Erika Girardi/Erika Jayne: Let them eat cake

[Jextella]

The dude on the bottom is goregous.  Erica is just background.

[yourmomiseasy]

Please tell me these are the Girardi's Christmas cards this year.

[WireWrap]

12 minutes ago, yourmomiseasy said:

Please tell me these are the Girardi's Christmas cards this year.

Are she/Tom still married? She hasn't been wearing her wedding ring for a while now! 

[yourmomiseasy]

She'd be dumb to put in 20 years (or however long she has) and then just not wait him out since he's old and it also seems like he's never home.  Of course that assumes she initiated and he hasn't been Kelsey Grammering her.

[kokapetl]

If a gay guy nailed her in a porno would it still not count? 

[yourmomiseasy]

What????  Is there a story behind that?  I only pay attention to the various wives during their seasons.  It sounds juicy and I'm giddy like a kid on Christmas.

Edited December 15, 2017 by yourmomiseasy

[BBHN]

Just random rumors and speculation.

[KungFuBunny]

The Christmas pictures are from the Paper Magazine photo shoot.

Ericka was on WWHL Holiday bash.

Sonja flashed her snatch at Erika/Andy

Ericka looked gorgeous

[HunterHunted]

On 12/13/2017 at 7:06 PM, lunastartron said:

One of my mom's friends has a ton of celebrity and model clients. Her Christmas card is always her looking completely dumpy surrounded by gorgeous models.

[jaync]

Holy labia...and this bitch whined for a whole season because someone dared to mention they saw her cooch?

That illustration is less cartoonish than the real version.

LOL at those twinks, especially the "confused" one.

[Baltimore Betty]

The guy next to her looks like his meth is wearing off.

Does Erika send these to Tom's business contacts? LOL.

[BBHN]

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Holy labia...and this bitch whined for a whole season because someone dared to mention they saw her cooch?

Probably because there is a difference between a photo shoot you're in control of, versus a pervy peeping tom.

[jaync]

I wasn't referencing the photo shoot.

Bottom line, she fully knows when, where and how that thang is hanging at all times.

Edited December 18, 2017 by jaync

[nexxie]

imo she just seems pathetic, thirsty, desperate and lame with displays like this.

[jaync]

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The guy next to her looks like his meth is wearing off.

The one with the penciled-on mustache? 

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imo she just seems pathetic, thirsty, desperate and lame with displays like this. 

Her shtick is tired, and only snark-worthy at this point.

Edited December 18, 2017 by jaync

[stcroix]

3 minutes ago, jaync said:

The one with the penciled-on mustache? 

Her schtick is tired, and only snark-worthy at this point.

I thought the same thing about that mustache! :D  These guys look too young and not quite cooked or something to be hanging out with her in photoshoots.  It makes her look older in my opinion.  If she had some sexy muscled up 40 yr old guys with her it would look more real. 

[BBHN]

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Her shtick is tired, and only snark-worthy at this point.

Nah, she is still fun.

[Happy Camper]

On 12/13/2017 at 8:06 PM, lunastartron said:

Erika is very pretty, but in my opinion these photos look silly.  They manner in which they are posed and the facial expressions on the 2 guys looks ridiculous. The one on the bottom looks like a puppy and the one with the tongue, just ew. Not cute or sexy. 

Both of the boys look like Erika's glam squad did their makeup. 

I wonder if the photographer promised to take them out for ice cream after the shoot.

Edited December 19, 2017 by Happy Camper

[AntAnn]

7 hours ago, stcroix said:

If she had some sexy muscled up 40 yr old guys with her it would look more real. 

It would certainly appeal to me more, lol. 

[lunastartron]

2 hours ago, Happy Camper said:

Erika is very pretty, but in my opinion these photos look silly.  They manner in which they are posed and the facial expressions on the 2 guys looks ridiculous. The one on the bottom looks like a puppy and the one with the tongue, just ew. Not cute or sexy. 

Both of the boys look like Erika's glam squad did their makeup. 

I wonder if the photographer promised to take them out for ice cream after the shoot.

 

On December 15, 2017 at 0:18 PM, HunterHunted said:

One of my mom's friends has a ton of celebrity and model clients. Her Christmas card is always her looking completely dumpy surrounded by gorgeous models.

These kids have managed to parlay a very brief moment of viral video Internet traction (they're twin brothers who posted footage of themselves coming out to their dad on YouTube and were subsequently invited onto The Ellen Show) into stuff like this editorial and bit parts on Ryan Murphy shows. 

Erika's schtick is very strange; she's supposed to be sexually liberated and powerful in her stage persona but in reality she just uses that female sexuality as a fetishistic novelty/curiosity for homosexual audiences in a fashion that's so crude it's kind of misogynistic itself.  

Edited December 19, 2017 by lunastartron

[BBHN]

I don't see it is misogynistic at all. Curiosity for homosexual audiences? Some of us homos like over-the-top strong campy women, it has nothing to do with being a novelty or curiosity. Some homos don't. To each their own.

[AntAnn]

I’ve rewritten and erased my reply 4 times. I will weigh in tomorrow without my Chardonnay. 

[lunastartron]

Some of us homos promote caricatures of female strength and sexual empowerment in lieu of actual female strength and sexual empowerment. And some of those caricatures are reductive and casually misogynistic in the same way that racism and homophobia don't have to be rabidly vitriolic to qualify as such. 

To me, Erika is one of those caricatures and, yup, does present (a largely gay male-authored, male-subsidized facsimile of) feminine sexuality and independence as a gimmick that is belied by her general lack of agency ("my husband is pissed at me because I'm not allowed to act like that"; her preoccupation about how her sexuality is, in fact, being perceived by "those close to my husband"; her insistence that Tom was due an apology for PantyGate as much as herself, the directly aggrieved). 

From my perspective, Erika Jayne has very little to do with autonomous, bossy women; it's a crassly drawn fantasy and parody. 

Edited December 19, 2017 by lunastartron

[BBHN]

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Some of us homos promote caricatures of female strength and sexual empowerment in lieu of actual female strength and sexual empowerment.

Good thing I'm not that type of homo.

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And some of those caricatures are reductive and casually misogynistic in the same way that racism and homophobia don't have to be rabidly vitriolic to qualify as such. 

Except I don't see that applying to Erica at all.

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From my perspective

As I said, to each their own.

[HunterHunted]

31 minutes ago, lunastartron said:

Some of us homos promote caricatures of female strength and sexual empowerment in lieu of actual female strength and sexual empowerment. And some of those caricatures are reductive and casually misogynistic in the same way that racism and homophobia don't have to be rabidly vitriolic to qualify as such. 

To me, Erika is one of those caricatures and, yup, does present (a largely gay male-authored, male-subsidized facsimile of) feminine sexuality and independence as a gimmick that is belied by her general lack of agency ("my husband is pissed at me because I'm not allowed to act like that"; her preoccupation about how her sexuality is, in fact, being perceived by "those close to my husband"; her insistence that Tom was due an apology for PantyGate as much as herself, the directly aggrieved). 

From my perspective, Erika Jayne has very little to do with autonomous, bossy women; it's a crassly drawn fantasy and parody. 

Dead on. Everything about Erika Jayne is conventional--big breasts, ass on display, crotch displayed, and tons of big blonde hair. I guarantee that there is a Playboy shoot that looks 90% the same as this one. In contrast, Nicki Minaj has a recent photo shoot for Paper. It's just as naked, if not more so. It's more sexual than Erika's, but the only person featured in Nicki's shoot in Nicki. It is Nicki getting off on Nicki. Literally.

http://www.papermag.com/break-the-internet-nicki-minaj-sexy-full-story-2509721568.html?slide=wFKUyw

Do I think it's completely successful? No, but it's a hell of a lot more empowered and unconventional than Erika.

As to the bolded, her very retrograde notions about sex and personal agency continue to astound me. I cannot believe that she thinks Tom is owed an apology because PK accidentally saw Erika's crotch. She's not chattel. She has no idea how fucked this idea is.

[gundysgirl]

3 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

As to the bolded, her very retrograde notions about sex and personal agency continue to astound me. I cannot believe that she thinks Tom is owed an apology because PK accidentally saw Erika's crotch. She's not chattel. She has no idea how fucked this idea is.

I don't think that is why she wanted an apology for Tom, was it? Not because he saw her crotch, but because PK went around acting like she was flashing him on purpose? A married woman out alone without her husband is accused of spreading her legs wide open to give another man a look-see. 

[Happy Camper]

Who swiped her arms? 

I wish Tom would let her redecorate. That is one depressing room.

Edited December 19, 2017 by Happy Camper

[HunterHunted]

10 minutes ago, gundysgirl said:

I don't think that is why she wanted an apology for Tom, was it? Not because he saw her crotch, but because PK went around acting like she was flashing him on purpose? A married woman out alone without her husband is accused of spreading her legs wide open to give another man a look-see. 

Even still, the allegation impugns Erika's character. She's the one who should have received the apology. It's still such a backwards notion that Tom is separately offended because the argument is "What kind of man would be married to a woman who lets others willingly look at her naked?" Lots of married women are naked professionally. They are models, actresses, artists, strippers, sex workers, or porn actresses. Their husbands are either cool with it or they aren't. It's just that simple. If they aren't cool with others seeing their wives naked, then that's a discussion the husband and wife need to have together not the dude who saw her. Clearly Erika isn't cool with randoms seeing all of her parts. She was careless; PK saw her. He then speculated that she might have done it intentionally. Erika wasn't cool with that. PK owed her alone an apology.

Lots of people looked at Jennifer Lawrence's illegally obtained nudes. Some people even tried to slut shame her for taking the pictures, which is bullshit. But no one turned to Nicholas Hoult or whomever she was dating at the time and asked "How could you be with a whore who sends nude photos to guys?" He's either cool with nudes or he's not. That's between them. As part of the public, you are either cool with women taking nudes to send to their partners or you are not as is your right. But there's no transitive property that allows you to transfer your distaste with Erika along to Tom unless the two of them were partners in doing something criminal together. And again partners. In the reverse if PK wronged Erika, PK owes Erika an apology no matter how much the allegation might have upset Tom.

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, gundysgirl said:

I don't think that is why she wanted an apology for Tom, was it? Not because he saw her crotch, but because PK went around acting like she was flashing him on purpose? A married woman out alone without her husband is accused of spreading her legs wide open to give another man a look-see. 

But why did she demand an apology be given to Tom when he didn't even know what had happened to begin with? Erika revealed, on WWHL, that Tom did not watch the show and that she never told him that PK saw her business then talked about it, so she was just playing "hurt/angry/embarrassed for the cameras/viewers and nothing more.

[jaync]

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She'd be dumb to put in 20 years (or however long she has) and then just not wait him out since he's old and it also seems like he's never home. Of course that assumes she initiated and he hasn't been Kelsey Grammering her.

True, she saw fit to dump her child for that wallet, so it would seem unlikely that she wouldn't stay as long as Tom will have her. Then again, if she can pay for her slobber squad on her own dime, she may feel like riding old man peen is no longer worth the effort.

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Erika is very pretty, but in my opinion these photos look silly. 

I literally cannot stop laughing at them (which I'm sure wasn't the intention).

Edited December 19, 2017 by jaync

[KungFuBunny]

[BBHN]

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Lots of married women are naked professionally. They are models, actresses, artists, strippers, sex workers, or porn actresses. Their husbands are either cool with it or they aren't. It's just that simple. If they aren't cool with others seeing their wives naked, then that's a discussion the husband and wife need to have together not the dude who saw her.

I suppose there is a distinction between seeing someone naked as a part of their act versus leering at them during a social setting.

Also, this:

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Not because he saw her crotch, but because PK went around acting like she was flashing him on purpose? A married woman out alone without her husband is accused of spreading her legs wide open to give another man a look-see. 

[SweetieDarling]

2 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Was there a theme to this event? Like, perhaps "Wear Your Most Ridiculous, Ugly or Ill Fitting Outfit (bonus points if you look like a hooker)"? or, maybe they weren't allowed to dress for the party until they consumed mass quantities of egg nog.

Edited December 19, 2017 by SweetieDarling
I just noticed Margaret's antlers; We'll assume The Holidays are involved

[jaync]

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Not because he saw her crotch, but because PK went around acting like she was flashing him on purpose?

Maybe PK felt she did flash him on purpose, of which he was entitled to believe. Just as Erika was entitled to go pantyless, announce her pantylessness, and give those in view a shot of said pantylessness.

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I wish Tom would let her redecorate. That is one depressing room.

Her makeup is awful there. That lip liner makes it look like she sucked a Hershey bar beforehand.

[BBHN]

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Maybe PK felt she did flash him on purpose, of which he was entitled to believe. Just as Erika was entitled to go pantyless, announce her pantylessness, and give those in view a shot of said pantylessness.

That would make PK even more sleazy.

[Happy Camper]

2 hours ago, jaync said:

Maybe PK felt she did flash him on purpose, of which he was entitled to believe. Just as Erika was entitled to go pantyless, announce her pantylessness, and give those in view a shot of said pantylessness.

Exactly why she can't pretend to be all pearl clutching. It's not like she was trying to be discreet.

I hope she has a more interesting story this season.

[KungFuBunny]

55 minutes ago, BBHN said:

That would make PK even more sleazy.

Oi thaw oi wood juss tewlt me hud too thaw sigh an gut a good luck say

 

Ahhhhh!!!!!

[HunterHunted]

4 hours ago, BBHN said:

I suppose there is a distinction between seeing someone naked as a part of their act versus leering at them during a social setting.

I've always felt that a mutual apology was necessary.

Erika: I'm sorry that I flashed you. It was an accident. I didn't want to make you feel uncomfortable. I'm sorry if I did,

PK: I'm sorry that my looking turned into leering. It wasn't intentional. I wasn't my intention to make you feel uncomfortable. I shouldn't have implied that you flashed us intentionally. I don't know you well enough to make that inference. I was making a gross inference based on my discomfort with your stage persona. I apologize.

Dorit: I was attempting to make a joke to make an uncomfortable situation less uncomfortable. It wasn't my intention to humiliate you. I'm sorry.

Done. Because they all fucked up in that situation.

[zoeysmom]

1 hour ago, Happy Camper said:

Exactly why she can't pretend to be all pearl clutching. It's not like she was trying to be discreet.

I hope she has a more interesting story this season.

A little Erika goes a long way.  The double persona is getting a little old.  I know the photos are-just the same thing over and over.  Shock value is at about zero.  Don't understand her need for overexposure and I am still not buying what she is selling.  I can't imagine the photos expand her music buying audience.   

[Happy Camper]

37 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

A little Erika goes a long way.  The double persona is getting a little old.  I know the photos are-just the same thing over and over.  Shock value is at about zero.  Don't understand her need for overexposure and I am still not buying what she is selling.  I can't imagine the photos expand her music buying audience.   

Enough of Erika Jayne.

I would be much more interested in learning more about Erika Girardi. Can we see more of her?

Hope so. 

Please show us more of Erika Girardi!!!

Edited December 20, 2017 by Happy Camper

[lunastartron]

2 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

A little Erika goes a long way.  The double persona is getting a little old.  I know the photos are-just the same thing over and over.  Shock value is at about zero.  Don't understand her need for overexposure and I am still not buying what she is selling.  I can't imagine the photos expand her music buying audience.   

Excuse me, there is nothing more offensive or titillating than a curvaceous woman jiggling in a music video of all media. 

It's so boundary-pushing. 

Erika even thinks she "won an award" for it. 

5 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

I've always felt that a mutual apology was necessary.

Erika: I'm sorry that I flashed you. It was an accident. I didn't want to make you feel uncomfortable. I'm sorry if I did,

PK: I'm sorry that my looking turned into leering. It wasn't intentional. I wasn't my intention to make you feel uncomfortable. I shouldn't have implied that you flashed us intentionally. I don't know you well enough to make that inference. I was making a gross inference based on my discomfort with your stage persona. I apologize.

Dorit: I was attempting to make a joke to make an uncomfortable situation less uncomfortable. It wasn't my intention to humiliate you. I'm sorry.

Done. Because they all fucked up in that situation.

Dorit and PK to Tom: I'm sorry that your wife, of her own agency, made the decision to wear no underwear to a public event and filming set and that said decision resulted in her inadvertently exposing a glimpse of her snatch. As well as that our resulting speculation about why she would make such a functionally impractical choice is, according to her, evidently going to make you scrutinize her sexual virtue and fidelity because of what those "close to you" say. Even though you don't know anything about this so, how, exactly, is this going to affect your marriage since it's not important for your wife to tell you about? And why would it impact your marriage anyway? And why are we apologizing to you again for something that offended Erika and about which you are unaware/didn't involve you at all since she is, after all, a grown-ass 46-year-old woman?

[BBHN]

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Oi thaw oi wood juss tewlt me hud too thaw sigh an gut a good luck say

Blimey, what a dodgy bugger.

Edited December 20, 2017 by BBHN

[Fiero425]

9 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

Was there a theme to this event? Like, perhaps "Wear Your Most Ridiculous, Ugly or Ill Fitting Outfit (bonus points if you look like a hooker)"? or, maybe they weren't allowed to dress for the party until they consumed mass quantities of egg nog.

I guess I'm old fashioned! I can't stand women out in evening wear without stockings or tights! Hideous legs remain hideous even if they're wearing designer clothing! Those are some ugly, bulging legs there! ;-(

[MatildaMoody]

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PK: I'm sorry that my looking turned into leering. It wasn't intentional. I wasn't my intention to make you feel uncomfortable. I shouldn't have implied that you flashed us intentionally. I don't know you well enough to make that inference. I was making a gross inference based on my discomfort with your stage persona. I apologize.

 

I feel like this should be clarified. We never saw PK leering. What we saw was Ericka announcing that she wasn't wearing while 4 people sitting opposite from her could and did see. Then, the only person who implied and outright mocked her for doing it on purpose was Eileen Davidson. When PK and Doris did their scripted bit in the kitchen discussing the evening before, they both made a point to say the flash was accidental. When Dorit went to the other women to talk about the "joke" she wanted to play, she made sure to clarify that she knew it was an accident and that's why she thought the "joke" would be funny. Eileen and RInna were the ONLY ones to question whether or not it was on purpose - based on Ericka's alter ego's stage persona.

[Happy Camper]

15 minutes ago, MatildaMoody said:

 

I feel like this should be clarified. We never saw PK leering. What we saw was Ericka announcing that she wasn't wearing while 4 people sitting opposite from her could and did see. Then, the only person who implied and outright mocked her for doing it on purpose was Eileen Davidson. When PK and Doris did their scripted bit in the kitchen discussing the evening before, they both made a point to say the flash was accidental. When Dorit went to the other women to talk about the "joke" she wanted to play, she made sure to clarify that she knew it was an accident and that's why she thought the "joke" would be funny. Eileen and RInna were the ONLY ones to question whether or not it was on purpose - based on Ericka's alter ego's stage persona.

This is my recollection as well. It just kept getting twisted around and then Erika ran with it. 

Eileen and Rinna got away with that one!

[lunastartron]

3 hours ago, MatildaMoody said:

 

I feel like this should be clarified. We never saw PK leering. What we saw was Ericka announcing that she wasn't wearing while 4 people sitting opposite from her could and did see. Then, the only person who implied and outright mocked her for doing it on purpose was Eileen Davidson. When PK and Doris did their scripted bit in the kitchen discussing the evening before, they both made a point to say the flash was accidental. When Dorit went to the other women to talk about the "joke" she wanted to play, she made sure to clarify that she knew it was an accident and that's why she thought the "joke" would be funny. Eileen and RInna were the ONLY ones to question whether or not it was on purpose - based on Ericka's alter ego's stage persona.

In the private discussion that Dorit and PK had in their kitchen, PK did make an offhand remark "maybe Erika's bits are available to the world."

That still does not explain Erika's histrionics about Tom and his associates hearing/believing that she intentionally attempted to seduce anyone since the dialogue was limited to Dorit and her husband. 

Eileen was also the person who brought up the subject repeatedly and consistently after Dorit and Erika high-fived at lunch. 

[HunterHunted]

On 12/23/2017 at 6:17 PM, MatildaMoody said:

I feel like this should be clarified. We never saw PK leering. What we saw was Ericka announcing that she wasn't wearing while 4 people sitting opposite from her could and did see. Then, the only person who implied and outright mocked her for doing it on purpose was Eileen Davidson. When PK and Doris did their scripted bit in the kitchen discussing the evening before, they both made a point to say the flash was accidental. When Dorit went to the other women to talk about the "joke" she wanted to play, she made sure to clarify that she knew it was an accident and that's why she thought the "joke" would be funny. Eileen and RInna were the ONLY ones to question whether or not it was on purpose - based on Ericka's alter ego's stage persona.

I actually agree with you, but Erika is never going to concede that PK wasn't leering or that her crappy friends were the first to suggest that she intentionally flashed people. I figure PK saying his looking turned to leering was the sort of thing he'd have to admit to in order to squash this nonsense beef.

Edited December 26, 2017 by HunterHunted

[AntAnn]

On 12/19/2017 at 4:55 PM, Happy Camper said:

Enough of Erika Jayne.

I would be much more interested in learning more about Erika Girardi. Can we see more of her?

Hope so. 

I agree, she was fun for a hot minute, now just YAWN. I did like her and do hope there is more to her.

[film noire]

On 12/19/2017 at 9:02 AM, Happy Camper said:

 

 

WTF is up with this  "Henry Tudor's Seventh Wife: Methinks I'm Hawt" look? 

 

On 12/19/2017 at 3:58 AM, lunastartron said:

From my perspective, Erika Jayne has very little to do with autonomous, bossy women; it's a crassly drawn fantasy and parody. 

I agree. I also think the Jayne persona lacks all joy - her schtick is calculated and measured and dry-as-sand.  She's no happy (public) vulgarian, glorying in boundary-breaking (frex Mae West) she's a sad little mouse of a thing desperate for attention. And her "act" lacks any mental energy (which this kind of performance needs, imo,  to not feel like a late afternoon shift at Scores). She's all tit, no wit. 

Edited December 24, 2017 by film noire

[TurtlePower]

On 12/24/2017 at 0:34 AM, film noire said:

 

WTF is up with this  "Henry Tudor's Seventh Wife: Methinks I'm Hawt" look? 

 

I agree. I also think the Jayne persona lacks all joy - her schtick is calculated and measured and dry-as-sand.  She's no happy (public) vulgarian, glorying in boundary-breaking (frex Mae West) she's a sad little mouse of a thing desperate for attention. And her "act" lacks any mental energy (which this kind of performance needs, imo,  to not feel like a late afternoon shift at Scores). She's all tit, no wit. 

This. I used to be somewhat like this when I was younger working as a dancer. It was all about glam, looks/appearance. I did just about anything for attention and anyone who criticized me I labeled as "jealous". No, it turns out I was a shallow, defensive ass who had a lot of introspection and growing up to do (and relationships to repair, some of which are still damaged).

Erika is compensating for something by using her wall of glam and defensiveness. She's become meaner and her behavior more superior as the seasons progress. At first I liked her--she seemed like she was being real--now I just see a shallow attention seeker. People will turn their backs on her, I know because it happened to me. You can only deal with a "you're-just-jealous" saying narcissist for so long and as mentioned above, when people are alienated in this way, the relationship may never recover. "Oh yeah, I remember you. You became a real bitch." They won't care why (whatever boo-hoo story you have under there), just that you were. Something for her to think about.