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54 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Personally, I would trade Franco, Nina, Hayden and Morgan before Valerie or Lucas but I see what you're saying.

As much as it pains me, I agree.

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5 hours ago, LexieLily said:

See, I don't even like Ava, but I just want Sonny and Carly to lose on principle.

I've told you guys, leave the Ava love to me. I've got plenty for the whole board. So those that hate her but still want Sonny and Carly to lose don't have to feel guilty or weird. I'm willing to take this one for the team.

5 hours ago, rur said:

I like Ava well enough, but I'm starting to hate SonnyandCarly; I especially hate all those little chats they keep having where they talk about how they're so superior to all those other people, the ones who lie, cheat, steal, murder, kidnap, and blackmail. Their Hypocrites At Home scenes are giving me rage blackouts. 

This is definitely my rage blackout story. I can't believe I'm putting up with this crap. I seriously don't think I've ever hated a story or character more.

4 hours ago, peachmangosteen said:

Please let this be the last time we see or hear about Duke. It's time to move on, show!

I fast forwarded through all the Sonny/Carly scenes but their smug smiles caused me rage blackouts anyway. 

I liked Paul again for a hot minute when he was treating dumb ass Anna like the dumb ass she is but now his smugness over Ava is irritating me so he can go. I am going to lose my fucking mind if Ava gives in to Carscum. Please hold me, @tvgoddess!

Sam was 100% awesome in this episode. I think she should just keep wearing that dress forever, it makes her idgaf attitude really prominent and it's beautiful.

I'm so disappointed in this weird Tracy story. Why is she insane? Why are all the women horrible? Why do I still watch this show?

Who's going to hold me?! I can't watch this shit, y'all. I really can't.

But watch I did, and comment I will. On the other stuff, because SCARLY don't deserve or merit discussion.

I actually liked the Anna scenes today. Fin was her awesome self, and I now really do feel like we're finally moving on. Thank god! I'll put a saucer of milk out for you, Duke. You finally served an actual purpose, to end our misery with the damn Justice for Duke! storyline.

My newest ship is Sam and that dress. I want them together forever.

Hayden, screw the damn diamonds and go screw Curtis. Please. I promise, it'll make you feel better. He even invited himself to escort you up to your room and you turned him down? Priorities, sweetie. Oh, and her comment: I certainly didn't want him [Nik] dead. Why the hell not? Because he sure as hell wanted you dead.

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I'm so disappointed in this weird Tracy story. Why is she insane? Why are all the women horrible? Why do I still watch this show?

It's like a progressive level of questions of trying to come to terms with our illness. Someday we'll just break. But yeah, you could see this Tracy thing coming. I want to believe that there's something else going on here, I just can't figure out what. She is flipping flapping flat out cray if not. And did you hear how she just kind of ignored Dillon saying that he thought she and Sabrina were friends. It was very strange. Oh well, just another thing the writers have gotten completely wrong.

Oh and finally, because I like to brag I forgot to say that I called that semicolon spoiler about Morgan completely right that he was heartbroken over seeing Killon together kissing, not because he saw the body on the rocks. Which I don't think any of us thought was Nik.

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I thought that spoiler meant Morgan seeing Dillon/Kiki kiss too, but I thought it was going to be actually him watching from a distance, not from two feet away.

that reminds me, funny exchange between Maurice Benard and Hayley Erin, because he probably indeed didn't realize Morgan had dumped her:

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Did I hear right?  Did Paul really give Anna some document exonerating her for her attempted murder of Carlos?  Boy, I'll tell you what, if you've got a crime to commit, just grab your victim, if applicable, and head to PC to do the deed.  Town's got all kinds of forms, just waiting to fill in the names, to get people off.

What happened to Anna's desire to take responsibility for her actions, to set herself apart from all the other criminals in town, who constantly get away with murder?  It's pretty hard to invest in her desire for "justice" for Duke, when she slid on justice for Carlos.  Hey, he had people who loved him, too, Anna!  I know I love him a lot more than you, these days.

And what's the deal with this flashdrive that Paul has, with Ava's confession/A.J.'s murder on it?  I know Carly and Franco stole A.J.'s phone and took it to Spinelli to get the audio cleaned up.  I remember Spinelli said he emailed a copy to Carly, so what happened to that?  I'd guess Spinelli left a copy on his computer, too.  Not to mention, what the heck happened to A.J.'s phone?  Whatever, I'd think the chain of evidence on this audio file is so significantly corrupted by now that a good lawyer could discredit it in court.  Hey, if it's not gonna put Sonny in prison forever for A.J.'s murder, or at least get a wrongful death suit going, it shouldn't touch Ava, either.  (I love her, too, tvgoddess.)  Geeze, I  wish they'd have Monica bring a wrongful death suit against Sonny.  He's only ever interesting when he's down on his luck.

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On 5/27/2016 at 0:17 AM, HeatLifer said:

OK, I'm with you, this comment is extremely valid. 

Dante looked SO engaged with Robin's speech. I forgot for a second he was a POS. 

Duh, how did we not realize - he was probably flashing back to thst lovely photo she showed him in the hospital lol.

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3 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Duh, how did we not realize - he was probably flashing back to thst lovely photo she showed him in the hospital lol.

LMAO. Dante loved that picture, though. They were so giggly about it. And then Patrick barged in like an asshole. I never knew until Ron that I would miss that asshole so much. 

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I was going to watch for the first time in months to see Robin and the nurses ball, but mostly tuned out once I realized how much time was going to be devoted to that stumpy greaseball and his leather-faced wife stealing yet another kid.  Can someone please tell me if Lucas survived?

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9 minutes ago, Kitty Redstone said:

I was going to watch for the first time in months to see Robin and the nurses ball, but mostly tuned out once I realized how much time was going to be devoted to that stumpy greaseball and his leather-faced wife stealing yet another kid.  Can someone please tell me if Lucas survived?

So far he is alive, but I think in a coma.

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3 hours ago, Kitty Redstone said:

Thank you, bannana.  At least he wasn't cruelly killed off, which is what I expected this shitty, shitty show to do.

Oh there's still time.  

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11 hours ago, tvgoddess said:

And did you hear how she just kind of ignored Dillon saying that he thought she and Sabrina were friends. It was very strange.

She actually said "I did too" with a wary look on her face, which I really do not understand. Did I miss them having a falling out? This whole thing with Tracy is odd. I mean I guess it's just the worms or whatever, but still.

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14 hours ago, ulkis said:

I thought that spoiler meant Morgan seeing Dillon/Kiki kiss too, but I thought it was going to be actually him watching from a distance, not from two feet away.

that reminds me, funny exchange between Maurice Benard and Hayley Erin, because he probably indeed didn't realize Morgan had dumped her:

Considering he doesn't even know how to spell Kristina's name correctly, that's not surprising.

Although I'm a bit surprised at Haylen's response; I never expected anyone in the cast to disagree with him on anything.

If Dillion and Lauren happen, I wonder if she'll be cured of her Sonny-itis since she'll be in the Tracy Q orbit.

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Why is Anna not suspicious of Paul in the Carrrlos murder?  Paul has a good motive and a prior history of murder. 

How close can one build a mansion to the edge of a sheer cliff?  Has no one heard of erosion? 

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4 hours ago, Lobsel Vith said:

If Dillion and Lauren happen, I wonder if she'll be cured of her Sonny-itis since she'll be in the Tracy Q orbit.

Oh now I really want some scenes with this Kiki and Tracy. Ugh I'm so pissed that Kiki/Dillon is just a roadblock on the way back to Kiki/Morgan. Frank/the writers suck so hard.

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I'm actually not convinced it's just a roadblock, but we'll see. Despite the "the world is flat if Bryan Craig does not win an emmy " claptrap, I still don't think tptb are going to insist on Morgan/Kiki if viewers actually like Dillon/Kiki. At the end of the day, that's more important than an Emmy in a category with very light competition, and I doubt the show cares that much about Bryan Craig.

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Anna reminds me of one those friends who won't shut up about a new Crush. Every conversation somehow turns to what the Crush has said or done lately. Anna has it so bad that she keeps seeing his ghost, and keeps Ghost!Dewq up-to-date with the latest happenings, incliding his son's. It is downright embarrassing. Robin was tactful and kind about it, but Anna seems to be worse than a love-sick teen.

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2 hours ago, ulkis said:

I'm actually not convinced it's just a roadblock, but we'll see. Despite the "the world is flat if Bryan Craig does not win an emmy " claptrap, I still don't think tptb are going to insist on Morgan/Kiki if viewers actually like Dillon/Kiki. At the end of the day, that's more important than an Emmy in a category with very light competition, and I doubt the show cares that much about Bryan Craig.

I think these writers are heavily into their "Kiki and Morgan are the new Carly and Sonny" thing.  I think, at minimum, we'll get one more round of those two, and, maybe, if the audience response is overwhelmingly "put Kiki back with Dillon," they might let it die after that reunion.  But, I don't think there's any chance we're not getting at least one more go around on the Kiki/Morgan train.  

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I thought Friday's show was just the pits. The Sonny/Carly smugness was off the charts, and it's downright weird. They, especially Carly, are written exactly like characters we're supposed to love to hate while awaiting their comeuppance, but since it's General Hospital, we know better. Neither actor is likely to go anywhere; the characters will keep coming out on top until the show is put out of its misery. No end in sight. I don't see how they have remaining fans. That's the part I really don't get. There are scores of characters I personally have never given a shit about, but I can see why they have fans. These two are just vile. This story with Sonny going to the hospital, while Ava was watching over her seriously wounded other daughter, and saying "Avery can stay with me until you're ready to take her back," and then his harpy wife stalling and obfuscating until she can come up with blackmail material, and then the two of them laughing about it...it's rage-inducing no matter what you think of Ava. Do they want us to forget the agreement? 

So, I've been watching in spite of those two characters (off and on) for many years, that's nothing new, but Friday's show had nothing else for me. Ghost Duke and this nonsense with Nikolas. Is this actually supposed to be a mystery? I mean, that's how they seem to be playing it. All of the classic mystery elements are in place. A dark and stormy night, a creepy mansion, sudden violence, a body, a number of people on the scene who either hate Nikolas or have had conflict with him. But the show exonerated all of the suspects in advance. We saw all of them at the damned nurses' ball; we saw Jason entering and hearing a thud; the others didn't even arrive until after that. Why? How easy would it have been to set this up and at least make us think Nikolas is actually dead and that Jason, Sam, Curtis, and Hayden (and throw in a few other suspects) had opportunity to have killed him? Was the goal to make the inevitable subsequent scenes of the police suspecting and interrogating all of them even more boring and low-stakes? 

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The Sonny/Carly smugness was off the charts, and it's downright weird.

It didn't seem out of the ordinary for this viewer.  Sonny and Carly are this generation's Edward and Lila - the main staple of Port Charles.

The only reason that I would want Dillon and Kiki together is so that Tracy and Ava share some scenes again with nary a Corinthos in sight.

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3 hours ago, sunnyface said:

It didn't seem out of the ordinary for this viewer.  Sonny and Carly are this generation's Edward and Lila - the main staple of Port Charles.

I take great offense to this and I barely know Edward and Lila!

5 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

Is this actually supposed to be a mystery? I mean, that's how they seem to be playing it. All of the classic mystery elements are in place. A dark and stormy night, a creepy mansion, sudden violence, a body, a number of people on the scene who either hate Nikolas or have had conflict with him. But the show exonerated all of the suspects in advance.

LMAO! Good point. This show can't even do a cliche murder mystery right.

Also, I am in 100% agreement with what you wrote about Sonny/Carly.

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5 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

Was the goal to make the inevitable subsequent scenes of the police suspecting and interrogating all of them even more boring and low-stakes? 

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be all about the poor little misunderstood hit man being unjustly accused of exactly the kind of thing he's done for a living for decades.  

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1 minute ago, KerleyQ said:

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be all about the poor little misunderstood hit man being unjustly accused of exactly the kind of thing he's done for a living for decades.  

Well shit, you're right. It wasn't immediately obvious to me (idk why I guess I'm just not paying enough attention) but this really is all about fucking Jason.

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I think it's all about Hayden, actually. You know, because she's so super mean and evil for not telling the man who tried to have her killed that her father is a thief. Jason may be accused at first but I think the accusations will quickly swing towards Hayden with Liez leading the charge. 

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18 minutes ago, LeftPhalange said:

I think it's all about Hayden, actually. You know, because she's so super mean and evil for not telling the man who tried to have her killed that her father is a thief. Jason may be accused at first but I think the accusations will quickly swing towards Hayden with Liez leading the charge. 

You know, this story could be interesting if I gave two fucks about the characters involved.  But I'll be honest, Nik/Hayden's whole story sounds like it had AJ written on it and then SK complained about not being used for months, asked to be released, so Ron crossed out AJ and wrote in Nik, and the new writers went with it.   Like, why is Nik suddenly poor?  AJ, a former alcoholic who'd lost his company and just beat a murder rap could be.  AJ would probably be blackmailed to hide Jason's identity if it meant saving his company, his life, and his relationships with Liz/Michael.  And maybe he wouldn't want his brother in the mob again.  Why did Nik turn evil over Britt?  He knew her for about a year, maybe.  Why not turn evil when Emily died?  And I really do not care about "But Jason didn't commit this murder!" Shut up, Jason.   Go turn state's evidence on Sonny or do something for his victims, like your own damn brother.  Then you can whine about your criminal past.  

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But the show exonerated all of the suspects in advance.

That means nothing to this show. This is exactly how Alexis ended up being the one who shoved Luis Alcazar off his high rise balcony AND was down on the ground at the exact time he landed. The show didn't care that she was the first person cleared as a suspect by being there when he landed. I'm sure someone in charge or on the writing staff noticed this problem, but they just steamrolled ahead. It's also how Alexis was responsible for Jason going on trial for attempted murder and Sam whining endlessly about it even though he was the one who loosened the railing so that Luis would fall while leaning against it, thereby making him guilty of attempted murder. The show runners just didn't care.  Don't be surprised if someone who was physically incapable of being a suspect of this most recent clusterfuck ends up being the guilty party.

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1 hour ago, Vella said:

That means nothing to this show. This is exactly how Alexis ended up being the one who shoved Luis Alcazar off his high rise balcony AND was down on the ground at the exact time he landed. The show didn't care that she was the first person cleared as a suspect by being there when he landed. I'm sure someone in charge or on the writing staff noticed this problem, but they just steamrolled ahead. It's also how Alexis was responsible for Jason going on trial for attempted murder and Sam whining endlessly about it even though he was the one who loosened the railing so that Luis would fall while leaning against it, thereby making him guilty of attempted murder. The show runners just didn't care.  Don't be surprised if someone who was physically incapable of being a suspect of this most recent clusterfuck ends up being the guilty party.

Sam wasn't on the show when Luis died.

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I didn't watch Friday, but am I to believe the show left Lucas on death's door on Thursday...and then didn't address it at all the next day?

Also, unless I missed it, no mention from Griffin that Lucas is supposed to be his med school buddy from back in the day?

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I always binge-watch the week's episodes over the weekend. These are some of my thoughts...

The physical hijinks either made me laugh or cringe -- Nik's fall in the living room, Liz's stumble in the makeup room, Grif's breakdancing, Magic Milo's thighs, Milo's wild fist-pumping after Piff's rendition of Dr's Orders

Scotty couldn't have gone to the barbershop for a shave and a fresh cut? And you know I'm saying the same of Dante. He looked like a bum. Speaking of haircuts, Jake's Eight is Enough 'do needs to go. 

The guy who played Dr. Hardy in the opening act had a man-bun. SMDH. Seeing Curtis, who is so damn fine, make a genuine attempt to head-bob to the rap made me feel a little better. And omg, Curtis and the nunchucks. 

I wonder if that was [the actor who plays] Dillon's real singing voice. It wasn't horrible. 

Wasn't Emme Rylan in those cheerleading movies? Where the hell did her sense of rhythm go in the Dr's Orders routine? Doctor's Orders: Schedule Lulu's physical therapy for hip mobility.

Another thing I'll never understand -- why is GH's ER not on the first floor? People having an emergency have to take the elevator and flag someone down at the nurse's station. 

I am so sad about Lucas. This damn show can't let anyone have a nice relationship.

Why does Baby Edward wear a red bracelet?

Hollyoaks is one of the UK soaps I watch. Just last week, they finally wrapped up the "Gloved Hand Killer" s/l. And now I have to watch a mystery employee give deadly injections in GH -- thanks for the stolen s/l, show, you better make it worth watching.

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Sam wasn't on the show when Luis died.

Then it was Brenda. Short, long dark hair, whiny and protective of Jason.  Left six months before the other one showed up, you can understand my mistake. All of his cheerleaders blur together after awhile.

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3 hours ago, Vella said:

That means nothing to this show. This is exactly how Alexis ended up being the one who shoved Luis Alcazar off his high rise balcony AND was down on the ground at the exact time he landed. The show didn't care that she was the first person cleared as a suspect by being there when he landed. I'm sure someone in charge or on the writing staff noticed this problem, but they just steamrolled ahead. It's also how Alexis was responsible for Jason going on trial for attempted murder and Sam whining endlessly about it even though he was the one who loosened the railing so that Luis would fall while leaning against it, thereby making him guilty of attempted murder. The show runners just didn't care.  Don't be surprised if someone who was physically incapable of being a suspect of this most recent clusterfuck ends up being the guilty party.

I'm going to call it now.  Spencer did it.  He didn't want to be a townie.  He had to the diamonds, and he wanted a mommy.  Nik was going to ruin it all, dammit.  

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1 hour ago, CoolWhipLite said:

I wonder if that was [the actor who plays] Dillon's real singing voice. It wasn't horrible. 

I think it was, with a lot of attuning—and he wasn't the only one. I think Sonya Eddy is the only person who didn't need any sweetening.

1 hour ago, CoolWhipLite said:

Why does Baby Edward wear a red bracelet?

So the twins playing him can be told apart?

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Word has it that the actor playing Nik is in a contract dispute and will probably be replaced, at least temporarily.  It's smart the have the character go MIA for a while, to buy a little time.  Maxie is going to go bye bye as well.  Probably has something to do with her divorce from Johnny Z.

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1 hour ago, BlueMax said:

Word has it that the actor playing Nik is in a contract dispute and will probably be replaced, at least temporarily.  It's smart the have the character go MIA for a while, to buy a little time.  Maxie is going to go bye bye as well.  Probably has something to do with her divorce from Johnny Z.

KSt has a severe skin condition.   She addressed it today.   The part of Maxie will be played by the girl who played Melanie on Days.  Nik will be played by the guy who played Fox on Passions while Justin Hartley had paternity leave.  His last great role was being Kelsey Grammer's pool boy.  He is very hot.   There's more info in the news thread, along with up to date info on what Bryan Craig is doing.   We haz the words.   The characters are not going MIA.  No go bye bye.   GH does not want us to be alone anymore.  

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14 hours ago, CoolWhipLite said:

Hollyoaks is one of the UK soaps I watch. Just last week, they finally wrapped up the "Gloved Hand Killer" s/l. And now I have to watch a mystery employee give deadly injections in GH -- thanks for the stolen s/l, show, you better make it worth watching.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

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I watched online due to the news that Robin and Emma came for the Nurse's Ball. Her speech was great, but I had this reaction to Anna's enthusiasm/line that she's never heard Robin speak about HIV: What does that say about your priorities as a parent, Anna?   Still bugs me that Anna's not seeking to take down Dr. O forever, to get justice for all that Robin suffered...yet she's still hung up on getting justice for her dead criminal lover. Blech.

I loved the Robin-Anna-Emma hugging. I wish Uncle Mac had been there with Felicia!

The other moment that bugged me was when Robin greeted Jason and Sam. I was hoping for Sam to take a moment to really, genuinely thank Robin for saving Jason's life, and sacrificing so much time with Emma as a result (mentioning Patrick would be awkward).  We know (from Helena's deathbed scene) that Sam *knows* Robin was responsible for bringing Jason back to life. Instead, Robin barely gets out that she and Emma showed up to surprise Anna, and Sam goes running off to say hi to Emma like she's a miniature girlfriend who's been out of town instead of the kid who almost became her stepdaughter because Robin was a prisoner for saving Sam's husband's life.  I mean seriously, Robin had the grace (when she returned) to thank Sam for being so great to Emma. Have some class, Sam!

Maybe Sam has some jealousy/discomfort over Jason and Robin's history-connection? I don't know what else to think.

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16 hours ago, CoolWhipLite said:

Why does Baby Edward wear a red bracelet?

I was wondering about that, too. Maybe @dubbel zout's theory about telling twins apart is why, but I thought TCa's real son was playing the baby. Plus they've never done that for any of the other twins, have they?

13 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Maybe Sam has some jealousy/discomfort over Jason and Robin's history-connection? I don't know what else to think.

I'm sure it was just because the writers didn't even think about the history there and/or were too lazy to write something in about it because it didn't fit the current plot point.

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21 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Maybe Sam has some jealousy/discomfort over Jason and Robin's history-connection? I don't know what else to think.

I read it as Sam wanting to give Jason and Robin some space so they could talk. Sam and Robin don't really have any kind of relationship so it would probably be awkward if Sam just stood there while they talk about him getting his memory back. 

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