut, the series remains strong in time-shifted viewing across all multiple platforms. Threw that away, too, didn't you? We're really trying to twist things up - they're going to be shocked. I think "disgusted" is the word you're looking for. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2183248
janeta April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 Nicole got a new gig quick. http://deadline.com/2016/04/sleepy-hollow-nicole-beharie-finds-new-life-in-jacobs-ladder-1201739928/ Ooh ooh good! I like Ealy too. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2183512
jhlipton April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 Fan video / love letter to Nicole. Get the tissues ready. http://our-destinies-entwined.tumblr.com/post/143275492463/nicolebehariedaily-the-nicole-beharie-video 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2183611
netlyon2 April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 ^^^^ I haven't watched the video yet (it's totally going to make me cry), but here's Nicole's response: https://twitter.com/nikkibeharie/status/724105272717905920 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2183642
C76 April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 Fan video / love letter to Nicole. Get the tissues ready. http://our-destinies-entwined.tumblr.com/post/143275492463/nicolebehariedaily-the-nicole-beharie-video I started to watch, and I know I'm going to cry. Since it's late, I will try to finish it in the morning. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2183923
bobbysgurl April 25, 2016 Share April 25, 2016 Fan video / love letter to Nicole. Get the tissues ready. http://our-destinies-entwined.tumblr.com/post/143275492463/nicolebehariedaily-the-nicole-beharie-video I did cry. I thought I was done with grieving for Abbie, but I guess I'm still not there yet. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2185364
vanarnd1 May 2, 2016 Share May 2, 2016 Thanks for posting that video. It is bittersweet to an extent, but it is nice seeing how many viewers really enjoyed and took to heart the character of Abbie Mills. There will be more people following Nicole to her next projects than watching next season of Sleepy Hollow IMO 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2203388
slayer2 May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 (edited) Has anyone posted about the new Nikki Beharie movie on Canadian Netflix yet? Last Day Without You or something like that. Anyway in it she gets to be the sexy, amazing woman we know her to be AND sing! Didn't realize she was so tiny and had that perfect hourglass figure going on since Sleepy Hollow always hid her charms with frumpy, bland clothing. Edited May 13, 2016 by slayer2 Not Nikki Negative, thanks autocorrect *eyeroll Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2234185
LeeLeePanda May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 Abbie Mills was The American Dream I feel like Princess took all of my thoughts on why Abbie's death hit so hard and wrote a damn fine article on it. The stupid show ended more than a month ago and I'm still hurting. It's literally affecting my enjoyment of other TV shows. I feel like I'm going crazy. Does anyone else still feel this way? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2234750
Julia May 12, 2016 Share May 12, 2016 4 hours ago, slayer2 said: Has anyone posted about the new Nikki Negative movie on Canadian Netflix yet? Last Day Without You or something like that. Anyway in it she gets to be the sexy, amazing woman we know her to be AND sing! Didn't realize she was so tiny and had that perfect hourglass figure going on since Sleepy Hollow always hid her charms with frumpy, bland clothing. Oh, no, she's absolutely a pocket venus. She must work really hard at it, too, because at her size the line between curvy and zaftig can be pretty fine (my kid's godmother tells me). 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2235190
benteen May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 I'm glad that Castle was canceled (with everything that has happened to that show) and the show I hope even more that gets canceled is Sleepy Hollow. At least ABC might have been able to get something out of Castle. What could Fox possibly expect to get out of SH at this point other than a further reduction of their already small audience. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2236329
Watermelon May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 I guess I'm still the only weirdo hoping against hope they hire a skywriter to write "WE FUCKED UP" for Nicole for the next two or three months, and convince her to come back as some lookalike Mills. They need to just head to some great fan-fiction sites, find out the different logical ways to play this, and introduce us to BAMF NewMills as played by Nicole Beharie on the mid season finale. Then put us on the road to another Big Bad and then Cancel this shit, because the writers still untrustworthy as hell. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2236339
CocoaGoddess May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 I want this horrible show canceled and I want all of the showrunners to have a scarlet L (losers) branded on their worthless resumes. I'm still pissed and I'm glad the Twitter hate is stronger than ever. Sleepy writers going on some half ass campaign to get the show saved with the #renewsleepyhollow hashtag. How dare they. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2236348
LeeLeePanda May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Watermelon said: I guess I'm still the only weirdo hoping against hope they hire a skywriter to write "WE FUCKED UP" for Nicole for the next two or three months, and convince her to come back as some lookalike Mills. They need to just head to some great fan-fiction sites, find out the different logical ways to play this, and introduce us to BAMF NewMills as played by Nicole Beharie on the mid season finale. Then put us on the road to another Big Bad and then Cancel this shit, because the writers still untrustworthy as hell. Oh, I waver between wanting the show to be renewed so they can fix this mess, and hoping it gets canceled. I want them to get on their hands and knees and beg Nicole to come back. Make it all a dream, find a loophole, just get her back. I just don't want it to end the way it did. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2236551
Julia May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 I guess I've come to the conclusion that the folks who make this show haven't so much failed to make a show I want to watch as they're genuinely not interested in making a show I want to watch. Which, of course, is their prerogative. Their problem is that they failed to make a show for the viewers they did want. I don't see much of an argument for giving them another bite of the apple with a weaker cast. It's a shame, though. If someone who knew how to catch all that season 1 lightning in a bottle made Ichabod Crane: Cranky Supernatural Beltway Bureaucrat, I'd have been all over it. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2237038
roseslg May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 21 hours ago, slayer2 said: Has anyone posted about the new Nikki Beharie movie on Canadian Netflix yet? Last Day Without You or something like that. Anyway in it she gets to be the sexy, amazing woman we know her to be AND sing! Didn't realize she was so tiny and had that perfect hourglass figure going on since Sleepy Hollow always hid her charms with frumpy, bland clothing. That movie was awful! Seriously. I watched it for her though. Still. Awful. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2237538
greenbean May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 I'm just catching up with events. I checked out during S2, the Crane family drama was a huge bore to me. Sad to see what was genuinely a fun and likeable show go to shit. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2237834
mtlchick May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 IT LIVES! http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/05/13/sleepy-hollow-renewed-for-season-4-at-fox/ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2238374
slayer2 May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 4 hours ago, roseslg said: That movie was awful! Seriously. I watched it for her though. Still. Awful. I liked it. It's a sad day when Peggy Carter gets cancelled but Sleepy Hollow is renewed without its lead actress, blasted networks. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2238434
benteen May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 (edited) 26 minutes ago, mtlchick said: IT LIVES! http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2016/05/13/sleepy-hollow-renewed-for-season-4-at-fox/ What a disgrace this is. I guess Fox is in such bad shape that they desperately need the 4/10s of 1 percentage point that Sleepy Hollow is now going to bring in in the ratings without it's main co-star. I know I won't be watching this show anymore. But if Fox wants garbage, they can have garbage. Edited May 13, 2016 by benteen 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2238472
Browncoat May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 I like the line in the linked article that says, "it will focus on the search for truth about the lives of Witnesses." Um, shouldn't that be "life of Witness" since we're down to one? Either way, I'm done with this show. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2238483
Iamsweetdee May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 1 minute ago, benteen said: But if Fox wants garbage, they can have garbage. See, the problem is they think that NOW, since they are no longer weighed down with the dark female, that the garbage has been taken out.They are now free and clear to have the white dude leading the show like TV is meant to be, by golly! #MakeFoxGreatAgain [//sarcasm off] 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2238494
bobbysgurl May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 I just read this on a site I'm not familiar with, so I high-tailed it straight here to find out if the renewal is indeed true. Well, bust my buttons and call me stooopid. Never in a million years did I think that FOX would be that damn gullible to think that Crane can succeed as a character without Abbie Mills character as played by NB. To be honest, without Abbie, Crane is just a caricature. Well, I will not participate in their lunacy. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2238554
benteen May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 22 minutes ago, Browncoat said: I like the line in the linked article that says, "it will focus on the search for truth about the lives of Witnesses." Um, shouldn't that be "life of Witness" since we're down to one? Either way, I'm done with this show. Apparently the life of the Witness is to guide Ichabod Crane and then just randomly die, their mission apparently done. I think both Ichabod and Abbie are great characters but I wouldn't want to see an Ichabod-only show or an Abbie-only show. The strength of the show was always the two of them together, which is something clearly the various producers of the show and Fox never believed. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2238584
Artsda May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 LOL This is kind of funny, they cancel all they did yesterday but Fox keeps this? 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2238637
catrox14 May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 Sigh. This is crazy. I love Ichabod but without Abbie...it's pointless 1 hour ago, Browncoat said: I like the line in the linked article that says, "it will focus on the search for truth about the lives of Witnesses." Um, shouldn't that be "life of Witness" since we're down to one? Either way, I'm done with this show. Sounds like they just expanded their world to be about a whole group of Witnesses. These people are stupid. I hope Tom just gets his bank and walks 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2238746
Trini May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 Oh boy. I was thinking that if it was cancelled it would have been announced with the rest yesterday. Fox has balls, man. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2238781
CocoaGoddess May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 Fox is doing this to let the fandom know who's the boss and who's in charge. Of all of the shows they decide to renew ... 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2238810
LeeLeePanda May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 The only reason it got renewed is because they need to fill the spot American Idol left. The show is literally just filler now. Theyll probably get ok ratings for the first episode of the season from people who want to see how much of a train wreck it is, and then just drop off. What a waste. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2238853
katycat74 May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 I would rather have them save Grandfathered and The Grinder and put them in SH's spot. Surely they weren't doing any worse! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2238910
phoenics May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 Nicole Beharie is in talks to potentially play T'Challa's love interest (or sister) in the upcoming Black Panther movie. If she does, she's never coming back to SH - why would she? On the twitter tvline feed there is a rabid fan there who claims Nicole brought the show down. Um, in WHO'S world? I wanted to drag her all over twitter. I hope someone does. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2238939
Mecca May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 I'm not sure if this should go here or the unpopular opinions thread, but I'm excited to see what direction the show will go in now. I'll definitely be tuning in. I watched the first two seasons and then completely skipped the third. I just personally never really warmed to the Abbie character (also, the writing wasn't that great either) so I'm more than happy to see what the show can do without her in it. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2239044
DearEvette May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 Meh. All they've done is delayed cancellation for a few more months. Still dead to me. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2239107
vanarnd1 May 13, 2016 Share May 13, 2016 I am glad that Tom will get a steady paycheck out of this as he has always been supportive of Nicole. That is about the only nice thing I can say about the show getting renewed though...... 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2239261
Happy Harpy May 14, 2016 Share May 14, 2016 (edited) 17 minutes ago, vanarnd1 said: I am glad that Tom will get a steady paycheck out of this as he has always been supportive of Nicole. That is about the only nice thing I can say about the show getting renewed though...... He, and the cast and crew who still have a job. But it won't be thanks to me if they keep it next year, since for me this show has no sense and makes no sense without Abbie and the only thing I'm curious re:SH now is how low the ratings will sink. Edited May 14, 2016 by Happy Harpy 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2239309
thuganomics85 May 14, 2016 Share May 14, 2016 Well, this should be interesting. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but this just seems to be a bad idea all around. I think FOX is underestimating how pissed off viewers were for killing Abbie, and I see it going even lower next season. They must really be getting good tax breaks or something, because I don't see what they have to gain from this. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2239353
jhlipton May 14, 2016 Share May 14, 2016 Leigh Dana Jackson gave approval to Eric Heisserer's "Not our fault -- the stars and execs MADE us do it!" piece of bull-shit. Of course, no one is buying it, because it stinks. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2239439
HalcyonDays May 14, 2016 Share May 14, 2016 Sleepy Hollow Renewed for Season 4 Golf clap....? Gold clap!!! (Good job, FOX!!) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2239569
cynic May 14, 2016 Share May 14, 2016 Petty it may be, but I kinda hope the show crashes and burns. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2239570
HalcyonDays May 14, 2016 Share May 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, cynic said: Petty it may be, but I kinda hope the show crashes and burns. Well, they've got 13-18 more episodes to attempt to do so... Better link to the announcement. The SpoilerTV one had no information at all about the 4th season. TVLine -Sleepy Hollow Renewed for Season 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/3842-sleepy-hollow-in-the-media/page/65/#findComment-2239586
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