SPLAIN October 19, 2015 Share October 19, 2015 (edited) parisprincess I agree to some degree. At some point, one has to own up to their choices. Yes, many have had bad childhoods. I have sympathy for those who had to endure a bad family life, the death of a parent, abuse, abandonment, etc. It is extremely difficult for many people to deal with the pain that comes with painful experiences. They may turn to drugs, like Lamar (I assume), to numb the pain. Then, you have those folks who become addicts because of prescription meds. They don't choose to be addicts but, it happens. As for Lamar, perhaps he has the gene from his father, who was also an addict. Whatever the case may be, in the end, the addict must want the help. Lamar resisted the help Khloe desperately wanted him to get but, he chose the drugs. Since the topic outside of the media must be brought here instead, I wanted to respond to the person who works in an ICU and mentioned how people in the ICU are out of it and not responding to the people who visit them, they are usually sedated, in a coma, just not responding. That is not always the case. I had a sibling who was in ICU for over 5 weeks as one of their kidneys was giving them problems. It was touch and go with the kidney eventually failing and my sibling having to have surgery. My sibling was awake and alert the whole time. We visited throughout the day and all those weeks. Many of the patients in ICU were out of it but my sibling and at least two other patients were awake and aware of their surroundings. As for Lamar, I think the people who visited him when he was not responding, were allowed to visit him one at a time, per the rules of any ICU. As for the partying that was claimed by that one person in that news article, I highly doubt that is what was going on. People are upset, they are crying, they are despondent, and they are worried. Nothing unusual for people to want to see a loved one even when that loved one is not responding. It is part of the process. I am happy that Lamar has awaken from his coma. I seriously thought he was going to pass away. I don't know what will happen in the long run. I do wish him the best and I hope that this is his rock bottom. Hopefully, he will rise above this for himself, for Khloe, and most of all, for his children. Edited October 19, 2015 by SPLAIN 6 Link to comment
Cocoa Puff October 19, 2015 Share October 19, 2015 (edited) so what'll happen when the divorce becomes final? http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/19/lamar-odom-khloe-kardashian-survive-rehab/ Now why do I get the feeling that this has that sleezy Hoff's hand all over it.... http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/19/lamar-odom-hooker-missing-bunny-lain/ Edited October 19, 2015 by carolinagirl81 Link to comment
howmanywords October 19, 2015 Share October 19, 2015 There arent enough eyerolls in the world for some of the comments accompanying that article. Are there seriously people who think caring for a stroke victim is some big joke? The comments about how this is the best storyline they can ask for? Unbelievable. If Khloe is truly going to stick by Lamar through this recovery process she's much stronger than she's being given credit for. Taking care of a stroke victim is no laughing matter at ALL. 3 Link to comment
iwasish October 19, 2015 Share October 19, 2015 (edited) There arent enough eyerolls in the world for some of the comments accompanying that article. Are there seriously people who think caring for a stroke victim is some big joke? The comments about how this is the best storyline they can ask for? Unbelievable. If Khloe is truly going to stick by Lamar through this recovery process she's much stronger than she's being given credit for. Taking care of a stroke victim is no laughing matter at ALL. Khloe can stick by Lamar without being his caregiver. She has no obligation to do so, she would be doing it out of love and or compassion. There are many, many decisions that will have to be made, short term and long term. A lot depends on Lamar himself, what he wants and what changes he makes regarding his issues. Most likely Lamar will end up in some kind of a rehabilitation center for his physical problems and considering his physical size, Khloe will need lots of strong arms to help care for him, if and when he is able to go home. Edited October 19, 2015 by iwasish 2 Link to comment
Maya October 19, 2015 Share October 19, 2015 (edited) Most likely Lamar will end up in some kind of a rehabilitation center for his physical problems and considering his physical size, Khloe will need lots of strong arms to help care for him, if and when he is able to go home. This marriage has been over for a long time. Why would Khloe care for him after he goes home? He cheated on her, disrespected her and humiliated her. What a catch!! Clearly, he doesn't love her. If she can't see that after finding him unconscious in a whorehouse, I don't know what it will take. I would respect her more if her support this week was for the cameras, than if it was because she wants this cheater back. Edited October 19, 2015 by Maya 4 Link to comment
MissE October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 Actually that was my entire point, marriage is for better or worse no matter what. Abuse and infidelity are the only two acceptable reasons to end that marriage. Khloe made the off hand decision to marry Lamar in a month not knowing him, she deserves no sympathy. Lamar cheated, hey then take off and run Khloe but don't play the victim because you didn't take the time to get to know who he really was. So what if Khloe gets a little stressed, has some diarrhea and sleepless nights? You do it to yoursel Khloe wasn't in that marriage alone. Lamar made vows to her as well, and he broke those vows over and over when he cheated on her and chose his addiction over her. Obviously they got married way to quickly, but she is a victim when he cheats and he humiliates her, and loves drugs more than her. Khloe never seemed like she was playing anything IMO. She always seemed very sad and frustrated that she couldn't be with him anymore, and that she couldn't give him the help he need. 3 Link to comment
citychic October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 Khloe wasn't in that marriage alone. Lamar made vows to her as well, and he broke those vows over and over when he cheated on her and chose his addiction over her. Obviously they got married way to quickly, but she is a victim when he cheats and he humiliates her, and loves drugs more than her. Khloe never seemed like she was playing anything IMO. She always seemed very sad and frustrated that she couldn't be with him anymore, and that she couldn't give him the help he need. You're right, Lamar did choose to not honor the vows so why should Khloe and yes, she did stick with him through a hell of a lot of garbage. She's got to be going through a lot of emotions right now and making some tough decisions on how much of her future she wants to invest in him as he recovers. I agree, she loved him with her whole heart and soul. I guess my point was simply the religion I was brought up in was very strict about marriage and divorce. It was pounded into my head that no matter what, you stay and make it work so I really do have a hard time watching anyone give up when they've said I do. BUT, this forum is no place for religion and I don't want to alienate myself by being that person. Lamar is back in Cali, so that's a good sign, let's hope for good things. 2 Link to comment
mwell345 October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 I hope that Khloe can now find time to get the rest she needs. (and I mean leaving the hospital for periods, not sleeping on a bed next to him- that is NOT rest). My husband was in ICU, on a ventilator for 3 days in June, then was moved to intermediate care. At that point, the nurses and doctors strongly encouraged me to leave and get rest because of the care he was going to need when he came home. It's hard because you feel guilty, but it's important to take care of yourself too - and to just get away from the hospital setting for periods. I had to remind myself that I was a phone call away, and that he was in good hands with the doctors and nurses there. Khloe no longer needs to be there 24/7. Lamar is getting the best care he can receive and she too, is cell phone call away. I hope she realizes that. 2 Link to comment
Dahlia October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 His medical care has to be expensive. Is she responsible? Being Canadian I always wonder who's on the hook for all this? I know taxpayers would be pissed off paying for this when vets etc are struggling. Call me cold but IMO self inflicted should be self supported .... Link to comment
Honey October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 This marriage has been over for a long time. Why would Khloe care for him after he goes home? He cheated on her, disrespected her and humiliated her. What a catch!! Clearly, he doesn't love her. If she can't see that after finding him unconscious in a whorehouse, I don't know what it will take. I would respect her more if her support this week was for the cameras, than if it was because she wants this cheater back. I don't know about that. My own daughter stole from me, lied to me, humiliated me. And yet she loved me more than anything in the world. But she's an addict. Addicted to an evil drug capable of changing your entire being. It's very possible that Lamar loves Khloe very much. P.S. My daughter has been clean for a year and a half now, and is doing great. I got my loving, honest, wonderful girl back. 18 Link to comment
Cocoa Puff October 20, 2015 Share October 20, 2015 His medical care has to be expensive. Is she responsible? Being Canadian I always wonder who's on the hook for all this? I know taxpayers would be pissed off paying for this when vets etc are struggling. Call me cold but IMO self inflicted should be self supported .... He's non active/retired NBA player I'd like to asume that the NBA offers medical insurance to it's players also Lamar is not broke and neither is Khloe so yes I am sure the cost of his care is in the several thousands of dollars and growing but I seriously doubt that the Nevada or Califorina tax payers will have to pay for anythign related to Lamar's care other than the Police, EMTs, ect 3 Link to comment
Rosiejuliemom October 21, 2015 Share October 21, 2015 Apparently, a judge has dismissed their divorce petition at the couple's request: http://www.people.com/article/khloe-kardashian-lamar-odom-call-off-divorce Link to comment
Cocoa Puff October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 God bless them. The fight is just beginning them .http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/22/khloe-kardashian-lamar-odom-drugs/ Link to comment
grisgris October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 I have a friend who is going on dialysis and with all of the meds and toxins floating around in her system, plus pain and exhaustion, she's lucky if she has the presence of mind to keep track of her cell phone within the confines of a nursing home. It's surprises me that Lamar is coherent enough to make decisions about the divorce, realize that drugs put him in his present state, etc. Anybody will talk a good game when they recover from a life-threatening experience. How long it lasts, remains to be seen, especially with a hard-core addict. I think Khloe's a fool for taking Lamar back. This fits perfectly into her role as caretaker, co-dependent and tragic romantic heroine. Luckily, Khloe has the financial resources to provide round-the-clock care for Lamar, so it's not like she's having to juggle a job and family, plus be the primary caregiver -- like most regular folks would have to do. I suppose she really is in a catch-22, if she takes him back, she gets flak for being weak, stupid, enabling, etc. OTOH, if she just dumped his ass flat (like she really should) she'll be vilified. No-win. The sensible thing to do would be proceed with the divorce, but publicly show her support for Lamar. There is no reason why she can't remain cordial with him, but just distance herself. Ha! 3 Link to comment
Mu Shu October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 I have a friend who is going on dialysis and with all of the meds and toxins floating around in her system, plus pain and exhaustion, she's lucky if she has the presence of mind to keep track of her cell phone within the confines of a nursing home. It's surprises me that Lamar is coherent enough to make decisions about the divorce, realize that drugs put him in his present state, etc. Anybody will talk a good game when they recover from a life-threatening experience. How long it lasts, remains to be seen, especially with a hard-core addict. I think Khloe's a fool for taking Lamar back. This fits perfectly into her role as caretaker, co-dependent and tragic romantic heroine. Luckily, Khloe has the financial resources to provide round-the-clock care for Lamar, so it's not like she's having to juggle a job and family, plus be the primary caregiver -- like most regular folks would have to do. I suppose she really is in a catch-22, if she takes him back, she gets flak for being weak, stupid, enabling, etc. OTOH, if she just dumped his ass flat (like she really should) she'll be vilified. No-win. The sensible thing to do would be proceed with the divorce, but publicly show her support for Lamar. There is no reason why she can't remain cordial with him, but just distance herself. Ha! Absolutely. She owes him nothing more than the sight or her fat ass walking away from him. He has family and wherewithal, and since he's apparently going to recover, she doesn't have to make any medical decisions for him. His family, insurance, and patient advocates can handle arranging his care from here on out. She's likely not going to be a viable donor if he does need a transplant. One thing I do admire about Kim is her ability to dole out tough love and make it stick. She gets a lot of shit for being detached from Rob, but she's handling that situation in a healthy manner. Every now and again I do like her. Khloe seems to be more of an enabler, which is actually more harmful in the long run. Kim will just rip that damn bandaid off your hairy back and walk off, but Khloe will make it hurt more by sticking around and drawing it out. Anyway, I hope Lamar recovers and has some quality of life. 1 Link to comment
Jeanius October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 I think Khloe's a fool for taking Lamar back. This fits perfectly into her role as caretaker, co-dependent and tragic romantic heroine. Well now - how can she be a fool when it fits her perfectly? I think it may work out nicely for her. Lamar may be too fucked up to go out on his own, or without Nurse Khloe by his side (pushing the XXL wheelchair?) Perhaps he will be so mentally impaired that he can't even figure out how to dial up the last dealer on his cell. Maybe he is such a mess he will be on other legal drugs for the rest of his life. It is hard to say what their future will be until we see how he progresses. It seems amazing that he made it this far, given his history of abuse. Even if he is young and healthy, I would think he faces serious medical issues. Khloe can be the caregiver, and be a heroine, if they "last." Maybe she can carry on with any other male that is willing to be her side piece, so to speak, but maybe Lamar will be so messed up that he doesn't even care, or is aware of what Khloe might do when she has "down time." They BOTH has the $$$$moolah$$$$ to make it so much easier - round the clock nurses, extra sets of hands, best health care money can buy (don't tell me every patient is equal. Some patients are more $$$$equal$$$$ than others.) I think Khloe is in a great position (of power, for now plus she is NEEDED and WANTED). AND, a storyline to boot!! For whatever show she wants. CONTENT for her APP I am cynical, but I also see possible "happiness" for them both. Shallowly, I wonder about Lamar's sexual appetite, and drive, given the, er, events that we have heard about. The herbal Viagra?? The apparent problems with Khloe and Lamar's sex life? (Who in their right mind would want all this personal and private stuff "out there" for all to feast on? Oh. Right. Them.) Maybe Lamar can't even perform anymore, so sex and infidelity won't be an issue!! Every cloud has a silver lining .... 1 Link to comment
Cocoa Puff October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 Well now - how can she be a fool when it fits her perfectly? I think it may work out nicely for her. Lamar may be too fucked up to go out on his own, or without Nurse Khloe by his side (pushing the XXL wheelchair?) Perhaps he will be so mentally impaired that he can't even figure out how to dial up the last dealer on his cell. Maybe he is such a mess he will be on other legal drugs for the rest of his life. It is hard to say what their future will be until we see how he progresses. It seems amazing that he made it this far, given his history of abuse. Even if he is young and healthy, I would think he faces serious medical issues. Khloe can be the caregiver, and be a heroine, if they "last." Maybe she can carry on with any other male that is willing to be her side piece, so to speak, but maybe Lamar will be so messed up that he doesn't even care, or is aware of what Khloe might do when she has "down time." They BOTH has the $$$$moolah$$$$ to make it so much easier - round the clock nurses, extra sets of hands, best health care money can buy (don't tell me every patient is equal. Some patients are more $$$$equal$$$$ than others.) I think Khloe is in a great position (of power, for now plus she is NEEDED and WANTED). AND, a storyline to boot!! For whatever show she wants. CONTENT for her APP I am cynical, but I also see possible "happiness" for them both. Shallowly, I wonder about Lamar's sexual appetite, and drive, given the, er, events that we have heard about. The herbal Viagra?? The apparent problems with Khloe and Lamar's sex life? (Who in their right mind would want all this personal and private stuff "out there" for all to feast on? Oh. Right. Them.) Maybe Lamar can't even perform anymore, so sex and infidelity won't be an issue!! Every cloud has a silver lining .... I think he was too wasted to worry about kids and Khloe saw that and probably doubled up on the birth control. Also if your a man in fairly good health and you hit up a brothel you'd want to pop some viagra to play longer too, no? I don't know I just got off a 12hr shift at the hospital so I'm not thinking right. Link to comment
SPLAIN October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 This marriage has been over for a long time. Why would Khloe care for him after he goes home? He cheated on her, disrespected her and humiliated her. What a catch!! Clearly, he doesn't love her. If she can't see that after finding him unconscious in a whorehouse, I don't know what it will take. I would respect her more if her support this week was for the cameras, than if it was because she wants this cheater back. Clearly the actions of an addict. Nothing Lamar did/does surprised me because I know he is an addict. I have witnessed addicts come through my workplace who have committed far worse sins than Lamar. I am talking criminal acts. But for the drugs, would Lamar have committed these sins against his wife? I can't say. It is likely Khloe is willing to see that his actions and behavior were due to drug abuse. Those who abuse drugs, especially meth, tend to have a sexual appetite that can never be satisfied. Lamar going to the Love Ranch is only because he has the money. If he didn't that kind of money, he'd likely would have sought sex elsewhere, anywhere. Many people continue to love the person, not the addict. Many family members continue to love a spouse, a sibling, a child no matter if they are an addict. Feelings cannot be turned off. They can set boundaries. It doesn't mean they hate the person. They are cutting them out of their lives to save their own sanity and well-being. People can support an addict without enabling. 3 Link to comment
MarysWetBar October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 I think crack cocaine can affect the libido. .let alone IV drugs. He's likely taking viagra due to that. 1 Link to comment
Darknight October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 This whole divorce story sounds fishy. The way the Kardashians dragged Lamar on their show. Now suddenly the divorce is called off. Doesn't sound right 2 Link to comment
SPLAIN October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 (edited) An adult man can be dragged to be on a show? If that's the case, why is Rob absent from the show? Unless Lamar was held against his will with a gun put to his head, he made the choice to be a part of their show. He chose to do the spin-off. This is just like whats-her-name, Kim Richards on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Her sister gets blamed for Kim being on the show when in reality, it is Kim who signs the contract. I couldn't stand Kim on that show. Her buddy as well, Brandi. That is why I stopped watching it. He's likely taking viagra due to that. He can have the desire for sex but, not be achieving erection all the time. I know a lady who confided to some of us at work how her husband, a former alcoholic, was always wanting sex from her. After he went to rehab, their sex life wasn't as busy. She felt as if her spouse only desired her when he was a drunk. Not true. His desire for sex was heightened because of his drinking. Just yesterday, E! showed the episode where Rob mentions Lamar told him about his and Khloe's sex life and how he gets "back door" access. Edited October 23, 2015 by SPLAIN Link to comment
riffraff October 24, 2015 Share October 24, 2015 Ok. So Khloe was always my fav because it seemed like she was the most real. I don't care that she had work done because she is under pressure to look like fricking Kim and Kourtney. She has always been "the fat one" fuc that shit. I feel like her love for Lamar was real, but now I am wondering. Was she bidding her time for this?? I don't blame her if she was. All she ever wanted was him. I want this to be the fairy tail they created on tv. Because I feel like even though she has become a butterfly, it was to make Lamar want her more. She was never the ugly one by any means, we are all just jealous mfs. Though I would have makeup artists on call 24/7 if I was her. I guess just watching her cover for him makes me want it to work out. She lied to her family for him and we know what a sneak Kim is. She hacked into one of Khloe's bf's phones. So I want this to work. But I agree with everyone that this should be private. They should stay off the tv for at least 5 years. I don't know if that is possible. But if it is true rove, they will stay off the tv. 1 Link to comment
Artsda October 24, 2015 Share October 24, 2015 (edited) E! just showed an old episode that made me hope Khloe knows what she's doing. Lamar and Khloe had just returned from the Dallas Mavericks experience and Khloe was getting defensive when the sisters were asking to spend time with her because they never saw her anymore. They were saying how Khloe is Lamar's everything because he's lost everyone else, she gets angry over them asking her to do anything with them and Khloe is always trying to make his life perfect at the expense of seeing her family. Unless Lamar really kicks his habits and gets help. I don't see how Khloe doesn't end back up in this same spot she was in years ago. She may already be in the same spot. She couldn't take 2 hours to go to Kim's birthday party. Edited October 24, 2015 by Artsda 1 Link to comment
iwasish October 24, 2015 Share October 24, 2015 E! just showed an old episode that made me hope Khloe knows what she's doing. Lamar and Khloe had just returned from the Dallas Mavericks experience and Khloe was getting defensive when the sisters were asking to spend time with her because they never saw her anymore. They were saying how Khloe is Lamar's everything because he's lost everyone else, she gets angry over them asking her to do anything with them and Khloe is always trying to make his life perfect at the expense of seeing her family. Unless Lamar really kicks his habits and gets help. I don't see how Khloe doesn't end back up in this same spot she was in years ago. She may already be in the same spot. She couldn't take 2 hours to go to Kim's birthday party. She wants to be seen as so incredibly loyal and devoted to her family and friends, but she isn't. All her talk about supporting Caitlyn and wanting her to be happy, all great until Caitlyn didn't confide in her or tell her exactly what her plans were. How many secrets did she keep from her family, how many lies did she tell them? Not so much to protect Lamar, but to keep them from knowing what a mess she got herself into, that Lamar wasn't great guy she touted him to be. Things will be all good between her and Lamar as long as he needs her, once/if he's up and around and unless he gets himself straight, he'll be right back to what he was before. With his history as an addict... all the stuff the hospital gives him for pain, to sleep etc, all that will go home with him and she'll have to monitor his usage. I read today that he has had multiple stokes. I hope she thinks long and hard about whether or not she wants to spend all they rest of her younger years taking care of Lammy. Compunded with Rob and his problems. All the while the rest of the family is having a blast and insta-gramming pictures of all the fun she's missing out on. 3 Link to comment
Veronique Bette October 24, 2015 Share October 24, 2015 E! just showed an old episode that made me hope Khloe knows what she's doing. Lamar and Khloe had just returned from the Dallas Mavericks experience and Khloe was getting defensive when the sisters were asking to spend time with her because they never saw her anymore. They were saying how Khloe is Lamar's everything because he's lost everyone else, she gets angry over them asking her to do anything with them and Khloe is always trying to make his life perfect at the expense of seeing her family. Unless Lamar really kicks his habits and gets help. I don't see how Khloe doesn't end back up in this same spot she was in years ago. She may already be in the same spot. She couldn't take 2 hours to go to Kim's birthday party. If Kim is a loving sister and has the least bit of compassion and intelligence, she will realize that Khloe is physically and emotionally exhausted and drained from keeping a bedside vigil for Lamar, someone she deeply loves. Whether she should love him is beside the point because obviously she does love him. Whether they can make their marriage work if he survives, is a story for another day. For the moment, I would imagine that she uses her downtime from the ICU to get much-needed rest and peace. In her place, watching a loved one struggle to survive, the very last thing I would have on my mind is attending anyone’s birthday party, even for an hour or two. It’s not as if I would be missing a wedding or funeral or something of that importance. And if my relative or friend didn’t have the sensitivity to understand where my priorities would lie during a loved one’s life-or-death medical crisis, that would be their problem, not mine. 7 Link to comment
Cocoa Puff October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 Good for Ceaders Hospital! Since he's been moved there's been a lot less TMZ "from our sources" leaked information about his conditon. I am sure that Sunrise Hospital and Valley View Hospital system that owns it and it's sister hospitals will be implementing changes to its hosptials to handle patients like this in the future. Many celebrities go to Las Vegas and God forbid they have a major health crisis. http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/23/lamar-odom-security-guarding-hospital-room-24-7/ 1 Link to comment
SPLAIN October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 (edited) Good for Ceaders Hospital! Since he's been moved there's been a lot less TMZ "from our sources" leaked information about his conditon. I am sure that Sunrise Hospital and Valley View Hospital system that owns it and it's sister hospitals will be implementing changes to its hosptials to handle patients like this in the future. Many celebrities go to Las Vegas and God forbid they have a major health crisis. http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/23/lamar-odom-security-guarding-hospital-room-24-7/ Cedars is not immune from having employees breach patient confidentiality. This article dated 2013 mentions the firing of employees over the breaching of patient records, including the records of Kim Kardashian. When it comes to TMZ, they have sources everywhere: http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jul/12/local/la-me-hospital-security-breach-20130713 Edited October 25, 2015 by SPLAIN 1 Link to comment
Bronzedog October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 I'm not sure Lamar deserves Khloe. 1 Link to comment
GaT October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 I'm not sure Lamar deserves Khloe. Klhloe is reminding me of Rihanna after Chris Brown beat her. She gave an interview to Oprah where she said "As angry as I was, angry & hurt & betrayed, I just felt like he made that mistake because he needed help, and like, who's going to help him? Nobody's going to say "he needs help", everybody's going to say "he's a monster" without looking at the source. I was more concerned about him" Lamar kept taking drugs, cheated on her, would disappear for days, & even made a video where he rapped about cheating on Khloe & publically humiliated her, but no matter what he does, she's more concerned about him. I find it sad & pathetic. 5 Link to comment
iwasish October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 I think there are less leaks because there are less people hanging around and also there might not be that much happening. I do think he is in worse shape than it seems they want the public to believe. His ex and his kids, are they even still in LA? I haven't seen a picture of them in the las few days, and I read Khloe is the only one allowed bedside. Could be that's why they called off the divorce, to limit visitors or to give Khloe control over who sees him. I don't hold out much hope for a happy ending. Link to comment
Bronzedog October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 I suspect if Lamar makes a reasonable recovery he'll go back to his old ways. People tend to treat long term illnesses like they do a death. Everyone rallies initially, but then after the initial event they go back to their normal lives, even though the trauma continues to those who were directly impacted. So, I'm sure there are a lot less people attempting to visit Lamar. JMO. 1 Link to comment
howmanywords October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 I havent seen anything from E or TMZ (the only sites that I trust with legit sources) that indicate he isnt in severely bad shape. Even if they arent spelling out all of the problems one by one - let's face it, if there is a possibility he will need a kidney transplant right there that pretty much tells you that someone is extremely sick. Supposedly he cant even walk just yet either as a result of the twelve strokes. E said, per the hospital, they arent allowing visitors except Khloe until he shows improvement so that's probably why you arent seeing anyone else there. Link to comment
Fostersmom October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 It would make sense they are limiting visitors right now. He's obviously in a medically fragile state and shouldn't be dealing with having people parade in and out trying to talk to him when he can't really hold a conversation, but would just get more and more agitated by his situation. When he was still in the coma, obviously people were going to say their potential last goodbyes. 1 Link to comment
iwasish October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 (edited) That's logical, unless you're doing a death bed vigil, there's nothing really to do but sit . I suspect at sometime even Khloe will emerge, it isn't healthy for her to be there nonstop. Odd that he had twelve strokes, is bedridden and possibly unable to walk, can't really communicate yet was lucid enough to sign papers to ask the divorce be stopped. Edited October 25, 2015 by iwasish 2 Link to comment
nexxie October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 I agree with those who have said that Khloe is an enabler - she enabled Lamar, Rob, and Scott. Not good. 3 Link to comment
Cocoa Puff October 26, 2015 Share October 26, 2015 I bet they feel dumb now.http://m.tmz.com/#article/2015/10/26/lamar-odom-hospital-employees-fired/ 1 Link to comment
ByTor October 27, 2015 Share October 27, 2015 I bet they feel dumb now.I hope they do. Good luck finding new employment after doing one of the worst things a health care worker can do. 1 Link to comment
howmanywords October 27, 2015 Share October 27, 2015 The hysterical thing is these idiots didn't even (thankfully) obtain the picture. I'm sure they are pissed they weren't at least able to make some big bucks before getting fired. 1 Link to comment
HumblePi October 27, 2015 Share October 27, 2015 (edited) That's logical, unless you're doing a death bed vigil, there's nothing really to do but sit . I suspect at sometime even Khloe will emerge, it isn't healthy for her to be there nonstop. Odd that he had twelve strokes, is bedridden and possibly unable to walk, can't really communicate yet was lucid enough to sign papers to ask the divorce be stopped. Atually, any legal decisions he makes right now can be contested in a court of law because he's not mentally or physically competent to make legal decisions. Is Khloe really prepared to take care of a man that was in the physical condition of a healthy, strong 35 year old man just weeks ago and is now essentially a very sick, very mentally impaired, physically 80 year old and very sick man? It may have been a seemingly altruistic act on her part believing that she could 'save' Lamar by taking over his medical care. Sure, she can afford a team of medical professionals to attend to his physical needs, but is she prepared to be there day by day as he passes back and forth from small advances to devastating setbacks along the road to better health? I can't even say 'recovery' because there's some serious doubt as to whether Lamar will every fully recover. Does she think he's going to be well enough to accompany her to Paris, or go clubbing together, or even have a rich sexual life with Lamar Odom? If she does, she's going to find out very quickly that her life will change drastically and whether or not a young, vivacious woman of 31 years of age is prepared to essentially give up her old life for a new one as caregiver and nurse is yet to be proven. Everyone says that Lamar Odom is 'lucky to be alive' but is he really? Time will tell. Edited October 27, 2015 by HumblePi Link to comment
GaT October 27, 2015 Share October 27, 2015 Atually, any legal decisions he makes right now can be contested in a court of law because he's not mentally or physically competent to make legal decisions. We have no idea what his mental (or his physical) state is at this point, we only know what the rumors are, so while I'm sure he's got some serious physical problems, he may be fine mentally. Also, TMZ reported that the reason the divorce was called off was because Lamar's medical insurance is going to expire in January, so if they're still married, he would be covered under Khloe's insurance. Don't know how true that is, but if that's the reason they canceled the divorce, it seems reasonable & I don't know why anyone would contest that. 2 Link to comment
iwasish October 27, 2015 Share October 27, 2015 So the NBA has no health insurance plans for former/retired members? And with all his supposed money, Lamar doesn't have a policy? What about his children? Maybe with his past drug history, the NBA cancelled his policy? Link to comment
Cocoa Puff October 27, 2015 Share October 27, 2015 So the NBA has no health insurance plans for former/retired members? And with all his supposed money, Lamar doesn't have a policy? What about his children? Maybe with his past drug history, the NBA cancelled his policy? If Lamar wasn't paying the premeum then i bet that sucker got cancelled 1 Link to comment
GaT October 27, 2015 Share October 27, 2015 So the NBA has no health insurance plans for former/retired members? And with all his supposed money, Lamar doesn't have a policy? What about his children? Maybe with his past drug history, the NBA cancelled his policy? The NBA does have medical insurance for retired players, but I'm not sure Lamar is considered "retired", he just can't find a team to hire him which isn't the same. Or like carolinagirl81 said above, he couldn't have stopped paying the premium. His kids could be covered under their mother's policy. Link to comment
Cocoa Puff October 27, 2015 Share October 27, 2015 The NBA does have medical insurance for retired players, but I'm not sure Lamar is considered "retired", he just can't find a team to hire him which isn't the same. Or like carolinagirl81 said above, he couldn't have stopped paying the premium. His kids could be covered under their mother's policy. That's what I left out the i lol Lord I am such a HORRIBLE speller I need webistes to have spell checker like MS Word. lol Link to comment
GaT October 27, 2015 Share October 27, 2015 I need webistes to have spell checker like MS Word. lol My browser (Chrome) has spell check which I have on all the time, what browser do you use? I think they all have spell check. Link to comment
Cocoa Puff October 28, 2015 Share October 28, 2015 I use chrome to but I don't think that it let's you correct the word like me word does. Link to comment
GaT October 28, 2015 Share October 28, 2015 (edited) I use chrome to but I don't think that it let's you correct the word like me word does. You have to enable it. Go into settings, click on Advanced Settings at the bottom, & under the Privacy section makes sure the box that says "Use a web service to help resolve spelling errors" is checked. A box will pop up asking if you want to enable it, click on yes and you're done. Misspelled words will have a red line under them from now on. Edited October 28, 2015 by GaT 2 Link to comment
Cocoa Puff October 28, 2015 Share October 28, 2015 You have to enable it. Go into settings, click on Advanced Settings at the bottom, & under the Privacy section makes sure the box that says "Use a web service to help resolve spelling errors" is checked. A box will pop up asking if you want to enable it, click on yes and you're done. Misspelled words will have a red line under them from now on. Thanks! Link to comment
DangerousMinds October 28, 2015 Share October 28, 2015 (edited) Absolutely. She owes him nothing more than the sight or her fat ass walking away from him. He has family and wherewithal, and since he's apparently going to recover, she doesn't have to make any medical decisions for him. His family, insurance, and patient advocates can handle arranging his care from here on out. She's likely not going to be a viable donor if he does need a transplant. One thing I do admire about Kim is her ability to dole out tough love and make it stick. She gets a lot of shit for being detached from Rob, but she's handling that situation in a healthy manner. Every now and again I do like her. Khloe seems to be more of an enabler, which is actually more harmful in the long run. Kim will just rip that damn bandaid off your hairy back and walk off, but Khloe will make it hurt more by sticking around and drawing it out. Anyway, I hope Lamar recovers and has some quality of life. Or maybe Khloe is a believer in her marriage vows - for better or worse, in sickness and in health? Just a thought. There is a train of thought that when someone gets married, their spouse is now their "family." If Kim is a loving sister and has the least bit of compassion and intelligence, Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!! Edited October 28, 2015 by DangerousMinds Link to comment
Mu Shu October 28, 2015 Share October 28, 2015 Or maybe Khloe is a believer in her marriage vows - for better or worse, in sickness and in health? Just a thought. There is a train of thought that when someone gets married, their spouse is now their "family." Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!! Yeah, I guess cheating on your wife is honoring your wedding vows. And taking the cheater back makes her a saint. Fuck that noise. 2 Link to comment
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