DebbieM4 December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 (edited) That is up to them. It is not Kyle's job to make everyone feel good. Unfortunately she thinks she has to do this, that is the problem here. Obligation. If we had to think of every contingent component in our life that may react to our decisions we would go nuts. We only have control over our own lives and reactions to what comes our way. We are not responsible for anyone else. Ever No, not everyone. But why should Portia not grow up surrounded by cousins who love her? Not everyone involved in this are adults. Portia was asked to be a flower girl in her cousin's wedding, and she wanted to do it. Her other girls have good cousin relationships. And Kyle has her own relationships with her nieces and nephews. Just because Kathy is being a jerk and doesn't care about destroying relationships doesn't mean that Kyle shouldn't want to preserve as much as she can. Not in a martyr kind of way, but because she (unlike apparently Kathy & Kim) has actual, real affection & love for members of her extended family, and she wants to keep those relationships. For her sake as much as theirs. I also think she wanted to be at this wedding, and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm sure that Kyle & Mauricio discussed this, and I'm sure Kyle would not have gone unless they had decided together that it was the better thing to do. The whole situation is messed up for sure, but I completely understand why they made the decision they did. Edited December 9, 2015 by DebbieM4 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787397
WireWrap December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 No, not everyone. But why should Portia not grow up surrounded by cousins who love her? Not everyone involved in this are adults. Portia was asked to be a flower girl in her cousin's wedding, and she wanted to do it. Her other girls have good cousin relationships. And Kyle has her own relationships with her nieces and nephews. Just because Kathy is being a jerk and doesn't care about destroying relationships doesn't mean that Kyle shouldn't want to preserve as much as she can. Not in a martyr kind of way, but because she (unlike apparently Kathy & Kim) has actual, real affection & love for members of her extended family. and she wants to keep those relationships. For her sake as much as theirs. I also think she wanted to be at this wedding, and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm sure that Kyle & Mauricio discussed this, and I'm sure Kyle would not have gone unless they had decided together that it was the better thing to do. The whole situation is messed up for sure, but I completely understand why they made the decision they did. Kye said that Mauricio TOLD her to go, I don't think she was going without him and he told her she should go....for Nicki. In no way do I think this was Nicki's choice, she is close to Kyle, IMO, ths is ALL Kathy/Rick's doing. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787422
st.louielouie December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 I liked this episode! This is the type of show I wanted - they make their own drama and it was enough. Did Mauricio state he wasn't invited - I am wondering if he wasn't going because his girls (who weren't invited and one was an adult so I am not buying the no children) were going to be in a different country left in a hotel. I think he is a good father and involved with his girls and I could see him saying - hey, you go it is your family but I will hang out with the girls. Also, if they include a member of the family in the wedding party the entire family should be invited - etiquette wise. You never say - hey, I want your 6 year old but she can't have her parents there. I don't know how I feel about Taylor being back but I prefer her over Kim. I just wish Joyce was back - I think we would see some real parties - not just her over the top crazy dresses. I loved how she felt about her husband and boys. Whose husband just shows up for one minute while you are having your teeth pulled??? That was just bizarre - either don't show up or stay otherwise you kind of look like a jackass - which he did. I think Kyle was hitting on something discussing the depression thing. I loved the car porn - fantastic! 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787424
Popular Post Giselle December 9, 2015 Popular Post Share December 9, 2015 Poor Yo-Yo should be most worried about the 5'10" parasite that crawled up her ass...Brandi. 35 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787427
Chicago85 December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 (edited) Maybe Yo ingested a parasite in one of the many different countries she visited to receive treatment not approved by the FDA. That's one way for an all-natural cleanse. Interesting insight (!) from Kyle about depression manifesting into physical pains. I had some severe post partum anxiety and insomnia that literally took over my body for a couple months and left me feeling hopeless and physically unable to do a lot of things. Maybe Yo had the Lymes and "it" spiraled out of control into more symptoms when her and King David began having problems and she just doesn't view it as depression. On a shallow note, Mauricio looked damn good driving the Ferrari Edited December 9, 2015 by Chicago85 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787429
breezy424 December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 So Yo called in to WWHL. According to Yo, she hasn't touched make up in a year. I have a feeling that ZM, our expert on things like this will show proof about my doubts. She also, IMO, pretty much said that breakup was about her chronic illness. As much as I don't care for David, I don't know how much I could take Yo's absurb journey through her illness. And now she has 60% brain function? Well, I have a feeling that Yo is going to make a 'significant' recovery now that she's going to be single again and no doubt looking for the next husband. Because in Yo's mind, that's the priority now. She couldn't save her marriage or get the devotion she expected from David. And that 60% brain function has helped her realize that her children are only going to do so much for mom and her illness. I really hope we're not going down a Brooks 2.0 this season; And the previews of the new housewife? Seriously? More scenes of fun stuff with the five housewives. We don't need to see a cheap double life. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787447
WireWrap December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 I liked this episode! This is the type of show I wanted - they make their own drama and it was enough. Did Mauricio state he wasn't invited - I am wondering if he wasn't going because his girls (who weren't invited and one was an adult so I am not buying the no children) were going to be in a different country left in a hotel. I think he is a good father and involved with his girls and I could see him saying - hey, you go it is your family but I will hang out with the girls. Also, if they include a member of the family in the wedding party the entire family should be invited - etiquette wise. You never say - hey, I want your 6 year old but she can't have her parents there. I don't know how I feel about Taylor being back but I prefer her over Kim. I just wish Joyce was back - I think we would see some real parties - not just her over the top crazy dresses. I loved how she felt about her husband and boys. Whose husband just shows up for one minute while you are having your teeth pulled??? That was just bizarre - either don't show up or stay otherwise you kind of look like a jackass - which he did. I think Kyle was hitting on something discussing the depression thing. I loved the car porn - fantastic! Mauricio DID say that he was NOT invited to the wedding. I think he told Kyle to go because she and Nicki are close and I also believe it was Kathy/Rick that didn't want him there because Mauricio had the gall to start his own business and make it more successful that Rick's REA. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787451
Medicine Crow December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 There was nothing editing could do to make that dinner in Tuscany look appetizing with the swarm of bugs in every scene. Hilarious. I don't know how everyone "kept calm & carried on". 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787455
Rina99 December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 I really think I'm going to cause myself permanent damage with the amount of eye-rolling I do whenever Yolanda appears on-screen. For real, it felt like they got stuck at one point. Anyways, so far neither Lisa V. or Kyle have, IMO, said anything out of line, and I liked Kyle's insight into how your mind can have a lot do with your physical well-being a lot of the time. Eileen and Vince were sweet, and it made me anxious about whatever's going to come up with them later in the season. Hopefully it isn't as bad as the previews made it look. Normally Lisa V. gets on my nerves, but she's been pretty tolerable so far this season. And I can't get too mad at her for opening the can of worms with regard to Kathy and Rick, because up until now the rumors have been confined to what's been on the message board, and damn do I want more of THAT tea! And to me, Mauricio is at the point of absolutely no fucks to give, because he seemed like he would be MORE than willing to let out how he really feels on-camera, but doesn't because he loves Kyle. Kyle, girl, I guess it's too much to ask you to cut off both Kim and Kathy at the same time. Baby steps. I absolutely believe that she only went because Mauricio insisted. 23 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787458
Kiss my mutt December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 (edited) How does Yo quantify only having 60% of her brain function? The same way she knows she has a two foot tape worm? Edited December 9, 2015 by Kiss my mutt 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787461
sistermagpie December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 (edited) 2 of Kyles daughters ARE over 18 but only 1 is invited and she is IN the wedding as is Portia. The other daughter under 18 is old enough to go to an "adult" only wedding IMO. Too leave out 2 daughters is disgusting IMO and was a calculated slap in the face as is NOT inviting Mauricio. I was seriously trying to figure out how one would even ask for this set up: "Oh hey, this is a wedding without kids so your under 18s can't come. Also we don't want you there. But can we have the 7 year old for a prop? She's a cute flower girl." When you're asking people to a wedding in another country and wanting their young daughter as a flower girl you pretty much have to suck it up and offer invites to all the kids assuming the family will come. Portia's not going to come on her own and Farrah can't babysit her all weekend. I wonder if that's the whole reason Kyle was re-invited. Kyle's stuff about her depression was actually interesting. Big Kathy was enough of a dominating figure I can totally believe she was depressed after she died. Interesting if she really was going to doctors for aches and pains and then considered herself it might be psychological seeing the ad. I know I can't diagnose anybody over the TV (or in real life) but seeing Yolanda's routine really did make me think she'd feel terrible whether or not she had Lyme disease. All those pills and weekly colonics? David's scene was so fake. Her asking if he wasn't glad he married her made me sad. She's like a horse put out to pasture for him now. Even if anybody might be turned off by this thing she's going through, especially if it's for attention, a lot of guys would stick around longer. Ken's scene didn't seem mean to me when I actually saw it. I figure he has joked with Kyle about her "mumus" before. Also, wtf, Yolanda is now casually mentioning huge sci-fi parasites inside her too? This is getting ever more bizarre. I wonder if Kyle really didn't want to say things on camera that would cause problems with the family, like she was trying to get her position out there without having any quotes they could throw back at her. Oh, and where is Yolanda getting her brain function tested so often? She's always got a percentage to give, but her actual personality is always clearly a person functioning mostly normally. I mean, maybe she's got trouble concentrating etc.but I thought 60% brain function would imply a real impairment that would be quite noticeable. Like, depression I believe can interfere greatly with a person's ability to think clearly etc., but I don't know if it's measured in a "my brain is functioning at 78% today" way. Correct me if I'm wrong. Edited December 9, 2015 by sistermagpie 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787471
Popular Post Giselle December 9, 2015 Popular Post Share December 9, 2015 (edited) Yo needs to investigate the healing properties of fresh mountain air and drinking goat's milk. In the Children's story Heidi they cured Clara and she was able to rise out of a wheelchair and walk again. The story didn't mention if it worked on 2 foot long parasites. Does Yo-Yo know about Robert Tilton and Benny Hinn? For a faith offering maybe they could help. Edited December 9, 2015 by Giselle 31 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787473
breezy424 December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 I think she went because Mauricio insisted but I have a feeling a big part of why he insisted was because of Portia wanting to be in the wedding party. I think Kyle would have just pulled her out if she wasn't going to be there. Talk about a screwed up situation for the Hiltons' to put Kyle in. I mean, really. Who asks a six or seven year old to be a flower girl and not invited the child's parents? I have a feeling that's actually why Kyle got reinvited. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787483
Popular Post Giselle December 9, 2015 Popular Post Share December 9, 2015 All I can say is that with that medicine closet Yo-Yo better hope Kim doesn't get wind of it. 29 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787486
bravofan27 December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 I don't think Kyle was ever dis invited. I think they told her it might be best if she didn't come to make a point and let her decide, and then she said she wouldn't go, and then she rethought it and said she would. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787498
SFoster21 December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 (edited) Isn't there some kind of statistic that says we only employ a small percentage of our mental capacity? And what does she mean when she says "brain function"? Are there physical problems from this? Is she unable to experience pain, say? She never seems to make much sense. Edited December 9, 2015 by SFoster21 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787499
WireWrap December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 There was nothing editing could do to make that dinner in Tuscany look appetizing with the swarm of bugs in every scene. Hilarious. I don't know how everyone "kept calm & carried on". I live in the country, so bugs are always present at dinners/outdoor meals, even in the screened gazebo we have. LOL 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787503
Popular Post ScoobieDoobs December 9, 2015 Popular Post Share December 9, 2015 (edited) Oh man, Rinna's dealings with her parents are making me really, really, really hate her -- I mean even worse than I'm hating her this season already. This shit with laughing hysterically at everything she says is bugging the absolute piss outta me. Ah, poor Lisa, right? Her mom ruined her day in BH cuz she informed her that her 90-something father had to go to the hospital. The poor old lady had to deal with this & Lisa didn't know about any of it, until (seemingly) way after it happened. OK then. Any sympathy for Mom from Lisa -- at all? Oh nooooo. Cuz Mom went & ruined poor, poor Lisa's day in BH. The poor thing. Will the new gal or Taylor start smacking Rinna down quick? I can't fucking wait for that. Edited December 9, 2015 by ScoobieDoobs 28 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787513
strongoxman December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 Ugh phony Kyle strikes again: "FIVE?! On a...SATURDAY??" No shit, what other day of the week are open houses held?? You married a realtor you phony baloney. Lisa R was pretty gross bragging about her jewelry and making fun of her parents before calling them. I can see why she and Kyle are such close friends. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787523
Thick McRunFast December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 (edited) Yolanda doesn't understand how fillings work if she thinks they're causing heavy metals to seep into her blood stream. The mountain of supplements and vitamins she takes are probably responsible for whatever is going on with her blood. And speaking of her blood having heavy metals in it, is that even a thing that happens with Lyme disease? Because it sure as heck sounds ... a little ... nuts. I appreciated what Eileen said about Yolanda's medicine closet in relation to her sister who died after "treating" her cancer the alternative medicine route. These ladies need to stop with the colonic talk. There is zero medical benefit to them and they can actual damage your natural digestive process. It's gross. Edited December 9, 2015 by Thick McRunFast 18 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787527
WireWrap December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 Rinna's dealings with her parents are making me really, really, really hate her -- I mean even worse than I'm hating her this season already. This shit with laughing hysterically at everything she says is bugging the absolute piss outta me. Ah, poor, Lisa, right? Her mom ruined her day in BH cuz she said how her 90-something father had to go to the hospital. The poor old lady had to deal with this & Lisa didn't know about any of it, until (seemingly) way after it happened. OK then. Any sympathy for Mom from Lisa -- at all? Oh nooooo. Cuz Mom went & ruined poor, poor Lisa's day in BH. The poor thing. Will one of the new gals or Taylor start smacking Rinna down quick? I can't fucking wait for that. Sometimes parents don't tell their adult kids about health issues. That said, if Lisa called her parents once a week or more, as well as her step sister who helps care for them, she might know WTF is going on in their lives. I talk to my mom every other day, if I can get a hold of her as she is out and about almost every day, she is 80 years old and lives in an assisted living facility. I also take my Grand daughter to see her all the time, as it is important to my mom as well as myself that she gets to know and have a great relationship with her. Lisa doesn't live THAT far away to not visit them several times a year at the very least IMO. Yolanda doesn't understand how fillings work if she thinks they're causing heavy metals to seep into her blood stream. The mountain of supplements and vitamins she takes are probably responsible for whatever is going on with her blood. And speaking of her blood having heavy metals in it, is that even a thing that happens with Lyme disease? Because it sure as heck sounds ... a little ... nuts. I appreciated Eileen said about Yolanda's medicine closet in relation to her sister who died after "treating" her cancer the alternative medicine route. These ladies need to stop with the colonic talk. There is zero medical benefit to them and they can actual damage your natural digestive process. It's gross. Yolanda didn't just have the 'fillings' removed, they pulled her teeth out! I agree, all those suppliments/treatments are where she is getting the heavy metal toxicity from, not her fillings. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787538
Popular Post ScoobieDoobs December 9, 2015 Popular Post Share December 9, 2015 Sometimes parents don't tell their adult kids about health issues. It's one thing if we're talking about silly Millennials & their Gen-X/Boomer parents. But Rinna made it quite clear last year, she left all care of her elderly parents (her mother is 85+ & her father is 92+) to her sister. That Rinna so obviously barely speaks to her elderly parents strikes me as so exceptionally heartless & ugly. She showed us why she doesn't speak to them -- because any conversation with them will ultimately involve discussions of illness & she doesn't want to deal with it -- clearly because it doesn't fit into her BH lifestyle. Blech to this woman, just blech. And no, Rinna, laughing your ass off at everything you say is def not gonna make me think you're charming, cuz I still think you're a heartless asshole in your treatment of your parents. 28 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787562
Popular Post Irritable December 9, 2015 Popular Post Share December 9, 2015 In my daydreams, I guess I imagined spending a crazy fortune on a luxury vacation in Tuscany somehow meant there would be no bugs, especially mosquitos. I would end up being such a huge, whiny baby having to eat outside in the middle of those swarms, and also that the only A/C was in the bedrooms. If I'm renting a mansion with a butler and chef, I expect air conditioning and to eat in a relatively bug-free environment. Sure, it's beautiful outside, but DAMN. The yacht portion of their trip looked like what I would enjoy the most. They could have spent a few more minutes showing me the glorious food. I liked Lisa R. last year, for the most part, but this year I don't. At all. Anything about her that I thought was genuine and likable I now think is part of her schtick, and that she never, ever stops acting. It's also pretty awful that she tells the camera how hard "her parents' situation" is on her, how she WISHES she could see and talk to them more, but she just can't (???), so she tries to get through it by "living in the moment" and making her occasional phone calls really count...and then she is an asshole on the phone to them, plus she is able to just drop everything and go with Lisa to Ohio to buy a fucking pony? Either tell us you adore your parents, and miss them, and worry about them in these times of failing health and melancholy, and then back it up by spending some of the piles of money you have to visit them more often. OR, don't go see them, or call them, or give a shit about them, and just never mention them on camera, ever. I don't recall ever hearing one word about Lisa V.'s parents. Carol on RHNY, same thing about her own parents. I don't think I remember Heather on RHOC discussing her parents. It's certainly possible to be on this franchise and choose not to talk about your family, if you would rather not shine a spotlight on that relationship. I wish Lisa R. would have chosen to just leave that part of her life out of the show, because it makes me sad, the thought of her parents watching all this fake bullshit. 33 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787569
Maharincess December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 I'm sorry - but if you have a double closet filled with more drugs, pills, remedies, etc. than the Rite Aid pharmacy, you have something else going on besides Lyme Disease. I understand and sympathize with Yolanda, but I think she has a lot of mental issues she needs to deal with, aside from her physical problems. Also, seeing all that beautiful food on the boat with Kyle and Mauricio made me think that Chef Leon from Below Deck needs to pack his knives and go home (wow - referencing three Bravo shows in one post...LOL!!). They are really living the life - good for them!! :-) My good friend's husband had a double lung transplant last summer, he takes a lot of medication but he doesn't take even a quarter of what was in Yolanda's closet. LOVE the Bravo references and agree about Leon. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787578
RedheadZombie December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 HELL NO would I ever attend a family wedding in which my husband was not invited. Not only that, but his little girl was a flower girl. I hope Mauricio runs Hilton & Hyland into the ground. I understand what you're saying and would typically agree with you. But I think the difference is, Kyle is trying to set boundaries with her sisters, but remain supportive and active in her nieces' and nephews' lives. Mauricio and Rick have separate issues, and if Mauricio tells Kyle he's fine with her going to the wedding, I don't think Kyle is wrong. I personally believe that Rick is more in the wrong, but Mauricio and Kyle must have both realized what would happen when Mauricio started his own company, and I would imagine that part of the agreement was that Kyle wasn't going to cut off her family. Who knows, maybe Nicky invited Farrah and Portia to be part of her wedding so Kathy couldn't complete shut out Kyle's kids. More and more I think Little Kathy is a mirror image of Big Kathy. Keep secrets no matter how unhealthy it is, keep secrets even if it's damaging your kids, and the rules only apply to the little people. I thought Kyle and Maurico showed remarkable restraint tonight in not telling Lisa and Ken to STFU and mind their own business. Thank God Alexia shut the whole thing down by saying she didn't want to discuss family matters for the rest of the trip. When a friend tells you they don't want to talk about something, you respect their wishes. You don't keep pressing and pressing the issue, especially if you're on a reality show together. It's like Lisa and Ken were fishing for dirt on the Hilton family that they wanted Kyle to reveal on camera. I could not agree more! What was Lisa trying to do there? I don't think Kyle could have been any clearer. I think Lisa wanted to look like a super-friend on camera, but she must realize that everything she says (and Kyle doesn't immediately refute) is going to be blamed on Kyle. I don't believe for a minute that Lisa would allow Kyle to talk negatively about Lisa's family on camera. Eileen, why did you grow out that gorgeous haircut? 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787579
princelina December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 Did she actually have all her teeth out, or did they just remove and replace her crowns? And for me to believe she had a 2-foot parasite, I would have to see it. Which I am NOT asking to do, Bravo! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787583
Giselle December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 She would be a lot healthier in my opinion if she were poorer. If she didn't have all those millions to go chasing after every quack treatment she might in fact have felt better and have been well on her way to becoming healthier. I won't watch a season of her whining and moaning so at least I'll have opportunities to grab a snack when she is on. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787587
rhys December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 Yolanda didn't just have the 'fillings' removed, they pulled her teeth out! I agree, all those suppliments/treatments are where she is getting the heavy metal toxicity from, not her fillings. Are you sure? I thought she was getting white gold crowns along with having her amalgam fillings removed. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787591
breezy424 December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 I don't think Yo had her teeth removed. It was only the 'metal' crowns. That's why the oral surgeon talked about temporaries. It looked like she had crowns on most of her molars, judging from the quick picture we saw of her ex rays. Otherwise, she would have to have implants which involve screws put into her bone which would still involve 'metal'. Sorry for the TMI for those who have dental phobias. I have way too much experience with these things. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787592
80sBaby December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 I was annoyed with Lisa and Ken this episode. I really liked Lisa when this show started. Now, not so much. Kyle did bring up the wedding situation but I don't feel that was reason for Lisa to go on and on and on about it like a dog with a bone. She was out of line and over stepping her boundaries and she knew it. She needed to zip it, especially in front of the children. Ken as usual is a cranky, nasty old windbag. He is one bitchy, bitter hag and I don't find him entertaining at all. Looking forward to seeing him pushed in the pool. There is a mean pettiness about him that is very off putting. When he was making the Mumu comments I actually said "STFU" to my TV. The sight of him doddering along and Lisa teetering in those ridiculously high heels does make me chuckle sometimes. One thing I am enjoying about them so far is not seeing comatose Jiggy. Lisa Rinna continues to be annoying. Her bug eyes and open mouth while exclaiming "Stop it" is tired. She is so inauthentic to me...and nosy. I also think it's time for a new hairstyle. My goodness she has rocked that ugly cut for over 30 yrs. Still love Eileen and happy no Kim or Brandi. Mauricio needs to find a new word besides "Aaamaazing". Kyle should have told Kathy and Nicky to kiss her ass. My whole family isn't invited, then I won't be attending nor will my child be tossing flowers. That was ridiculous. Like previous posters I also noticed what Yolanda did before Lisa R. and Eileen came in. She is milking it but I do believe she is really sick. David couldn't get out of the dentist's office fast enough. I think he is a very superficial man that signed up for a trophy wife to fawn over him while calling him King. Once Yolanda got sick he checked out. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787596
Umbelina December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 Like Kyle would miss a chance to go to a upscale wedding at Kensington Palace...please. She probably called Kathy and said that IF Portia was going to be there, she really needed to be there as well, wouldn't want the little flower girl crying and missing mommy and messing up the ceremony. Lipsa is probably the most vapid, self absorbed, shallow and nasty piece of work on this show, and Kyle is there! Call your parents, visit, fit them in, I can hear her whining at their funerals now, but she can't make the 40 minute flight up to see them occasionally? ugh. Can't stand her. Loved the scenery porn, but wow, Yo's bedroom, not a painting, no flowers, drab beige walls...what a come down from her Malibu estate. I'm shocked it took David this long to dump her. He rivals Lipsa for shallow and vapid. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787598
Popular Post glowbug December 9, 2015 Popular Post Share December 9, 2015 I'm pretty sensitive about the "adult only" wedding topic because my husband and I had an adult only wedding and his family has still not fully recovered from the conflict it caused three years ago. Usually I'm the first one to defend someone's right to have an adult only wedding, and I don't think it's rude not to invite children, but Alexia is in college and if she's not 18, she's pretty close so she qualifies as an adult. Sophia is also old enough to attend an adult only wedding. She can sit through a ceremony without causing a scene, she can be around people drinking, she can stay up until 10 pm or later (depending on noise ordinance laws), etc., all the reasons you don't want a younger child there. There is no way that Alexia and Sophia weren't invited because they were kids. I call bullshit on that. It's also a dick move not inviting Mauricio. There is no way I would have gone if I were Kyle and, frankly, I wouldn't have allowed Portia to be a flower girl unless all of my "of age" children were invited. While I don't blame her for going despite Mauricio not being invited since he gave the go ahead, I do think she's being unfair to Sophia and Alexia by going to the wedding an allowing Portia to go. I don't care if they told her to go too. They are her children and she needs to stick up for them. I like Kyle and I understand she was in a difficult position but I think she made the wrong call on this one. I think Lisa V needs to take a hint and stop talking about the situation in front of the children, but at the same time I don't think what she was saying was wrong. I do think she was trying to bring it up on camera for the sake of the show, but I also believe that she really did believe what she was saying too. I also agree with the posters who thought that Mauricio wanted to talk about it. He looked really pissed off (as he should be) and I think he wants Kathy/Rick/Nicky to be exposed. It's clear that Kyle and her children don't feel the same way and I think it's out of respect for them that he wasn't bringing it up, but her certainly didn't seem upset that Lisa V was pushing the issue. While I don't doubt that Yolanda has something wrong with her, I do think she's also milking her illness for sympathy and attention. I wonder if she likes being doted on and taken care of, especially considering that she feels as though she was parentified after her father died. I'm also not sure if it's chronic Lyme disease or a combination of things like a leaky implant, depression, menopause and side effects from her alternative treatments. I don't blame the others for questioning exactly what she has with her changing her story so many times, or questioning how sick she is when her illness that seems to come and go at opportune times. Her exaggerations and manipulations make it hard for me to know what's real and what isn't when it comes to her illness. Lastly, it was so not cool of Lisa R. to reveal on national television that Amelia has a major crush on Anwar. I felt embarrassment on her daughter's behalf. I would kill my mom if she ever did something like that. 27 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787619
bravofan27 December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 (edited) Isn't there some kind of statistic that says we only employ a small percentage of our mental capacity? We use 100% of our brain. If our brain is injured, then we may have reduced functions, but we would still be using 100% of the brain. Whatever is there, we use it all. I think Yolanda meant that she feels like her brain works 1/2 as well as it used to. It would be impossible to prove that unless she had a fMRI and PET diary spanning years before injury and then after to compare the areas that light up and how much oxygen was in each area compared to now. Edited December 9, 2015 by bravofan27 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787621
DebbieM4 December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 (edited) Like previous posters I also noticed what Yolanda did before Lisa R. and Eileen came in. She is milking it but I do believe she is really sick. David couldn't get out of the dentist's office fast enough. I think he is a very superficial man that signed up for a trophy wife to fawn over him while calling him King. Once Yolanda got sick he checked out. I am not defending David in any way, but I believe he checked out long before she got sick. He wanted a wife, and she wanted fame-by-association. It never looked like a love match to me. Not only zero chemistry, but their interactions were always forced and awkward, and I think they both love themselves too much to form any kind of lasting union with anyone else. He'll go on to the next one, and so will she. And I'm sure that would have happened whether or not Yolanda had health issues. (I believe she's really sick too, but not to anywhere near the extent she claims. I think she's super-comfortable with this new role she has crafted for herself.) JMO! I agree with you about Lisa talking about the wedding in front of Kyle's kids. (I accidentally deleted that part when I quoted you - Sorry!) It was clear that Kyle didn't want to talk about it, but after all she's on a reality show and it had already been mentioned. However, that was a conversation that should have occurred away from the kids. I was very glad when Alexia (I think it was Alexia) shut the whole thing down. And she did it nicely too. Good for her! Like Kyle would miss a chance to go to a upscale wedding at Kensington Palace...please. She probably called Kathy and said that IF Portia was going to be there, she really needed to be there as well, wouldn't want the little flower girl crying and missing mommy and messing up the ceremony. I don't think it's at all unreasonable for the mother of the flower girl to be at the wedding too. Especially in another country. And especially when the bride is the MOFG's niece. Edited December 9, 2015 by DebbieM4 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787636
Popular Post Irritable December 9, 2015 Popular Post Share December 9, 2015 (edited) I forgot to mention how much it irritated me that Yolanda greeted Lisa R. and Eileen with, "You both look so fit and healthy!". That is not how she used to greet the other housewives, it was always, "You look beautiful, I love your dress/shoes/blouse." Now it's, "Hello, you look healthy", and that jumps on my last nerve. Does she really think people don't see through that crap? Stop fishing for everyone to talk about your poor health, that's why they came to see you, they know you are sick, they get it, everyone gets it. Honestly, the way her "health advocate" (WTF? She is a Personal Assistant) who survived Lyme disease* told them about the medicine closet and practically ran to show it to Lisa and Eileen seemed so staged to me, like Yolanda had advised her to find some way to get them to look at it before they left. When closets were mentioned, DING! They said closet! Now I can tell them about the "impressive" pill closet! * I know Lyme disease is horrible, and feel for anyone who has or had it, but people are not dropping dead every 20 minutes from Lyme. I'm not sure it's even correct to say someone "survived" a disease that is not typically fatal, is it? Yolanda is so dramatic that I'm starting to soften my opinion a little about David not sticking around through her illness. Edited December 9, 2015 by Irritable 34 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787643
ScoobieDoobs December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 Boy, Alexia sure isn't Kyle, is she? Kyle relishes every second of being on camera. Alexia always looks very uncomfortable being on the show. When Alexia asked to stop anymore discussion of the wedding, I thought she looked so sad, almost on the verge of crying. It made me sad for her. And I wondered if something else was going on. Wasn't Alexia the one who got bitten so badly by Kingsley? I wonder if there is some tension going on phony baloney Kyle is not letting us in on. Maybe Kathy and/or Kim are blaming Alexia for creating family tensions. OMG, how unfair & awful would that be? Anyhoo, it's just a feeling I got. Alexia looked so upset at the wedding discussion -- almost guilty to me, but maybe I'm projecting. Possible? 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787644
WireWrap December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 Did she actually have all her teeth out, or did they just remove and replace her crowns? And for me to believe she had a 2-foot parasite, I would have to see it. Which I am NOT asking to do, Bravo! Are you sure? I thought she was getting white gold crowns along with having her amalgam fillings removed. I don't think Yo had her teeth removed. It was only the 'metal' crowns. That's why the oral surgeon talked about temporaries. It looked like she had crowns on most of her molars, judging from the quick picture we saw of her ex rays. Otherwise, she would have to have implants which involve screws put into her bone which would still involve 'metal'. Sorry for the TMI for those who have dental phobias. I have way too much experience with these things. Yes, Yolanda had the teeth removed, just the teeth with white gold fillings, NOT just the crowns. She has temporaries while waiting for either partials or dental implants. Watch the scene again, those are dental forceps they are using to pull her tooth when the Dentist tells her "they are almost done", if they were just removing the filling, they would have used a drill. Also, Yolanda has stated she had the teeth pulled. Boy, Alexia sure isn't Kyle, is she? Kyle relishes every second of being on camera. Alexia always looks very uncomfortable being on the show. When Alexia asked to stop anymore discussion of the wedding, I thought she looked so sad, almost on the verge of crying. It made me sad for her. And I wondered if something else was going on. Wasn't Alexia the one who got bitten so badly by Kingsley? I wonder if there is some tension going on phony baloney Kyle is not letting us in on. Maybe Kathy and/or Kim are blaming Alexia for creating family tensions. OMG, how unfair & awful would that be? Anyhoo, it's just a feeling I got. Alexia looked so upset at the wedding discussion -- almost guilty to me, but maybe I'm projecting. Possible? Yes, she was the 1 that was bitten by Kingsley. Also, wasn't she 1 of the 2 girls NOT invited to the wedding? I am sure that being left out, has to hurt and then seeing her other sister and dad not being included has to be a hard, cold slap in the face for her, for all of them. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787656
GreatKazu December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 So, YoFo had a two foot long parasite removed from her? I guess that is speak for David is no longer giving it to her? Weekly colonics? Why? YoFo only eats one almond a day and drinks lemon juice. Is it to remove the sludge from all those medications? Thank goodness for Kylle and Mauricio's daughter for speaking up and shutting down that damn talk about what went down with regards to Mauricio and the girls not being invited. By the way, any family who does that to family members are not worth calling them family. Family doesn't do that shit. Assholes do. I can see why Kathy allows Brandi around her. It pisses off Kyle and what better way to get to Kyle than to be friendly with that scummy bitch. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787668
DebbieM4 December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 We use 100% of our brain. If our brain is injured, then we may have reduced functions, but we would still be using 100% of the brain. Whatever is there, we use it all. I think Yolanda meant that she feels like her brain works 1/2 as well as it used to. It would be impossible to prove that unless she had a fMRI and PET diary spanning years before injury and then after to compare the areas that light up and how much oxygen was in each area compared to now. Yes, she may have meant that. But she has a habit of making statements as though they're actual medical findings. I'm not disagreeing with anything you've said. Just adding my own thought. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787679
Popular Post jaync December 9, 2015 Popular Post Share December 9, 2015 Yolanda's med closet, wow. It was like a Michael Jackson starter kit up in there. 26 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787680
breezy424 December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 Yes, Yolanda had the teeth removed, just the teeth with white gold fillings, NOT just the crowns. She has temporaries while waiting for either partials or dental implants. Watch the scene again, those are dental forceps they are using to pull her tooth when the Dentist tells her "they are almost done", if they were just removing the filling, they would have used a drill. Also, Yolanda has stated she had the teeth pulled. Gotta disagree. They use the forceps to remove crowns as well. If she had implants, that would involve using metal for the screws that have to be inserted into the bones for the implants. It defeats the purpose. Removing a crown is different from removing a filling. And Yo said crown. A crown is placed over a tooth that has been drilled down with the root still intact or a gold post has been inserted to replace the 'root'. The 'crown' is placed over this. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787681
GreatKazu December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 No shit, what other day of the week are open houses held?? Sunday. It can be spread out over the weekend. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787688
DebbieM4 December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 I forgot to mention how much it irritated me that Yolanda greeted Lisa R. and Eileen with, "You both look so fit and healthy!". That is not how she used to greet the other housewives, it was always, "You look beautiful, I love your dress/shoes/blouse." Now it's, "Hello, you look healthy", and that jumps on my last nerve. Does she really think people don't see through that crap? Stop fishing for everyone to talk about our poor health, that's why they came to see you, they know you are sick, they get it, everyone gets it. Honestly, the way her "health advocate" (WTF? She is a Personal Assistant) who survived Lyme disease* told them about the medicine closet and practically ran to show it to Lisa and Eileen seemed so staged to me, like Yolanda had advised her to find some way to get them to look at it before they left. When closets were mentioned, DING! They said closet! Now I can tell them about the "impressive" pill closet! I noticed all of that too, and found it pretty laughable. The "compliments" she gave Lisa and Eileen really were about how ill she is, and not about them at all. And the closet thing was so clearly planned. The way that played out simply does not happen otherwise. I'm starting to feel insulted that Yolanda actually thought we wouldn't see right through things like that! 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787690
WireWrap December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 Gotta disagree. They use the forceps to remove crowns as well. If she had implants, that would involve using metal for the screws that have to be inserted into the bones for the implants. It defeats the purpose. Removing a crown is different from removing a filling. And Yo said crown. A crown is placed over a tooth that has been drilled down with the root still intact or a gold post has been inserted to replace the 'root'. The 'crown' is placed over this. They are using ceramic "screws" now, more expensive than the metal ones but less problems. Yolanda has stated that she had the teeth pulled, removed, not just the crowns. So either Yolanda was lying before or she lied tonight. You pick. LOL 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787693
Thick McRunFast December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 (edited) Honestly, the way her "health advocate" (WTF? She is a Personal Assistant) who survived Lyme disease* told them about the medicine closet and practically ran to show it to Lisa and Eileen seemed so staged to me, like Yolanda had advised her to find some way to get them to look at it before they left. When closets were mentioned, DING! They said closet! Now I can tell them about the "impressive" pill closet! If I thought her "health advocate" was in any way, shape, or form any kind of medical professional I would be bothered that she was so eager to show off her client's giant closet of medication. Privacy violation much? Since she's really just a glorified person assistant it's probably part of her job description to make sure everyone who comes to the house knows how sick Yolanda is. Edited December 9, 2015 by Thick McRunFast 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787699
GreatKazu December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 I noticed all of that too, and found it pretty laughable. The "compliments" she gave Lisa and Eileen really were about how ill she is, and not about them at all. And the closet thing was so clearly planned. The way that played out simply does not happen otherwise. I'm starting to feel insulted that Yolanda actually thought we wouldn't see right through things like that! Just like how YoFo tried to feed the viewers that Bella only had one glass of wine. What's next? David only cheated on her once? They are using ceramic "screws" now, more expensive than the metal ones but less problems. Yolanda has stated that she had the teeth pulled, removed, not just the crowns. So either Yolanda was lying before or she lied tonight. You pick. LOL Girl, too funny LOL YoFo will blame her brain, as usual. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787710
Giselle December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 If I thought her "health advocate" was in any way, shape, or form any kind of medical professional I would be bothered that she was so eager to show off her client's giant closet of medication. Privacy violation much? Since she's really just a glorified person assistant it's probably part of her job description to make sure everyone who comes to the house knows how sick Yolanda is. Yolanda?...Privacy?...??? 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787713
breezy424 December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 They are using ceramic "screws" now, more expensive than the metal ones but less problems. Yolanda has stated that she had the teeth pulled, removed, not just the crowns. So either Yolanda was lying before or she lied tonight. You pick. LOL According to Yo's blog: Removing my metal-based crowns was gnarly, but in hindsight, it has brought clarity to my case. I was highly allergic to the materials and metals that they were made of, so through chelation, we have been able the bring down my heavy metal toxicity significantly. She says nothing about her teeth being pulled. She says the crowns were removed. There's no reason to pull teeth if your purpose is to remove the 'metal'. You can put a ceramic crown in much more easily than a ceramic screw. And the preservation of the tooth is much higher with a ceramic crown than a ceramic screw and crown. That's just common sense. LOL I do find it interesting that she mentions chelation. That probably solved her situation more than anything else. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787714
LibertarianSlut December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 (edited) Yes, Kyle's daughter Alexia is the one who was bit by Kim's dog, and she is a bone fide adult, as last season we saw Kyle and Mauricio drop her off at the University of Arizona. So methinks something may be up...also, why blame the etiquette breach on Kathy and not Nikki? Nikki should have the balls to say who is invited to her wedding and who's not. I doubt it's a money issue. That wedding looked like it was funded by bigger money than even the Hiltons have, though I may be wrong. WireWrap, you beat me to the Alexia question. Great minds... Edited December 9, 2015 by N. Bluth 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787718
swankie December 9, 2015 Share December 9, 2015 Isn't there some kind of statistic that says we only employ a small percentage of our mental capacity? And what does she mean when she says "brain function"? Are there physical problems from this? Is she unable to experience pain, say? She never seems to make much sense. That's because she's only using 60% of her brain function. ba-dum-bum-CHING! ;-) 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/35589-s06e02-tuscany/page/2/#findComment-1787720
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