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54 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

AYFKMWTS? Seriously?

 

At least she'll have to live in the miasma of lost hope and fetid desire - (smells like ButtBiscuit's nostrils before a deep cleaning and Nick's hammertoes), that damp and fungal-ridden den of despair masquerading as sexy times her mother and Beely have left in their wake.

It's bound to make her even more adenoidal than before, so that's a plus.

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O.M.F.G. HK is back??!!! Why?? Like this show doesn't torture us enough??? Just thinking of her with nuKyle gets my gag reflex going.  Going to be a lot (more) FF in my future.

Summer??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

NO!

Just  NO!!!!!!!!

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I wonder if she’s coming back to put her seal of approval on Philly’s love affair for the ages. Summer’s blessing wiould certainly win me over, I said on the twelfth of never. She’ll probably ask Billy to adopt her, so Buttbiscuit can have the daughter Jack wanted too. 

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26 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

I wonder if she’s coming back to put her seal of approval on Philly’s love affair for the ages. Summer’s blessing wiould certainly win me over, I said on the twelfth of never. She’ll probably ask Billy to adopt her, so Buttbiscuit can have the daughter Jack wanted too. 

I know it won't happen, but I'm hoping she comes back, sees Der ButtBiscuit and just has to have him.  After all, her taste in men IS that bad.  And a Dummer plus, he could be folded up and fitted inside the Abbott cabin armoire and standing casket just like that dead husband of hers who I've forgotten about.

I'd love to see Phyllis lose her flying monkey boyfriend to her flying monkey daughter.

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It seems like she can't really get work that isn't provided by CBS. I'm thinking they're still paying her to keep her mouth shut about something. Meanwhile, at least one of her younger sisters seems to pop up in a big movie every year. Hmm.

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Is Brenda Nelson a pen name for Neil Winters? That was a lot of cliche that said very little in response to Doug’s comment. Things change, we deal with it, live in the now. Thanks, Socrates. That fluff has made me learn to love Mal Young’s writing. Not. 

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Two soap sites are citing a third site with the major rumor that Mishael Morgan (Hilary) is either leaving Y&R or is already gone. Contract negotiation issues, allegedly. I don't see this as good news. She's pretty much been holding the Winters et al storyline together and IMO Mal doesn't know how to write for them.

The origin of the rumor seems to be here:

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I very dimly seem to recall Dough D. (this is a typo but I kind of like it) tweeting how wonderful he thought MY is/was when Sally was forced out.  That said, good for him for speaking out now.  For the person who pointed out the ratings have been awful for years, please remember what damage  JFP and CP wrought before wrecking ball Young was given full control.

If this is true, what a shame to lose MMorgan.  It should have been a snap to write for one of the most beautiful actresses on TV.

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Doug claims he was hacked. Hmm. It did seem odd him saying he’s watched since 1986. 

ETA: the ratings have never been this bad. 

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4 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Two soap sites are citing a third site with the major rumor that Mishael Morgan (Hilary) is either leaving Y&R or is already gone. Contract negotiation issues, allegedly. I don't see this as good news. She's pretty much been holding the Winters et al storyline together and IMO Mal doesn't know how to write for them.

The origin of the rumor seems to be here:

Mal floves MM. I’d be shocked if she left but the ratings are in the toilet and when that’s the case TPTB tend to overrule the EP quite a bit.

 

1 minute ago, granderobino said:

Here's hoping that Doug's account was actually hacked. Grammatically, that tweet is a mess.

Yeah it was weird. Maybe it was his kid who hacked in. Lol

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Well, I hope Mishael isn't leaving. I was listening to the DC podcast earlier today, and they were talking about how MM should be used as the new young Jill character and not stuck within the orbit of just the Winters-Ashby clan. MM has been looking a bit like she may be pregnant IRL, though, so could it be that she just plans to leave since the odious plot used when she was pregnant earlier.

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Well it seems she’s out then. CK was announced out and negotiated to stay (not sure how) but in this case, Twitter stans notwithstanding,  MM does not have the power to play hardball and win. The ratings are atrocious and her character has been front and centre. I don’t blame her for that (I quite like the actress) but the writing is so fucking awful no characters are currently likeable (watchable even) imo.

Without Hilary what hope does Devon have? Maybe Hevon will leave GC.

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Seemed to me TPTB loved MM. The Hilary character has never been backburnered and even when MM was out on maternity leave they kept Hilary in a storyline (repugnant though it was). Assuming she actually is pregnant it looks like they were willing to write it into the show. Maybe disagreement was just about salary. Didn't it come out a while back that the suits were making everyone, even the vets, take pay cuts?

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CK was announced out and negotiated to stay

Not before she haplessly went on an audition for what turned out to be her own role. Oy.

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21 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Seemed to me TPTB loved MM. The Hilary character has never been backburnered and even when MM was out on maternity leave they kept Hilary in a storyline (repugnant though it was). Assuming she actually is pregnant it looks like they were willing to write it into the show. Maybe disagreement was just about salary. Didn't it come out a while back that the suits were making everyone, even the vets, take pay cuts?

Not before she haplessly went on an audition for what turned out to be her own role. Oy.

Oh yeah, lol. I forgot about that audition! 

What I meant by TPTB overruling Mal is he  may be willing to pay big bucks for her but the higher ups look at the ratings and say nah. With the horrific numbers he’s pulling he doesn’t have a leg to stand on. This show plays hard ball with contracts as far as I can tell. I mean it was a decade ago when soaps were in way better shape that show was ready to let EB walk over $$.

They let BM go over contract issues.

She can be recast. Or replaced with a new AA character who hasn’t slept with Devon AND Neil. ;)

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10 minutes ago, spinxella said:

Oh, please oh please oh please oh please! I don't hate her as much as I hated Sage, but how on earth can she get SO MUCH screen time? It's incredible how her storylines would wrap up (she's forgiven for framing Cane for sleeping w/ her, for targeting Neil, for sleeping with Devon while her husband's gone blind, for shamelessly flirting with Jack, for seducing/blackmailing a district attorney, bribing a lab tech; I could go on, but you get me). These aren't Phyllis-level actions - she's like a bug that just zips around biting idiots who are dumb enough to stand still in front of her.

"As first reported by TVSource, contract negotiations with the acting phenom and TPTB broke down, resulting in her leaving the number one daytime drama."
Sounds like she got a little too big for her britches.

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8 hours ago, miamama said:

Doug claims he was hacked. Hmm. It did seem odd him saying he’s watched since 1986. 

 

He's been on the show since 1978. I know actors say they don't like to watch themselves, but that seemed strange.

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Sounds like she got a little too big for her britches.

Or OTOH, like CBS/Y&R is either no longer willing to pay her what she's worth or didn't want to give concessions like letting her have time off to do other work. Assuming she wants to keep acting and not become a SAHM, I think she'll do fine and will have plenty of other options. For example, people like Shonda Rhimes and Issa Rae have scored big production deals on cable and will likely be looking for actors of color with proven track records like MM.

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Or replaced with a new AA character who hasn’t slept with Devon AND Neil. ;)

But who eventually will because the show is seeminly too cheap to cast multiple romantic interests who don't have to be shared between the only adult Black men on this show. (And on a related note, I'm still amazed Ravi wasn't passed down to Abby. Looks like Arturo will be the "lucky" one.)

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One of the reports, SOC or SID, said she opted to walk rather than counter offer. I wonder if she wanted out but also wanted to test and see if they’d give her the stars and moon. I mean she’s early 30s, has a solid reel from show now and can try for a prime time career. This is the time to do it. Her age I mean. She can leave having made a statement that she’s worth more than show is offering. 

2 hours ago, In2You said:

Mishael was a soap newcomer so she wasn't making the type of money the likes of Jason Thompson is making and his Billy has been a flop.

How long has he been on? Has he renegotiated yet? I would think he’d be forced to take a cut because I cannot imagine what his dear friend JFP gave him. Gah.

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Yes, I also wonder if she just felt (like MCE, who I don't like as a character or an actor) NOW is the time to try out for films and do prime time pilots etc. Sometimes you strike gold like Justin Hartley--who is not any better an actor than Mishael. If TPTB were willing to give her a REALLY sweet offer? Sure, she'd take it and start treating the gig as a long term career (I feel like she could have been the new Jill-type character in Genoa City and had years of great soap) but if CBS was going to lowball her may as well give it a try elsewhere. She was kind of at that crossroads.

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12 hours ago, miamama said:

One of the reports, SOC or SID, said she opted to walk rather than counter offer. I wonder if she wanted out but also wanted to test and see if they’d give her the stars and moon. I mean she’s early 30s, has a solid reel from show now and can try for a prime time career. This is the time to do it. Her age I mean. She can leave having made a statement that she’s worth more than show is offering. 

How long has he been on? Has he renegotiated yet? I would think he’d be forced to take a cut because I cannot imagine what his dear friend JFP gave him. Gah.

I think he's been on the show about eighteen months.

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1 hour ago, Toomuchsoap said:
13 hours ago, miamama said:

One of the reports, SOC or SID, said she opted to walk rather than counter offer. I wonder if she wanted out but also wanted to test and see if they’d give her the stars and moon. I mean she’s early 30s, has a solid reel from show now and can try for a prime time career. This is the time to do it. Her age I mean. She can leave having made a statement that she’s worth more than show is offering. 

How long has he been on? Has he renegotiated yet? I would think he’d be forced to take a cut because I cannot imagine what his dear friend JFP gave him. Gah.

I think he's been on the show about eighteen months.

Eighteen months too long!!!

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1 hour ago, dbklmt said:

Eighteen months too long!!!

Jason Thompson has only been on for 18 months??!!?  It FEELS like 5 years with the amount of storyline suckage and propping ButtBiscuit has vacumned up like a rabid aardvark.  I can't believe it.

He must exude something in person that doesn NOT translate on screen.  And is resistant to antibiotics or a good colon cleansing.

???Only 18 months??!?

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18 minutes ago, boes said:

Jason Thompson has only been on for 18 months??!!?  It FEELS like 5 years with the amount of storyline suckage and propping ButtBiscuit has vacumned up like a rabid aardvark.  I can't believe it.

He must exude something in person that doesn NOT translate on screen.  And is resistant to antibiotics or a good colon cleansing.

???Only 18 months??!?

Just looked it up. He started Jan. 2016. So he's been on almost 2.5 years. I'm guessing he signed a 3-year contract. 

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This makes me lol because Victoria Rowell was all BOYCOTT P&G products!!!!! Punish Y&R for what they are doing to Mishael!!!”

And MM is like “love Sony/CBS thanks! Bye.”

The lesson? Nothing is ever gained from incinerating bridges.

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6 hours ago, miamama said:

This makes me lol because Victoria Rowell was all BOYCOTT P&G products!!!!! Punish Y&R for what they are doing to Mishael!!!”

And MM is like “love Sony/CBS thanks! Bye.”

The lesson? Nothing is ever gained from incinerating bridges.

I love how she referred to her character as Hil, which I always did, but I don't think anyone on screen has done.

She will do well, she is making the right move.

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