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[Joimiaroxeu]

Guess Donna didn't know what a lot of those Mediterranean yacht parties actually are, lol. She might end up in a harem. (Not saying human trafficking is funny. However, plenty of women go to those parties intending to get work as professional escorts for wealthy foreign men.)

DD was so freaking hot. Katie was a fool. But, ugh, Bill jumps from one sister to the other like he's just changing to a different pair of shoes. Why would either of the women want to be treated like that?

Guess the posters who usually hang out here aren't interested in the throwback episodes, huh? 😕

[Anna Yolei]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Guess the posters who usually hang out here aren't interested in the throwback episodes, huh?

Unless the throwbacks are ones with original Ridge and free from Liam relationship drama, I probably wouldn't be tuning in, even if my local affiliate didn't preempt the show 4 days out of five for our governor's updates. I wasn't here for that tool's simpering behind Steffy and Wyatt in Monte Carlo the first time around and it hasn't aged very well since.

I'll make an exception for the Portifino wedding next week, since I was deployed when that went down and full wedding clips for either Lope or Steam are surprisingly hard to come by. 

[A-Lo]

It must hurt KKL's heart to see this wedding episode with a Ridge that actually liked her!

[ByaNose]

26 minutes ago, A-Lo said:

It must hurt KKL's heart to see this wedding episode with a Ridge that actually liked her!

Ronn Moss was a horrible actor but he & KKL had great chemistry. The beach wedding was beautiful.

[nilyank]

I couldn't stop laughing. To Stephanie being so ticked off that the wedding took place and not being able to stop it and having to be a part of it. Worth it.

At the time, I was thrilled for Brooke and Ridge to finally get married not knowing how this was probably the high point of their entire relationship.

Those vows? Who wrote that junk.

And I always hated Prince Omar for saving Taylor. Twice.

[TobinAlbers]

It was so nice to get some Old School B&B. I had a time of it, trying to remember some of the characters -original Storm had dark hair!- but overall it was nice to see a wedding that looked like a wedding complete with guests, not in a living room but on the beach complete with Bridge riding into the sunset on horses. Taylor looking fine as hell, Prince Omar looking fine as hell, Stephanie not having any of this ish, and man oh man, Bridget and Rick both at the wedding of their mother to their brother (although at the time they thought Bridget was Ridge's).

Good times!

[CountryGirl]

Kelly and Ronn were just gorgeous.

And wooden or not, I would take his Ridge all day, any day, over TK. He actually looked like he was truly in love with Brooke (or whoever he was involved with). But perhaps warmth is something that cannot be taught.

And HT was simply stunning. It's such a shame she messed with her face. 

And yup, Omar could get it.

Man, the days when weddings took place someone other than Eric's living room.

[Anna Yolei]

3 hours ago, nilyank said:

At the time, I was thrilled for Brooke and Ridge to finally get married not knowing how this was probably the high point of their entire relationship.

In retrospect, it really was. I came in at the turn of the century and I thought after RJ was born and they got married shortly after that they would have a happily ever after. Contrary to what my family will have you believe, I was an idealist as a teenager to ever believe Ridge and Brooke were capable of staying stable.

[Irlandesa]

B&B was never my soap aside for a few months when Bill and Katie first started (was curious about seeing them as a couple) but I peaced out around the time the Steffy stuff started.

But I'm nostalgic for when soaps had writing and money (and mid-90s was no comparison to the mid 80s) so I tuned in today. It was beautiful but I also shocked that it took Ridge and Brooke seven years to get to the alter.  If DOOL takes longer than seven weeks to get a couple married these days, I'm impressed by their restraint*.

*Don't worry, they're headed for a divorce seven days later usually.

Edited May 5, 2020 by Irlandesa

[CountryGirl]

Today is pretty much FF material with the Steffy/Liam wedding.

Although this will never not be laughably bad.

I would have much rather seen the Brill wedding than this crap.

[Gam2]

OMG. Steffy looked and acted so awfully bad today! Those vows were cringe worthy and embarrassing for everyone there. Blech.

[tessaray]

3 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Today is pretty much FF material with the Steffy/Liam wedding.

Although this will never not be laughably bad.

I would have much rather seen the Brill wedding than this crap.

You have to give SC credit for not laughing, at least.     

[TobinAlbers]

3 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Today is pretty much FF material with the Steffy/Liam wedding.

Although this will never not be laughably bad.

I would have much rather seen the Brill wedding than this crap.

Yup, this is why I skipped today.

I just don't get why they thought this was a cool thing for this couple to do for their 3rd? 4th? wedding? And she's doing stupid attention seeking crap that Liam for some reason finds so awesome and exciting when really it just doesn't fit. 

And really when your previous wedding to Liam had you rolling up on a motorcycle dressed all in black -which was actually not a bad look for Steffy - how you gonna come swinging in wearing white? ::shakes head::

The Sally/Clark wedding or Sally/Massimo wedding would've been better!

Tomorrow we get Batie at least. The first wedding was pretty good.

Edited May 5, 2020 by TobinAlbers

[Anna Yolei]

1 minute ago, TobinAlbers said:

Sally/Massimo wedding

They got married?! 😮

[Joimiaroxeu]

Just caught yesterday's episode.

Wow, a wedding that wasn't in Eric or Brooke's living room, and was conducted by an actual minister versus the resident toady. Subtracting points though for the location. A beachfront wedding in CA seems cliche to me.

Who was that woman sitting with Eric? Looked like the infamous Sheila.

Loved Brooke's wedding gown, especially those unusual sleeves. I don't think I've ever seen sleeves fashioned like that before. I guess either Eric or Ridge designed it?

Okay, the musicians up on the cliff playing the wedding march was a nice touch. I was wondering if a boom box had been hidden under one of the chairs or something.

Oh, so Ridge was unknowingly committing bigamy. That gorgeous dress went to waste. 🙄

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Bridget and Rick both at the wedding of their mother to their brother

Uh, WTF? Oh, I guess this is when everyone still thought Ridge was Eric's son. 🤤 But still, how do you explain to your kids that you're marrying the guy they think is their brother? How was everyone--except Stephanie--okay with it?

[TobinAlbers]

27 minutes ago, Anna Yolei said:

They got married?! 😮

Sorry, Massimo stopped Stephanie and Eric's wedding and Sally I think dropped a bomb at another of Ridge/Brooke's weddings or Massimo/Jackie's wedding about RJ's paternity if I'm not mistaken. Either way they were both epic.

Look at this photo and tell me you wouldn't watch. Also wow young Clark resembles current Thomas in a big way.

26 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Uh, WTF? Oh, I guess this is when everyone still thought Ridge was Eric's son. 🤤 But still, how do you explain to your kids that you're marrying the guy they think is their brother? How was everyone--except Stephanie--okay with it?

Well to Bridget her mommy and daddy were getting married so it was all good for her until 1996 when she was told, yeah, your dad is actually Eric, LOL.

Massimo showed up in 2001 which is when Ridge's shocking paternity was revealed.  Ridge/Bridget shenanigans were in 2003. 

So father/daughter for 6 years (1990-1996), brother/sister for 5 years (1996-2001 + add in SOARSing), 3 years where they're not blood related (2001-2003), and then BOOM! shenanigans. 

Bridget should be a LOT more messed up than she is. She should've been Aly levels of tragically demented and Brooke should be her nemesis/rival and Bridget and Hope should have a very complicated relationship. But the Logan women are LoganStrong so we get no good stories of how Brooke is a very flawed, complicated, sympathetic matriarch.

Edited May 5, 2020 by TobinAlbers

[nilyank]

25 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Uh, WTF? Oh, I guess this is when everyone still thought Ridge was Eric's son. 🤤 But still, how do you explain to your kids that you're marrying the guy they think is their brother? How was everyone--except Stephanie--okay with it?

In the case of Bridget, she thought Ridge was her dad.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Bridget should be a LOT more messed up than she is.

OMG, understatement of the century. No wonder Hope pretty much disregards Brooke's attempts to be maternal. Brooke is...not a good mother, IMO. At least not in the sense of putting her kids' emotional health before her romantic desires. 

[Anna Yolei]

48 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

Bridget should be a LOT more messed up than she is. She should've been Aly levels of tragically demented and Brooke should be her nemesis/rival and Bridget and Hope should have a very complicated relationship. But the Logan women are LoganStrong so we get no good stories of how Brooke is a very flawed, complicated, sympathetic matriarch.

God, this.

If there was one thing I felt ATWT got mostly right in it's last few seasons, it was showing how messed up the parents' bullshit made the kids once they became teens. Parker dragged Carly and Jack's hypocrisy, Casey was a spoiled brat who hid behind his parents' reputation to avoid responsibility for getting a girl pregnant; and on the more tragic end, you had Will Munson dealing with the poisoning of his brother's fiancee because he just wanted to make his mother happy. All their parents had their shit thrown back at them. For that matter, so did soap royalty Luke and Laura once their oldest son found out about their origin story.

In general, this show's legacy children are absolutely boring in comparison. I fully expect Douglas to handwaved everything Thomas has put him through once he becomes a teenager, the same as when Hope instantly accepted Deacon and blitzed through grappling with her conception with zero discussion with Bridget. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

OMFG, how many times are they going to show the Oz wedding? Maybe B&B is still paying the bills for that location shoot so they have to keep sucking in the advertising bucks. 😑

Dayum, DD. You are the hottest Spencer. How was Steffy going to marry that cheap imitation--again--when she could've had the OG?

Was Nicole old enough to drink or had they SORASed her? I think when she first showed up in LA she was still a teenager just in college.

Steffy's dress seemed rather conservative, for her anyway. Her shoulders and back were both covered. Was she wearing combat boots underneath it or something else ridiculously extra?

Oh, it wasn't a dress, it was a lace jumpsuit with a train. Nevermind. You do you, Steffy. 😒

Sigh, Ivy. She looked way more beautiful than the bride, IMO. With a lot less effort, probably. 😼

[CharlizeCat]

Fun fact: That little tow-head who played Rick on yesterday's show is KKL's son IRL. From marriage #1. I think his name is Jeremy Scott (or Scott Jeremy) Snider. (or maybe that is his dad's name ... ) 😁

[Petunia13]

7 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

 

“It’s a bird” “It’s a plane” “It’s a Pick Me” 

[CountryGirl]

The Batie 1.0 wedding is on and between the all-wrong ivory on white tux  (with crooked bow tie) $ Bill is sporting, Katie looking like she's all of 15 years old, and the backyard weddings can be quite lovely, but this ain't that, I just...cannot.

LOL at the minister basically making Katie sound like a loser. Which, still true. The only thing missing from his speech was a comment about her acne.

Although the locale does prove that for all of Stephanie's ranting, Brooke and the rest of the Logan crew weren't exactly from the "wrong side of the tracks."

It looks like Daddy taking his daughter to the prom. And not a knock on DD at all because you all know I think he is fine as fuck. 

Also, what is up with the audio not being in sync? It made the whole already creepy affair even creepier.

Epic wedding?

In what universe?

[nkotb]

1 hour ago, CountryGirl said:

The Batie 1.0 wedding is on and between the all-wrong ivory on white tux  (with crooked bow tie) $ Bill is sporting, Katie looking like she's all of 15 years old, and the backyard weddings can be quite lovely, but this ain't that, I just...cannot.

LOL at the minister basically making Katie sound like a loser. Which, still true. The only thing missing from his speech was a comment about her acne.

Although the locale does prove that for all of Stephanie's ranting, Brooke and the rest of the Logan crew weren't exactly from the "wrong side of the tracks."

It looks like Daddy taking his daughter to the prom. And not a knock on DD at all because you all know I think he is fine as fuck. 

Also, what is up with the audio not being in sync? It made the whole already creepy affair even creepier.

Epic wedding?

In what universe?

Co-sign.

I have a funny story, that I couldn't wait to tell my friends, here on this board. Last night, Hubs went through a little catch-all basket we have. He started waving a dollar in my face, & I made a joke about the quarantine taking away any desire I had, to ever strip, if I'd ever had any, & left 20 extra pounds in its' place. Hubs said "isn't that your favorite?" I said "$1? Add a few zeroes behind it, then, yes." Hubs, "No, your favorite actor?" Me, "George Washington?" Hubs," NO, DOLLAR BILL!" OMG, Hubs isn't overly-clever (still perfect), but it was hysterical. But, yes, Dollar Bill is my favorite actor to enjoy lunch with. Yum!

[ByaNose]

I was looking forward to hearing the Jordan Sparks song, "This Is My Now" at the end of the wedding but it was replaced by some other stupid song. The was the best part of the wedding along with the "flashbacks" of young Katie but really Victoria Newman on Y&R. I guess they couldn't pay the fee again for use of the song. I will have to scour YouTube to watch & hear it again.

[Anna Yolei]

2 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Although the locale does prove that for all of Stephanie's ranting, Brooke and the rest of the Logan crew weren't exactly from the "wrong side of the tracks."

I do remember the show making mention that Brooke and Storm graduated from Van Nuys High School. I've driven out that way for a house party once and....maybe it was some Podunk backwater city in 1987, but it wasn't at like that when I visited out there in 2017 (in fact, the house I went to was owned by Dan Lauria from The Wonder Years and a number of other actors live in the area as well)

50 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

I was looking forward to hearing the Jordan Sparks song, "This Is My Now" at the end of the wedding but it was replaced by some other stupid song. The was the best part of the wedding along with the "flashbacks" of young Katie but really Victoria Newman on Y&R. I guess they couldn't pay the fee again for use of the song. I will have to scour YouTube to watch & hear it again.

Huh. I hadn't seen the wedding since it first aired, the music played today sounded all wrong and more uptempo than I remembered. It's good to know I didn't imagine that.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Oh, I really liked Katie's tea length dress. Simple elegance.

Katie and Bill getting married within eyeshot of her childhood home was similar to Y&R's Victoria and Billy getting married outside of the Father Knows Best house. (The ceremony where Victor had Victoria arrested mid-ceremony to keep her from marrying Billy.) Victoria also wore a tea length.

If you don't like the brie, concentrate on the caviar. That's what I always say. 🙄 Eric was acting  like a big ol' snob. Was that Stephanie's influence because he doesn't seem to be that way now. Maybe he's learned to be less obvious about it. 😑

Heather Tom was so beautiful. (Not that I think she's ugly now but in this episode she was practically luminescent.)

Patrick Duffy was a big get, huh?

Lol, Bill said he's never broken a promise. Sure. Guess he never promised not to make out with Katie's sister behind Katie's back.

[CharlizeCat]

For me, it was worth watching for DD and PD. I ff'd through the cheesy vows. Why was Stephanie at Eric & Donna's house? I forgot. At first, when I saw everybody, including Thorne, dressed in black, I thought it was a memorial service and I was frantically trying to remember who died around the same time as the first Batie wedding.

TBH ... I would have happily watched the reception instead of that lame wedding. Did we ever see that?

[Anna Yolei]

6 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Lol, Bill said he's never broken a promise. Sure. Guess he never promised not to make out with Katie's sister behind Katie's back.

It's worth pointing out that his emotional affair with Steffy started about two or three months after this wedding. Bill's always been a shit husband to Katie, even when her character was less of a pill than she is these days.

6 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Heather Tom was so beautiful. (Not that I think she's ugly now but in this episode she was practically luminescent.)

I think that's a huge reason why all the ugly duckling thing Katie put upon herself just didn't stick the landing: she's played by Heather fricken Tom, who back then was still more well known as Victoria Newman, heiress and corporate mogul. I mean, one of her very first stories on B&B involved her banging her niece's husband for cryin' out loud!

I mean, I have first hand knowledge that self-esteem issues from childhood don't evaporate the minute you graduate high school, but bagging a hot multi-millionaire is definitely a demarcation line that such a story should be pushed to the background faster than you can say "Jack Marone."

[TobinAlbers]

Ah, nothing like opening lusting after your future son-in-law while standing at the altar marrying his Dad. Ridge leering over Eric's shoulder as Eric and Brooke were saying their vows was something else. Eric really was a lovesick fool and Brooke, girlfriend wanted to be a Forrester, damnit.

Stephanie forcing herself to witness that wedding because she wouldn't believe it until it actually happened.

Taylor still looking fine and sporting Ah-mazing hair and engaged to Storm Logan who wasn't having any of DrunkRidge's crap.  Yeah, I can see Storm capping Stephanie if pushed to it.

I will say Brooke looked pretty and plump. I think KKL had just given birth to her son (who we saw in the Brooke/Ridge wedding episode playing lil'Rick earlier this week).

Eric in those jeans. Hoo boy, LOL. He was trying to get his Ralph Lauren on and juuuuust missed.

 

Edited May 7, 2020 by TobinAlbers

[Anna Yolei]

33 minutes ago, TobinAlbers said:

I will say Brooke looked pretty and plump. I think KKL had just given birth to her son (who we saw in the Brooke/Ridge wedding episode playing lil'Rick earlier this week).

She had! 🙂

her son even played baby Eric Jr as Rick was called back then and IIRC her next baby played Bridget too! 

[Joimiaroxeu]

I think HT was so beautiful before she started screwing up her face with all that plastic surgery.

Where was this wedding? Wonder how the neighbors felt about all that trumpet noise outside?

Surprised Stephanie was at that wedding. Why was she even invited?

It's hilarious to hear these people pledging their lives to each other knowing how many times they'll later get married and to how many different people. No wonder the show doesn't have ministers perform the ceremonies any more. It would be utter mockery.

Today I learned that $Bill was not the OG Bill Spencer. His father was at this wedding.

Huh, Donna was a brunette like Katie. Guess the current Donna was still over on Y&R calling herself Grace Turner. 🙄

Lol, Eric dropped the map out of the balloon. So did they end up in Kansas?

[CountryGirl]

Fun fact - original Donna was played by Carrie Mitchum, granddaughter of the legendary actor Robert Mitchum.

[Annifran]

17 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I think HT was so beautiful before she started screwing up her face with all that plastic surgery.

Where was this wedding? Wonder how the neighbors felt about all that trumpet noise outside?

Surprised Stephanie was at that wedding. Why was she even invited?

It's hilarious to hear these people pledging their lives to each other knowing how many times they'll later get married and to how many different people. No wonder the show doesn't have ministers perform the ceremonies any more. It would be utter mockery.

Today I learned that $Bill was not the OG Bill Spencer. His father was at this wedding.

Huh, Donna was a brunette like Katie. Guess the current Donna was still over on Y&R calling herself Grace Turner. 🙄

Lol, Eric dropped the map out of the balloon. So did they end up in Kansas?

To me, the park wedding scene looked like the backlot of a movie studio.  It just didn't look real.

[CountryGirl]

Steffy falling into the drink, by her own stupidity, was the best part of today's throwback episode. And all because she was so distraught over Liam marrying Hope.

 

[Anna Yolei]

22 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Today I learned that $Bill was not the OG Bill Spencer. His father was at this wedding.

Indeed Bill Spencer Jr is a retconned character created to give Don Diamont a job after Maria Bell fridged Brad Carlton. He definitely couldn't have been sacked at a better time.because Y&R is a hot mess these days.

3 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Steffy falling into the drink, by her own stupidity, was the best part of today's throwback episode. And all because she was so distraught over Liam marrying Hope.

 

I'd actually forgotten how horrid a brat Steffy was in those days. Her sulking and pouring was hilarious!

[Joimiaroxeu]

Bleh, the Puglia wedding is still fresh enough in my mind that I decided not to watch it again.

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Indeed Bill Spencer Jr is a retconned character created to give Don Diamont a job after Maria Bell fridged Brad Carlton. He definitely couldn't have been sacked at a better time.because Y&R is a hot mess these days.

Classic case of falling upward. I doubt Brad would've lasted this long anyway. DD is solid on B&B unless for some insane reason they decide to get rid of $Bill.

[CharlizeCat]

5 hours ago, CountryGirl said:

Steffy falling into the drink, by her own stupidity, was the best part of today's throwback episode. And all because she was so distraught over Liam marrying Hope.

 

Even better when the seagull crapped on her head!

[nilyank]

On 5/8/2020 at 9:44 AM, CountryGirl said:

Fun fact - original Donna was played by Carrie Mitchum, granddaughter of the legendary actor Robert Mitchum.

Fun fact 2 - original Storm was played by Ethan Wayne, son of John Wayne.

[LittleIggy]

It was fun seeing everyone in today’s episode, especially Sally. I don’t blame the audience not clapping at those first designs. They looked like flight attendant uniforms. 😆

[Joimiaroxeu]

So why was the Forrester line delayed?

Oh hey, it's Lauren Fenmore.

Was that actually in Lake Como or somewhere in CA?

[ByaNose]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

So why was the Forrester line delayed?

Oh hey, it's Lauren Fenmore.

Was that actually in Lake Como or somewhere in CA?

Lake Como but I don’t think Sally & Lauren were really there. If so, the fashion show part was done in the studio in Los Angeles. 
 

The gray wedding/bridesmaids dress in the finale was beautiful. It obviously could be worn today which isn’t bad for a dress that was from 1997. 

Edited May 12, 2020 by ByaNose

[Anna Yolei]

Sally I'm pretty sure was there, because I seem to remember her shoving Stephanie in a pool or the actual Lake Como at some point.

But assuming that was taped in LA, wow, that's a helluva lot better than the Ridge and Shauna "adventure" in Las Vegas that I couldn't even tell!

[CharlizeCat]

I loved that showstopper dress and that model, wow! I loved her haircut.  I guess it's kind of like today's stacked bob, but looked so much more elegant and sophisticated. 

Lauren always seemed like the perfect wife for Eric. (I don't watch Y&R, so I don't know a whole lot about her). I wonder why he never fell for her? As time passed, she became so thirsty and desperate for him, that I can see why that would have been a turn-off, but still??? 

[Anna Yolei]

On 5/12/2020 at 7:32 AM, CharlizeCat said:

Lauren always seemed like the perfect wife for Eric. (I don't watch Y&R, so I don't know a whole lot about her).

Lauren was Steffy on steroids on her heyday. She had a whole line of men and definitely didn't flinch to step on a few toes to get whatever her priviledged heiress ass wanted. I get the sense that Sheila Carter was brought in as a way to  bring some much needed karmic payback for all the people she fucked over during the 80s, most notably Tracy Abbott and the husband she cheated on to get with Scott.

Eric couldn't handle Lauren 😂

 

Edited May 14, 2020 by Anna Yolei

[Joimiaroxeu]

Why would Liam be involved in fashion week? Was he representing SP?

So who was playing this Oliver guy? He was an awful actor, IMO.

All that drinking at high altitude probably didn't work out well for a lot of those people. High altitude hangovers are a special kind of misery for the unitiated.

Please, Hope was such a celebrity the press were mobbing her? What was she famous for, misplacing her hymen?

Rick, the internet doesn't live in your PC.

Thirsty Steffy. Ugh. Not sure why she was there either. Did FC have a sportswear line?

Seriously, I can't imagine who thought a bunch of men chasing a young woman through the streets was funny. That had to have been verging on assault. Hope should've dialed 9-1-1.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Ivy. Sigh, so effortlessly beautiful. Meanwhile, Steffy was over there looking like a Bratz doll's older sister. 😼

Did Eric ever get with Katie? He got with her sisters so he could've made it a Logan trifecta.

What means "fashion pass" and "jewelry pass"?

So was this before or after Quinn and Ridge had their sorta affair?

Those were nice gowns. Wonder who actually designed them?

"...99 problems and a switch ain't one." Oh Quinn, you are not that hip. Not that hop either.

I didn't really care for the showstopper gown though I do think Quinn looked stunning in it. It was too prom queen dress-ish to me.

Why doesn't B&B do full-blown fashion shows anymore? The last one I remember was when Emma called herself dancing down the runway. The dancing models looked to me like they were having spastic fits. 🤤

[Petunia13]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Did Eric ever get with Katie? He got with her sisters so he could've made it a Logan trifecta

He was with Beth a long time. That makes 3. No he didn’t smash Katie but she all but threw herself at him like she does the rest of her family’s exes. 

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Those were nice gowns. Wonder who actually designed them?

Probably Monique Lhuillier. 

[Anna Yolei]

On 5/12/2020 at 4:25 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

So who was playing this Oliver guy? He was an awful actor, IMO.

He really was. I remember him being popular at the time, but after the Brooke boink and once Liam came into the picture (you know, before he became....well, Liam) I was all too happy to see him fade into the background.

4 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Why doesn't B&B do full-blown fashion shows anymore?

I assume a lot of it is money but it's been ages since the show's had a decent budget to do a really good showing. 2019 is the first season in which B&B didn't have any kind of show at all.

5 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

So was this before or after Quinn and Ridge had their sorta affair?

I'm pretty sure this was before.

[CountryGirl]

It was before although I dare say we saw the first sparks of Quidge as they held hands on the runway. 

Even if Ridge told her he hated her. 

Because we all know the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. And Ridge was clearly anything but indifferent to his stepmonster.