Episode Discussion: TFGH

[AgentRXS]

So day one of Nina. All I can say is that I hope they pair Silas and her immediately and free Sam from this boring shit. Besides, hasn't Sam learned yet that she literally can not go ANYWHERE in public with this man without the shit hitting the fan everywhere they go? Sam's face was so: "Really?Another person coming back from the dead...Jesus Christ".  I feel ya, Sam. I feel ya. We don't want her around either.

 

Levi is a waste of airtime. Make it go away. 

 

This show is becoming so bad its hard to find any snark value in it. Its just pure crap.

 
Peace out, baby Plot Point. Another waste of a storyline. Its really a shame they didn't make the baby a Rivera and kept it living. This show desperately needs a non-Spencer/Corinthos/Q/Cassadine offspring for future generations to mate with. I didn't want the baby to be Patricks but I didn't want it to die. I just wanted it and its mother to life offscreen for a very, long time.

 

One baby plot point dies, another enters. Its a Corinthos hybrid, so its almost certain to live. Ugh.

[Turkish]

Yeah, there is no way Nina isn't going to turn out BatshitCrazy. At least towards Sam when she finds out the truth. You don't hire Michelle Stafford to play nice characters.

 

I am loving the hell out of Morgan hating Sonny. At one of his kid's should hate him at all times. I did cringe at him asking Ava to have an abortion though. Lets be real though if she hadn't have been caught by Sonny she probably would have secretly had an abortion anyway. I'm not buying that she cares about this kid. I really hope it is Morgan's or heartlessly that this kid dies because I can't abide Sonny having yet another child to neglect but act like his personal property that he is being kept from. 

 

I just caught up on the last three episodes so I have to say I loved the truth bomb Molly dropped on Alexis about her baby daddies. She did not tell a lie. Sonny alone has done so much horrible shit but Alexis can't defend Ric because Julian is hitting it oh so right? Oh, Alexis. You are going to have egg on your face when the truth comes out.

 

And poor RicH. I don't know why he keeps coming back to this show. I knew the second AJ left Ric would become the new whipping boy. This show has always consistently treated him this way. Something tells me he won't stick around for too much longer at this rate. 

Edited June 5, 2014 by Turkish

[jsbt]

To be clear, this is an observation borne out of yesterday's episode, lest we move it to one of the new, extraneous threads. Allow me to call it now and be bored already: Nina is a Cassadine.

This will, in Ron's eyes, cement her on the show as a core power player. Nina and Nathan are the product of Victor Cassadine's two-timing both Westbourne sisters with each other, much to what I'm sure will be Liesl's over-played comic chagrin and jealousy. Remember, Nina was being kept by Madeline at the same clinic that Victor escorted Robin to; this is not coincidence. He knows both women and he has sired children by both of them. Nina and Nathan (and Nikolas) also fits the same alliteration as Stefan and Stavros. It's a new/old core family with not three, but four soap divas (Obrecht, Donna Mills, Nina, and oh yeah, Helena) that goes on forever...and ever...and ever.

Wait for it.

[Lillybee]

Is it really wrong of me to want Ava's baby no matter who the daddy is to be a tock?

[LeftPhalange]

 

They killed off Patrick and Sabrina's baby and gave us more suck of Ava and Sonny. Please don't give them and Sonny yet another child. Team abortion like Morgan is.

 

If the demon Ava baby is actually born it needs to be mowed down by Luke.

 

 

Is it really wrong of me to want Ava's baby no matter who the daddy is to be a tock?

 

Absolutely not.

[Fylaki]

 

Actually, there could be something worse than making Levi Mac's son. God forbid that he turns out to be Jax's.

Knowing how much Ron likes WTD stories we could be in for a Jax/Miranda/Mac baby story with Levi going to the loser.

 

Or worse a Mac/Katherine/Stefan WTD with Stefan ending up as the daddy and Levi is suddenly a Cassadine (and Nik, Victor, Alexis, Sam, Molly and even Nathan all just say no and take turns poisoning his dumb ass)

Edited June 6, 2014 by Stinger97
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[Rancide]

As stupid as this Nina story is under just about any circumstances, it's only stupider if Nina turns out to be BSC.  What's compelling about a triangle where one of the legs is obviously unrootable?  The only time BSC interlopers work as a plot point is when they're used to uncover/explore existing fault-lines in a relationship.  Like when Carly messed with Tony and Bobby.  Watching poor put upon Sam and Silas suffer under the weight of crazy, unrootable coma wife is just stupid, sloppy writing.

 

Can't we please just settle the Prospect Park litigation now?  Before RoHo actually falls asleep on camera?

[MSquared]

As stupid as this Nina story is under just about any circumstances, it's only stupider if Nina turns out to be BSC.  What's compelling about a triangle where one of the legs is obviously unrootable?  The only time BSC interlopers work as a plot point is when they're used to uncover/explore existing fault-lines in a relationship.  Like when Carly messed with Tony and Bobby.  Watching poor put upon Sam and Silas suffer under the weight of crazy, unrootable coma wife is just stupid, sloppy writing.

 

Can't we please just settle the Prospect Park litigation now?  Before RoHo actually falls asleep on camera?

 

But that's not how this team operates.  Of course, one of the legs of a triangle have to be painted with the unrootable brush to make it work!  That way, you can see the twu wuv that shines brightly off of Sam and Silas, at least in this case.

 

And sorry, but it was not due to the PP issues that they give RoHo such a horrible character that the guy is a walking zombie on screen.  He may have put out a little more effort if they gave him a character that was a modicum better than a reformed serial killer.  Hell, he was edging this way with Todd before he ran back to Llanview.  

Edited June 6, 2014 by Stinger97
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[LeftPhalange]

 

Hell, he was edging this way with Todd before he ran back to Llanview.

 

RH has seemed "over it" since he came to GH. It's very clear that he's only in this for the paycheck.

[tvgoddess]

 

I don't think he ordered to have it. He said, "I think". And then when she said no, he walked out. I mean, not that I would put it past Morgan to order someone to have one. But I don't think that's what he did there.

 

Yeah, I still don't like it. I really didn't like it when Jason suggested it to Sam, and I don't like it here. I can definitely understand it more from Morgan's POV, I don't think he's doing it in the same way that Jason was, which was disgusting. But still. Not your decision to make.

[Pete Martell]

I'm uncomfortable with lines like Morgan telling Sonny to keep Ava on her leash. For all the surface melodrama of Morgan "hating" Sonny, it signals the true nature of the story - this is all about the men, Morgan will in time forgive manly man Sonny, and Ava is going to be left on the roadside.

[Aprilshowers]

She looked like Lucille Ball in that unlamented remake of Mame - just not as young.

OMG...my sides hurt from laughing so hard..God it's true though!

Edited June 5, 2014 by stacey
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[Rancide]

RH has seemed "over it" since he came to GH. It's very clear that he's only in this for the paycheck.

 

I was not a OLTL viewer, and I'd never heard of RoHo before he appeared on GH.  So I have no basis for an historical comparison of RoHo performances.  But in 30ish years of television watching, I have never, ever seen anyone look as checked out an uninterested as he looked yesterday.

 

It's actually quite remarkable.  He's a good-looking guy, and even mid-yawn, the charisma is evident.  Lord knows there is tons of shitty acting on this show.  I'm used to the sputtering, struggling-to-remember-their-lines variety (Mo'), the just-consumed-too-much-sugar variety (Kiki, Molly) and even the suffering-from-facial-paralysis variety (Detective Wood, GV-era Lucky).  But RoHo is the first actor I've ever seen whose terrible-ness seems practically deliberate--it's like every line that comes out of his mouth is dripping with sarcasm. 

[MSquared]

RH has seemed "over it" since he came to GH. It's very clear that he's only in this for the paycheck.

 

I disagree with being over it since he cam to GH.  Back to, yes, but he when he started in March of 2012, he was good.  He did not mail in anything with Starr, Blair, Tea, hell, even Carly. His Sonny scenes were amazing and I did see chem with Robin Mattson.

 

Yes, I am a TnB fan, so it does color my perspective, but he started checking out after Blair left that summer.  And it got lost as he got tossed into more and more scenes with Carly and Johnny.  The only halfway decent thing he did afterwards was with Skye, Carly, Tea and Blair in "Llanview".  And after that, it was back to the gutter.  He was flailing about, literally, with Starr, fratboying it up with Carly and just goofy all around.

 

Then he went back to OLTL and he was amazing again.  Emoting, but not overly so.  Light when needed, but not the constant goofball.  He did not have one bad scene through his run there.  Now, what was different there?

 

IMO, he knows Ron's writing is shit.  OL's writing, while not the greatest, was better than anything I have seen on GH in the past year and a half.  But he knows Ron is a terrible storyteller and the writers he has around him are no better.  RH mails it in because he won't put the effort in if the writings not there.  He's worked with Ron for three years now and it has probably gotten the vibe that it ain't gonna get any better, so why should he try.

 

MHO, of course.

[rur]

 

But he knows Ron is a terrible storyteller and the writers he has around him are no better.  RH mails it in because he won't put the effort in if the writings not there.  He's worked with Ron for three years now and it has probably gotten the vibe that it ain't gonna get any better, so why should he try.

 

I think this is what rankles. I imagine that most people here have a work ethic that involves showing up and doing one's job, even if it may not be one's dream job. I think there are a lot of people who have watched his "work" and cannot figure out how he continues to keep his job. 

Including me.

YMMV, though.

Edited June 5, 2014 by alicemorgan

[ulkis]

I'm uncomfortable with lines like Morgan telling Sonny to keep Ava on her leash. For all the surface melodrama of Morgan "hating" Sonny, it signals the true nature of the story - this is all about the men, Morgan will in time forgive manly man Sonny, and Ava is going to be left on the roadside.

 

He didn't tell Sonny to keep her on her leash though. After Ava told Sonny she wouldn't go far, he said, "Wow, that's sweet. Maybe you should get her a leash too while you're at it." 

 

I do think the fact that Morgan will eventually forgive Sonny vs Ava isn't just about the fact that Sonny is a man and Ava is a woman. (For now, who knows how gross things may get later.) Yes, Morgan will forgive the man over the woman, but in this case the man in his father, and his father is a long-running contract player and the woman in this case is someone who is probably, in maybe less then a year, two years if we're stretching it, going to be killed off in some murder mystery probably. Now, I think it would be totally about the men if, for example, he was angry at both Carly and Sonny and he eventually forgave Sonny but held a grudge against Carly for all time.

 

To be clear, this is an observation borne out of yesterday's episode, lest we move it to one of the new, extraneous threads. Allow me to call it now and be bored already: Nina is a Cassadine.

 

 

Oh God. I'm hoping Ron won't give a shit who her father is. I mean, whatever I guess. It's all one big joke now. As long as it isn't Stavros. Thaao Penglis > Robert Kelker-Kelly.

Edited June 5, 2014 by ulkis

[MSquared]

I think this is what rankles. I imagine that most people here have a work ethic that involves showing up and doing one's job, even if it may not be one's dream job. I think there are a lot of people who have watched his "work" and cannot figure out how he continues to keep his job. 

Including me.

YMMV, though.

 

He still has a job because he's still a pet and FrankenRon won't admit to themselves his character's been a failure and the actor doesn't give a shit.  Even with the mess that PP has become, they still have to declare victory that they still have RoHo.  He is still a powerful name in soap circles, still and "Emmy Winner".  And still a pet because he was from OL.

[peachmangosteen]

I had typed out a few lines about how I don't think Ava is solely trying to save her life, but no one cares but me.

 

I care! I care deeply! I thought MW was definitely playing those scenes like Ava wasn't just about saving her life, so I would be interested in reading what you thought.

 

I do think the fact that Morgan will eventually forgive Sonny vs Ava isn't just about the fact that Sonny is a man and Ava is a woman. (For now, who knows how gross things may get later.) Yes, Morgan will forgive the man over the woman, but in this case the man in his father, and his father is a long-running contract player and the woman in this case is someone who is eventually, in maybe less then a year, two years if we're stretching it, going to be killed off in some murder mystery probably. It's be one thing if he was angry at both Carly and Sonny and he eventually forgave Sonny but held a grudge against Carly for all time.

 

Yea. I mean, I still hope Morgan will never forgive Sonny and hate him for eternity, but I know that won't happen because Sonny is the star of the show. And really, it actually does make sense that he may eventually forgive Sonny solely because Sonny is his father. And Morgan is really just a wooby little baby who wants someone to actually love him and it makes him dumb. So, yea, it makes sense. But in the GH in my head Morgan makes a real friend and he never speaks to Sonny or Carly ever again.

Edited June 5, 2014 by peachmangosteen

[LegalParrot81]

I'm probably a terrible person, Baby Blanket dying only makes me let out a sign of relief.  I did like JT and SE's scene's together.

 

Levi can meet his maker anytime, too.  Another useless newb.

 

I have yet to figure out what's so great about Michele Stafford.  I didn't get all the hype when she was on Y&R and I certainly didn't see the superior talent yesterday.  Nina's arrival left me flat, as it apparently did all the actors in her scenes yesterday.  The energy on screen could have maybe made enough amperage to light a very, very small pen light for 40 seconds.

 

Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, what a grease spot you are.  MB seems to get a little worse every year.

 

Why is it that JJY is one of the few actors who actually shows up in his scenes and gets nothing, while every pet and newb act bored to tears and yet are in every freaking segment?  I know the answer to this, but I had to vent.

Edited June 5, 2014 by LegalParrot81

[TeeVee329]

Allow me to call it now and be bored already: Nina is a Cassadine.

 

Oh dear, don't even put that out in the universe!  I would hate that for a variety of reasons.  One (the most obvious one) - making Nina even more central to the show.  Two - I adored Victor's adoration of Dr. O so I would be gutted if he two-timed her with her sister.  And three - making Dr. O, Magda, Nina, and Nathan all connected to the Cassadines would leave my girl Britt a little out in the cold in this family unit.

 

Also, I wouldn't be shocked if Ron tries to lock down some veteran male actor to play a back-from-the-dead Papa Reeves (Magda's husband and presumably Nina's biological father).  Gawd, I'd burst into tears if Ron subjected my beloved Jerry ver Dorn to such horrors.

Edited June 5, 2014 by TeeVee329

[MSquared]

I'm probably a terrible person, Baby Blanket dying only makes me let out a sign of relief.  I did like JT and SE's scene's together.

 

You are not alone (sorry, but yeah, the pun was intended).  I was remembering how gut wrenching it was for me when they killed Victor Lord, III.  I mean, I literally could not eat those days of the birth and switch.  It made no sense to kill a kid of a presumed dead (but not really) father and have an uncle who's already had issues with dead/switched babies in his past do it again.  And while I think FL overdid it when it was all revealed, my heart still ached for her when the truth came out.  Yesterday...nada, nothing, not even SE and JT got anything out of me.

 

Oh dear, don't even put that out in the universe!  I would hate that for a variety of reasons.  One (the most obvious one) - making Nina even more central to the show.  Two - I adored Victor's adoration of Dr. O so I would be gutted if he two-timed her with her sister.  And three - making Dr. O, Magda, Nina, and Nathan all connected to the Cassadines would leave my girl Britt a little out in the cold in this family unit.

 

Also, I wouldn't be shocked if Ron tries to lock down some veteran male actor to play a back-from-the-dead Papa Reeves (Magda's husband and presumably Nina's biological father).  Gawd, I'd burst into tears if Ron subjected my beloved Jerry ver Dorn to such horrors.

 

Don't put that out in the universe!  Not JvD!  Not after the spectacular job he did as Clint last year!  (And yet, I can see it, especially since he made it know in December, 2012 he was returning to GH as Clint).

 

Isn't Papa Reeves dead?  I thought Maddy and James/Nate were talking about how all his money was left to Nina.

[TeeVee329]



Isn't Papa Reeves dead?  I thought Maddy and James/Nate were talking about how all his money was left to Nina.

 

Once upon a time, Nina was dead too.  Death means nothing on this show.  And if Papa Reeves could be brought in to make Nina look better by comparison (i.e. Papa Ford on OLTL), I wouldn't put it past Ron.

Edited June 5, 2014 by TeeVee329

[LegalParrot81]

Isn't Papa Reeves dead?  I thought Maddy and James/Nate were talking about how all his money was left to Nina.

 

Well, we know what it means when anyone talks about someone being dead on this show, it means they'll show up sooner rather than later.  Case in point.....Nina.  

 

The only reason I'd have for ever wanting JvD on this show is purely selfish. I'd love the possibility of getting JvD and JE scenes.  They were magic back in the day on Guiding Light and I'd love to see if they still had it.

 

You are not alone (sorry, but yeah, the pun was intended)

 

Hee!

Edited June 5, 2014 by LegalParrot81

[dubbel zout]

You don't order a woman, especially Ava, to have an abortion, ever. Not your body, not your decision. I had typed out a few lines about how I don't think Ava is solely trying to save her life, but no one cares but me.

 

That bugged me, too, but I also thought it was totally in character for Morgan. I wish Ava had been more "Tough shit; you don't get a choice here" about that, but at least she stood her ground. As for actually wanting the baby to do more than save her life, I don't think she's above using it to manippleate Morgan into getting back together. Lauren is a disaster, but most of that happened once they hit PC. Before that it seemed they had a decent relationship. I don't think this baby would ever be a chance to do a better job the next time around.

 

Molly and TJ are 10 feet away helping Danny color, seeming to not notice or care what's going on.

 

I didn't mind that. At least someone was paying attention to Danny on his birthday.

 

was so relieved they actually went through with it and allowed it to pass away. Isn't that awful of me?

 

It's the only sensible reaction to have, IMO.

 

Yeah, there is no way Nina isn't going to turn out BatshitCrazy. At least towards Sam when she finds out the truth. You don't hire Michelle Stafford to play nice characters.

 

So I guess we'll live through a stalking story line soon. Sigh.

 

Is it really wrong of me to want Ava's baby no matter who the daddy is to be a tock?

 

Again, the only sensible reaction to have.

 

Isn't Papa Reeves dead?  I thought Maddy and James/Nate were talking about how all his money was left to Nina.

 

Like Ron cares about details.

Edited June 5, 2014 by dubbel zout

[tveyeonyou]

"You should get that tattooed on your forehead"  makes me want to take those words, smother them with a pillow, shoot them in the head as they're giving birth then put them in a tree with the words "a simple tape measurer would have done the trick" embedded on a plaque for all eternity.

Snarky Morgan is my new idol. We may have lost TWOP, but we've gained MWOP. And MWOP is a beautiful thing.

[Chairperson Meow]

Am I wrong for thinking Morgan would win measuring tape war? MWOP is the best. I need him to spread his give no fucks about town. I've been dying for a scene where someone tells Sonny and Olivia how hypocritical they are for hooking up before Connie was even cold in her grave.

Ron is just a dumb writer. I stand by RoHo being punished for doing PP OLTL. No one can do anything with Franco. Supposedly, he's requested meetings privately to ask what direction the character was going in. I guess he didn't get an answer. I'll hop to whatever show he goes to. I'm guessing his contract ends this winter or early next year.

[Bringonthedrama]

Looks like a few here are bothered by Sam not 'standing up for herself' to Nina. I totally get why she played things that way - the smart and safe way to go in a major WTF situation. Remember, this is the woman whose son got kidnapped because she didn't 'deliver the letter to Steven Lars' for crazy Heather Webber. This shock is happening just feet away from her little boy, during his b-day party. She has no idea if this woman could freak out and harm her son or another loved one, have a loud breakdown right there in the park and ruin Danny's b-day celebration, have a medical crisis/collapse in the park from the "shock" of seeing the S&S relationship that the vindictive Madeline later blames Silas and Sam for, etc. 

[Cattitude]

As a MS fan Nina's first real scene was disappointing. Not so much her but everyone else really made it horrible. She was trying her best to tone down her acting to a snails pace but ME was just like playing against a block of wood. And don't even get me started on Sam just standing there looking ridiculous.

That whole scene was horribly written I don't see where she'd get any idea how to play it. It was like an unknown character trying to give a monologue in a scene full of other characters just milling around. My Gawd SOMEONE should have had some kind of feeling besides just her. ugh! I hope she gets more to work with.

 

I hope her scene with Nathan will be better as at least he seems to have a little more skill than ME.

 

I can't stand Ava, but I don't care for MW and this character isn't much off Diane she played on Y&R and she did nothing for me then either.

I so saw the wheels in her mind turning about using the baby as a pawn. I saw no real love of the baby, heck even with his abortion talk Morgan seems to think more of the baby as person than Ava did.

[Patssy Stoned]

Is it REMOTELY possible that Detective Plywood is actually Nina's SON instead of brother?

[LegalParrot81]

 

Is it REMOTELY possible that Detective Plywood is actually Nina's SON instead of brother?

 

But, isn't Det. Playwood older than 20 or did she have this kid pre-coma?

[TeeVee329]

Is it REMOTELY possible that Detective Plywood is actually Nina's SON instead of brother?

 

I don't see how.  Nina and Silas have both made mention of Nathan being a little kid when they were married and Nina was pregnant with any possible coma baby when she, you know, got all comatose.  Plus, I dunno how they could explain Dr. O giving Magda a baby to raise if it wasn't Nathan.

[dubbel zout]

I just realized that nearly all the new characters Ron has introduced have had their parentage change at least once. If he can't get them pregnant, he gives them new parents. Or both, if they're wimmins. (That will come.)

[Grammaeryn]

Is it REMOTELY possible that Detective Plywood is actually Nina's SON instead of brother?

 

Nope. He was 5 when Nina went into her coma.  Silas remembers him as a little boy.  Nina's son would be only 20.

[LeftPhalange]

 

I so saw the wheels in her mind turning about using the baby as a pawn. I saw no real love of the baby, heck even with his abortion talk Morgan seems to think more of the baby as person than Ava did.

 

Ava will use anyone and anything to get what she wants and to protect herself. I'm sure at some point her back will be against the wall and she will end up taking her precious Morgan or the daughter she pretends to love hostage.

[Yolapukka]

 

I hope her scene with Nathan will be better as at least he seems to have a little more skill than ME.

 

Sadly I think you are right. Even a wooden rookie shows more believable emotional response and discernible facial expressions than a certain vet whose work has devolved into nothing beyond the disinterested recitation of lines..  Ryan Paevey's acting is also improving, unlike  Measton, who has been consistently horrible since they created the character of Silas for him and he slid back into all the bad, lazy habits he had in his later years on OLTL. 

[MSquared]

 

Ron is just a dumb writer. I stand by RoHo being punished for doing PP OLTL. No one can do anything with Franco. Supposedly, he's requested meetings privately to ask what direction the character was going in. I guess he didn't get an answer. I'll hop to whatever show he goes to. I'm guessing his contract ends this winter or early next year.

 

I'll tell you the direction the character is going in...whichever one points him back to the golden hoohaa.  I have to face it, RH is never going to be out of Carly/LW's orbit.  The small amount of hope I have is, in answer to your next question, he'll be out soon.  He spoke, in his interview last fall, that his daughter was going to be going to school back in NYC.  I think she may be in seventh grade, so one more school year and he's out of there.  (Of course, I still hope he takes the next out he has coming up.)

[formerlyfreedom]

Hey, everyone - this topic is for conversation on the episodes of GH. Just a reminder, please move your speculation talk over to the Unspoiled Speculation topic.

[Tiger]

Based on his IMDB.COM pics, Zach Garrard (Levi) has some naturally awful hair.  But the crack team at GH has definitely done something to it to make it look like a cheap weave or wig.  

 

As far as him really being Sly Eckert or Coma!Baby or a Jacks or a Scorpio, my vote is for coma!baby.  The Clay family has already been ruined due solely to Keeks' inclusion.  Let the Eckert (as Spencer cousins), Jacks', and Scorpio's remain douche free.

[Chairperson Meow]

I'd like a link to that please. How did I miss that? I wonder what became of the rumors he got divorced.

[mybabyaidan]

I have no issues with Sam's reaction.  She has absolutely no reason to have any kind of venom towards this woman...yet.  What was she going to say??  "Go back into your coma you selfish bitch, Silas is mine now??"   Nina is not guilty of anything at this point (as far as we or Sam know), I am actually glad Sam didn't get possessive and catty.

[MSquared]

I'd like a link to that please. How did I miss that? I wonder what became of the rumors he got divorced.

It was in SOD or SID. When I get home I'll see if I can find the image and pm it to you. And he was hanging out a few weeks ago in NYC with his daughter and wife whatever.

[jsbt]

Levi is not

Sly, since I'm pretty sure they just cast that role.

[Cattitude]

Based on his IMDB.COM pics, Zach Garrard (Levi) has some naturally awful hair.  But the crack team at GH has definitely done something to it to make it look like a cheap weave or wig.  

 

As far as him really being Sly Eckert or Coma!Baby or a Jacks or a Scorpio, my vote is for coma!baby.  The Clay family has already been ruined due solely to Keeks' inclusion.  Let the Eckert (as Spencer cousins), Jacks', and Scorpio's remain douche free.

Gawd No Please do not have youngRichardSimmons in a bad wig be Nina's child. She's already saddled to Silas as it is!

 

I have no issues with Sam's reaction.  She has absolutely no reason to have any kind of venom towards this woman...yet.  What was she going to say??  "Go back into your coma you selfish bitch, Silas is mine now??"   Nina is not guilty of anything at this point (as far as we or Sam know), I am actually glad Sam didn't get possessive and catty.

She didn't have to be catty, but standing around petting a piece of foliage to overtly eavesdrop was totally ridiculous. It was her son's birthday and I'd think she'd  get a clue your boyfriend might like some privacy to deal with his suddely alive wife from 20 yrs ago.

She should have taken everyone over to have an actual party for poor Danny and let Silas deal with Nina himself over to the side.

I couldn't figure out why they didn't tell her the truth to begin with, she's been in coma for 20yrs I think she could handle her husband moving on, she might not like it but truthfulness wouldn't have hurt.

[dubbel zout]

I have no issues with Sam's reaction.  She has absolutely no reason to have any kind of venom towards this woman...yet.  What was she going to say??  "Go back into your coma you selfish bitch, Silas is mine now??"   Nina is not guilty of anything at this point (as far as we or Sam know), I am actually glad Sam didn't get possessive and catty.

 

I'm glad she didn't get possessive and catty, too, but she totally punted when Nina asked her how she knew Silas. "He's my son's doctor" isn't a lie, of course, but but would it have been so terrible to admit to dating Silas? As I wrote earlier, I think it's way soapier to get that news out sooner rather than later and see the fallout. It's not some great secret.

Edited June 5, 2014 by dubbel zout

[RedheadZombie]

 

As long as it isn't Stavros. Thaao Penglis > Robert Kelker-Kelly.

 

I remember watching RKK on Another World back in the day and liking him.  He was so cartoonish on GH, I couldn't watch him.  Completely over the top. 

 

RKK and the Franco character are bringing to mind the brief time I watched DOOL and B&B.  I feel GH is turning into pure camp like those two shows.  I remember GH used to be the show with the good acting. 

[no1skittishkitten]

Silas to Nina Van Winkle: "I remember everything"

 

Me: *looks at Pacey/Joey avatar and gets stabby*

 

I need to go kill some balloons now, Sam McCall-style.

[rur]

There are some times that I really like Ava, and today was one of them. I loved how she went toe to toe with the slagbeast and didn't blink. I loved how she called her "your feral ex-wife" to Sonny. And I would love to see a summer of Carly looking over her shoulder and jumping at every sound.

I also loved the last scene: Sonny you idiot -- you're taking Ava home with you? The manipulation has already begun. Neither you nor Carly have either the brains or foresight to deal with Ava. I love it.

[TeeVee329]

And I would love to see a summer of Carly looking over her shoulder and jumping at every sound.

 

That would be sweet.  I thought Carly was pretty stupid to antagonize a woman who a) she knows has murdered before and b) basically has nothing to lose at this point.

[Kitty Redstone]

If Ava kills the Slagbeast, then I will love her forever.  Can Sonny and Nina piss her off next?  That just might make me rethink my decision to start skipping this fucked up show.  Threatening to kill a woman after she has her baby is not entertaining, Ron Carliavati.  Nor is watching a woman have to beg Uncle Fester for her life.  It is sick.

 

And what isn't sick about this show is stupid and boring.  I feel sorry for Kelly Monaco.  She got through years of acting opposite a block of wood only to be paired with someone just as boring, only scrawnier.

 

Also, they can have every character say that Michelle Stafford is beautiful but it will not make it so.

[Dandesun]

If Ron and Frank really want to be shocking, instead of being utterly predictable with only Facebook fans and the soap media who live so far up their collective asses that they pay Homeowners fees saying otherwise, they'll kill off Carly. Go ahead! Do it! Be bold! Let Sonny and Michael and Morgan flounder like crazy without their overbearing quim inserting herself into every part of their world.

 

They can always bring the Slagbeast back a year later or whatever. But, sure! Go for it!

 

They won't because they're far too predictable but I'd actually be impressed if they let Ava bump Carly off. Besides... Ava is a more effective Carly than Carly is.

Edited June 5, 2014 by Dandesun