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15 hours ago, Perkie said:

He did an episode of Grey's Anatomy a couple of weeks ago and he was really good.  

I'm no sure GA is really a step up from GH writing-wise, but still!

15 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

The Jake/Jason stuff was pretty good, though Miller's actually kind of awkward with kids, heh. I wish Jason would use Jake's name more instead of calling him "son." 

This. I find BM so bad in the kid scenes. Although I think he's pretty bad and awkward in most scenes.

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The British doctor looked really familiar.

I thought so, too. Him and the DA looked so familiar to me but I couldn't place either of them.

14 hours ago, ulkis said:

When they showed the previews I realized I didn't think, "hey what happened to Nelle?" once.

LMAO right! Has Nelle been passed out behind the crates on the dock for like a full day and no one in PC cared? That's hilarious and I love it.

ETA: Is anyone having trouble posting? Every time I post it takes forever for it to load and then everything's doubled in the post.

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17 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

The kid playing Jake was like straight-up fantastic today. He should quit GH because he can do way better!

The Anna/Valentin/Alex stuff is beyond stupid. I can't believe there was a time I was actually interested in this story.

Why is Alexis wearing that horrible, ill-fitting outfit again? Every scene involving Julian was so stupid. Who was the actor playing the DA? Also, I thought the DA was a woman the last time they were on. LOL.

AIDEN! He's so cute. Poor Cam, still not allowed out of the attic. I'm gonna hope it's because they're in the process of recasting him with a teen.

Christopher B. Duncan aka Braxton P. Hartnabrig! ™The Jamie Foxx Show

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Can someone tell me who this guy is and why I'm supposed to care?

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A little birdie told us @SeattleRefined's @GaardSwanson makes a cameo on today's #GH & holds his own against @TheRealStafford.

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22 hours ago, LexieLily said:

Franco tells the woman he sexually assaulted that they have to deal with each other and expects her to thank him for attacking her husband violently with no provocation, under the guise of "helping". Liz tells them to knock it off like they aren't doing anything more than fighting over a toy. I know Jason needed to talk to Jake, but why would he leave Sam alone with these two?

Better question: why did Sam even have to go to the park with Jason?  

The kid playing Jake was the best actor on today's show.  

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3 hours ago, tricknasty said:

Christopher B. Duncan aka Braxton P. Hartnabrig! ™The Jamie Foxx Show

I know him as Clarence Wiedman (head of security for Kane Software on Veronica Mars).

I'm having posting problems too.

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Nelle has problems with her remaining kidney because of the attack. That wasn't forecast and set up at all.

Valentin is going to freak on Nina that Nina let Lulu have an overnight with Charlotte. I love it. But if no one came to pick up Charlotte from Lulu's, and Nina was at the MetroCourt and Valentin was with Alex, how did Charlotte get to Lulu's in the first place?

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4 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

But if no one came to pick up Charlotte from Lulu's, and Nina was at the MetroCourt and Valentin was with Alex, how did Charlotte get to Lulu's in the first place?

Charlotte was at school, I think, and it apparently called Lulu to pick up Charlotte. When did Lulu's name get added to the approved-grownups list?

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Just like the Nelle story, the Anna/Alex story could have been so classically soapy and fun - and I've been a fan of them using Anna/Alex's AMC history from the start - but it's so dumbly written.  And Anna being held prisoner in a hospital a la Robin feels so repetitive.

I hope "scout trip" is code for "FINALLY being SORAS-ed".  Otherwise, Cameron's absence from these last two episodes - and the show making sure to point it out - is beyond bizarre.

So much blah blah blah who cares about Charlotte today.

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6 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Alex and Anna should have been in cahoots.

YES!  That would have been much more fun!

Also, maybe people like Felicia and Mac could have been in the story, instead of Griffin and Andre being the ones to puzzle about Anna's off behavior?

And seriously, what is this show doing with Griffin?  Sitting around having ice cream with his faux daughter of five minutes?  Why?

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Lulu/Nina/Charlotte today is the perfect example of how a simple story is so poorly written. First, there is NO way Lulu is permitted to pick up Charlotte from school. There is NO way the school would call her because there is NO way she is on an emergency call list.  She had supervised visitation, she is on a school WATCH list, not a call list. Second, the school would have called both Valentin and Nina again and again and then the emergency contact who would NOT be Lulu. Third, I'm suppose to believe Nina doesn't pick up the phone to call Valentin or Nelle? Not once?  Fourth, although Lulu is technically in the right for being worried about what happened with the pick up for Charlotte, she brats so insufferably that any sympathy I held for her vanishes. Once again, you see in her greedy opportunistic eyes, a chance for her to get her way and to self righteously sneer about Valentin's bad parenting when her ass is restricted to supervised visitation because she is a moron who couldn't put Charlotte's needs ahead of her own. Hence her immediate demand that Charlotte come home with her.  Fifth, there is NO way Nina would give Charlotte to Lulu for an overnight.  Just one ridiculous scene after another, not a moment of it believable.

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I get that Lulu's concerned about Charlotte, but I really didn't like her pressuring Nina about her marriage. It's not her place to be privy to the ins and outs of Nina and Valentin's relationship. And as much as Lulu tried to claim that Charlotte was upset about not being picked up on time, she seemed pretty chill while eating her ice cream.

The Liz and Franco scenes epitomized one of the major problems with this pairing. She asks him to be honest with her so they're on the same page, he does the opposite, but all is forgiven because he loves her and is good with Jake. His lack of boundaries is not cute, and his many declarations of love can't overcome that.

Why does Griffin have a finger in every pie but no storyline of his own? Seriously, the actor's good, he meshes well with everyone, so why is he relegated to playing backup in other people's stories? 

Everything involving Anna and Alex was lame. One's trying to be coy and screaming the word chimera, the other is thinking in amazingly poetic terms while fighting off the effects of a sedative. It's all such a boring mess.

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LOL that Jake shot down doing an act for the Nurses Ball with Franco. I don't think I've liked Jake more.

"As Charlotte's mother, I'm entitled to know what the hell is going on!" Uh, you're not, Lulu. What happens between Nina and Valentin is between them.

2 minutes ago, Linny said:

And as much as Lulu tried to claim that Charlotte was upset about not being picked up on time, she seemed pretty chill while eating her ice cream.

And she's being chaperoned by the on-again, off-again priest. Charlotte is fine. 

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2 minutes ago, Vella said:

Third, I'm suppose to believe Nina doesn't pick up the phone to call Valentin or Nelle? Not once?

Sure, why not, she's unstable and pissed at Valentin right now.

I think they can't decide who to put Griffin with . . . if that's the case, why not just hire him a new love interest. Get rid of Nina or Ava. There, done.

This show needs to start choosing to let go of some people. I'm all for letting the pre Frank people go. Let his mega soap stand on its own.

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3 minutes ago, Vella said:

Lulu/Nina/Charlotte today is the perfect example of how a simple story is so poorly written. First, there is NO way Lulu is permitted to pick up Charlotte from school. There is NO way the school would call her because there is NO way she is on an emergency call list.  She had supervised visitation, she is on a school WATCH list, not a call list. Second, the school would have called both Valentin and Nina again and again and then the emergency contact who would NOT be Lulu. Third, I'm suppose to believe Nina doesn't pick up the phone to call Valentin or Nelle? Not once?  Fourth, although Lulu is technically in the right for being worried about what happened with the pick up for Charlotte, she brats so insufferably that any sympathy I held for her vanishes. Once again, you see in her greedy opportunistic eyes, a chance for her to get her way and to self righteously sneer about Valentin's bad parenting when her ass is restricted to supervised visitation because she is a moron who couldn't put Charlotte's needs ahead of her own. Hence her immediate demand that Charlotte come home with her.  Fifth, there is NO way Nina would give Charlotte to Lulu for an overnight.  Just one ridiculous scene after another, not a moment of it believable.

That part makes no sense. Valentin and Nina wouldn't have put Lulu on the list so how did she get there?

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If I'm supposed to care about the chimera, how about telling me what it is? This show takes way too long to reveal info like this, and by the time I find out, I'm sick of the tease and couldn't care less. 

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 Don't care for this "Anna in Peril," storyline.  Too many holes......like when, where & how did this switch take place. Nobody in PC questioning "Fake Anna's" strange behavior. Too bad it isn't Robert or Luke helping her escape the clutches of that nasty doctor.

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36 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

LOL that Jake shot down doing an act for the Nurses Ball with Franco. I don't think I've liked Jake more.

Maybe he remembered, like I did, how Franco helped him last year.  He did initially help him over his initial onstage jitters, but then he moved to the back of the stage with the big, shiny silver microphone and moved left, then right, then left, then right, while waving the big shiny silver microphone, totally upstaging the little kid on front center stage. Way to be professional, Howarth. 

I had totally managed to forget that episode until Freako's line today about what a good team they were. Now I'm angry that he got away with it and disgusted that he's considered a professional all over again. 

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26 minutes ago, honeydo7 said:

like when, where & how did this switch take place.

The nurse said she was found unconscious in "her" appartment.  So I'm guessing Anna went to visit Alex to discuss Valentin.  Alex did something to her, knocked her out, then headed to PC.  Dr. Lancaster is in cahoots with her, so he keeps Anna drugged out and unable to go after Alex.  At least, that's the story I've made up while waiting for Jelly's stupider version.  

 

44 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

That part makes no sense. Valentin and Nina wouldn't have put Lulu on the list so how did she get there?

Maybe after spending half an hour trying to locate the right people, maybe Charlotte told them to call Lulu.  

 

46 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Uh, you're not, Lulu. What happens between Nina and Valentin is between them.

Welll........I'll disagree here and say that if Vina are having marital problems to the point where no one picks up the child from school, then it does become someone else's problem.  Charlotte could have decided to leave school on her own to find her father/nanny, then where would they all be.  

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33 minutes ago, honeydo7 said:

 Don't care for this "Anna in Peril," storyline.  Too many holes......like when, where & how did this switch take place. Nobody in PC questioning "Fake Anna's" strange behavior. Too bad it isn't Robert or Luke helping her escape the clutches of that nasty doctor.

I mean a throwaway line from Anna a couple months ago like 'Mac and Felicia are off on their European Cruise this tuesday!' or to Robin: 'Your father is deep undercover at the moment. So I don't wan't to contact him yet. It would be an unnecessary distraction' would solve a lot of their problems. But why have this story make sense?! 

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6 minutes ago, Perkie said:

The nurse said she was found unconscious in "her" appartment.  So I'm guessing Anna went to visit Alex to discuss Valentin.  Alex did something to her, knocked her out, then headed to PC.  Dr. Lancaster is in cahoots with her, so he keeps Anna drugged out and unable to go after Alex.  At least, that's the story I've made up while waiting for Jelly's stupider version.  

All I remember, as far as an explanation, is that Griffin made a comment that maybe Valentin mixed Anna up with someone else, Anna made a weird face, and then said something about taking a trip.  When next we saw her, she was "Anna".

Of course, none of this explains why Alex is acting like this.  I know some kind of mental brainwashing or conditioning is (a ridiculously retconned) part of Alex's back story, but I'm not sure if that's what's supposed to be going on here.  It's much easier/lazier for the writers if Alex is just Anna's EVUL twin.

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1 minute ago, TeeVee329 said:

All I remember, as far as an explanation, is that Griffin made a comment that maybe Valentin mixed Anna up with someone else, Anna made a weird face, and then said something about taking a trip.  When next we saw her, she was "Anna".

Yes.    Which is why, today, when the nurse mentioned that "Alex" was found unconscious in her place, I figured Anna went looking for Alex after Griffin said that to her, and Alex and the doctor orchestrated this whole thing.  

I can't tell if Alex is brainwashed or doing this of her own volition.  When she was talking to whoever on the phone, last week, it certainly sounded like she knew what was going on.  But all the chimera yelling makes me wonder about her sanity.  

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6 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Welll........I'll disagree here and say that if Vina are having marital problems to the point where no one picks up the child from school, then it does become someone else's problem.  Charlotte could have decided to leave school on her own to find her father/nanny, then where would they all be.  

Nina didn't seem all too concerned that Charlotte didn't get picked up from school on time and she had no clue that Nelle had quit before Michael told her. Look, I get Nina is pissed at Valentin and left him, but come on. At least have a general idea that the nanny quit and what is going on with the stepchild you claim to love so much and say Lulu is such a bad mother for.

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i have no idea about annas twin. i didnt watch her on amc. the whole story makes no sense to me.  sick of seeing valentin ,ana/alex,nina have the same conversation. 

what is that chimera thing Jake has ? it looks like a coffee thermos. can they just end this charlote story. how will this girl ever understand about frozen embryos and stolen sperm. its so gross.

why does sonny get so many women?why did he sleep with carlys lawyer?

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17 minutes ago, Perkie said:

I'll disagree here and say that if Vina are having marital problems to the point where no one picks up the child from school, then it does become someone else's problem.  Charlotte could have decided to leave school on her own to find her father/nanny, then where would they all be.  

Nelle was supposed to pick up Charlotte. There was no reason for her to quit in the middle of the day. Pick up the kid, drop her off at home where there's other staff, and then quit. Nina and Valentin's marital issues weren't the problem here. It's pure plot point that neither answered their phones.

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23 minutes ago, lor said:

why did he sleep with carlys lawyer?

They were a one night stand.  He didn't know she was Carly's lawyer until the next day, when she showed up for the hearing.  

 

20 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Nina and Valentin's marital issues weren't the problem here. It's pure plot point that neither answered their phones

I will agree that it's stupid that Nina, wouldn't have checked her phone messages all day, so didn't get Nelle's message that she wanted to quit.  Maybe she was avoiding her phone so that she wouldn't have to deal with Valentin.   Your point was that Lulu has no business knowing what's going on in the Vina marriage but my point was that the problems in the marriage led to Charlotte being forgotten.  Valentin was determined to get his marriage back on track by confronting Anna, so not paying attention to his phone.  Nina was busy trying to ignore him, thereby not checking messages to find out that nanny had quit.  The Vina marital issues are what caused Charlotte to be left alone, thereby her security compromised, therefore Lulu's business.  

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3 hours ago, ulkis said:

Sure, why not, she's unstable and pissed at Valentin right now.

I think they can't decide who to put Griffin with . . . if that's the case, why not just hire him a new love interest. Get rid of Nina or Ava. There, done.

This show needs to start choosing to let go of some people. I'm all for letting the pre Frank people go. Let his mega soap stand on its own.

If I were the actor playing Griffin, I'd be quite disappointed in this show STILL not knowing what to do with me after what? Just a little over a year now? No story of my own? No woman? I thought like most did at the time, that he and Maxie were going to become a couple. It seemed so likely and so right at the time. It also would have given Nathan another reason to re-develop animosity towards Griffin. It would have been the second time that Griffin "stole" a woman away from him.

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I don't even know what the hell I just watched because I was too busy trying to figure out why Liz's kids were going to sleep for the night while Lulu was strolling into the MetroCourt with Charlotte for a hot fudge sundae, allegedly not too long after school was dismissed. It's May, is Charlotte in school until 8 or 9pm? I know, Nelle and Valentin didn't show up and somehow Lulu was notified but how many hours was Charlotte waiting? Did she not eat dinner and have a hot fudge sundae instead? Why am I wondering any of this when the writers don't care at all, about anything?

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9 minutes ago, Syndicate said:

If I were the actor playing Griffin, I'd be quite disappointed in the show STILL not knowing what to do with me after what? Just a little over a year now? No story of my own? No woman? I thought like most did at the time, that he and Maxie were going to become a couple. It seemed so likely and so right at the time. It also would have given Nathan another reason to re-develop animosity towards Griffin. It would have been the second time that Griffin "stole" a woman away from him.

I think KSt's issues put a stop to that. 

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3 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I know him as Clarence Wiedman (head of security for Kane Software on Veronica Mars).

That's it! Thanks.

15 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Too bad Griffin and Elizabeth will never happen.

I still want to know what happened there. They were clearly going to do a Griffin/Liz/Franco triangle and then it just disappeared before it even really began. So weird.

The actor that plays Charlotte is really good. They're lucky her and Jake are charming and competent because otherwise these stories would be even more unbearable.

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39 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

I still want to know what happened there. They were clearly going to do a Griffin/Liz/Franco triangle and then it just disappeared before it even really began. So weird.

According to Digest, enough fans apparently actually bought and liked Franco and Elizabeth that they dropped it.

Never mind that it still makes Elizabeth look totally out of character.

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Everyone is trying so hard to apply logic to this crapfest. .... it can not be done.  The Powers That Be do not function in a logical manner thus NOTHING on this show makes any sense.  Yes, we the viewer deserve better but it will never happen.  GH is a logic free zone.  We just need to be thankful that we have this board to come to for reality checks from our fellow snarkers.  I think I enjoy coming here to snark with my fellow viewers more than I do watching the show.  

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2 hours ago, Syndicate said:

If I were the actor playing Griffin, I'd be quite disappointed in this show STILL not knowing what to do with me after what? Just a little over a year now? No story of my own? No woman? I thought like most did at the time, that he and Maxie were going to become a couple. It seemed so likely and so right at the time. It also would have given Nathan another reason to re-develop animosity towards Griffin. It would have been the second time that Griffin "stole" a woman away from him.

Yeah, I definitely thought they were going to pair Maxie and Griffin, they had all the typical "she walks in on him shirtless", "he has to escort her to a fancy party at the last minute" kinda scenes.  But then nada.  And almost worse, IMO, absolutely no interesting drama was ringed from Nathan shooting Griffin.  So dumb.

I dunno what happened with Liz, the show definitely blinked.  And then there was that random chem test with Ava, but that was weeks ago, right?  I'm surprised Amy 2.0 isn't all up on his jock too.

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2 hours ago, tveyeonyou said:

I don't even know what the hell I just watched because I was too busy trying to figure out why Liz's kids were going to sleep for the night while Lulu was strolling into the MetroCourt with Charlotte for a hot fudge sundae, allegedly not too long after school was dismissed. It's May, is Charlotte in school until 8 or 9pm? I know, Nelle and Valentin didn't show up and somehow Lulu was notified but how many hours was Charlotte waiting? Did she not eat dinner and have a hot fudge sundae instead? Why am I wondering any of this when the writers don't care at all, about anything?

Thank you! I just finished watching and couldn't figure that out either. It's late enough for Jake and Aiden to go to bed, but just s couple of hours since Nelle was attacked and just a short time after school ended for Charlotte? Lulu said she was waiting for 30 minutes at the school and the school finally called her. And it was still daylight at Anna's house. So what time do Elizabeth's kids go to bed???

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20 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

 I'm surprised Amy 2.0 isn't all up on his jock too.

Griffin isn't in a relationship that would allow Amy to go all Fatal Attraction on him, so he's not worthy of her affections. 

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Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but I found Anna and Alex's last scene from AMC (and, unbelievably, it seems like they might have been trying to set something up about Duke?!?!).  Notice how Alex doesn't seem like the type to knock her twin unconscious and have her held prisoner in a hospital.

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2 hours ago, Nalan said:

According to Digest, enough fans apparently actually bought and liked Franco and Elizabeth that they dropped it.

Never mind that it still makes Elizabeth look totally out of character.

Or they were worried about losing the Friz fanbase to Griffin's character. There isn't much else they could do with Franco if RoHo publicly lost his love interest to a more popular pairing, and a lot of people would root for anything that wasn't Franco 

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And what was up with Michael seeking out Nina, sitting down and telling her Nelle's business?  His main job is town gossip and busybody.  He listens in on Nelle leaving a message for Nina and then when he leaves Nelle, runs to Mama and tells her everything and then finds Nina and tells HER everything too. Why does this asshole not mind his own damned business for once?

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8 hours ago, Perkie said:

I will agree that it's stupid that Nina, wouldn't have checked her phone messages all day, so didn't get Nelle's message that she wanted to quit.  Maybe she was avoiding her phone so that she wouldn't have to deal with Valentin.   Your point was that Lulu has no business knowing what's going on in the Vina marriage but my point was that the problems in the marriage led to Charlotte being forgotten.  Valentin was determined to get his marriage back on track by confronting Anna, so not paying attention to his phone.  Nina was busy trying to ignore him, thereby not checking messages to find out that nanny had quit.  The Vina marital issues are what caused Charlotte to be left alone, thereby her security compromised, therefore Lulu's business.  

The whole Nell quits is crap. Who quits a nanny job via a voicemail? You want that last check. Unless you are in a real crisis or family emergency, you should give notice (face to face), collect your check and belongings, and say your goodbyes. Why the hell would Nell quit via vm to Nina? Especially since Valentin is probably the one signing her checks. This storyline is pure crap.

And there is no God damn way in hell Lulu would ever be allowed to pick up Charlotte from school. No fucking way is she on the pick up list. I'm sure that Valentin has other people/trusted employees ahead of Lulu. The stable boy, chamber maid, guard dog walker, or the assistant cook would on the approved to pick up Charlotte before Lulu.

And yeah, what the hell is going on with the time of day in PC? Liz is having a picnic on a school night? And Cam is off on a Scouting event on a school day? It would make more sense if the picnic was on the weekend or at least one the 1st or 2nd day of summer vacation. But at the same time Charlotte was in school? Does Charlotte go to the same school as the Webber boys or is she in private school? If only the writers had a brain to share.

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What is this ridiculous rumour I'm hearing that Nelle will have problems with her one kidney and need a donor and that Michael will be a match and donate one of his????

no one in town can be a donor for Nelle other than Joss, otherwise they would have been a donor for Joss in the first place.  Michael didn't match Joss all those years ago, therefore he can't be a match for her match, Nelle now.  

I swear if that's where they go with, imma do something.  There will be some scathing emails sent to someone. No idea who or what but something.  

 

Edited to add, I suppose anyone new in town, that wasn't there the first time around could be a match (Nina or Valentin),. But if they try to make it Michael...........

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I'm having a lot of trouble understanding a few things. Maybe you good folks can help a girl out?

1) This is a soap opera so, why aren't more people having sex?

2) When was the last time there was actual onscreen sex?

3) Why are there only 4 characters in the mid-twenties age range? And two of them are related by blood, and 2 by marriage?

4) Will we ever see Liez's boyssssssss Clement, Archibald, and NotDeadJake, together again?

5) Griffin is kinda hot, so why isn't he getting laid?

6) Why aren't the younger characters (besides Lulu's baby rabies) driving more story?

7) Why is there still too many damn characters?

8) Will Jelly be fired soon since we're at 17 straight weeks of low ratings?

9) Who among us will champion getting Uncle Frank kicked to the curb?

10) On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being cringe inducing shame, finger pointing, and hysterical laughter, how bad do we think this year's Nurse's Ball will be?

11) How much longer will this shit fest of a show carry on?

12) And finally, what will it take to get Roger Howarth the fuck away from daytime forever?

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12 hours ago, movingtargetgal said:

I think I enjoy coming here to snark with my fellow viewers more than I do watching the show.  

I'm pretty sure the only reason I can't bring myself to stop wathcing is because of this place.

12 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

iI'm surprised Amy 2.0 isn't all up on [Griffin's] jock too.

Give it time.

12 hours ago, Sake614 said:

So what time do Elizabeth's kids go to bed???

Clinton and Arlington are always in bed.

11 hours ago, Vella said:

Why does this asshole (Michael) not mind his own damned business for once?

He is his mother's son.

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Two back-to-back episodes without Sonny and Carly and things tend to get out of whack.

I'm pretty sure the sole reason I haven't hated these past 2 eps is simply that Sonny and Carly weren't in them.

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