S05.E13: Party Down

[MerryMary]

Haven't watched the episode yet but I think I can fill in some blanks since I watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.  This particular white party was hosted by Bella Magazine  who put Lisa Vanderpump of their cover.  Fellow housewives Lisa Rhinna, Eileen Davidson, Kyle Richards, and Erika Girardi came to the party to support Lisa V.  Apparently this venue is nothing more than an old Motel 6 converted into a newer type motel.  Lisa R., Eileen, and Kyle decided not to stay at the motel because it was noisy and there was no room service.  Meanwhile, back in LA, news of Kim Richards' arrest is breaking.  Lisa VP is annoyed that everyone decided to stay elsewhere, everyone's curious about Kim's arrest, and next week, just to complicate things, Bethenny Frankel shows up.  So.... the RHOBH had enough storylines going, they didn't need Farrah's drama too.  Plus, Farrah isn't even on Bravo, so who cares about her?  Do you think this was the first party she ever crashed?  Nope.  I bet this was the first party she ever got kicked out of.  Couldn't have happened to a nicer person.

[Primetimer]

It’s the bachelor/bachelorette party for the wedding we’ve been hearing about for six years, and Butch celebrates being out of jail by asking a stripper for a beej.

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[Ljohnson1987]

Maci. STOP begging Taylor to marry you. Just because you have a kid together, doesn’t mean that you have to get married. Also, I bet MTV paid for that Vegas trip. Maci is becoming annoying.

Farrah: It was hilarious to see Farrah and Deb be thrown out of the White Party. Also, she has the same manager as Jenelle. Farrah is delusional. She needs help.

Catelynn: Catelynn has major trust issues. She and Tyler need therapy. Also, who cares how Teresa feels about Butch? Catelynn and Tyler need to realize that Brandon and Teresa care about nothing, other than Carly.

Amber: I feel bad for Amber. She and Gary are both using Leah as a pawn. Also, doesn’t it seem like her cousin is always knocked up?

Overall the episode was a little boring.

[kira28]

These girls are so pathetic its sad. I envy the money they make, would love to bring that kind of cash home. But would not trade lives with any of them! Farrah and her mother are totally delusional. Maci is a straight up bitch and no I don't think she is a good mother. She's always pawning her kids off on their grandparents so she can go party with friends. I understand the need for a date night a few times a month but to leave your few-months old daughter for a weekend and to leave your son with the very grandparents you were just bitching about how they see him too much and you want to spend more time with them.. and go off and party in Vegas for a weekend.. not very responsible parents. Taylor so does NOT want to marry Maci. He's only around for the fame. As evidenced by his "joking" remark about how he will propose at the end of the season so there will be another season. He's a fame whore and a slightly less evil version of Ryan. He doesn't seem like he's much help with Jayde as Maci is always the one holding her and feeding her and Taylor admitted he rarely changes diapers. I think he's only in it for the fame and that is why he won't propose. What other reasons could he have? He's already living with her, they bought a house together, they have a child together for god's sake! An engagement ring is no big deal after you've already made all those other commitments. Most people are engaged for at least a year so he could easily put the ring on her finger and just push the wedding back. But he's not even decent enough to spring for the engagement ring. I think he's there for the cameras, not for Maci. He doesn't seem to like her very much.

Tyler and Caitlyn- when Cait said her dad was watching Nova, I wondered why Kim or April were not watching her. Was shocked (Guess I shouldn't have been!) to see them at Cait's bachelorette party. Kind of trashy to have your mother and future mother in law at your party but that family is the epitome of trash I guess. Tyler did seem to be enjoying those strippers. So maybe he is straight. Could not believe Butch asked that stripper for a bj. WOW. Caitlyn looks like she's Tyler's mother not his fiancé. Especially when she was kissing him goodbye before he got on the party bus.

Amber is delusional as well. Don't believe a word she says. If you are so concerned about spending time with your daughter why would you move 45 minutes away!! She gets to see her for 3 hours on Wednesdays but because Leah has school and she has to be in bed by a decent time most of that time is spent driving (unless Amber takes her somewhere close to Gary's house). Loved how Amber and Matt played on the jungle gym for about five minutes then were relieved when the other kids wanted to play with Leah and Matt was like whew let's go sit on this bench and take a break. That is all they do is sit around! Even on camera Amber can't play with her child that she complains she doesn't see enough for more than ten minutes. I totally believe Leah when she says Amber sleeps all day and doesn't do anything with her.

Did anyone else see the horrified look Kristina shot Gary when he said he got STUCK taking care of Leah? LOL. I hate to defend Gary because I don't care for him, but in a way I understood what he was trying to say. He just didn't word it very nicely. My ex husband cheated and left shortly after our 2nd child was born. He basically abandoned both kids and I was "stuck" taking care of them by myself. Not a choice I would make willingly. Now in Amber's case the reason for leaving Leah was more extreme (drugs and prison) but Gary had to be the sole parent of Leah and that definitely wasn't a choice he would make willingly but did it because he loves his daughter. I had to take care of both kids, provide for all their needs (financially at first too since Child support took 18 months to establish) and it was very difficult. I love my kids more than life itself but I definitely feel that their father got off easy. And now, like Gary and Amber, my ex husband recently filed for joint custody. The main reason he filed is because in my state, joint custody means neither party pays child support. He has already stated that his girlfriend will take care of the kids. So I understand Gary's frustration as far as the absent parent being "rewarded" by the court system and being praised for finally wanting to be a parent meanwhile the person that actually had to take care of their kids while the other was gone is now going to miss their child and worry about when their child is with the other parent. Most courts will award joint custody in these cases and I wouldn't be surprised if Amber gets 50/50 as long as she doesn't end up with any drug convictions before court.

Glad Farrah got thrown out of the white party only 4 minutes in. LOL. Serves her right. Love how her definition of classy was a short white dress that made her looks like a hooker. I sweat in most shots she looks like a man.

[woodscommaelle]

Also, my hubby came into the room while Sophia was on screen doing something weird and he asked me, "What is wrong with that girl?"

What was your reply bc I really need to know ;) 

Edited January 12, 2016 by woodscommaelle

[woodscommaelle]

And also, I do not like when Matt calls Leah 'Boo Boo' or whateverthefuck her nickname is.  Seems weird as shit to me.

[ghoulina]

And also, I do not like when Matt calls Leah 'Boo Boo' or whateverthefuck her nickname is.  Seems weird as shit to me.

 

I don't like it either. It's like he's trying to ingrain himself as this long standing member of his life, and that's so not the case. Not to mention, what are the nicknames of the half dozen kids you left behind???

 

I did like when he called her "squirt" and Leah quickly told him that that was NOT her name. 

[poeticlicensed]

I don't like it either. It's like he's trying to ingrain himself as this long standing member of his life, and that's so not the case. Not to mention, what are the nicknames of the half dozen kids you left behind???

 

I did like when he called her "squirt" and Leah quickly told him that that was NOT her name. 

Yep, Rick Moranis is such a skeevy parasite. He's in it for the $$$ and will kiss Amber's ass in order to stay on the money train. Everyone in the world can see it but Amber. 

Edited January 12, 2016 by poeticlicensed

[qtpye]

I think Matt is taking all the childcare responsibilities, because he desperately needs Amber and her money in his life.  He has thousands of dollars of owed child support and does not want to lose his wallet.

 

Matt has realized (along with all of us) that Amber does not enjoy taking care of Leah.  She likes to play with her for a little bit and then probably lets Matt do the heavy lifting.

 

Can you imagine having to spend the whole day with creepy Matt?  Yeah, Amber I would not want to go to your house either.

Edited January 12, 2016 by qtpye

[Tatum]

 

Can you imagine having to spend the whole day with creepy Matt.  Yeah, Amber I would not want to go to your house either.

 

You know, here's the thing. Matt doesn't even have to be abusive or a child molester or anything scary to make Leah uncomfortable. When I was 6-7, I was extremely shy around people I didn't know, particularly men. It wasn't that I was afraid they were going to be abusive, just that if I had to be stuck with strangers, I preferred kids or women. Amber sucks for taking such a passive role after being absent for so long.

[qtpye]

I agree, Matt is a stranger, where as Gary's wife has been in Leah's life for a long time.  I can tell that Leah loves Christina.  Matt should not be doing the majority of the child care, until Leah knows him a little better.

 

However, Amber will never put Leah's needs before her own.  If Amber wants to sleep all day then nothing is going to interrupt those plans.

[alexa]

I feel like Maci should be smart enough to know why it isn't a good idea to allow this "marriage" storyline on TV.  So, now if he actually proposes after all of this embarrassing discussion she has participated in (that awkward dinner conversation where she could have blown off the topic versus making herself look bad by making her boyfriend uncomfortable).... if he proposes at some point everyone will think he felt forced into it.  Not that he actually wanted to.  That is the key...the best proposals are those where the guy thinks of it on his own, and can feel like he chose to.  There is nothing romantic about a proposal after what has happened so far this season.  

 

Sure I can understand why she wonders why he hasn't.... but don't put that out there in public!  I don't know too many men that would know what to do with the pressure she has created for him.

[qtpye]

I feel like Maci should be smart enough to know why it isn't a good idea to allow this "marriage" storyline on TV.  So, now if he actually proposes after all of this embarrassing discussion she has participated in (that awkward dinner conversation where she could have blown off the topic versus making herself look bad by making her boyfriend uncomfortable).... if he proposes at some point everyone will think he felt forced into it.  Not that he actually wanted to.

 

 

I think Maci and the producers thought the marriage story line would make her interesting.  The problem is we do not care about Taylor.  It is not like Maci is an ultra picky girl who only bring select men of a certain standard into her child's life.  She has wanted to marry every guy she was involved with.  We all understand Maci just wants to be married and she does not care to who, and that Taylor would only marry her to keep the Mtv gravy train going.

 

Heck, Taylor's barber is more interesting then Taylor.

[lezlers]

I've never hated Maci like a lot of people here seem to, I also think she's a good mom, she and Chelsea are the best moms of the bunch. She does stuff that annoys me, but I don't necessarily dislike her.

I agree.  Maci is a good mom.  My issues with her are mainly that she's lazy.  The girl has been trying to get her AA for what, 6 or 7 years now?  I also side-eye her for buying a home and having a baby with a man and then pressuring him into marriage.  Honey, if you wanted to be married that badly, maybe try holding off on things like buying property together and procreating until you actually have the ring. As it stands now, he's got ZERO incentive to propose as she's clearly not going anywhere.   I don't believe for a hot minute that she "accidentally" got pregnant the second time. 

 

She's still miles better than Amber or Farrah, however.

Edited January 12, 2016 by lezlers

[FlowerofCarnage]

Farrah posted a video of Sophia calling Nicki Minaj a "loser". Are are absolutely no depths to which Farrah will sink?

[politichick]

Perfect description of Farrah 's mom, a leg humper. LOL. Did you all hear Debra say to her already delusional daughter that the work that Farrah has done on the show has changed the world. What? The world? Really? I think mentally something is wrong with Debra, Farrah and, for all those faces and constantly hitting people, Sophia has been hit with it as well.

I agree, but to her credit, Debra did try to tell Farrah from the start of this controversy that the sex tape was probably the issue and Farrah's reaction, suggesting she was about to blow a gasket over the words sex tape, made her back off. But even if Farrah didn't want to discuss it, to blame her appearance on Teen Mom was fucking crazy and I feel like deep down inside she knew who stupid she sounded.

Perfect description of Farrah 's mom, a leg humper. LOL. Did you all hear Debra say to her already delusional daughter that the work that Farrah has done on the show has changed the world. What? The world? Really? I think mentally something is wrong with Debra, Farrah and, for all those faces and constantly hitting people, Sophia has been hit with it as well.

I agree, but to her credit, Debra did try to tell Farrah from the start of this controversy that the sex tape was probably the issue and Farrah's reaction, suggesting she was about to blow a gasket over the words sex tape, made her back off. But even if Farrah didn't want to discuss it, to blame her appearance on Teen Mom was fucking crazy and I feel like deep down inside she knew who stupid she sounded.

[WhitneyWhit]

I almost..almost..felt sorry for Farrah last night, but not really. She really thought her porn..err sorry...leaked sex tape, would be her ticket to fame and the inside ala Kim Kardashian  or Paris Hilton, but what she fails to realize is that those girls were part of that inner circle before their sex tapes, that's why their sex tapes were such a big deal, they were socialites from prominent families. And I'm really glad that she rose above porn, I wonder if she took her silicone vagina molds with her, or if they were left behind like a classless white party?

 

Here's a thought, Maci, if you're not sure the man you're with wants to marry you, or you have to beg him, don't have a baby with him.

[vmcd88]

I would think that Amber would be glad she has Leah (aka Boo Boo) every other weekend.   Means more time for her to lounge on the couch.  Farrah saying that she was uninvited to the white party because she's a Teen Mom is just the height of delusional.  

Trust me Caitlyn no stripper in interested in your man, just his money.  I hate seeing the producers!!!

Did Maci finally get that ring?

Oh yeah and Gary saying he was the one stuck taking care of Leah....just TERRIBLE.  Your daughter will watch that one day idiot.  

Edited January 12, 2016 by vmcd88

[Mya Stone]

Farrah "overcame" the porn video?

Was she standing on the mountain top of dicks and was able to rise above all of them? This broad is really a moron. Or she thinks we're the morons and by just saying Teen Mom is the reason people scorn her we'll believe it. Teen Mom isn't the reason, neither is the porn. It's really because she a damn wack job and lacks the ability to behave as a human.

I can not shake the image of Farrah dressed as a gladiator standing on top of a pile of dicks and shaking a floppy dildo speechifying through her tears. Have any brain bleach, Brookynista?

[njmama]

I hate to say this, but in another life Butch would have been a pretty handsome guy. It's almost amazing how decent he looks considering his hard life of drug use, alcohol, and jail.

Sadly, after Ryan, Butch is the second best looking guy on the show.

Word. Up. I said out loud in front of njpapa "nnnooooooo" as he walked into the salon. I was hoping we'd be spoiled with his mane a little longer.

Maci....granted Ryan only proposed to you at the urging of his parents trying to make him do the right thing. An engagement MACI broke off. Then we see her practically begging Kyle a few seasons back about getting married. She has no problem shacking up with guys trying to lock it down with either a baby or a ring. I hope her baby daddy doesn't propose at this point. Get back with Ryan and call it a day.

[ghoulina]

It is not like Maci is an ultra picky girl who only bring select men of a certain standard into her child's life.  She has wanted to marry every guy she was involved with.  We all understand Maci just wants to be married and she does not care to who,

 

I think she pretty much said as much last night. I cannot remember the exact words or context, but it struck me as interesting that Maci was stressing that she would be married - no emphasis on whom. She just wants that status. She does not care who the guy is. 

[poeticlicensed]

I think she pretty much said as much last night. I cannot remember the exact words or context, but it struck me as interesting that Maci was stressing that she would be married - no emphasis on whom. She just wants that status. She does not care who the guy is. 

I think Maci sees herself as the ultimate TM success story. Remember back to days on 16 an P and the first couple of season of TM, Maci was the one with the advantages. She had supportive parents (and Ryans parents too), was smart, college bound, she was the one that the audience was pinning their hopes on to make it and not be a TM stereotype. She even started giving speeches and  touring. Fast foward 5 years and I think she stills sees herself as the good successful Teen Mom. The only thing that's missing from making her simply perfect is to find a guy and get a ring on it. That's why she was pushing so hard with Kyle and now Taylor. She is desperate to be the ultimate TM success story. 

Edited January 12, 2016 by poeticlicensed

[NikSac]

And also, I do not like when Matt calls Leah 'Boo Boo' or whateverthefuck her nickname is.  Seems weird as shit to me.

 

I agree, although it's better than "Booger Butt."

If Amber wants to sleep all day then nothing is going to interrupt those plans.

 

Didn't she say she only sleeps until "10 <bleep> thirty" when Leah's with her?

[poopchute]

I lost count of the number of times Maci said a variation of "I will not pressure someone to marry me/I would never pressure him/I'm not pressuring him" while actually simultaneously making comments that can only be interpreted as pressuring him to marry her. Man she is so dim.

[heatherchandler]

Don't you have to be a little classy to go to the White Party? Farrah has no class.

No, these days the White Party is just a crappy sponsored bullshit day-club event with terrible food.

 

There is no one with any class in attendance.  Hello - the Housewives were there.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

No, these days the White Party is just a crappy sponsored bullshit day-club event with terrible food.

 

There is no one with any class in attendance.  Hello - the Housewives were there.

Compared to Farrah, some of the Real Housewives are pretty darn classy.

[LilaFowler]

LMAO!  Crashing a party and getting kicked out 4 minutes later, all while wearing an ugly pink hat, is so classy!  It was a Housewives party?!  Farrah is such gutter trash that even the Real Housewives don't want her.  That is sad.

 

I had a good laugh when Farrah was trying to blame her association with Teen Mom as being the reason she was uninvited and then clueless Debra refused to play along.  The more she tried to turn the conversation away from her porn tape, the more Debra and the producer kept talking about it.  That was amazing.  Yeah, Farrah, Teen Mom is the reason everyone thinks you're a dirty ho.  Sure.  LOL.

 

Butch asking the stripper for oral sex was kind of hilarious. 

[lezlers]

I also cracked up at Amber's "I'm up by 10:30 when she's here" protest.  Most small kids wake up fairly early.  My two are usually up between 6-7.  Since she's used to waking up for school, I'm guessing Leah doesn't sleep longer than 8 on the weekends.  Two and a half hours is a long time for a six year old to spend alone with skeevy Matt.  Sleeping in until 10:30 as a parent is practically unheard of and for her to think it makes her a good mom is hilarious.  She clearly has no idea what raising a small child actually entails. 

 

My husband somehow ended up watching this with me last night and we were both dying at her "10:30" comment.  I don't think I've slept that late since high school.  He also said during the Farrah scene said "holy shit, these people are delusional!"  Honey, you don't even know the half of it.

Edited January 12, 2016 by lezlers

[GreatKazu]

The after-show - How much you all wanna bet it was Farrah who wanted to sit by herself and have a "throne" to call her own? At first I thought what a nice little bunch of mean girls with their clique as they sit together. But, I thought how Farrah might feel and I imagine she told the producers she didn't want to share a damn couch with the other three because she is above them all. 

 

I just have to comment on Farrah's look on the after-show. The girl looked real pretty! *ducks*   Her upper lip didn't look as gargantuan as they do on the show. Her make-up and hair were on point. Her outfit was pretty cute, too. Okay, that is all I have to point out about Farrah that was positive.

 

That White Party was shown on the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills episode last week. It was a real cheesy event. I am seriously shocked since this party was thrown for Lisa Vanderpump. Even the other housewives were not happy with their accommodations and left. The people in attendance didn't seem to be anyone other than a bunch of nobodies and fillers. For Farrah to have been denied entrance was likely due to keep her from interacting with the housewives on the show or to avoid having her photographed with any of them. 

 

 

LOL, you could tell by the look on his face right after he said that that he realized he may have stepped in it. I don't really care for Gary. I think he is a down low mind fucker. But in this case, I didn't think he meant that in a negative way towards Leah. I think he was trying to express that he became a single parent when Amber was whacked out on drugs and subsequently in prison. He did all the heavy lifting and she waltzes back in and wants to call the shots. I kind of get where he is coming from. But, at the same time - it's been a few years now and Amber hasn't gotten in any trouble. She may not be setting the world on fire, but she's mostly on the straight and narrow. At some point he's going to have to start giving her a bit more leeway.

That is how I viewed his comment, too. He feels like how many other single parents feel when they are taking on the load of being a full-time parent. Gary may still have some resentment towards Amber for all that she put him and Leah through. We also don't get a lot of insight into Amber's world other than this show. All we see is Amber laying around in bed or on the couch. Going by what Leah is saying, she is bored as fuck with her mommy and Matt takes over Amber's parental duties. Just magnify that shit by 100 and you can get an image of what life at Amber's home is really like for Leah. It may not be dysfunctional or an abusive environment, but it is also not Matt's place to be caring for Gary and Amber's child. I'd be seriously shitting bricks if I knew some strange guy was caring for my child while my ex was asleep in bed. God knows we all have heard horror stories about the boyfriend/girlfriend who was harming a child. 

 

Someone here pointed out a while back that Matt is not conning Amber. Didn't Matt try to hook-up with Jenelle before he hooked up with Amber? 

 

Did I hear Amber say she gets up at 10 a.m.? Must be nice to sleep in. Must be nice not to have a job to go to or not be involved in getting an education. Hell, she doesn't even go to any sort of therapy or counseling. Her reason for going to prison was to avoid rehab and relapsing which would have garnered her prison time anyways. Just because she chose a different route to get clean and sober doesn't mean she then doesn't have to get the help that she would need to do post-rehab. That might be one of the reasons why Gary is hesitant to give Amber any leeway with sharing custody. Just because Amber is not doing drugs doesn't mean she is capable of having some custody of her child. There is more to being a parent than what Amber seems to think. 

 

What is it with the producers who sit around on the floor when chatting it up with the girls? Are they afraid to sit on Amber's couch? Is it all funky smelling or what? LOL

Edited January 12, 2016 by GreatKazu

[leighroda]

I'm no stranger to sleeping in, I function better at night and I have a board exam coming up, so I stay up and study until about 4-5 am, and sleep until about 10-11, but I don't have any children, and my purpose is more for the fact I have fewer distractions in the middle of the night, everyone is asleep, so I'm not getting phone calls, or people coming in my room, etc. I wouldn't judge Amber for sleeping in IF she did anything other than sitting on that damn couch. I really don't care how late someone sleeps in, if your life allows for you to sleep until 10:30, by all means do it, but Amber's doesn't, at least when she has Leah.

It's so frustrating to see how offended she is about Leah not wanting to spend time with her. Unfortunately, I doubt this will be the last time this happens.

[Snarky McSnarky]

I almost..almost..felt sorry for Farrah last night, but not really. She really thought her porn..err sorry...leaked sex tape, would be her ticket to fame and the inside ala Kim Kardashian  or Paris Hilton, but what she fails to realize is that those girls were part of that inner circle before their sex tapes, that's why their sex tapes were such a big deal, they were socialites from prominent families. And I'm really glad that she rose above porn, I wonder if she took her silicone vagina molds with her, or if they were left behind like a classless white party?

 

 

Prior to the porn video revelation, Farrah went back to living with Debra in Nowheresville (apologies to Council Bluff).  There was nothing happening but the pepper sauce that perhaps three people purchased, and some Fusion restaurant that she was going to open but never did.  Her phone wasn't ringing.  If not for that video, she'd still be living with one of her parents and desperately Tweeting outrageous comments about celebrities in the hope that some tabloid would reprint them.  I don't understand why she gets her panties in a bunch every time someone mentions the video -- it put her back on the map.  She's also lent her name to the Farrah's Friends Live Adult Webcam Website, so she hasn't exactly moved away from the sex industry. 

[LilaFowler]

I think Maci sees herself as the ultimate TM success story. Remember back to days on 16 an P and the first couple of season of TM, Maci was the one with the advantages. She had supportive parents (and Ryans parents too), was smart, college bound, she was the one that the audience was pinning their hopes on to make it and not be a TM stereotype. She even started giving speeches and  touring. Fast foward 5 years and I think she stills sees herself as the good successful Teen Mom. The only thing that's missing from making her simply perfect is to find a guy and get a ring on it. That's why she was pushing so hard with Kyle and now Taylor. She is desperate to be the ultimate TM success story. 

Crazily enough, I used to think that Farrah was going to be the TM success story.  Her parents seemed to have money and she had career goals that didn't involve dildos.  It still amazes me how she turned out.  Where was the wrong turn?  How does someone go from waitressing and going to school to making a porno overnight and working the "webcam model" websites?  It's bizarre.

[GreatKazu]

 

As far as timing, with the way these guys play around with the editing, I'm not sure we can always conclude what is a coincidence and what has been spliced together. It's also possible that the timing is important, and that Leah was willing to suck it up for the 3 or so hours a week she went to Amber's, but when faced with the prospect of regularly being over there, balked. Who knows. I'm no Gary apologist, but it's completely believable to me that Leah's trepidation about staying at Amber's has nothing to do with anything Gary has said or done.

Well put.  I can never rely on the editing because it gets pretty damn sloppy. I don't think it is a coincidence that Amber is asking for custody and suddenly Leah is saying all of these things. I am sure she has been saying these things and they have been ignored. Also, did anyone else notice how many different shades of color Amber's hair was in this episode? One moment she is saying we are on our way over and the next scene shows her in the car with her hair a different color. Yeah, the editors are fucking with us. 

[qtpye]

It is just crazy that someone from an upper middle class background with tons of options, would turn to porn.  Believe it or not, according to Amber, Vivid approached a lot of the Teen Moms and Farrah was the only one that accepted.  I actually do not have anything against porn people, but Farrah must be embarrassed by it the way she insists she is not in the industry and does not do porn.  I guess selling vagina molds are considered high art now?

[Red Bridey]

Farrah's babbling sounded to me like an amalgamation of Drunk Girl You Met at a Party and Sarah Palin...complete and utter nonsense said with complete certainty.  Why does every single woman who is involved with Farrah look like a porn star?  Birds of a feather?

[DoctorWhovian]

The best part of tonight: the face of the guy driving the car after Farrah got kicked out. Trying to shard to not react.

[Abmis]

I feel so bad for Leah.  She was so young when Amber went to prison that she probably didn't remember her very well.  Amber had to be pretty much a stranger to her when she was released from prison.  I'm not sure how long Amber was out before she got hooked up with Matt, but I think she should have devoted herself to becoming reacquainted with her daughter and getting custody issues straightened out before getting involved with a skeevy dude she met online. Poor Leah has to be confused and hurt by going to supposedly visit her mother and then spending so much time with alone with Matt.  Every time Amber announces that she's a great mother, I think of poor Leah in the crib with no sheets and it makes me stabby.

 

I think Farrah's breast and butt implants make her look dumpy.  Clothes don't fit her right and she just looks weird.   Did she always have such an awkward walk or is that the result of the butt implants?

[teapot]

I can not shake the image of Farrah dressed as a gladiator standing on top of a pile of dicks and shaking a floppy dildo speechifying through her tears. Have any brain bleach, Brookynista?

But..."nothing of the tape was said" (whatever the fuck that means...)

[NikSac]

Farrah is so disgusting. I was kind of relieved she was pulling out lotions and body sprays and stuff when she was Facetiming with her friend. At first I thought she was showing off her latest sex toys right in front of Sophia.  Also, I must say having never seen a "white party" before all I could think of was accidents waiting to happen (flashbacks to my teen years when my period started, plus various food spills).  I will say Farrah might have a slightly valid point in that Teen Mom is part of why she was uninvited. Because without Teen Mom she probably never would've gotten 'famous' at all, people wouldn't know what a horrible nasty person she is, and she probably wouldn't have done the sex tape either. Even if they didn't care about the sex tape at all, the rest is enough for people to not want her around.

 

Amber confuses me. She says she wants Leah more, but I don't think she really does. What I took away from it was she really doesn't like being forced to keep a schedule - any schedule. She seemed more upset about having a set time to take Leah back than she did about the limited time, at least to me. Gary confuses me too though, especially about how he didn't "get to" do the bad stuff Amber did, and "got stuck" taking care of Leah. Geez!  I think he slipped in saying it and didn't mean it the way it sounded, but I imagine poor Leah seeing that some day and it's kind of heartbreaking.

 

Maci wow way to kill a dinner with friends!  I did think it was funny when Taylor basically said he was waiting so they could get another season. I don't think he was kidding.

 

Catelynn and Ty I was glad they ended up with (semi) separate bachelor/ette parties, even though it wasn't what Cate wanted. I just thought it was good they finally spent a little time apart.  I also thought it was a little odd that Catelynn went into the strip club. They couldn't just call or text "we're here, meet us outside"?

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

Confession:

My baby is now 13 months old and I've never spent the night away from him. I'd be a basket case if I did, but also I have no family members that are available to watch him overnight or for a weekend - they all work (even on weekends) or are too elderly to care for a small child.

Everything about Maci's trip made me simultaneously think "How could you stand to leave months-old Baby Jayde already? I would have been a mess." and "Must be nice to have MTV fly you to Vegas, put you up in the MGM Grand, and pay for your vacation while some family member watches your baby for free so you can have several days/a weekend break from the responsibilities of parenting!!!" (I got a little stabby thinking about how they're getting a "break" like that.....obviously nowhere near as stabby as I get when I think about Jenelle taking several vacations a year and practically permanently being on a break from being a mom).

Maci might be the smartest TM, though. She's so boring that MTV probably paid for her and her friends to go to Vegas to give her a storyline for the episode. Well played.

She also has an amazing metabolism. If I drank that much beer as regularly as she seems to, I'd be huge.

Edited January 13, 2016 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

And y'all, April was clearly hammered.

[Tatum]

Ugh, Amber, just stop.

If I may get personal for a minute- I'll try and keep this brief- I have 2 kids, a 4 year old and a 5 month old. I work full time outside the home and I love my job. There is not a day that goes by that I don't feel at some point like a shitty mom. Maybe I tell my daughter to pick up her toys but end up doing it for her because it's just easier and I then worry I'm not teaching her to be responsible. Maybe I buy her a toy just because when she hasn't earned it and now I worry I'm spoiling her. Maybe I skip forcing her to practice writing her letters and I worry I'm not teaching her discipline and solid work ethic. Maybe I let her watch hours of her iPad/tv because I'm trying to clean pump parts or fold laundry, or get the fussy baby settled and I worry she's not getting enough attention from me, and also, I'm not stimulating her enough and she might end up the dumb kid in school. Maybe in a stressful moment I yell at their dad in front of them and worry I'm damaging them psychologically.

Worst is the feeling when I talk to other working moms and they say if finances would allow it, they would love to stay home. Me? I would take a financial loss if it meant getting to leave the house 8+ hours a day. Every day I deal with guilt and insecurity and never once have I thought, wow I'm really rocking this mom thing. Yet Amber wants to call herself an amazing mom? Fuck her and her low standards.

[mittsigirl]

Crap, I have been bitching under last weeks show.

That's how bad Farrah pisses me off!

[butterly17]

Are Maci's segments sponsered by Bud Light?  Jesus... put down the beer, girl.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

Tatum, I hear you. I'd rather work than deal with the pressure of being a perfect stay-at-home mom (and I love my job), but I feel guilty about working outside of the home.

And yeah, Amber clearly is doing the parenting thing wrong if she thinks she's awesome at it. Here's most of us feeling guilty about not being perfect moms and Amber sleeps in until 10:30 and still declares herself awesome. Heck, she must think we are downright overachievers for waking up when our kids are up and getting off the couch for them when necessary.

Edited January 13, 2016 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[fetching]

Amber is lazy. She wants more time with Leah, but can't be bothered to play with her at the park, instead pawns her off on some rando kid and goes off with Matt to sit and whine. Then leaves her with a grandparent. I think her only interest is in collecting the Teen Mom paycheck, and she needs the kid for that. 

And yes, a judge *will* ask a child where they want to live. I was asked at the age of 7 where I wanted to be. The judge took me and my brother into his chambers and asked us. 

 

 

 

[Maharincess]

Ugh, Amber, just stop.

If I may get personal for a minute- I'll try and keep this brief- I have 2 kids, a 4 year old and a 5 month old. I work full time outside the home and I love my job. There is not a day that goes by that I don't feel at some point like a shitty mom. Maybe I tell my daughter to pick up her toys but end up doing it for her because it's just easier and I then worry I'm not teaching her to be responsible. Maybe I buy her a toy just because when she hasn't earned it and now I worry I'm spoiling her. Maybe I skip forcing her to practice writing her letters and I worry I'm not teaching her discipline and solid work ethic. Maybe I let her watch hours of her iPad/tv because I'm trying to clean pump parts or fold laundry, or get the fussy baby settled and I worry she's not getting enough attention from me, and also, I'm not stimulating her enough and she might end up the dumb kid in school. Maybe in a stressful moment I yell at their dad in front of them and worry I'm damaging them psychologically.

Worst is the feeling when I talk to other working moms and they say if finances would allow it, they would love to stay home. Me? I would take a financial loss if it meant getting to leave the house 8+ hours a day. Every day I deal with guilt and insecurity and never once have I thought, wow I'm really rocking this mom thing. Yet Amber wants to call herself an amazing mom? Fuck her and her low standards.

No way!! He's 5 months old already?! Damn, time really does fly! Holy cow.

Everything you said in no way, shape or form makes you a bad mom! The fact that you worry about those things shows me what a great mom you are.

I loved being able to work a job that I could make my own hours and be home with my kids, but I know that's not for everyone and there's not a damn thing wrong with that. You recognizing that you're a better mom by getting those hours out of the house makes you a good mom. I know a lot of women like you who are great moms but don't want to be stay at home moms, that doesn't make them bad moms at all.

Sorry to go so off topic but I don't want you to feel guilty, you sound like a damn good mom to me.

Edited January 13, 2016 by Maharincess

[mittsigirl]

OH MY LAWD! Farrah is the most delusional person on the damn planet! Non one wants you at the party because you're on Teen Mom?? Girl, what???! You have got to be kidding me! And also, I don't think you know what "classy" means.

 

I would love to hear what her producers actually think about her. They all seem to tip toe around her, watching their words so that she doesn't get upset. I just need to know that they hate her as much as I do.

Wonder why that producer is not calling Farrah 'Farry', like she calls Amber 'Ambi'?

[GreatKazu]

Tatum - *slow clap*  You nailed it. I can understand both sides of what you just pointed out. I have felt guilty for working and for being home. Being at work, I felt guilty for not being there for my kids. Being at home, I felt guilty for not bringing home a paycheck. Then there were the times I felt great to be at work and be away from the responsibilities of home while other times I felt great to be at home and tend to the needs of my family. Amber has no clue what it means to be a parent because according to her own words, she was never clean and sober since she was a teen. How can she know what it entails to be a parent when she has never been a parent? She, like Jenelle, wants to have the title of "mom" without doing anything that average, normal parents do on a daily. 

 

If Amber would put as much effort into getting her shit together as she does as throwing shade at Gary and his wife, she might accomplish something. Amber is just so stank and messy. I am beginning to think this whole thing is Amber's story line. Where was all this concern about wanting custody before the season began filming? Why hasn't she filed any legal documents to obtain custody? Why has three years gone by? 

 

I am also thinking it has to do with Amber not having control over the matter. She wants Leah when she wants her. She doesn't want Gary or anyone else telling her when she can have her daughter. 

[Cosmocrush]

I think she pretty much said as much last night. I cannot remember the exact words or context, but it struck me as interesting that Maci was stressing that she would be married - no emphasis on whom. She just wants that status. She does not care who the guy is. 

She said, "that's always been my goal"  when asked about wanting to get married/marry Taylor.  

Edited January 13, 2016 by Cosmocrush