Yeah. . . . Not a good case for either. Loyalty is good in the early goings, but when you're trying to win . . . that's just dumb. Which is why Woo's far from one of my favorites. And Tony is easily one the worst, not best, winners, since his paranoia should've gotten him kicked weeks before the end, and he was saved by so many other stupid decisions and that overpowered idol. Without either, he's gone. He got LUCKY to win Cagayan, and his early flame-out in Game Changers just validated those thoughts. And I don't know where you got it in your head that he's charismatic. He's not. At all.