Reel to Real: Backstage, Twitter, & All Media Dram-ugh

[valleycliffe]

LOL  don't know why i'm laughing so hard but i am....

[spinxella]

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 28, 2018 by spinxella

[Joimiaroxeu]

I was wondering when this was going to come out. I saw this as a blind item in several places a few months back. Apparently the battle between Viacom and CBS is getting brutal.

If Moonves ends up leaving dare we hope there'll be a big enough snowball effect to help Y&R?

Edited July 27, 2018 by Joimiaroxeu

[valleycliffe]

LOLOL i won't be watching but here ya go

[Cupid Stunt]

20 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I was wondering when this was going to come out. I saw this as a blind item in several places a few months back. Apparently the battle between Viacom and CBS is getting brutal.

 

The National Amusement's (owner of CBS and Viacom) internal strife and warfare has been going on for nearly four years. Once Les Moonves used CBS stockholders to upend Sumner Redstone's intention to merge CBS and Viacom, the Redstone's (both sides of the family fight) have been blanketing the landscape with money and lawyers to undermine the NDAs left in Moonves wake.

Like Harvey Weinstein, and hundreds of millions of Masters of the Universe before and after him, Les Moonves' behavior was company town lore on the East and Left Coasts.

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If Moonves ends up leaving dare we hope there'll be a big enough snowball effect to help Y&R?

Don't waste your time.

Sony has fulfilled their advertising obligations to CBS for the last eight quarters and next quarter's returns are up, regardless of the stock price fluctuations -- There were big stock purchases made at the end of Friday's business day (Hello, Shari Redstone!).

Moonves may fall, but cutting off the head doesn't kill the massive bureaucracy that manages the multiple divisions at CBS. There would have to be wholesale slaughter at 52nd Street and Sixth Avenue (CBS corporate) for it to touch Y&R, and you still wouldn't see the results for months.

The mills of bureaucracy, and the bureaucrats that turn them, move very slowly for a reason. No one is interested in undercutting their paycheck and job in favor of the greater good, no matter what that greater good might be. Survival in a time of war is the only priority. 

3 hours ago, valleycliffe said:

LOLOL i won't be watching but here ya go

Goddess Kali smite them!

Edited July 28, 2018 by Cupid Stunt

[babyhouseman]

6 hours ago, valleycliffe said:

LOLOL i won't be watching but here ya go

I suppose they'll only allow lovey dovey questions. Not "Do you two know how irritating you are?"

[peacheslatour]

She looks like she's about to unhinge her jaw and swallow the photographer.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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She looks like she's about to unhinge her jaw and swallow the photographer.

Why yes, that's exactly what happened:

[pearlite]

13 hours ago, peacheslatour said:

She looks like she's about to unhinge her jaw and swallow the photographer.

And there was this really cute selfie she posted on Instagram...

Edited July 29, 2018 by pearlite

[boes]

1 hour ago, pearlite said:

And there was this really cute selfie she posted on Instagram...

HAHAHA!  I mean, who wouldn't love Phyllis?  She's got it and ButtBiscuit wants it.

[Toomuchsoap]

Did anyone else see Matt Hanvey's tweet from Friday afternoon IIRC about Jordi Vilasuso?  He states that JV is being brought on as Sharon's love interest "because Josh doesn't want to work with Sharon." Not a surprise. Morrow has wanted to be paired with  the newest toy in the box for about two decades on now. I think it's a competition between whichever male is most popularly paired with whatever squeeze he's got going on at any given time. Much like EB, JM wants to be the top dog. He wanted MCE because she was paired with first MM and later JH - both popular with fans. Every time he's paired back with SC, he wants to bail on to the current Twitter fave's smoosh couple's female lead.

[boes]

37 minutes ago, Toomuchsoap said:

Did anyone else see Matt Hanvey's tweet from Friday afternoon IIRC about Jordi Vilasuso?  He states that JV is being brought on as Sharon's love interest "because Josh doesn't want to work with Sharon." Not a surprise. Morrow has wanted to be paired with  the newest toy in the box for about two decades on now. I think it's a competition between whichever male is most popularly paired with whatever squeeze he's got going on at any given time. Much like EB, JM wants to be the top dog. He wanted MCE because she was paired with first MM and later JH - both popular with fans. Every time he's paired back with SC, he wants to bail on to the current Twitter fave's smoosh couple's female lead.

Well ain't that a barrel of FOAD.  So Sharon Case isn't good enough for him? 

That Top Dog needs to be neutered.  The only time he's got a fan base at all is when he's with Sharon but he's too damn dumb to understand that.

[peacheslatour]

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Jordi Vilasuso?

Fine by me. He's frikkin gorgeous.

[valleycliffe]

1 minute ago, boes said:

Well ain't that a barrel of FOAD.  So Sharon Case isn't good enough for him? 

That Top Dog needs to be neutered.  The only time he's got a fan base at all is when he's with Sharon but he's too damn dumb to understand that.

jm doesn't know that he is a weak actor and needs a strong actress (sc) to carry his scenes...he doesn't like to have to work at them, he likes to have fun and play word games, and not rehearse, and simulate sex.  i can see why he would prefer gt to sc.

might be an unpopular opinion, but i do not classify gt as a strong actress...or even ck as one.   mim was...

[boes]

6 minutes ago, valleycliffe said:

jm doesn't know that he is a weak actor and needs a strong actress (sc) to carry his scenes...he doesn't like to have to work at them, he likes to have fun and play word games, and not rehearse, and simulate sex.  i can see why he would prefer gt to sc.

SO true.  You can always see the wheels turning with Josh, and hear them, they're so seldom used.   

Jordi Vilasuso is a much better actor.

[peacheslatour]

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You can always see the wheels turning with Josh, and hear them, they're so seldom used. 

Like a hamster on a creaky wheel.

[rcc]

I don't think SC is a strong actress and certainly JM is not a strong actor. I don't like either one solo or together. Jordi always looks scruffy to me. Either he grows a beard or shaves better would be nice. We shall see how he does with SC.

[crowsworks]

6 hours ago, boes said:

SO true.  You can always see the wheels turning with Josh, and hear them, they're so seldom used.   

Jordi Vilasuso is a much better actor.

i know writing is shit but wouldn't it be great if they became the show's super couple.

[crowsworks]

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p=Jordi+Vilasuso%3F&fr=yhs-iry-fullyhosted_003&hspart=iry&hsimp=yhs-fullyhosted_003&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.cbs.soapsindepth.com%2Fuploads%2Fposts%2Fimage%2F98915%2Fjordi-vilasuso-getty.jpg#id=0&iurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.cbs.soapsindepth.com%2Fuploads%2Fposts%2Fimage%2F108135%2Fjordi-vilasuso-tee-jpi.jpg&action=click

Dayam! of course the brain trust a Y&R.... (They HAD Jessie and Angie, Patch, Tad Martin, Genie Francis....no end to the great actors they pissed away with shitty writing.) ...will make him a Nazi. gang rapist who doesn't return library books and lures Faith into kiddie porn.

personally I'd make him Adam returned after major Plastic surgery.  The REAL dark horse in the race. He's back and he's pissed.

[valleycliffe]

17 hours ago, boes said:

SO true.  You can always see the wheels turning with Josh, and hear them, they're so seldom used.   

Jordi Vilasuso is a much better actor.

i think jm likes being with whomever is the "teachers pet" at the moment.  seems it's gt at the moment.

with that being said, i really can't see any chemistry between a pit viper and a banana..

[Toomuchsoap]

Valley, as I stated in my post (and I agree with you), JM always, always wants the female from the show's current favorite smoosh couple. I'm actually surprised he didn't go for MiM, frankly. (And who's to say he didn't at some point?) I think he believes he's supposed to be the resident super stud and the fact he supposedly doesn't want to be paired with SC is not because he doesn't enjoy working with her, it's because he feels being top stud in the barn is hindered by folks being reminded that he's a middle-aged, multi-married guy with several kids (two of which are in their middle twenties), and Sharon is a visible reminder of that, because it's a touchstone back to the early '90s when their characters first appeared on the show.  Whatever.

Edited July 30, 2018 by Toomuchsoap

[MotherInLaw]

Muhney finally answered the question...”what happened”, on Twitter.

 

Exec Producer wanted to “take the show in another direction” and that was that. But almost all the EP’s ideas, decisions, and choices for the show have been slowly reversed after that EP was replaced. No reason why “the Adam decision” couldn’t be reversed, either. We’ll see.

[Joimiaroxeu]

He's been practically blackballed in Hollywood and one of TPTB used TMZ to put out a pretty vicious story about it. I think whatever happened must've been a bit more than taking the show in a different direction. He's not a bad actor, has leading man looks, and plenty of actors have big egos. You'd think some show would've picked him up by now. I'm still thinking something pretty serious happened but maybe not the story that was put out there.

Edited August 2, 2018 by Joimiaroxeu

[crowsworks]

4 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

He's been practically blackballed in Hollywood and one of TPTB used TMZ to put out a pretty vicious story about it. I think whatever happened must've been a bit more than taking the show in a different direction. He's not a bad actor, has leading man looks, and plenty of actors have big egos. You'd think some show would've picked him up by now. I'm still thinking something pretty serious happened but maybe not the story that was put out there.

I liked that he pushed his fans to like JH. I think they are friends.  He should get into writing - he's sharp and funny.

[bannana]

MM has recently said/tweeted that what was reported never happened, and HHK has not refuted that.  But, yes, there is a reason that he won't be back on Show.  

[Artsda]

On 7/29/2018 at 3:04 PM, valleycliffe said:

m doesn't know that he is a weak actor and needs a strong actress (sc) to carry his scenes..

Yes, MS and SC carried both those popular pairings that worked with Nick. Every pairing JM has wanted and loved (Chelsea, Sage etc) all failed. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

Mishael Morgan is playing spokesmodel on The Price is Right today. I'm thinking it must be a rerun or one that was taped a while ago because she looks really, really thin like she did eariler this year.

[Capricasix]

I saw that, Joimiaroxeu. I think it’s a rerun, because Daniel Goddard posted a picture of himself and MM on his Instagram yesterday, and she had a wee baby bump already. 

(I was browsing the Brooklyn Nine-Nine forum yesterday, and saw a post of yours in there! I wanted to wave ?)

Edited August 2, 2018 by Capricasix

[Toomuchsoap]

15 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

one of TPTB used TMZ to put out a pretty vicious story about it.

That would be Angelica McDaniel, whose husband worked (maybe still does for all I know now) for TMZ. Everything that was ever said about what supposedly "happened" was online and it didn't originate with from any source connected with Sony, the show or CBS (well, officially since a lot of fuel was added to the internet fire by AMC allowing hubs to spike those rumors). There were other things rumored or appearing in trade pubs indicated that what happened was that MM got a little too big for his britches. EB hates MM and will go out of his way at any prompting by an interviewer (and most often without any prompting) to attack MM. These outbursts of vitriol are very much like a certain orange-headed guy on Twitter. EB and MM argued about rehearsing. MM was FOR it and EB apparently loathed to rehearse. I mean why bother to memorize one's lines or do a run-through of blocking a scene with a director when one can just write his lines on his wrist cuff or have his assistant put them in a memo note on his smartphone, eth? Basically, I heard from someone who was backstage on a visitor pass not long before MM was sacked that they'd had a huuuuuge argument onset during a scene that involved one of the twins that played Connor at that time. The crew were shaken by how combative (verbally) it was. That was in the late summer of that year, and I think that incident and EB's hatred of MM (jealous much?) precipitated his being fired. (And let me just add this, JM better not get too comfortable in his cocky Black Horse badass "I'm big enough to outdo my old man" business, or he'll find himself looking for work too). 

Edited August 2, 2018 by Toomuchsoap

[Joimiaroxeu]

But how does EB have enough clout in Hollywood to keep MM from working years later? Seems to me if EB had that kind of power he wouldn't have been relegated to a soap opera for the last 30 years. (Yeah, he did Titanic. Yawn.) There are other broadcast networks besides CBS. There's also cable, Amazon, Netflix, even YouTube has gotten into the act. It doesn't make sense to me that he's barely gotten any work unless there's something really bad not being spoken of. Plenty of actors are arrogant and cocky. It just doesn't seem like enough for someone to have been virtually blackballed if the whole thing is based on a false or overblown story. ?

[JasonCC]

The Hunter King/TMZ story also had a little boost (before TMZ published it) from Melody Thomas Scott on Twitter. Folks were taking aim at Eric Braden and saying MM was fired because they clashed and he resented a younger "new Victor" emerging. EB got defensive and said he's always appreciated MM as a "damn fine actor" and MTS jumped into the EB vs MM fan attack by saying something vague and cryptic about "the viewers don't know all the facts" or "the network had no choice" or something? Anyway, it made the HK story seem more believable when TMZ pushed it......

[peacheslatour]

9 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

But how does EB have enough clout in Hollywood to keep MM from working years later? Seems to me if EB had that kind of power he wouldn't have been relegated to a soap opera for the last 30 years. (Yeah, he did Titanic. Yawn.) There are other broadcast networks besides CBS. There's also cable, Amazon, Netflix, even YouTube has gotten into the act. It doesn't make sense to me that he's barely gotten any work unless there's something really bad not being spoken of. Plenty of actors are arrogant and cocky. It just doesn't seem like enough for someone to have been virtually blackballed if the whole thing is based on a false or overblown story. ?

He also starred in the 2008 movie The Man Who Came Back which I happen to own. It's one of the most incredibly violent movies I have ever seen.

[ByTor]

I'm not buying the sexual inappropriateness thing, only because HHK has kept her mouth shut.  In this age of #metoo I can't see anyone forcing her to keep quiet about it, and if they did, I would more than encourage her to sing like a canary that she was abused and not allowed to do anything about it.  But I do agree with @Joimiaroxeu, clearly something happened that's preventing him from getting work.  Anger management issues?  Substance abuse issues?  Who knows, but yeah, it has to go beyond ego IMO.

Edited August 2, 2018 by ByTor

[valleycliffe]

i did not / do not think what was alleged michael muhney did to hunter king ever happened.

i do believe his hubris and ego got the best of him and in turn made him not very popular.

i really do think he was the best adam and the most like dear old dad...

[ezzylin]

14 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

But how does EB have enough clout in Hollywood to keep MM from working years later? Seems to me if EB had that kind of power he wouldn't have been relegated to a soap opera for the last 30 years. (Yeah, he did Titanic. Yawn.) There are other broadcast networks besides CBS. There's also cable, Amazon, Netflix, even YouTube has gotten into the act. It doesn't make sense to me that he's barely gotten any work unless there's something really bad not being spoken of. Plenty of actors are arrogant and cocky. It just doesn't seem like enough for someone to have been virtually blackballed if the whole thing is based on a false or overblown story. ?

I don't think it's about EB having "clout" - it's more about his friends having it. Isn't EB good friends with Les Moonves, the head of CBS? Hollywood is a small place- piss off someone whose influence is far reaching and it could potentially derail your career, just ask Ashley Judd, Mira Sorvina and the countless other actresses whose names we'll never know.

 I think EB knows how good he has it at Y&R , but he's also smart enough to know his behaviour wouldn't fly in Primetime or on a movie set. As for MM, he's admitted to his hubris, which valleycliffe mentioned above, was an issue. I think that EB felt threatened by MM's growing popularity with fans, hence the rumour that he was the one who wanted Shictor . *gags*

Edited August 3, 2018 by ezzylin

[Joimiaroxeu]

Check out the new Y&R opening:

Seriously, when has focusing Y&R so much on one character ever worked? I'm thinking this is going to blow back on GT eventually.

Edited August 3, 2018 by Joimiaroxeu

[NinjaPenguins]

That is the greatest soap opera opening ever! So accurate. 

[HeatLifer]

I legit spit up. Brilliant.

[PatsyandEddie]

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[spinxella]

 

 

 

[babyhouseman]

Gina T is really shoveling the BS.

[Joimiaroxeu]

She might be more than shoveling it. Looks to me like she's rolling around in and inhaling it. I love the part where she sort of compares herself to Audrey Hepburn. GT, you are never going to be in Audrey's league. She was a fashion icon for the ages. You're not even one for this week.

Edited August 6, 2018 by Joimiaroxeu

[HeatLifer]

In what world have any Phack fans turned into Philly fans? Pls, stfu, SID.

GT really has some balls to outright admit that the reason Phick is happening is because she wanted to work with JM. She really has Mal under her thumb. Sickening. 

Edited August 6, 2018 by HeatLifer

[NinjaPenguins]

I was a Phack fan. Naturally I transferred my loyalty and appreciation to Phyllis and Billy. After all, those Abbott dudes are interchangeable. It’s not like one Abbott male is a mayonnaise-dipped jackwagon with a two-car garage in the middle of his face and the morals of a feral dog who feasts on his own pooch patties. 

[Capricasix]

Wilson Bethel will be in the upcoming season of Daredevil, as an FBI agent also known as Bullseye. I’m excited, not because of this casting news but because Daredevil will be back soon!

[valleycliffe]

11 hours ago, HeatLifer said:

In what world have any Phack fans turned into Philly fans? Pls, stfu, SID.

GT really has some balls to outright admit that the reason Phick is happening is because she wanted to work with JM. She really has Mal under her thumb. Sickening. 

she was a little bitter that she and jm were only in about 2 scenes together....

good dog, is she taking lessons from ms on wanting all the men to want her?

how soon before EVERYONE starts trumpeting about how HAWT, how SEXAY, what a rockin BOD phyl has....

sorry, just remembering how much it was said during ms time as phyl.

[NinjaPenguins]

I suppose one could want to work with JM because he gets front burner story and solid airtime. GT already has that. Maybe someone could want to work with JM because he’s a fun guy; that’s not a good reason to have Phyllis and Nick disgracing themselves on a kitchen island. No one could possibly want to work with JM because he elevates their acting game or is a dynamic scene partner, so... I hope it’s not because GT wants even more airtime or that Young truly believes the show needs more Phyllis. 

[peacheslatour]

20 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

I suppose one could want to work with JM because he gets front burner story and solid airtime. GT already has that. Maybe someone could want to work with JM because he’s a fun guy; that’s not a good reason to have Phyllis and Nick disgracing themselves on a kitchen island. No one could possibly want to work with JM because he elevates their acting game or is a dynamic scene partner, so... I hope it’s not because GT wants even more airtime or that Young truly believes the show needs more Phyllis. 

Show needs less Phyllis. A lot less.

[FairyDusted]

Like NONE! And to think I had hope with GT! I'm a damn fool.

[Sake614]

On 8/6/2018 at 11:03 AM, valleycliffe said:

what a rockin BOD

Well she does have that lol!