GreatKazu December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 Did you all watch this crap? Of course you did. lol As much as I can't stand Farrah, I give major, MAJOR eye roll at the producers and the crew who continue to allow themselves to be involved with this mess that is known as Farrah. Sure Farrah was being a major ass by not doing anything to keep her daughter from going to the deep end of the pool, but it was the producer's parent's home. Can you imagine if something bad had happened to Sophia in the pool? Farrah would not be at fault. Was it necessary to film Sophia swimming? Is Farrah's life so dull that they didn't have other footage to film that didn't put Sophia's life in jeopardy? Surely there is other shit going on in her life. After all, she is only doing this shit show when she is getting paid the big bucks elsewhere. The boyfriend? He too gets major eye roll simply because he chooses to be with Farrah and likely enjoys the "benefits" he gets by having her as a girlfriend. What dude? No other girl gives you anal? Watching him tolerate her behavior and attitude, it is no wonder why Farrah is allowed to be Farrah with so many people around her who can't just tell her to "fuck off". That producer, Heather? She might as well be licking Farrah's butt-hole because her nose is always right up Farrah's butt. 10 Link to comment
SeenYouWitKieffah December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 I haven't seen this special yet but I got the gist of it from comments on teenmomjunkies. I can't wait for Sophia's eventual Mommie Dearest memoir! Like, the Farrah stuff I'm hearing (making the crew bring their own portapotty, Sophia frantically cleaning up after adults to avoid Farrah's wrath) could be a Joan Crawford homage/parody!! I will watch the special eventually but I'm gonna need to have a few drinks before seeing Catelynn's scenes. I know she's not perfect, lazy, whatever, but I just feel so sad for her and her revolving door of pain - April, Butch, adoption, the hot-cold relationship with Tyler, parenting with a guy who IMO seems the type to not do "woman's work" like cleaning, cooking or nurturing. 4 Link to comment
alexa December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 I thought Amber looked so pretty in this episode. Amazing difference from in the past. I thought most of them came off well in this episode, with the exception of Farrah, of course. She is just so rude to everyone. She acts like the MTV producers are bothering her, while forgetting this is her actual job. If she doesn't need it, she could quit, after all. I know there are a lot of people here that don't like Macy, and I can understand why, but I do really think she gets along well with her producers and they really like her. Granted she hasn't had a ton of drama in the same way as Amber and Farrah so it makes sense. 3 Link to comment
Dsnygrl35 December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 I am sure Heather is relieved every time she gets to leave Farrah and go to Maci or whichever other one she is sent to. Eventually Farrah's behavior will come back and bite her, but until that happens she will continue to be a bitter shrew. With her attitude she will have a hard time finding someone that wants to marry her. she has zero self awareness. Trying to run over a person on her crew because he was trying to get a number to her agent due to the illegal use of the logo speaks volumes. It also spoke volumes that her manager felt that they had to use the company logo to promote the event. If it wasn't legal to do so, and the manager thought they could draw a crowd without it, they wouldn't have used it. I actually liked the segments with the other girls. They truly have fun with the crew and treat them as family. 5 Link to comment
Vandy10 December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 I'm trying to figure out if Heather actually considers Farrah a friend, like she said, or if she's just really committed to her job and acts like Farrah's friend for the show. I mean, my friends and I joke in ways that would probably seem harsh to outsiders, but even we would not tolerate being talked to the way Farrah talked to Heather. I feel really sad for Amber that she was confronted with the Skeeze's lies right on camera by Gary. It's info she should know, and that Skeeze should've told her long ago, but in front of the cameras Gary? It's stuff like this that sours me on Gary. He definitely stepped up and has been a good dad to Leah, especially when Amber couldn't be a parent. But his downfall is that he is addicted to mind-fucking Amber whenever possible. And in the long run, screwing with your child's other parent just hurts the child. 7 Link to comment
qtpye December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 I'm trying to figure out if Heather actually considers Farrah a friend, like she said, or if she's just really committed to her job and acts like Farrah's friend for the show. I mean, my friends and I joke in ways that would probably seem harsh to outsiders, but even we would not tolerate being talked to the way Farrah talked to Heather. Oh, I don't even have to think about this one..Heather gets paid very well to tolerate Farrah. With Farrah you either worship the ground she walks on or you are jealous of her, because why else would anyone not like her. I honestly think Farrah divides the world into these two categories. Heather understands how to be a "Farrah Whisperer" and that is why she gets paid the big bucks. 5 Link to comment
poopchute December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 So the crew can't use the bathroom in Farrah's house. Or wear shoes. She is an absolute delight. 6 Link to comment
kdl88 December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 (edited) How does Farrah exist in the world, behaving like that? People enabling that behavior - MTV - are a huge part of the problem, because she still manages to have a "job" and income despite being an absolute monster. In no other workplace could you behave like that. Also, doesn't it feel shitty to be raging and angry almost literally all the time? I wouldn't have the energy, even if I wanted to be a total asshole. ETA: Also, the odds of Sophia turning into an asshole adult are pretty high with Farrah as her role model. It's sad. Edited December 29, 2015 by kdl88 11 Link to comment
teapot December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 So the crew can't use the bathroom in Farrah's house. Or wear shoes. She is an absolute delight. and how about when Sophia told her there were footprints on the floor, she said "well someone was wearing their f'ing shoes" or something like that? I know that's the way we all talk to our six-year-olds, am I right?? in other news, Amber's hair was giving me Khloe Kardashian realness. 6 Link to comment
Vandy10 December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 Oh, I don't even have to think about this one..Heather gets paid very well to tolerate Farrah. With Farrah you either worship the ground she walks on or you are jealous of her, because why else would anyone not like her. I honestly think Farrah divides the world into these two categories. Heather understands how to be a "Farrah Whisperer" and that is why she gets paid the big bucks. I really hope you're right. Because if Heather thinks that's what a real friendship is like, I would have to question all of her relationships. 2 Link to comment
Jellowslr December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 <--------- I CAN'T STAND FARRAH! What a sense of entitlement.....making the crew use a porta potty? wtf. Please let me run into her someday pulling that holier than thou crap. I would love to have some words with that nightmare. Poor Sophia. 4 Link to comment
Elizabeth9 December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 With a porta-potty in the yard, the opportunity exists to trap Farrah in it and then roll it over a hill. If I was on the crew, this would be my personal mission in life. I feel terrible for Sophia. She's just a child, she can't help the way she is. Like all children, she mimics the behavior she sees in the adults around her. Plus, she's constantly over indulged and has no boundaries. I honestly believe she will be worse than Farrah. No way was Debra a worse mom and role model than Farrah. Since Sophia isn't grown yet, I can safely say no one is worse than Farrah at this point in time. 9 Link to comment
Tatum December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 (edited) With a porta-potty in the yard, the opportunity exists to trap Farrah in it and then roll it over a hill. If I was on the crew, this would be my personal mission in life. OMG they would get fired for that (and possibly sued and/or arrested), but if you ask me, it would be well worth it. The logistics though of getting Farrah anywhere near that porta potty are pretty grim. We should all brainstorm and then tweet our best ideas to the production staff. Anyone with a twitter account want to be our spokesperson? ETA: on second thought, the Twitter account had better be a dummy account. You know Farrah's going to have some gibberish hashtagging going on when she catches wind of this and probably no one wants Farrah's ramblings on their own twitter account. Edited December 29, 2015 by Tatum 1 Link to comment
alexa December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 I totally agree...poor Sophia. She has some major challenges to grow up with when you consider Farrah and Farrah's mom. It will take a miracle for her to overcome all of that! As for the shoes and bathroom thing, I can kind of understand. On the one hand, these people are in the home a lot, and you get to know them so they aren't like strangers. On the other hand, having so many people in your house using your bathroom and other things would get a bit tiresome. And some people like things to be a certain level of clean in their home. Not everyone likes people wearing shoes in the home because they don't wear shoes, etc. That said, I am not excusing Farrah in particular because she is downright mean about it. But if she had set up the rules and expectations in a nicer and more understandable way, I could understand it. Link to comment
qtpye December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 I feel terrible for Sophia. She's just a child, she can't help the way she is. Like all children, she mimics the behavior she sees in the adults around her. Plus, she's constantly over indulged and has no boundaries. I honestly believe she will be worse than Farrah. No way was Debra a worse mom and role model than Farrah. Since Sophia isn't grown yet, I can safely say no one is worse than Farrah at this point in time. Debra, for all her crazy faults, has some honest to goodness accomplishments under her belt. We know that Farrah is the Teen Mom that came from the most privileged background money wise, with the exception of Chelsea from TM2. Farrah has not done anything of merit. I will not call being a porn star an accomplishment, because Farrah does not admit to ever doing a porn in the first place. Also, Sophia is growing up on reality t.v. and I do not think that is a healthy thing, overall. However, growing up on reality t.v. with Farrah as your mother is a sure fire recipe for disaster. 4 Link to comment
KarenClassic December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 I don't know about you, but I would prefer to have strangers use my bathroom (though, they aren't really strangers) then have a portapotty in my front yard for an extended period of time. I bet you could have MTV pay for extra maid service or something. 5 Link to comment
Maharincess December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 I loved how they all laughed at her after the scene with the producer not shutting her door. I wish they'd laugh in her face during one of her bitchy rants. People like her think they're intimidating when they do shit like that, it drives them insane if they think people don't take their rants seriously. If I were them, every time she started, I'd just start laughing. 9 Link to comment
leighroda December 29, 2015 Share December 29, 2015 I can understand requesting people take off their shoes, or wear those bootie things over their shoes, whether they just want to keep clean or some people it's necessary for shoes to not be worn inside due to allergies... But the difference is that she is a raging bitch about it, and it seems to be more of a power play vs cleanliness... Like its a little dig to make sure they know they are her turf. The bathroom thing is definitely a power play and in my opinion a dumb one, her house is huge so it's not like they would actually using her personal bathroom... I feel like she would be better off designating a bathroom in her house for crew and maybe make them responsible for cleaning it or something than have a port a potty in her yard, I'm guessing she thinks the port a potty makes her look important or something. 7 Link to comment
GreatKazu December 29, 2015 Author Share December 29, 2015 Heather is definitely not Farrah's friend. If she is, that is one whacked friendship because it is one-sided. Heather is getting paid to deal with Farrah. As long as MTV continues to want this character on their show, Heather and Kiki need to bite their tongues and just deal with what is thrown their way. It is their job and it is what they get paid for. I feel really sad for Amber that she was confronted with the Skeeze's lies right on camera by Gary. It's info she should know, and that Skeeze should've told her long ago, but in front of the cameras Gary? It's stuff like this that sours me on Gary. I can't assume too much from that scene only because there isn't enough information to go on. I wouldn't mind Gary informing Amber of what a scuzzball her new love is only because his daughter has to be around that douchebag. Leah has no choice what guy her mother brings around her. As for happening in front of the cameras, I don't know yet if Gary attempted to talk to Amber about Gary before that scene, and Amber shut him down. There have been plenty of scenes where Gary has tried to talk to Amber and she quickly shuts the conversation down because Amber doesn't want to hear it. She walks away, cussing out Gary, throwing things in his face, it just never ends well when these two ever try to have a conversation. Amber seems to be hyper-sensitive about any comment she perceives to be criticism. Amber may have avoided speaking with Gary. With the cameras around, Amber has no choice but to interact with Gary because it is what the show requires. By then, he likely had the information to prove to Amber what that douchebag was lying about. If Amber really doesn't want to hear anything about her man, she should be more careful about what kind of guys she brings around her daughter. Maci - Why does she have a photo of herself and Ryyyyyyan on her phone? 5 Link to comment
Madison Bumgarner December 30, 2015 Share December 30, 2015 Like I mentioned in the Farrah thread, why do they even film her? She's unbearable! Nobody is watching the show for that no talent ass clown. From the previews I've seen, it seems that Sophia is turning into her already. Although it's incredibly sad that Farrah is telling her 6 year old that she's selfish, immature and only thinks of herself. SHE'S SIX! 3 Link to comment
evilmindatwork December 30, 2015 Share December 30, 2015 (edited) Is Amber the only one with a body guard? I feel like Farrah has often been physically violent too. The other girls seem to have crew members who care about them whereas Farrah's crew genuinely seems to hate her. I definitely don't like shoes in my house and my guests take their shoes off because they know I do too but there are ways to ask people to do that without being rude. Edited December 30, 2015 by evilmindatwork 3 Link to comment
Elizabeth9 December 30, 2015 Share December 30, 2015 I don't know about you, but I would prefer to have strangers use my bathroom (though, they aren't really strangers) then have a portapotty in my front yard for an extended period of time. I bet you could have MTV pay for extra maid service or something. I know right? Like I mentioned in the Farrah thread, why do they even film her? She's unbearable! Nobody is watching the show for that no talent ass clown. From the previews I've seen, it seems that Sophia is turning into her already. Although it's incredibly sad that Farrah is telling her 6 year old that she's selfish, immature and only thinks of herself. SHE'S SIX! GEE I WONDER WHERE SHE GETS IT FROM FARRAH?! 4 Link to comment
lidarose9 December 30, 2015 Share December 30, 2015 (edited) I actually turned this off 10 minutes before the end cuz I just couldn't take anymore. I am OK with Maci most of the time, and Catelyn kinda breaks my heart cuz she's so persistently sweet in spite of her fucked up family. Amber is always one step away from a raging meltdown, in spite of her acting like she's put all that in the past. And I really can't bear to subject my poor eyes and brain to any more Farrah, even when it's making fun of her. I keep thinking of that innocent child who is being shaped by this sick relationship between MTV and her mother. Farrah would be a line cook in an Olive Garden or a nail artist in a mall if not for MTV. (Not that there's anything wrong with being a cook or a nail artist. But her scope of awfulness would be much smaller without the money MTV throws at her.) Edited December 30, 2015 by lidarose9 3 Link to comment
MyPeopleAreNordic December 30, 2015 Share December 30, 2015 I feel really sad for Amber that she was confronted with the Skeeze's lies right on camera by Gary. It's info she should know, and that Skeeze should've told her long ago, but in front of the cameras Gary? It's stuff like this that sours me on Gary. He definitely stepped up and has been a good dad to Leah, especially when Amber couldn't be a parent. But his downfall is that he is addicted to mind-fucking Amber whenever possible. And in the long run, screwing with your child's other parent just hurts the child. I feel bad Amber got cornered on camera about Matt's lies BUT if I was Gary, no way in hell would I want to have that conversation with Amber without cameras and witnesses around. As others have said, having the cameras there did mean she couldn't just walk away or refuse to listen BUT it also meant she had to keep any freak out she might have & take out on Gary under control. 8 Link to comment
truelovekiss December 31, 2015 Share December 31, 2015 I feel bad Amber got cornered on camera about Matt's lies BUT if I was Gary, no way in hell would I want to have that conversation with Amber without cameras and witnesses around. As others have said, having the cameras there did mean she couldn't just walk away or refuse to listen BUT it also meant she had to keep any freak out she might have & take out on Gary under control. Exactly. If I was Gary, I would want the world to know exactly what kind of guy Matt is, because if Amber's love for her daughter isn't enough, maybe public opinion will shame her into leaving him. Except that hasn't worked either. 5 Link to comment
GreatKazu December 31, 2015 Author Share December 31, 2015 (edited) I also think since Amber is so "proud" to show off her man on camera, have him move in so quickly, and be engaged to him, then he is not only fair game to the viewers, but to the guy who is the father of Amber's child. Amber should be prepared to be called out for the guy she is with because she continuously chooses to be on this show WITH HIM FRONT AND CENTER, instead of establishing her lazy ass into some kind of job or career where her focus should be. Not sitting her butt on her couch 24/7. If it wasn't Gary, someone else would have pointed out the truth to Amber eventually. Edited December 31, 2015 by GreatKazu 8 Link to comment
FozzyBear December 31, 2015 Share December 31, 2015 I don't trust Matt as far as I can throw him. And I don't think he's conning Amber, I just think Amber doesn't care who she brings around Leah. Matt could have a conviction for sexual assault and Amber would still let him take care of Leah. 6 Link to comment
Maharincess December 31, 2015 Share December 31, 2015 I feel bad Amber got cornered on camera about Matt's lies BUT if I was Gary, no way in hell would I want to have that conversation with Amber without cameras and witnesses around. As others have said, having the cameras there did mean she couldn't just walk away or refuse to listen BUT it also meant she had to keep any freak out she might have & take out on Gary under control. I don't feel bad for Amber at all. This is what happens when you sell your life and your privacy to reality TV for money. If she doesn't want to be confronted on camera, she can always get off of TV. I'm sure this job is the only way she can make money from her couch though. 5 Link to comment
Vandy10 December 31, 2015 Share December 31, 2015 Don't get me wrong, I don't think Amber's great or anything. I'm just one of those people who catches second-hand embarrassment very easily. So when Amber hesitantly answered "two" to Gary's question, I was doing some major cringing. 5 Link to comment
FairyDusted December 31, 2015 Share December 31, 2015 I don't trust Matt as far as I can throw him. And I don't think he's conning Amber, I just think Amber doesn't care who she brings around Leah. Matt could have a conviction for sexual assault and Amber would still let him take care of Leah. Yes. Cuz it's all about Amber and her 9 inch lashes. 2 Link to comment
Lemons January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 I watched the first 15 minutes or so but cancelled the series on my DVR. I can't stand to watch the hideously ugly Farrah and her homely kid prance around treating people like trash. I thought Teem Mom 2 was coming on this month, not the first one? 3 Link to comment
Tatum January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 I think TM2 is not on until this summer. Pretty sure they are currently filming. Link to comment
Shelby January 4, 2016 Share January 4, 2016 I tried to watch this, but I FFd through almost all of it. I have no interest in Catelynn's seemingly loveless marriage. Maci's stupid, loser boyfriend has such a gross beard that I can't look at the screen when he's on. Amber's creeper boyfriend is also too icky to look at with those teeth. Amber, the boyfriend and Gary all just look like they smell so bad. I'm not tuning in for that bitch Farrah or her ugly monster of a kid. I'm done with this show and cancelled it on Tivo. 3 Link to comment
missy jo January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 I don't feel bad for Amber at all. This is what happens when you sell your life and your privacy to reality TV for money. If she doesn't want to be confronted on camera, she can always get off of TV. And she can miss me with being shy in public and throwing tantrums in restaurants. Having a giant camera crew* following you around tends to attract attention. She's such an asshole. On another note, Kiki the producer has no boundaries whatsoever. Yes, you should get along with the talent for the sake of cooperation and a seamless production, but she's way too involved in their personal lives. *The crews are even larger than I thought! 1 Link to comment
MyPeopleAreNordic January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 Don't get me wrong, I don't think Amber's great or anything. I'm just one of those people who catches second-hand embarrassment very easily. So when Amber hesitantly answered "two" to Gary's question, I was doing some major cringing. Thank you for better expressing what I meant when I said I feel sorry for her. It's not real pity, it's more like embarrassment by proxy. 1 Link to comment
mittsigirl January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 So the crew can't use the bathroom in Farrah's house. Or wear shoes. She is an absolute delight. That porta-potty outside her house was so ridiculous! Didn't she have a half-bath near the entrance, or one downstairs the crew could have used? Why not in the back of the house, where no one would have to see how cray cray she is? Link to comment
beesknees January 5, 2016 Share January 5, 2016 I totally agree...poor Sophia. She has some major challenges to grow up with when you consider Farrah and Farrah's mom. It will take a miracle for her to overcome all of that! As for the shoes and bathroom thing, I can kind of understand. On the one hand, these people are in the home a lot, and you get to know them so they aren't like strangers. On the other hand, having so many people in your house using your bathroom and other things would get a bit tiresome. And some people like things to be a certain level of clean in their home. Not everyone likes people wearing shoes in the home because they don't wear shoes, etc. That said, I am not excusing Farrah in particular because she is downright mean about it. But if she had set up the rules and expectations in a nicer and more understandable way, I could understand it. Good Gordon. No guest bathroom in Farrah's big house? Really? Link to comment
MelineB13 January 6, 2016 Share January 6, 2016 I'm trying to figure out if Heather actually considers Farrah a friend, like she said, or if she's just really committed to her job and acts like Farrah's friend for the show. She reminds me a lot of the lead producer on that show UnReal. Like everyone on the cast thinks she's their best friend and she knows to say all the right things, but in the end, she has a show to produce and is just doing her job. That being said, I hope she gets hazard pay for her Farrah shoots. 2 Link to comment
evilmindatwork February 4, 2016 Share February 4, 2016 Not sure if anyone has posted this before but this an interesting interview producer Larry Musknik, a.k.a, the guy who got yelled at by Farrah. http://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/tv/q-and-a/a41022/teen-mom-og-producer-larry-musnik-interview/ 5 Link to comment
Maharincess February 5, 2016 Share February 5, 2016 Thanks for the link, it was really interesting to read. 3 Link to comment
NikSac March 22, 2016 Share March 22, 2016 Oh my - was this behind the scenes about the After Show filming linked here before? I don't remember seeing it if so, but this was from The Ashley: http://theashleysrealityroundup.com/2015/12/14/breakdowns-walk-offs-ivs-behind-the-scenes-of-the-teen-mom-og-after-show-taping-exclusive/ This picture certainly erased any doubt I had that maybe Maci really didn't know she's was pregnant at the time. 2 Link to comment
GreatKazu March 22, 2016 Author Share March 22, 2016 Yep, that just shows what a fucking, lying bitch Maci is and how far MTV is willing to accommodate her lies. I never believed her bullshit. 3 Link to comment
CofCinci March 22, 2016 Share March 22, 2016 Oh my - was this behind the scenes about the After Show filming linked here before? I don't remember seeing it if so, but this was from The Ashley: http://theashleysrealityroundup.com/2015/12/14/breakdowns-walk-offs-ivs-behind-the-scenes-of-the-teen-mom-og-after-show-taping-exclusive/ This picture certainly erased any doubt I had that maybe Maci really didn't know she's was pregnant at the time. I think that's an older photo. 1 Link to comment
Pdxblonde March 22, 2016 Share March 22, 2016 It's an older photo because Amber was blonde at the last reunion 3 Link to comment
NikSac March 22, 2016 Share March 22, 2016 I think that's an older photo. Oh hmm. Sneaky of them to use that pic for the article, in that case. 1 Link to comment
GreatKazu December 5, 2016 Author Share December 5, 2016 (edited) Did anyone catch the TM special that just aired? It is called 100 Things About Teen Mom. They talked about first impressions about one another. Farrah said Cate was nosy. Maci is short and little. Regarding Amber, she described her as "not welcoming and had issues". Amber responded Farrah must be confused because she had her own issues. Cate said she would want Rachel McAdams to play her if a TMOG movie was ever made. lol Edited December 5, 2016 by GreatKazu 5 Link to comment
Mischievious December 5, 2016 Share December 5, 2016 Spoiler I watched it. Definitely stupid but I laughed so much. Their personalities really "shined" times 10. There is absolutely no love between Cate and Farrah. 2 Link to comment
mamadrama December 5, 2016 Share December 5, 2016 That special had me cracking up. Farrah's answers were the best. Those girls have some major issues with her. I think they came across as mean girls a bit. I mean, Farrah is a hateful person but they all seemed to be a little preoccupied with it. Well, except for Maci. It felt like she was trying to do her best to give diplomatic answers. Farrah was playing a part in those interviews. While I believe her answers were honest, in a sense, I also think she has a better understanding of "branding." If Amber and Cate really want to continue on in the entertainment field, they could stand some training in that area. It would do them well to come across as more diplomatic and professional-and to have actual personalities. Even the "mean" reality stars have some kind of schtick. Amber's meanness and attitude is just all over the place. If they desire these entertainment careers, they have to learn to play this game better; simply gossiping and making spiteful remarks about one another isn't going to cut it. At least throw some wit in there. Maybe that should be my new job. I will coach these losers on how to be better reality TV bitches. 12 Link to comment
eskimo December 5, 2016 Share December 5, 2016 I was surprised to hear Farrah say that she doesn't believe in having tattoos on her body. Out of all the horrible ways she has disfigured herself and she doesn't believe in tattoos? I mean it's one thing to say she doesn't want one, but the whole 'doesn't believe in' them phrase has me confused. This reminds me, and maybe someone can help refresh my memory, but a long time ago Debra was saying that something was against her religion. I think it had to do with her hair maybe. But then look at what she's done to her face! She can't even move it. What the hell ever, ladies. 6 Link to comment
Katt December 5, 2016 Share December 5, 2016 The cheek of Ambien shit talking about Farrah having her tits hanging out! 4 Link to comment
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