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 He even spelled narcissist/narcissistic wrong in search box. Lol. 

 

I do that. Thank god Google can always figure out what I really mean. I'd be screwed if Google had to decipher my scrawl.

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After watching "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown", I finally realized who Meghan reminds me of....Lucy smiling like a mad woman as she plunged that knife into the pumpkin.

Ha! and I was beginning to think she reminded me of Kelly years ago on RHONY.  

 

As to the email Alexis sent, I can believe Andy didn't read the whole thing, but I am not sure it would've come across much better.  

I thought Tamra's reaction was horrid.  And I was really disturbed by her talking about her daughter's estrangement from her. 

 

I can't imagine going on one of these "reality shows"  and knowing my kids and grandkids would probably see it later and be embarrassed by me---especially the later seasons where everyone seems to show us their worst selves.

 

I have trouble watching the reunion shows because I truly cannot stand Andy.  I actually like Tamra better than Andy.

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Shannon - perpetually put upon.  A tangerine bloated her?  Really??  I can actually see Vicki's point about working.  What if Shannon & David got a divorce and it turned out David was seriously bankrupt.  What would Shannon do?  What did she do before she married David?  I guess she could always pry the precious gems out of her teeth. 

 

I agree -- I think what Vicki means is by having your own career you would not have to be reliant on a man.  And it's hard for her to understand why someone who can work, chooses not to (like Meghan even though clearly she and the others get a salary from Bravo).  

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President Jimmy Carter "put it out there" that he has brain cancer via print and sit down interviews.

Does that mean he foreits his rights to privacy regarding his medical records?

 

Yes.  HTH!

 

To me all newborns look like little piglets or mice and I mean that in a good way but they still look like piglets or mice.

My boyfriend when confronted with a not so pretty baby says "He's/She's remarkable!" and leaves it at that.

I like to go with "breathtaking" ala Seinfeld

 

That said, I think Ava is actually cute. 

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As far as networths of the housewives if you go on different sites they will give you different ammounts.

 

While looking at the documents  Vicki and Don each walked away with assets  totaling around $633,000 each after the adjustment for outstanding liabilities (Vicki received $886,459 but has to pay obligations of $117,802,  liabilities of $27, 046 and also pay Donn $67,799) . http://radaronline.c.../01/gunuseb.pdf

 

Also later Vicki had to cough up $95K more as Donn was awarded the assets of a bank account in their divorce and it seems Vicki withdrew $95,735 in an “inadvertent or mistaken” transaction. http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/07/vicki-gunvalson-divorce-amendment/

 

In the original judgement I was surprised to see that Coto Insurance was valued around $51,000 dollars and what the heck is the Coto University Inc. valued at $1,500?

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That Celeb Net Worth article is really hard to believe - as noted above, Carole Radziwill roared at the  idea of her worth being $50 million, & totally debunked the estimate as not even close. If Nene Leakes is worth more than $3 million, I'll eat her wig.  And the list captions Teresa Guidice's photo as having net worth of $11 million - only in the text does it state T's actual worth as MINUS $11million.  2013 divorce court records showed Vicki's worth as being less than half of the listed $7 million, even if we include the true market value of her home. Looks like a crock to me.

 

And for my money, Baby Veith, while a "tad" amphibian-appearing at birth, looks like her mom, Ryan's Baby Mama - & she grew up to be a physically attractive lady. 

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Vicki needs a new title, one that accurately describes what a lying, vicious, self-centered, miserable witch she really is.

Since Halloween falls during the reunion...

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I haven't been around for various reasons but I have to say I miss your pictures. :D

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I found this MSN Money article that lists the top 15 richest housewives. It was published this month.

The article states Vicki is worth 7 million.

I gotta say, I thought Kandi Buruss would occupy the top spot, but it's Vanderpump who is the richest housewife according to MSN.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/topstories/teresa-giudice-to-nene-leakes-15-of-the-richest-real-housewives/ss-AAfgIpJ

The article lists Woo Hoo Productions which has/had a value of  $0   listed in the assets (LOL) in the divorce papers.     

       They had to short sale a home.  7 million? I don't think so.      All of those housewives figures are inflated, just like their boobs.

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I found this MSN Money article that lists the top 15 richest housewives. It was published this month.

The article states Vicki is worth 7 million.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/topstories/teresa-giudice-to-nene-leakes-15-of-the-richest-real-housewives/ss-AAfgIpJ

Thanks for the laugh!  If Vicki has a net worth of seven million dollars, I'm the Queen of England.  Her divorce documents posted above revealed the truth about her financial status.  Who knows where these articles get their information.  Only the HWs know their true net worth, and they are all prone to exaggeration when it comes to talking about themselves.

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I seriously give those figures the side-eye. For one thing, Carol Radziwill herself has claimed the amount for her is far from true. The other thing is that the amounts have always remained consistent over the years, while I am sure they have grown or decreased for some. Kyle's net worth was listed at the same figure when she started the show years ago, and that was before Mauricio started The Agency and started making some serious bank. I actually think she is probably the richest HW.

I have always thought that Carole R. is doing the show because she was close to broke.    She was not a Kennedy.  Jackie cut Caroles mother in law (her sister) off years before she died.

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As far as networths of the housewives if you go on different sites they will give you different ammounts.

 

While looking at the documents  Vicki and Don each walked away with assets  totaling around $633,000 each after the adjustment for outstanding liabilities (Vicki received $886,459 but has to pay obligations of $117,802,  liabilities of $27, 046 and also pay Donn $67,799) . http://radaronline.c.../01/gunuseb.pdf

 

Also later Vicki had to cough up $95K more as Donn was awarded the assets of a bank account in their divorce and it seems Vicki withdrew $95,735 in an “inadvertent or mistaken” transaction. http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/07/vicki-gunvalson-divorce-amendment/

 

In the original judgement I was surprised to see that Coto Insurance was valued around $51,000 dollars and what the heck is the Coto University Inc. valued at $1,500?

I remember when Vicki "inadvertently" withdrew $95,000 that didn't belong to her.  It is also known as theft.

 

Coto University is another one of her failed business ventures.  She thought people would pay her to teach them how to become insurance agents -- like the Vegas stripper who attended Vicki's yacht cruise/insurance seminar. 

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Thanks for the laugh! If Vicki has a net worth of seven million dollars, I'm the Queen of England. Her divorce documents posted above revealed the truth about her financial status. Who knows where these articles get their information. Only the HWs know their true net worth, and they are all prone to exaggeration when it comes to talking about themselves.

I find the net worth numbers suspect as well.

I'm sure Vicki's net worth is closer to $7,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.02 because she WORKS dammit!

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With Vicki and Donn 's stated assets and awards. I'm guessing the Vickster has very little equity in the Coto home.  I love that house especially the back yard that is to die for.

 

I put Yolanda's crib from RHoBH  at he top of my Housewife House Porn List!

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Vicki, Vicki, Vicky. I can barely look at her now. The thought of all those procedures and how she ruined her face is just crazy! The chin implant and whatever else she did ruined her looks. I do love her new haircut...so much better. I agree, her neck doesn't match her face. Can't you get a neck lift? Cracker Jacks from RHONJ did some kind of neck procedure. If you are going to lift your face, you need to match your neck...just like your make up foundation! Please cover up your girls. If not, do us a favor and get a new set. Sheesh.

 

I heard an ad on the radio yesterday for a laser treatment for sagging necks and thought of Vicki.

 

Yeah, Kitten59.  That was almost a comedy bit.   I've never understood (or been able to play-act) that every baby is beautiful.  Often they're just not.  My first baby was a funny-looking little guy for at least a year--nothing cute about him. It was obvious to me.  Strangers and friends...when first seeing him would say things like, "OH! What blue eyes," or "I bet he's a good baby."  I was almost insulted by those people saying he was a beautiful baby.  He grew into a very cute/handsome kid...and has now settled into an average-looking middle-aged man.  

 

When my nephew was born he was not cute.  At all.  He looked like a little troll.  My mom wouldn't let me say anything to my sister and made me pretend that he was cute.  He's grown into a really cute kid, so it worked out, I guess.  I said something to my sister about a year ago about how he was not cute when he was born and mom made me blow smoke up her ass and she started laughing so hard and was like "He was a troll!  Did she think I didn't know!?"

 

I see your point about the relative worth of goods when you have a high income; but still, one can get poor pretty fast buying $20K necklaces at the drop of the hat, $30K bags.  We've all heard the stories about the rich who lived far too lavishly and now can't pay their bills.  Hell, the RHO franchises has tons of those stories.  So, if I were the sole breadwinner, of course, I'd want my signficant other to enjoy a treat.  But when you want to drop what could be a downpayment on house for a purse, I'd think a consultation with the spouse might be in order.  

 

I don't think that view is archaic.  To me, it has to do with mutual respect that you aren't running up bills on extravagant items.  However, I agree that Vicki's attitude in general about SAHMs is obnoxious.  And she shouldn't hold herself up to that standard when she's got a moocher living off her!

 

I don't think $30k is a down payment for any house Heather is going to live in.  It's all relative.  I kind of freaked out about my car costing as much as a house, but I realized that I'm never going to live in a $65k house, so it really isn't like a house to me.

 

I seriously give those figures the side-eye. For one thing, Carol Radziwill herself has claimed the amount for her is far from true. The other thing is that the amounts have always remained consistent over the years, while I am sure they have grown or decreased for some. Kyle's net worth was listed at the same figure when she started the show years ago, and that was before Mauricio started The Agency and started making some serious bank. I actually think she is probably the richest HW.

 

A big clue for me is it says Lisa Vanderpump makes $500k per season, but Yolanda makes $100k per episode.  I do not buy at all that Yolanda makes so much more than Lisa and doubt any of the figures are trust worthy.  

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"People have asked me why I decided to share my story at the reunion. I can tell you this, IT WAS'NT MY PLAN! (even the producers were shocked)," she wrote on Facebook on Tuesday (October 20). "I worried a lot the past few weeks about what I had shared and if it was the wrong thing to do? But in my heart I knew God wanted me to share it...to help other people going through the same pain. I don't care to share the personal details, there are so many horrible lies that were fed to the press and all I can say is don't believe what you read."

http://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/tamra-judge-real-housewives-orange-county-explains-discussing-estranged-daughter

OKies, Tamra. I don't believe what I read.

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"People have asked me why I decided to share my story at the reunion. I can tell you this, IT WAS'NT MY PLAN! (even the producers were shocked)," she wrote on Facebook on Tuesday (October 20). "I worried a lot the past few weeks about what I had shared and if it was the wrong thing to do? But in my heart I knew God wanted me to share it...to help other people going through the same pain. I don't care to share the personal details, there are so many horrible lies that were fed to the press and all I can say is don't believe what you read."http://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/tamra-judge-real-housewives-orange-county-explains-discussing-estranged-daughter

OKies, Tamra. I don't believe what I read.

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Hmm does any of that apply to Brooks too? Not wanting to share the personal details? Lies fed to the press? Not being able to believe what you read? Maybe God wanted him to share...to help other people going through the same pain?
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"People have asked me why I decided to share my story at the reunion. I can tell you this, IT WAS'NT MY PLAN! (even the producers were shocked)," she wrote on Facebook on Tuesday (October 20). "I worried a lot the past few weeks about what I had shared and if it was the wrong thing to do? But in my heart I knew God wanted me to share it...to help other people going through the same pain. I don't care to share the personal details, there are so many horrible lies that were fed to the press and all I can say is don't believe what you read."

http://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/tamra-judge-real-housewives-orange-county-explains-discussing-estranged-daughter

OKies, Tamra. I don't believe what I read.

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I seriously hope that her storyline ends up being the thing that costs her the most and she gets dumped.

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With Vicki and Donn 's stated assets and awards. I'm guessing the Vickster has very little equity in the Coto home.  I love that house especially the back yard that is to die for.

 

I put Yolanda's crib from RHoBH  at he top of my Housewife House Porn List!

I like all the Malibu homes best. Camille's was lovely and so is Eileen's which some editing or decorators help.
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For me, and this is just my opinion, what Vicki brings is the comedy.

 

 

I don't recall ever finding Vicki funny.  It was always embarrassing seeing her in different countries acting like an entitled bitch.  The "Whoo-Hoo" that everyone seems to like is old, grating, and needs to be muffled!  Yeah...no redeeming qualities as far as I'm concerned.   One of us has to leave.

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  I can actually see Vicki's point about working.  What if Shannon & David got a divorce and it turned out David was seriously bankrupt.  What would Shannon do?  What did she do before she married David?  I guess she could always pry the precious gems out of her teeth. 

Whether they are married or not if David is seriously bankrupt Shannon would have to get a job or David find a new one.  Shannon's degree is in Business Administration with an emphasis in Finance.  My guess is she would return to the workplace and downsize her lifestyle ala Tammy Knickerbocker.

 

Working as a mom isn't for everyone.  All these women work by virtue of doing the show.  Heather now has another job.  It is just that Tamra and Vicki's salary is the primary support of their households.

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can someone please tell me what 'og' stands for...i tried 'olde granddame' but that doesn't work..

 

 

Although I prefer OGRE  (Cheerio's),  "O.G." was coined by the L.A. Crips  in the 70s meaning Original Gangster.

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Am I the only one who believes that Vicki is - even as we speak - setting up her victim story for next season? It will be all about how Brooks betrayed her. How he played with her. She will give the details of how she supported him financially, how she trusted him, and how ultimately he did her wrong and she is just trying to pick up the pieces and move forward? Supposedly she is now saying that "lawyers are involved" with regard to him, so I can see her making the most of this drama next year.

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Although I prefer OGRE  (Cheerio's),  "O.G." was coined by the L.A. Crips  in the 70s meaning Original Gangster.

 

In Vicki's case O.G should stand for Old Grandma of the OC

 

 

Shannon - perpetually put upon.  A tangerine bloated her?  Really??  I can actually see Vicki's point about working.  What if Shannon & David got a divorce and it turned out David was seriously bankrupt.  What would Shannon do?  What did she do before she married David?  I guess she could always pry the precious gems out of her teeth.

 

IIRC, Shannon is worth many, many millions of dollars. Her grandparent started a dept store and Shannon inherited a fortune. I think the bulk of their money, and the funds to build her house,came from her. David's money is just gravy.

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.  Hasn't it been proven that the ladies don't wear their own clothing for the reunion? That it is chosen by Bravo as well as their makeup and hair? And they usually do a piss poor job. 

 

 

 

 

I think they pick their own clothes. Bravo does hair and makeup but they make the decision on how they want to wear their hair and makeup. Remember last year they showed the clip of the stylist asking Heather if she wanted bangs? And then they cut them and she looked awful?

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Shannon's grandpa was the president of a department store chain that is now defunct. He was thus an employee and not owner of I. Magnin - an executive of his order would have would have made a handsome salary but nothing especially exorbitant. She does seem to have had some relatively substantial family money at some point but David's business, being freeway and road construction, would net millions in public/government funds on a relatively steady basis unlike, say, private real estate . . . Joyce Giraud noted that she was forced to wear her season 4 BH reunion frock. And, of course, Andy has taken to implementing color schemes for the black casts. Some of the vets may enjoy a degree of latitude in their wardrobe choice but it's definitely not a uniform free-for-all . . . Don't know if this has yet been posted but Brooks sat for an interview with E!Online that was just released: http://m.eonline.com/news/708550/brooks-ayers-tells-all-about-his-real-housewives-of-orange-county-co-stars-watch-the-full-interview-now

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Icky as "old grandma" suits her, if anything does.

She is disgusting. I cringe every time she opens her yap. You know some crude sh** is coming if she is not whining about being a victim. She only has two speeds, crude/uncouth and whiny victim.

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It bothers me that Meghan has a perpetual sneer on her face.  Is she ever happy? She's the mean girl grown up.  Honestly, can't you just picture her in high school hanging with her cool girl clique and making the same mean comments while using her investigative super powers to bring another girl down?  I wonder if she wants Jim's other kids to be her own as well.  I bet their mother would not be thrilled.

 

This times a bajillion.  Even when she was laughing, it looked forced/fake and had a sneer to it.

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I think they pick their own clothes. Bravo does hair and makeup but they make the decision on how they want to wear their hair and makeup. Remember last year they showed the clip of the stylist asking Heather if she wanted bangs? And then they cut them and she looked awful?

They absolutely pick their own clothes. The rumor they didn't started with Joyce, but I never believed it. They would be screaming like crazy women if Bravo picked their clothes. The reunion has in large part become about what they wear and how they look. They can get away with saying all kinds of crazy shit if they look good doing it. It's like the Oscars for these women. On the NY show, both Lu and Sonja wore garments from their "collection". For the most part, they pick the same type of frocks they wear all the time. Tamra will always wear something way too short, and Vicki will always want to have her sad old breasts displayed - just like they do on the show. I didn't like what Heather wore for the most part because I hate the cut-out dresses, but it is in line with the fact that she is generally smart enough to show off the part of her body that looks the best - her arms and shoulders. Just like she usually does on the show.

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For some reason, Vicki ordering cab wine in Italy really showed me what an eternal dumbass she is. 

 

 

It was so Vicki. She is in Italy and asking for a California Cab and doesn't understand why the waiter has no idea what she is talking about. 

I have to actually defend Vicki a wee bit on this one. I saw the episode and all the comments afterward back on TWoP about Vicki trying to order a "California Cab" in Italy. What she actually did was tell the waiter that she wanted a red wine and that she liked California wines like "Cabs" so did he have a wine similar to a Cab? Not totally stupid, but of course, being Vicki, she was babbling and not at all attempting to communicate clearly to the Italian waiter, didn't even bother to say "Cabernet" fully. So yeah, it was dumb because she acted as if he should just understand her rambling, but not quite as dumb as thinking they had bottles of some California Cabernets in their cellar. 

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Sorry...I'm the one who answered about the "origin" of OG.   I thought that was the question.

Yes of course that is the origin. I was talking about how it relates to the HW/show and how it came about. Vicki didn't call herself that, it cane from Jenni's rap.

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I like all the Malibu homes best. Camille's was lovely and so is Eileen's which some editing or decorators help.

 

Yes, I forgot about Camlle's! That is sheer nirvana. Eileen's would rank higher if it weren't for the clutter of stchuff.

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This times a bajillion.  Even when she was laughing, it looked forced/fake and had a sneer to it.

 

ITA.  There are only three facial expressions I've seen on Meghan; smug, sneer, and blank.

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They absolutely pick their own clothes. The rumor they didn't started with Joyce, but I never believed it.

Pure spec on my part, but maybe she was wearing something that didn't look good on camera (i.e. a color or print that would show up weird onscreen) and production made her wear something else.

Not a fan of any of the reunion dresses this year, I wish they had a theme like RHOA did.

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I seriously hope that her storyline ends up being the thing that costs her the most and she gets dumped.

Me too!

Furthermore, I demand proof Tamra has an actual beating heart.

Does anyone else wonder what higher power Tamra actually communicates with?

ITA. There's only three facial expressions I've seen on Meghan; smug, sneer, and blank.

L O L!

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For some reason, Vicki ordering cab wine in Italy really showed me what an eternal dumbass she is. 

If memory serves, Vicki's mother bitched and moaned about what as on the menu. Oh! Vicki got something with truffles in it Boy, we laughed about that...

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They absolutely pick their own clothes. The rumor they didn't started with Joyce, but I never believed it. They would be screaming like crazy women if Bravo picked their clothes. The reunion has in large part become about what they wear and how they look. They can get away with saying all kinds of crazy shit if they look good doing it. It's like the Oscars for these women. On the NY show, both Lu and Sonja wore garments from their "collection". For the most part, they pick the same type of frocks they wear all the time. Tamra will always wear something way too short, and Vicki will always want to have her sad old breasts displayed - just like they do on the show. I didn't like what Heather wore for the most part because I hate the cut-out dresses, but it is in line with the fact that she is generally smart enough to show off the part of her body that looks the best - her arms and shoulders. Just like she usually does on the show.

 

Motorcitymom - Haha! Love the descriptions of what they wear all the time! I was also disappointed in Heather's dress this year. Like you I'm not a fan of cut-out dresses but at least Heather still kept it classy by not having the cut-outs in an inappropriate place, unlike Tamara who looked like a hooker with her tummy cut-outs. I always look forward to seeing what Heather's wearing on the show. I don't care much for her personality but I love the fact that she knows how to dress. She has an enviable figure and knows how to show it off in a tasteful, age appropriate manner. She is proof you can be over age 40 or 50 and still dress stylish (no mumu's or polyester pantsuits) and dress to show off a great figure and not look like trailer trash on the way home from the local bar (looking at you Vicki and Tamra)

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David says; “It’s so bad for Briana – she has to tell the truth or she has to lie for her mom,” lamented David. “It’s ridiculous. It’s a horrible position to put your daughter in.”

Not nearly as horrible a position as giving your daughter your wedding band to give to her mother (your wife) with the message that you don't want it anymore!

Asshole.

Word!

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I have always thought that Carole R. is doing the show because she was close to broke.    She was not a Kennedy.  Jackie cut Caroles mother in law (her sister) off years before she died.

 

Wouldn't Carole R. have money from her husband's side of the family or is all they have to their name is a rusty euro title.

 

But that euro title is nothing compared to the title "OG of the OC".

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According to Adriana (RHM):

 

In a new interview with Possessionista — run by the authority on all TV-related fashion, Dana Weiss — cast member Adriana de Moura dishes on exactly what goes down when it comes to dressing for the reunion tapings. Adriana, who rocked a Parker sequin ombre dress, Miu Miu heels, and Roni Blanshay jewelry, says each woman has to submit five possible outfits for consideration.

 

http://www.wetpaint.com/do-the-real-housewives-of-miami-get-to-choose-their-own-reunion-outfits-adriana-de-moura-tells-all-758088/

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Wouldn't Carole R. have money from her husband's side of the family or is all they have to their name is a rusty euro title.

 

But that euro title is nothing compared to the title "OG of the OC".

Prince Radziwill died 30 million in debt/  Jackie Onassis left Anthony Radziwill $500,000.00-her will is available on line. 

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I read the article in the link Scrambled Fog provided above.  For some reason I love this silly sentence of Shannon's: “It discredits our authenticity.”    From now on I'm going to try to live my life without discrediting my authenticity. Ever!

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I watched the 22 minute video with David and Shannon.  It was very disconnected as they were doing shout outs to the people of Facebook and trying to answer questions.  David is not a Vicki fan-apparently last year she told Terry and Heather, David hit on her. Hmmm. . .I see a pattern with Vicki and Briana.  He vehemently denies it.  They seemed very cozy-Shannon and David kept answering sports questions.  All is well between the Edmonds, Beadors, Judges and Dubrows.   

 

Shannon said Vicki lied about not taking something apparently she had to leave for a bit.  Shannon was adamant she never confronted Brooks or told him he was lying.  She said she got roped into a story by Vicki.  Shannon must have said 15 times Parts 2 & 3 of the Reunion are epic.  David doesn't seem to hold anything against Brooks.  Shannon commented that Brooks was sure making the rounds with interviews.  Someone asked David if he still speaks to his "ex", Shannon rather calmly replied-the affair, David said absolutely not and Shannon said it had been 18 months ago. The cuddle and do a little PDA.  Someone asked if their kids watch and they said their kids aren't interested.  Shannon said if she was a kid she would be watching and rewinding.

 

Forgiveness did not seem to be off the table between Shannon and Vicki per Shannon.  Shannon was quick to answer she would come back next year.  David said he had some concerns about being lied to throughout the season.  He also mentioned nothing happens until January and then they will decide what to do.


I read the article in the link Scrambled Fog provided above.  For some reason I love this silly sentence of Shannon's: “It discredits our authenticity.”    From now on I'm going to try to live my life without discrediting my authenticity. Ever!

Smart to read the article the video is really hard to follow.

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