Meri Brown and her Wet Bar of Tears

[Natalie68]

On 4/1/2024 at 5:08 PM, Meow Mix said:

Aw, I'm so glad she has Zona for that.  It is true, pets know when you need some comfort. 

I haven't had a dog very long so I am new to this.  I was having a horrible time at work and was super upset for several weeks.  At one point, my boy Newton came over and just laid his head on my shoulder.  I really needed it!  Love that big boy.

I am glad Meri has Jen and Zona.  They both seem to make her happy.  Watching old episodes reminds me of how bad she looked for a long time.  Had to be a lot of the pain she felt from Kody mucking up her countenance.  Maybe we can blame Kody for those eyebrows as well.  Robyn's have taken on the same look so...

[ginger90]

[Elizzikra]

That’s not a bad message - and I love that dog!

[Natalie68]

4 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

That’s not a bad message - and I love that dog!

I am starting to like Meri.  Right as it seems she is really starting to like herself.

[monagatuna]

2 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

I am starting to like Meri.  Right as it seems she is really starting to like herself.

Same, I did not expect this redemption arc but I'm glad it's here!

[Gramto6]

1 hour ago, monagatuna said:

Same, I did not expect this redemption arc but I'm glad it's here!

I second this thought!

[zenme]

Maybe being in a family where she didn’t feel loved by her spouse made her a beyotch.

[Orcinus orca]

2 hours ago, zenme said:

Maybe being in a family where she didn’t feel loved by her spouse made her a beyotch.

From the stories and pictures, she and Kootie did have feelings for each other early on.  It was after he  took another wife that he turned into the ass that we know and hate.  Meri had a choice and she chose the bitch route.

[Meow Mix]

12 hours ago, Orcinus orca said:

From the stories and pictures, she and Kootie did have feelings for each other early on.  It was after he  took another wife that he turned into the ass that we know and hate.  Meri had a choice and she chose the bitch route.

I agree she had a choice and I have said before in other threads that Meri has made a ton of bad choices in her life.  I do understand, though because it wears you down and changes you when people around you treat you like the bad guy who is the root of all their problems.  She should have put Kody in the rear view mirror a long time ago.  No one needs to be told over and over that they are not desirable or wanted.  I hope Christine has some sense of what Meri went through over the years because Kody turned off on Meri long before he did with Christine.  

[LilyD]

52 minutes ago, Meow Mix said:

I hope Christine has some sense of what Meri went through over the years because Kody turned off on Meri long before he did with Christine.  

Actually, Meri was first wife in every possible way and reigning as queen bee, until Robyn came along. Christine was never awarded the same love, respect or privileges. Their marriage was doomed before it had even started.

Meri and Kody’s fall out didn’t happen until much later, when Robyn had firmly established herself as 4th 1st wife.

[Tuxcat]

On 4/24/2024 at 9:00 PM, LilyD said:

Actually, Meri was first wife in every possible way and reigning as queen bee, until Robyn came along. Christine was never awarded the same love, respect or privileges. Their marriage was doomed before it had even started.

Meri and Kody’s fall out didn’t happen until much later, when Robyn had firmly established herself as 4th 1st wife.

I used to think so but from the small kernels of truth we get I have doubt. In the book (half fiction probably) they talk about the t rough times between Meri and Kody -  prior to the show. And at some point Meri realized she was not getting 1/3 of his time...mostly because he had tenders with Christine and Janelle.

And of course we learned just last season, Kody melted down the ring Meri gave him with intention "to release himself from Meri."  A deliberate act against her. And the story about how he gave heaps of presents to Christine and none to Meri years and years before... 

I think Janelle was the OG Kody whisperer prior to Robyn. His "intellectual equal" - she had his ear. And she for sure planted seeds. Christine was a "princess." Meri was a "b**ch."

I don't think Christine was ever the favorite but she did "earn favor" by having 6 babies- which definitely is the way to get more attention. She was the "fun one" and by all accounts she wanted to be the "third wife" for a reason - "the last one."
 The last one always gets perks. 

[Sandy W]

Something went awry once Kody married Janelle, long before the catfish put the final nail in the coffin. 

Could be that Meri defensively lorded it over Janelle and then Christine to maintain her position of power. This was not the harmonious blending of happy homemakers that Kody had envisioned.

[Natalie68]

54 minutes ago, Sandy W said:

Something went awry once Kody married Janelle, long before the catfish put the final nail in the coffin. 

Could be that Meri defensively lorded it over Janelle and then Christine to maintain her position of power. This was not the harmonious blending of happy homemakers that Kody had envisioned.

I would be surprised if ONE plyg marriage had a harmonious blending of happy homemakers.  In all of history.  People aren't made like that.  This is the big con that they keep feeding mormon fundy women to keep them in line and the men in charge.

[laurakaye]

Can anyone give me the condensed version of whatever Meri is up to now with her dramatic "Worthy Up" IG posts?  I saw one post that looked like she was announcing a podcast, or a world speaking tour or something, complete with a blurry fade-in and mysterious words like "To Be Continued."  I wasn't paying close enough attention but yet, I am curious. And lazy. :)

[Sandy W]

12 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Can anyone give me the condensed version of whatever Meri is up to now with her dramatic "Worthy Up" IG posts?  I saw one post that looked like she was announcing a podcast, or a world speaking tour or something, complete with a blurry fade-in and mysterious words like "To Be Continued."  I wasn't paying close enough attention but yet, I am curious. And lazy. :)

I think she is trying to set herself up as some sort of Life Coach.

I will not be enlisting.

[Orcinus orca]

46 minutes ago, Sandy W said:

I think she is trying to set herself up as some sort of Life Coach.

Well, sure.  Who wouldn't want to emulate her Amazing Boss Babe Highly Filtered lifestyle.

[Adiba]

On 4/26/2024 at 12:08 PM, Sandy W said:

Something went awry once Kody married Janelle, long before the catfish put the final nail in the coffin. 

Could be that Meri defensively lorded it over Janelle and then Christine to maintain her position of power. This was not the harmonious blending of happy homemakers that Kody had envisioned.

I feel that Meri was, and in some ways still is, very "proprietary" over Kody. As if he was somehow more "hers" because she was there first. Meri felt that she and Kody started this family together--it was "theirs." And until Robyn came in and staged a bloodless coup, Meri still felt that way despite her failing relationship with Kody.

Even after Garrison's death, Meri was defending Kody on one of her lives. I'm not saying she was wrong, but why doesn't the man defend himself if he is being unfairly blamed? I don't see Kody defending Meri against any abuse accusations.

[ginger90]

6 minutes ago, Adiba said:

Meri was defending Kody on one of her lives

She actually wasn’t defending him. She received many messages placing blame. She addressed it again in the comments because people just didn’t get it.

 

 

[Adiba]

6 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

She actually wasn’t defending him. She received many messages placing blame. She addressed it again in the comments because people just didn’t get it.

 

 

Yes, I should have said that she was speaking out for him (which is what she was, really) regarding some people blaming him for Garrison's death. It was definitely aimed at those who were targeting Kody rather than just a general statement about how no one is to blame for another person's act of suicide (btw, I agree).

My daughter has had two suicide attempts (she did not succeed, thankfully) and I know now that it is a very complex issue. She has gotten professional help, but has had mental health struggles including a recent stay in the behavioral health unit over the Christmas holiday, in part because she decided to stop taking her meds. She is an adult and no one can force an adult into any king of mental health or addiction treatment--so no, I do not blame Kody.

[Jeanne222]

Is Meri dating anyone?

[laurakaye]

Meri was interviewed on the podcast "Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel."  I can't wait to listen to it on my walk later today.  Make no mistake, she's also there to promote her Worthy Up scheme, but I hope she spills some serious tea as well.

[Soapy Goddess]

19 hours ago, laurakaye said:

but I hope she spills some serious tea as well.

If so, please share!

[laurakaye]

It was an interesting listen - Meri was more well-spoken than I thought she'd be, but she sprinkled in some of her usual "wink-wink, we'll see!" vague nonsense answers to questions.  The interviewer asked her about her beginnings with Kody, about how she felt about Janelle marrying her brother (she was vague but she didn't shy away from any questions).  Let's be rill - Meri did the podcast to promote her Worthy Up stuff, but at least the interviewer asked her lots of SW questions and Meri seemed to answer most of them honestly.  I did like when she made it clear that she and Kody were very much in love in the beginning, which is of course at odds with his revisionist history.  Meri also talked about the catfish, dating, a little bit about Leon and Garrison, and her relationship with the other ex-sister wives (she's cordial, but that's as far as it goes).  She says she's rilly excited for Season 19 to air, so that's kind of interesting.  It's worth a listen, IMO. 

[ginger90]

@laurakaye I read elsewhere that Meri had a different story about how Robyn came into the family. Do you recall what she said?

[laurakaye]

18 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

@laurakaye I read elsewhere that Meri had a different story about how Robyn came into the family. Do you recall what she said?

She said that she and Kody were together "on a drive" when they met Robyn, which - not sure how you meet someone on a drive, but okay.  According to Meri, she and Robyn connected right away.  She also said that she gets frustrated with people who watch the show and tell her that their family was great before Robyn came along, but points out that Robyn was actually in Episode One of Season One, so she was always there as far as the show is concerned.

[Gramto6]

1 hour ago, laurakaye said:

It's worth a listen, IMO. 

I've got it downloaded but only listened to a tiny bit of it yesterday. I hope to get to a full listen today.

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, laurakaye said:

Meri did the podcast to promote her Worthy Up stuff, 

What is Worthy Up?

[laurakaye]

Worthy Up is some kind of empowerment program that Meri has put together.  My guess is you pay Meri to be a life coach - there are meetings, I think - not really sure, even though she discussed it at length, lol.  I have another podcast saved where one of the podcasters signed up for Worthy Up and discusses what it's all about but I haven't listened yet. 

[precious pupp]

Well, Meri is the last person I would go to "worthy up", since she stayed with Kody well past the expiration date of their marriage.  To me, that shows she didn't think she was worthy.

[Natalie68]

4 hours ago, laurakaye said:

It was an interesting listen - Meri was more well-spoken than I thought she'd be, but she sprinkled in some of her usual "wink-wink, we'll see!" vague nonsense answers to questions.  The interviewer asked her about her beginnings with Kody, about how she felt about Janelle marrying her brother (she was vague but she didn't shy away from any questions).  Let's be rill - Meri did the podcast to promote her Worthy Up stuff, but at least the interviewer asked her lots of SW questions and Meri seemed to answer most of them honestly.  I did like when she made it clear that she and Kody were very much in love in the beginning, which is of course at odds with his revisionist history.  Meri also talked about the catfish, dating, a little bit about Leon and Garrison, and her relationship with the other ex-sister wives (she's cordial, but that's as far as it goes).  She says she's rilly excited for Season 19 to air, so that's kind of interesting.  It's worth a listen, IMO. 

I listened to it and I was pleasantly surprised.  It was weird to me watching her being interviewed by Rachel Uquitel but I enjoyed it.  

2 hours ago, precious pupp said:

Well, Meri is the last person I would go to "worthy up", since she stayed with Kody well past the expiration date of their marriage.  To me, that shows she didn't think she was worthy.

Her answer to this is SHE wasn't in a place to leave in her life (and possibly didn't value her own worth).  That she needed to get her own shit settled, her head in a good place and was ready.  I had a bit more understanding when she said that.  

[Roslyn]

5 hours ago, ginger90 said:

@laurakaye I read elsewhere that Meri had a different story about how Robyn came into the family. Do you recall what she said?

 

4 hours ago, laurakaye said:

She said that she and Kody were together "on a drive" when they met Robyn, which - not sure how you meet someone on a drive, but okay.  According to Meri, she and Robyn connected right away.  She also said that she gets frustrated with people who watch the show and tell her that their family was great before Robyn came along, but points out that Robyn was actually in Episode One of Season One, so she was always there as far as the show is concerned.

In the book they describe the meeting of Robyn when Kody and Meri were on a drive and stopped at the house of a fellow church member/friend who was also a relative of Robyn.  Robyn was visiting and they met in the driveway (I think). Robyn adds that she saw Kody before at a church service, but they did not speak or meet then. Later they were at a church dance and Meri suggested to Kody to dance with Robyn. The rest is history.

The drive meeting is what Meri said in the podcast and people posting elsewhere may not have read the book.

Edited June 12 by Roslyn
another thought

[Tuxcat]

On 6/12/2024 at 10:43 AM, laurakaye said:

Worthy Up is some kind of empowerment program that Meri has put together.  My guess is you pay Meri to be a life coach - there are meetings, I think - not really sure, even though she discussed it at length, lol.  I have another podcast saved where one of the podcasters signed up for Worthy Up and discusses what it's all about but I haven't listened yet. 

I'm not sure she's a "life coach" (certainly no certificaiton.)  I think she's trying to create something like Danielle Delgaddo (her "friend") - and I fully expect a book soon - but its not going to be a tell all. It's going to be about "empowerment."

From the website - (note - her vision is NOT clear imho)

"Meri’s vision is clear – to create a space where every woman recognizes her worth, embraces her uniqueness, and thrives in a community that celebrates individual and collective growth. Worthy Up is more than a destination; it’s a catalyst for positive change, and Meri invites you to be a part of this empowering journey. Welcome to Worthy Up, where your transformation begins and your worth is celebrated"

[Orcinus orca]

Word salad that strings together insipid platitudes and says absolutely nothing.

[Absolom]

I take your money and blow sunshine up your skirt.

[Teafortwo]

I wonder if the people she recruits will be tasked with recruiting others.

[Denize]

5 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

From the website - (note - her vision is NOT clear imho)

I was looking for an upside-down light bulb emoji to respond to your post, since I'm no clearer on what exactly her plan is to help people "worthy up" after reading what she posted.

It reminded me of her B&B group things where she expected people to pay $6000 for unknown activities and wouldn't tell people until they paid and she was offended by people even asking.  If the "activities" included things like mountain hikes & white-water rafting, some people wouldn't be up for that.

[Tuxcat]

4 hours ago, Denize said:

I was looking for an upside-down light bulb emoji to respond to your post, since I'm no clearer on what exactly her plan is to help people "worthy up" after reading what she posted.

It reminded me of her B&B group things where she expected people to pay $6000 for unknown activities and wouldn't tell people until they paid and she was offended by people even asking.  If the "activities" included things like mountain hikes & white-water rafting, some people wouldn't be up for that.

I cannot believe I wasted time today lol but I looked at a few more things and found what I think her path is. On her worthy up facebook page it says "motivational speaker."

So right now she's selling access to this "community" which is really just people paying to interact with her lol.

But I think she's going full tilt toward becoming a circuit guru. It's very much the path of Danielle Delgaddo who also sold "positivity" and her "life story." And then started writing help books, touring and selling special "empowerment" trainings. 

Meri seems to be trying to play the same exact game (unforuntately for Meri she is not a good speaker lol ). 

On the membership page it says you get a "Printable pdf WOW workbook"

Do we think that is "women of worth" or the marketing/"start your own business" WOW ... 

It''s got to be scammy since the no one can really figure out for sure what she's doing.

[GeeGolly]

I don't think Meri has quite finished her journey. It seems to me her underlying theme is money and (still) proving her worth to Kody, Janelle and Christine.

Don't get me wrong, any woman helping to empower other women is great, but Meri, IMO, isn't fully healed.

She should really start out with a free online or in person support group more akin to AA. Get a feel for what folks want and what works. As a therapist and group facilitator I can tell you it doesn't involve a microphone, power points and a stage.

Edited June 14 by GeeGolly

[Orcinus orca]

15 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

"Meri’s vision is clear – to create a space where every woman recognizes her worth, embraces her uniqueness, and thrives in a community that celebrates individual and collective growth. Worthy Up is more than a destination; it’s a catalyst for positive change, and Meri invites you to be a part of this empowering journey. Welcome to Worthy Up, where your transformation begins and your worth is celebrated"

And for the cool price of $999.99 she actually tells you HOW.

All of these scammy groups spout crap but never have any viable solutions to offer.  Except joining their MLM pyramid.

PS made up the price.

[laurakaye]

Looks like it's $150, $300 or $600.  The $600 level gets you a surprise bonus gift from Meri.  Dang, that's gonna be one expensive rice krispie treat.

The stock photo on her website shows a group of smiling men and women...isn't this group just for women?  Lazy advertising.  

The higher levels get you some swag like sticky notes, a pen and an autographed mug.  Very enticing.

[GeeGolly]

30 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Looks like it's $150, $300 or $600.  The $600 level gets you a surprise bonus gift from Meri.  Dang, that's gonna be one expensive rice krispie treat.

The stock photo on her website shows a group of smiling men and women...isn't this group just for women?  Lazy advertising.  

The higher levels get you some swag like sticky notes, a pen and an autographed mug.  Very enticing.

Similar to what @Orcinus orca posted, Meri only knows the MLM business model. That is not the way to empower women - it does just the opposite for 99% of them.

[65mickey]

So is she still hawking LuLaRoe?  

[ginger90]

7 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

So is she still hawking LuLaRoe?  

Yes she is.

[HoneyBeach]

On 6/12/2024 at 9:01 AM, laurakaye said:

She said that she and Kody were together "on a drive" when they met Robyn, which - not sure how you meet someone on a drive, but okay.  According to Meri, she and Robyn connected right away.  She also said that she gets frustrated with people who watch the show and tell her that their family was great before Robyn came along, but points out that Robyn was actually in Episode One of Season One, so she was always there as far as the show is concerned.

I stopped actually watching the show except for clips on social media here and there seasons ago (CANNOT stand Kody, so can't watch), and when I tried to start a re-watch (couldn't get into it again), I was actually shocked that Robyn was in Episode 1. Couldn't stand her from the get-go.

[Natalie68]

On 6/14/2024 at 9:01 AM, 65mickey said:

So is she still hawking LuLaRoe?  

Cannot people are still buying that shit.

[laurakaye]

Per Instagram, Meri is closing down Lizzie's Olde Time Heritage Inn and B&B for the foreseeable future.  She seems unsure when she'll reopen and what she is going to do with the space, but it sounds like she's doing some maintenance and remodeling.

Did Meri ever sell her plot of Coyote Pass to Kody and Robyn?  Could she have come into some money that way?  I honestly don't even know if these people still own that property anymore or not.  They probably don't really know either, lol.

[Elodia]

Lizzie's is being closed down? Oh wait, does this mean Kody will come back and make a show of tying up the tape he cut back then? 

[ginger90]

[surfgirl]

It's nit being closed down, she's clearly saying it needs renovations.

[GeeGolly]

I'm guessing its not up to code and can't operate as a B&B until it is. I'm also guessing costs will determine what she does with it.