Episode Discussion: TFGH

[Cheyanne11]

4 hours ago, Perkie said:

 

re, Lulu,. Why hasn't Dante pointed out to her that the embryo is part Stavros.  They seem to be glossing over that and it's a pretty big thing.

He's too busy supporting her "no matter what."

Yeah, it's all snips and snails and puppy dog tails until the neighborhood pets start disappearing.

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, stlbf said:

Why bother with Spencer, now?

Because threatening a kid is a go-to for bad people. If the show wants to give Valentin his evil bona fides (or do I mean his evil mala fides?), he needs to do more than sneer.

[TeeVee329]

I just can't believe we're back to MORE baby rabies with Lulu.  What is this, year four?  So sick of it.

[dubbel zout]

8 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

5 hours ago, Perkie said:

Why hasn't Dante pointed out to her that the embryo is part Stavros.  They seem to be glossing over that and it's a pretty big thing.

He's too busy supporting her "no matter what."

It'd be nice to see him talking about it to someone. If Olivia didn't have grandbaby rabies, I'd suggest her.

[ulkis]

2 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Because threatening a kid is a go-to for bad people. If the show wants to give Valentin his evil bona fides (or do I mean his evil mala fides?), he needs to do more than sneer.

I think it would just be his mala fides, cause otherwise we're in a "Manos: the Hands of Fate" situation, heh.

1 minute ago, TeeVee329 said:

I just can't believe we're back to MORE baby rabies with Lulu.  What is this, year four?  So sick of it.

Well there was last year where she had revenge rabies. I just wish she had targeted Dante instead/as well. 

[Sake614]

You know, thinking logically (wait, did I just use that word about GH???), there's no way Andre could have been the killer anyway. He just isn't tall enough. When you look back at the scenes of Valerie being knocked out, Lucas being injected etc. the killer towered over both. Now I realize Lucas isn't that tall, but still. It had to be either Paul or Franco. And since Franco is now supposed to be a viable love interest for Elizabeth, it was  never going to be him.

Still doesn't explain Paul's motive, but Jelly probably hasn't figured that out yet anyway.

[peachmangosteen]

5 hours ago, Perkie said:

People seem to be trying to hold out hope that Paul is not the killer, but if he isn't why was he walking around with the glove and the syringe.  Also if he is the killer why is he walking around with the glove and the syringe.  

LMAO!

15 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

He's too busy supporting her "no matter what."

Which tbh does make sense after he fucked her cousin in their marital bed, but the writers aren't really doing anything there because they're lazy. They expect us to do all the work and just create reasons and backstories and motivations for the characters to do all these insanely OOC and pointless and horrible things.

[Melgaypet]

5 hours ago, Perkie said:

People seem to be trying to hold out hope that Paul is not the killer, but if he isn't why was he walking around with the glove and the syringe.  Also if he is the killer why is he walking around with the glove and the syringe.  

Reasons! Helena! Commercial break!

[Francie]

16 hours ago, jsbt said:

since we've been told for 2-3 years now that Helena and Nik squandered the Cassadine fortune on mad scientists, hookers, zombies and blow ...

Such a wasted spin off opportunity.

[NutmegsDad]

57 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

2 hours ago, stlbf said:

Why bother with Spencer, now?

Because threatening a kid is a go-to for bad people

Does that count for Sonny with Kiki and the black rose?

[dubbel zout]

55 minutes ago, NutmegsDad said:

Does that count for Sonny with Kiki and the black rose?

When I wrote "threaten," I meant it in the hold-a-knife-to-the-throat/point-a-gun-at-the-head sense. Not send some dumb black rose that Lauren couldn't even figure out.

Oh, great. Now we have to listen to Liz and Rebecca Budig fight about her not pushing Liz down the stairs.

SMH that Nathan can have scenes with his sister, but Jasus forbid Lucas does. Or any other siblings that aren't Nathan and Nina.

Whoever tailored BW's dress did a terrible job.

"We're doing everything we can," says Andre, doing nothing. Hee.

Edited August 30, 2016 by dubbel zout

[TeeVee329]

Gawd, poor Felicia.  First, she had to hear about the Nathan/Griffin/Claudette nonsense from Maxie.  And then she got stuck talking to Nina at Dunkin' Corinthos.  At least she looked purdy.

Am I the only OLTL fan getting Eli flashbacks re: Paul?  The looking sharp in a suit, a woman being chucked down the stairs at a hospital, an ass pull of a reveal, etc. 

I swear, if the first character we give a crap about the show kills during this stupid hospital serial killer story is Monica...

Sick to death of Franco/Liz.

[Linny]

We see Felicia for about 30 minutes every four months, if that, and of course some of her screentime had to be devoted to a conversation with fucking Nina. Why does she have to be shoehorned into every storyline? I'm exhausted by the fact that there is seemingly no Nina free zone on this show.  At this point I'm expecting her to pop up out of the blue with Lulu's elusive embryo, which she'll then keep for herself. 

Claudette and Griffin are snoozeville. Two characters who appeared out of nowhere with an off screen back story=I don't give a shit. 

[dubbel zout]

Just now, Linny said:

Claudette and Griffin are snoozeville. Two characters who appeared out of nowhere with an off screen back story=I don't give a shit. 

Wow, they are boring. Please don't let Claudette's secret be a baby. It's bad enough Maxie got woozy when she stood up.

[TeeVee329]

Oh geez, I missed the previews, but I guess they showed Monica totally fine and talking to Jordan.  So they end on a cliffhanger and then immediately spoiled it in the previews.  This fuckin' show, can't do anything right.

[Syndicate]

If there was ever any doubt about Paul being the psycho, those doubts should have been quelled after today. Paul is creeping and lurking around the hospital with poisonous needles trying to stick whomever he can it seems. Now he wants Monica. I just want to know why Paul is a psycho now. Why did the Griffin/Claudette conversation sound like it was Claudette who shot Griffin? I'm assuming I misinterpreted that. Anyway, I knew we weren't going to learn anything about Claudette's motives for being in town when Griffin asked her what she wants from Nathan. Claud had a rather smug look on her face when she spied Felicia and Nina hugging on Maxie's and Nathan's behalf. Again, what does she know and what does she want?

[Syndicate]

19 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Wow, they are boring. Please don't let Claudette's secret be a baby. It's bad enough Maxie got woozy when she stood up.

And if it is a baby, that's lame. Surely she can't hope to steal Nathan using this angle when Nathan has already dealt with a similar situation regarding Maxie's child with another man.

Edited August 30, 2016 by Syndicate

[lovelynn]

Paul as the serial killer still makes no sense to me. I can't understand what his motive would be. Surprised that Ava doesn't have better self-preservation instincts though. Not sure why she didn't get her lackey to search Paul's room for something incriminating, not that she has ever shied away from doing her own dirty work. 

[IWantCandy71]

Aw well, I guess Paul IS guilty? I gave up on him when they gave RB to MW and ruined any potential Paul and Tracy had. Paul could still flip out and take Dillon and Tracy hostage and Tracy can take a bullet for her son. I'm good with that.

[TeeVee329]

Sadly, given how baby crazy this show is, I could totally see Claudette having a kid and it being a whole WTD thing between Nathan and Griffin.  While Maxie, I guess, does her nails and looks on?

I just can't with this whole Claudette story.  It's both super sucky and deathly boring.

Edited August 30, 2016 by TeeVee329

[ulkis]

15 minutes ago, Linny said:

We see Felicia for about 30 minutes every four months

Oh there is no way. I am sure she did not even have a solid hour of screentime total last year. Now I'm determined to confirm this. 

4 minutes ago, lovelynn said:

Paul as the serial killer still makes no sense to me. I can't understand what his motive would be. Surprised that Ava doesn't have better self-preservation instincts though. Not sure why she didn't get her lackey to search Paul's room for something incriminating, not that she has ever shied away from doing her own dirty work. 

Text I got from a GH watching friend:

PAUL IS THE SERIAL KILLER?!

That makes no sense!

[dubbel zout]

3 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Sadly, given how baby crazy this show is, I could totally see Claudette having a kid and it being a whole WTD thing between Nathan and Griffin.  While Maxie, I guess, does her nails and looks on?

Maxie will get all self-righteous, someone will point out she kept a baby's paternity a secret, blahblah hypocrites cakes, and we'll all be bored senseless regardless.

[ulkis]

20 minutes ago, Linny said:

We see Felicia for about 30 minutes every four months,

okay, I looked it up

http://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/53846-general-hospital-december-2015-and-year-end-episode-count/

She had 3 episodes total last year. I am 99% sure they did not even equal 30 minutes, let alone the hour I gave for maximum. 

Not that I am weeping for lack of Felicia, mind, but anyone > Nina, and also if Felicia's gonna be on, like you said, don't waste it on Nina!

Edited August 30, 2016 by ulkis

[Bringonthedrama]

First day I've watched GH in probably 6 months because of work and my reaction is so. much. WTF??

Nice to see Felicia, she looks fantastic - I'm genuinely surprised GH remembers they still have Kristina/Felicia and she is Maxie's mom. So some generic looking blond is Nathan's ex-wife, and is all about a doc/priest. Ok. Yawn.

What on Earth has the Nina actress done to her hair?! Although her dialogue today first with "J" (Nathan) and then Felicia was the most tolerable/normal I've seen her be since she was cast in this role- no repetition or odd mannerisms/gestures. 

I  assume RBudig's character and Elizabeth were arguing in the stairwell, and Elizabeth slipped or yanked away? WTF with NotTodd!Franco saying he'll be the man Elizabeth needs him to be?!?! Umm, if written true to character, she would never have anything to do with him because of two past specific actions: he arranged to kidnap her newborn, Aiden, from the hospital, and also had former sis-in-law Lulu strapped to a bomb.  She might forgive, but friends or anything  beyond that? HELL No. This is a woman who still has twinges of anger directed at Sam for watching a woman kidnap infant Jake.  Stop pushing to make NotTodd!Franco an acceptable character, Show!

Michael Easton is back playing what, a 4th or 5th character? Let me guess, he's yet another identical brother or cousin of Silas Clay? I wonder if Kelly M. struggles to remember his character's name at this point.

WTF is with Paul lurking behind Monica with a needle? He does remember that she is his son's aunt and Tracy's sis-in-law, yes? 

It is nice to watch an episode where neither Sonny, Jason, or any of their Mobby circle get mentioned.

[jsbt]

6 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said:

I don't even care anymore. I so need that last little shred of attachment to GH done and over with. I'm totally good with her dying protecting Dillon or Finn or anyone else, or it just being an accident.

I'm not.

42 minutes ago, Syndicate said:

Again, what does she know and what does she want?

More importantly, who cares?

Edited August 30, 2016 by jsbt

[Aurora2]

4 hours ago, ulkis said:

Dante's not exactly un-pod-like himself for about the past year, unfortunately.

Yes, they both are - but Lulu irritates me more.  Things sure do change, don't they.  Sigh. 

[YaddaYadda]

Just for the sake of being redundant...

THIS MAKES NO SENSE!

Uncle! Why try to understand anything when the writers constantly pull stuff out of their ass. They stink.

[Linny]

Damn, so Felicia appears even less than I realized. Oh well, if she were onscreen we'd just see her making a Concerned face at Maxie, or buying real estate from Lucy, or listening to Anna drone on about Dear Departed Duke. I bet she has a kickass off screen life with Mac, one that's full of Skype sessions with Robin and Emma.

[ulkis]

It was nice of the hospital to install Nem's old porn light, in honor of Emily I suppose. (Somewhere in the distance Nik is crying out "no service NO SERVICE!")

Monica: Last thing the hospital needs is another murder.

Okay, I guess one murder does nothing for a hospital's reputation, only when there are several will people start to frown upon things.

What a load of "who cares and who are you" are the Claudette/Griffin scenes.

Is all this "black magic" "you bring darkness with you" stuff supposed to be a shout-out to MC's Supernatural stint?

Nina didn't make me wanna rip off my ears once today, a record.

[FilmTVGeek80]

Quote

It was nice of the hospital to install Nem's old porn light, in honor of Emily I suppose. (Somewhere in the distance Nik is crying out "no service NO SERVICE!")

LMAO. To me that will never get old.

[Ambrosefolly]

Dear Jason, 

You know who else you could ask to be your Best Man without it being a complete slap in the face to Monica and AJ? Your nephew, Michael.

[ulkis]

I'm not sure he's still actually on this show.

[Darklazr]

Please, free Elizabeth from having to continue propping a serial killer rapist and prune face Hayden.

[Ambrosefolly]

7 minutes ago, Darklazr said:

Please, free Elizabeth from having to continue propping a serial killer rapist and prune face Hayden.

Not likely to happen. BH and Elizabeth get to be "rewarded" for her years on the show and strong fan base by being either thrown under the bus (and yes, she indeed was thrown under the bus) and/or prop FV's pets. 

[TeeVee329]

A little poll: If you could erase two of these Soap Superstar From Another Soap Playing A Spicy, Bitchy Bad Girl, but had to keep the third, which one would you keep?

[   ]     Nina

[   ]     Rebecca Budig (the character)

[   ]     Claudette

 

My ballot:

[X]  Rebecca Budig (the character).  She's getting way too much story, but I find her a lot less irritating than Nina or pointless than Claudette.

Edited August 30, 2016 by TeeVee329

[Francie]

If they gave Paul a list of people to kill -- starting with all new characters starting in 2012 or later* -- and gave him a monologue for each murder, I might just be tempted to row in from the barge.

*Applications for exceptions now being accepted. 

[ulkis]

16 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

A little poll: If you could erase two of these Soap Superstar From Another Soap Playing A Spicy, Bitchy Bad Girl, but had to keep the third, which one would you keep?

[   ]     Nina

[   ]     Rebecca Budig (the character)

[   ]     Claudette

 

My ballot:

[X]  Rebecca Budig (the character).  She's getting way too much story, but I find her a lot less irritating than Nina or pointless than Claudette.

I agree, I'd pick Rebecca Budig. I don't hate her, and she had actual chemistry with Nikolas, and I wouldn't mind her and Liz interacting in a non-cliche way.

[Fellaway]

31 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

A little poll: If you could erase two of these Soap Superstar From Another Soap Playing A Spicy, Bitchy Bad Girl, but had to keep the third, which one would you keep?

[   ]     Nina

[   ]     Rebecca Budig (the character)

[   ]     Claudette

 

My ballot:

[X]  Rebecca Budig (the character).  She's getting way too much story, but I find her a lot less irritating than Nina or pointless than Claudette.

I concur.
 

2 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I  assume RBudig's character and Elizabeth were arguing in the stairwell, and Elizabeth slipped or yanked away?

What we saw was a gloved hand pushing Elizabeth down the stairs.  We're to assume it was Paul, but I'm not so sure.  Holding out hope Paul is not on his way out!  He's by far not near the top of the list of newbies who need to go.  Elizabeth will, of course, think it was Hayden, because she saw her standing over her when she came to, but it wasn't Hayden.

[Oracle42]

I wouldn't mind Rebecca Budig character if she had less story. She's the main character (or one of them) in every story that she's in. I wouldn't even hate the Naomi story if it wasn't going to be all about Rebecca Budig character - the character as conceived an d written is just not interesting enough to warrant the airtime

Edited August 31, 2016 by Oracle42

[MostlyC]

Not my Hayden/Finn.  They are currently the one reason I keep watching.

[Auntie Velvet]

9 hours ago, NutmegsDad said:

It's too smart for Show. I've lost track of Paul's Moral Alignment, and I think they're spinning a wheel to decide what he is these days. He was answering to Fluke and then killed whatshisname for his daughter for retcon, and then shot Sonny so that Sonny could eat his spinach and beat up Bad Guy.

Show, you can stop trying to make Valentin happen as Most Feared Cassadine Evah. That three-second fight with Sonny and Jason sort of disproved it.

OK, after today's episode I have to admit that it's not looking so good for my man Paul. ;)  But he could have just been injecting himself in a quiet place! <severe denial>

[movingtargetgal]

Mr. Moving and I were just catching up on yesterdays episode.  When Paul was revealed as the killer, my hubby exclaimed "Oh my god, Bruce Hornsby is the hospital killer!".  To which I replied "And The Range were his first victims.".  I will never let him live that one down.

[Melgaypet]

1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

A little poll: If you could erase two of these Soap Superstar From Another Soap Playing A Spicy, Bitchy Bad Girl, but had to keep the third, which one would you keep?

[   ]     Nina

[   ]     Rebecca Budig (the character)

[   ]     Claudette

 

I vote for Rebecca Budig, also. I don't like Hayden much, but she is far less annoying and useless than the other two, and Budig is the best actress. In theory, Hayden and Liz as sisters could be interesting, though I have little hope that it will be in execution.

[RedheadZombie]

17 hours ago, twoods said:

Exactly! I get that she wants to have another kid, but for that kid to have the same DNA as a psychopath? I don't know why Dante is being supportive of this crazy idea.

So at least once a year a female falls down the stairs? At least she wasn't pregnant, but now it's all going to be pinned on Hayden. And I know I'm on the barge, but I did see some chemistry with Hayden and Finn today. Maybe I can tolerate them in small doses.

Paul is the killer? Another decent character repeatedly getting thrown under the bus- first for being Julian's partner against the Moobster and now this. I'm relieved it's not Andre.

Oh I would much prefer the killer be Andre - that actor makes Tree look like an emoting genius.  Paul had such promise and RB is an excellent actor who can play sinister, weasely, and even sympathetic.  He was great in Hostel 2, playing the guy who gleefully anticipates torturing and killing a young woman, to whimping out after accidentally injuring her, and running off to vomit and cry about what he did.  But I guess it makes sense in the GH world.

I haven't watched a non-ABC soap since the '90s, are all the current soaps this bad?  I know DOOL and B&B were campy and silly, but have they devolved like GH?  I attempted to watch Y&R back in the day, and I think I would prefer to watch reruns of that long dead nun droning on about God. 

[TeeVee329]

23 minutes ago, Melgaypet said:

In theory, Hayden and Liz as sisters could be interesting, though I have little hope that it will be in execution.

And, related to this, I will say that I kinda like Robin Riker as Naomi.  But I also don't want to see any more of the character than we currently do, if that makes sense.

[fishcakes]

So Franco promised God that if God saved Elizabeth, then Franco would stop being an asshole. Yeah, I don't see what's in that for God. A master of negotiation, Franco is not. But I did enjoy how he was hovering around asking Finn, Andre, and Griffin questions and they could barely be bothered to acknowledge his existence. I think I could tolerate Franco if every single character on the show simply walked away when he spoke to them.

[TeeVee329]

What struck me about that dialogue was that, by his own admission, Franco to this point doesn't actually think he's changed or that he's a good person, despite all his whining to the contrary.

[Box305]

I watched for the first time in a while and was amazed by how many scenes were in the hospital. 

Also, poor Felicia. 

[WendyCR72]

23 minutes ago, fishcakes said:

So Franco promised God that if God saved Elizabeth, then Franco would stop being an asshole. Yeah, I don't see what's in that for God. A master of negotiation, Franco is not. But I did enjoy how he was hovering around asking Finn, Andre, and Griffin questions and they could barely be bothered to acknowledge his existence. I think I could tolerate Franco if every single character on the show simply walked away when he spoke to them.

Hmm.

Nah. He still needs to die. Painfully. And (this is important!) stay dead.

[Darklazr]

4 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

A little poll: If you could erase two of these Soap Superstar From Another Soap Playing A Spicy, Bitchy Bad Girl, but had to keep the third, which one would you keep?

[   ]     Nina

[   ]     Rebecca Budig (the character)

[   ]     Claudette

 

My ballot:

[X]  Rebecca Budig (the character).  She's getting way too much story, but I find her a lot less irritating than Nina or pointless than Claudette.

All three need to get the hell off of my TV screen and I say this as someone who actually likes BW when she was on OLTL. 

MS, ReBu and BW are ALL playing their popular characters from Y&R, AMC and OLTL, so why would I want that on GH?!

Edited August 30, 2016 by Darklazr