NFL Thread

[FuriousStyles]

On 8/31/2016 at 2:28 PM, DollEyes said:

Worse, an ex-player named Rodney Harrison accused Kapernick of not being Black when Kapernick is part Black. News flash: Kapernick didn't check his First Amendment rights at the door when he turned pro. Like the saying goes, "To whom much is given, much is expected." Kapernick has the money, the the voice and the platform. How he uses them is up to him. 

Uggg....I dont usually go on twitter to tweet things to people unless it's like a Mike&Mike question or something, but I was compelled to say something to Rodney Harrison because that was one of the most ignorant statements I've heard so far this week, of which there were many.  How the hell would Rodney Harrison know what Kaepernick has been through?  On what planet is Kaepernick not black? I don't know his background exactly...I think he was adopted by a white family or something?  But Kaepernick's skin tone (which ironically is pretty close to Rodney's, IMO) makes him just as susceptible to the struggles and outright DANGERS of being black in America. Never mind all his tattoes and the way he dresses. I dont understand why Rodney, and just recently Boomer Esiason, and others are bringing out how much money Kaepernick makes. As if being rich makes you immune from racism.  There is no corner of this country that a black person can go to where they would be free from racism. 

Speaking of Boomer. Please STFU!  He says what Kaepernick did is about as disrespectful as an athlete has ever been.  Really??  All this backlash and people (not surprising the white ones) coming out the woodwork saying how disrespectful Kaepernick is; how he should just be happy to be collecting his $11 million paycheck; it's not the time or place to highlight racial/social injustice (when it comes to black people); supposedly some executives (no doubt white) would cut Kaepernick or not hire him, etc. etc. etc.  All this because he didn't stand for the National Anthem at a preseason game.  I'm shuttering thinking about what would have happened if Ali, Jim Brown, and the like were in their prime in 2016 and took their political stands as they did back in the day.

Edited September 1, 2016 by FuriousStyles

[merylinkid]

6 hours ago, Ohwell said:

It's almost as if someone or something made Kaepernick "snap" recently, and I'm not just talking about the recent killings of black men by police.  

I honestly believe he wants out of SF so bad this is his solution.   He knows that Chip Kelly does not like outspoken players, especially black players.   He wanted a trade in the offseason, Kelly wouldn't let it happen.   Kelly KNOWS he doesn't have a decent QB in Gabbert and Ponder.   So he can't let Kap go.   But on the other hand, he doesn't want to play the guy.   So Kap is caught in this situation where he won't be traded/released but he won't play either.   So, he suddenly discovers activism to force Kelly's hand.   So far, Kelly is not biting.  But final cut down day is this weekend.   If my theory is right, Kap may try something really outrageous on Friday to get the hell out.

[FuriousStyles]

But if Kaep wanted to use activism as a way to get out of San Francisco, wouldn't he have done something more outspoken than just sitting down for the Anthem?  The only reason people are talking about this is because a reporter asked Kaep about it. 

Secondly, if Kaep is so desperate to get out of San Fran that he'd go to such lengths which apparently is only serving to alienate other players and annoy executives, why not just take the pay cut and sign with the Broncos when they were interested?  As it is now, if Chip does cut him, he's labelled a distraction and will probably have to sign with a team on a discounted rate anyway. At least if he had signed with the Broncos, he'd be on a championship level team.

Edited September 2, 2016 by FuriousStyles

[Carey]

Meh on Kaep (though that's total crap to do that with the purpose of getting cut, if that actually is his intention). Just more overkill with this story, but for me, I'm okay with it.  The reason why is that on September 8, NBC (and later CBS, FOX, and ESPN) will be too busy talking about actual football that actually counts to worry about what some guy does during the anthem

[ganesh]

Kap actually is trying to get cut. I heard he shot a stripper at a club, punched some woman out cold and then got drunk and drove on the sidewalk and crashed into a wedding. But that didn't work because the NFL has so much integrity. So, he sat down and was thinking really hard of what he could do next and forgot the anthem was playing. 

[Jx223]

I feel like this whole thing with Colin is being overblown. Tonight on NFL network they actually had a headline scroll across the bottom that they would go to Kaep sitting when the national anthem played before the Seahawks/Raiders game. That is overblowing things IMO. I think that in the past couple of years sports media has really liked to sensationalize subjects that are already very serious. They have been doing it with the several stories about domestic violence afflicting the NFL and now they are doing it to Colin and his stance on the anthem and racial issues. It’s seems like they have some sort of agenda going on. An agenda to escalate tension/feelings of a story about subjects that are already very serious (racism/police brutality). They are reporting on every little thing Colin is doing to get hits/views/attention for their networks/media outlets.

I understand that a lot of people don’t like what Colin is doing, but he does have the right to do this and he is doing it peacefully. A lot of people say he’s doing it for attention, but people wouldn’t have been aware of it, if he wasn’t asked about it by a reporter. If he hadn’t been asked about it, he wouldn’t have said anything about it. He would have just kept sitting. I think that he is doing what he feels is right and didn’t originally intend to use his stance to get attention. I believe that it was reported he had sat for the anthem once before, and he didn't seek any attention during that time. He just sat.

I thought last season that he didn’t really want to be in with the 49ers as he seemed kind of disengaged during the season. But I don’t think he’s doing this to get released from them. There really isn’t a better place for him to go right now. There may have been before the draft when it was reported/speculated he could go to multiple teams like the Browns, Broncos, Eagles and Jets. But now the 49ers may be his best shot at a being a starter in the NFL this season.

Edited September 2, 2016 by Jx223

[Moose135]

40 minutes ago, Jx223 said:

I feel like this whole thing with Colin is being overblown. Tonight on NFL network they actually had a headline scroll across the bottom that they would go to Kaep sitting when the national anthem played before the Seahawks/Raiders game.

I was watching the Giants game on NFL Network, and they cut away from the game just before the 2-minute warning in the 4th quarter to go live to watch Kap during the anthem.  I realize it's a meaningless pre-season game, but they cut away from actual football for that.

[xaxat]

So I see that Kaepernick was continuously booed during last night's military appreciation night in San Diego. One would think he had ridiculed a decorated war veteran for being held as a prisoner of war while fighting for our country.

BTW, is the NFL "respecting" our armed services enough to no longer charge them for the privilege of being appreciated?

I agree with Kaep for the most part, but the socks were a bad idea.

[Morrigan2575]

I think it's an absolute shame that the focus is on Kaep sitting for the anthem and arguments over respect/disrespectful. People should focus on the reason for his protest not the method.

[DrSpaceman73]

I just wish people would stop talking about Kaep and the anthem and start talking about actual football, since the season starts in less than a week.

 

And on that note, are we having an NFL picks thread this year?  Or renewing the old one?  I forget how it worked, if we used this thread or a separate one for the picks

An eliminator game could be done as well......pick a team each week as a guaranteed win, can only pick each team once, last person standing wins

 

Edited to add :  I looked there is the NFL 2015-16 football pool.  Can continue that one or start a 2016-17 one.  Can just do the eliminator in what that thread if anyone is interested. 

Edited September 2, 2016 by DrSpaceman73

[scriggle]

22 minutes ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

And on that note, are we having an NFL picks thread this year?  Or renewing the old one?  I forget how it worked, if we used this thread or a separate one for the picks

An eliminator game could be done as well......pick a team each week as a guaranteed win, can only pick each team once, last person standing wins

I was wondering that myself. I'm in if we're doing weekly picks.

[Ohwell]

18 hours ago, merylinkid said:

I honestly believe he wants out of SF so bad this is his solution.   He knows that Chip Kelly does not like outspoken players, especially black players.   He wanted a trade in the offseason, Kelly wouldn't let it happen.   Kelly KNOWS he doesn't have a decent QB in Gabbert and Ponder.   So he can't let Kap go.   But on the other hand, he doesn't want to play the guy.   So Kap is caught in this situation where he won't be traded/released but he won't play either.   So, he suddenly discovers activism to force Kelly's hand.   So far, Kelly is not biting.  But final cut down day is this weekend.   If my theory is right, Kap may try something really outrageous on Friday to get the hell out.

Hmmm...interesting.  Guess we'll find out soon enough.

[Mountainair]

I PM'd Halcyon about it earlier. Haven't heard a reply yet but I think last year the thread got started just a few days before season kick off. I suspect we will see something soon!

[BestestAuntEver]

Deluking. I want to be in the football pool again this year too

[Jx223]

According to Jeff Fisher, Jared Goff, is probably going to end up being #3 on the depth chart behind Case Keenum and Sean Mannion. I don’t know when the last time a QB was taken #1, in the draft but ended up #3 on the depth chart. Jared has been struggling in the preseason and it looks like he will definitely need more time to learn how to play football at the NFL level. I hope things work out for him and he grows as a QB. I believe that the Rams definitely hopes that he works out given they gave up so much to get him. If he doesn’t work out, that would be end up being a pretty tough break for the Rams.

I think that Sean Mannion has looked decent in the preseason and I am interested in seeing how he might look if he gets more playing time during the regular season.

Edited September 2, 2016 by Jx223

[merylinkid]

Oh right the football pool.   I believe I have a (miracle) title to defend.   Which means I will wind up dead last this year.

[nowandlater]

2 hours ago, Jx223 said:

According to Jeff Fisher, Jared Goff, is probably going to end up being #3 on the depth chart behind Case Keenum and Sean Mannion. I don’t know when the last time a QB was taken #1, in the draft but ended up #3 on the depth chart. Jared has been struggling in the preseason and it looks like he will definitely need more time to learn how to play football at the NFL level. I hope things work out for him and he grows as a QB. I believe that the Rams definitely hopes that he works out given they gave up so much to get him. If he doesn’t work out, that would be end up being a pretty tough break for the Rams.

I think that Sean Mannion has looked decent in the preseason and I am interested in seeing how he might look if he gets more playing time during the regular season.

 

 

Also, I'm not saying Jared Goff is the next Aaron Rodgers. But Rodgers looked worse than Goff during his first preseason.

http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/packers/rodgers-made-a-career-audible-with-packers-4p3loj7-136856133.html

[MarkHB]

I'll take over running the pool thread this year; it'll be set up by the end of the weekend.

[AimingforYoko]

The Vikings must really believe this is their year. 

Vikings trade for Philly QB Sam Bradford.

Did not see that coming. I'd thought they'd ride it out, maybe get a veteran back-up.

[MarkHB]

For those of you who might come directly to this thread and not see it, the pool thread is here.

[crimsongrl]

I know the Vikings are desperate but in what world is Sam Bradford worth a #1 (and #4) pick!? Ugh. Hope he stays healthy.

I'm tempted to play in the pool this year but I'm so damn indecisive. Just filling out a bracket in March drives me crazy. Lets see if I can last a few months.

MarkHB, can you pin the pool thread to the top of the sports forum?

[mojoween]

Here's the thing.  I understand that if this particular fandom were an island, it would fit inside a three bedroom house with room in two bedrooms and a closet to spare but I don't care.  I like Mark Sanchez.  Yeah I said it.

He made one colossal mistake and the Internet is the Internet so it is going to live forever.  But he's not a bad guy, he's one of a small portion of people who make it to play in the NFL and I just flat out like him. I feel badly (while he cries into a mattress of money, I get that) that he gets shit on all of the time.

Now with that said, if he really did sign with the Cowboys he's dead to me.

[merylinkid]

He really did sign with the Cowboys.

It's not about the butt fumble.   It's that he never really played at the level necessary for the NFL.    It's all the OTHER fumbles.   Good Grief, the Broncos would rather go with Trevor Siemens than him.   Some guy over a former first round pick.   That is how bad he is.   Sure he made it in the NFL for a bit.   But he really is not any team's answer at QB.   

I was so looking forward to the Dak Prescott years.   You know Jerrah was behind this and he's going to be pushing for this mess to start.   WHYYYYYYYYY?   

[twoods]

I think Prescott is still the starter and Sanchez is his backup. The Cowboys had to do something if Prescott got injured during the season and they would be left with no one. I also like Sanchez and he does have experience. Other than Palmer, the past few USC quarterbacks have fared poorly in the NFL. They do well in college and somehow falter once they get a chance to shine in the NFL.

[Morrigan2575]

Yeah, I would think Sanchez would be the backup in Dallas. 

Hmm, Kaep is #2 in San Fran, at least for the first game.

Edited September 3, 2016 by Morrigan2575

[HeroWorld]

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I know the Vikings are desperate but in what world is Sam Bradford worth a #1 (and #4) pick!? 

New-ish to the NFL, can someone tell me how a team knows its going to get for example first round #1 and #4 picks in the Draft, when making trades. What if they dont, what then?

[King of Birds]

5 hours ago, crimsongrl said:

I know the Vikings are desperate but in what world is Sam Bradford worth a #1 (and #4) pick!? Ugh. Hope he stays healthy.

He isn't worth those picks. Just shows you that the Minnesota GM was out of his mind making this trade. Plus! The indignity is, if somehow the Vikings make a certain level of the playoffs, due to the other 52 teammates, the #4 pick becomes a #3 or #2. 

Kill me now.

[nowandlater]

21 minutes ago, WildCardD said:

New-ish to the NFL, can someone tell me how a team knows its going to get for example first round #1 and #4 picks in the Draft, when making trades. What if they dont, what then?

Every team has 1 pick in each of the seven rounds.

The Eagles are surrendering their first round and fourth round pick, but where they pick in that round depends on how they finish. If they have the worst record in the NFL this season, they pick #1 in the first round and #1 in the fourth round. If they win the Super Bowl, they pick 32nd in the first round and 32nd in the fourth round.

[HeroWorld]

Clearer, thanks. 

[mojoween]

If they win the Super Bowl, they pick 32nd in the first round and 32nd in the fourth round.

Ha ha ha hahahahahaha.

[stealinghome]

The Vikings are nuts, straight up. Sam Bradford is not the answer, and CERTAINLY is not worth what they gave up for him. They'd have been better off playing this season, sucking (or at least doing worse than they would've with Bridgewater), and keeping the higher draft picks to build a better team around Bridgewater next year.

I hope Philly doesn't destroy Wentz.

[Fukui San]

Sam Bradford gets an opportunity to match Trent Richardson's mark of being a first round draft bust for two franchises.

[voiceover]

Here's to the end of preseason!!  I can exhale at last.  

Freakin' stupid waste of time.  And you damn kids, get off my lawn

[BitterApple]

Seriously, that Minnesota GM needs to be tarred and feathered. Trading away picks for a QB who's got spaghetti bones was a horrible move. I don't understand what they expect to get out of Bradford. Wasn't his QB rating one of the worst in the NFL?

[DrSpaceman73]

Bradford may have been the best of what is available, but yes way too much to give up for him. 

 

And Dak Prescott will be starting in Dallas, not Sanchez.  Jerry Jones is not THAT stupid.  Not quite. 

[Popples]

3 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

Bradford may have been the best of what is available, but yes way too much to give up for him. 

When I heard the Vikings had traded for a quarterback I was more shocked it wasn't Kaepernick than anything. I figured with all the controversy surrounding him, the 49ers would try to unload him.

3 hours ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

And Dak Prescott will be starting in Dallas, not Sanchez.  Jerry Jones is not THAT stupid.  Not quite.

Snort

[merylinkid]

Kap's protest is spreading.   A soccer player knelt during the anthem today.   I take back everything I said about him sitting on his ass accomplishing nothing.

[ElDosEquis]

On ‎9‎/‎4‎/‎2016 at 1:35 AM, voiceover said:

Here's to the end of preseason!!  I can exhale at last.  

Freakin' stupid waste of time.  And you damn kids, get off my lawn

I bought one of those 'fireman's nozzles' for my hose, now I don't have to stand so close.

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So, what are we all going to do, end up sitting down for the SBB?

A protest does get your point across and the narrative makes the news.

Now what?

A million dollars and backpacks for the kids?

I had to laugh at the idiot (who has now passed into history and their name forgotten) who refused to stand for the NA, He stated that the United States and the Flag stood for some kind of tyranny and repression.

He forgot that he was paid with in good ol' currency from the US of A?

When  CK does he show up in a Chairman Mao tee and panties with Hello Kitty on them?

[Ohwell]

15 minutes ago, ElDosEquis said:

So, what are we all going to do, end up sitting down for the SBB?

A protest does get your point across and the narrative makes the news.

Now what?

A million dollars and backpacks for the kids?

I do get your point, and I'm wondering the same thing?  I know he donated $1 million to charity, but what does he do next besides blowing his hair up into a 'fro and taking a knee/not standing for the national anthem?  I'm not just trying to be snarky; I'm seriously wondering.  Guess we'll see.

Edited September 5, 2016 by Ohwell
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[ElDosEquis]

1 minute ago, Ohwell said:

I do get your point, and I'm wondering the same thing?  I know he donated $1 million to charity, but what does he do next besides blowing his hair up into a 'fro and taking a knee/not standing fir the national anthem?  I'm just trying to be snarky; I'm seriously wondering.  Guess we'll see.

When I lived in El Lay, most of the sports teams did quite a bit of 'community outreach' - they'd host clinics, trips and give tickets out so kids could actually GO to a sporting event.  If you followed the team, you saw these guys actually go out and rub elbows with the public.

I lived in a 'hood and the older kids - the ones who really needed the guidance - would laugh and clown on a pro athlete making a statement like KP's  because they see him with an afro,  giant gold chain on his neck, driving an Escalade and say, "this fool don't know nothing that goes on here".

And basically they are correct. Some guy kneeling/sitting during the NA just gets people to talk about it and by week 3 we will all be worrying about Dallas, getting ready for Brady to comeback and what Roger Goodell is doing.

He has every right to protest in anyway he sees fit, but giving money, backpack and wearing a tee shirt with some dead revolutionary on it really does nothing, except increase the sale of that tee and his jersey.

----

I love the skilletheads who wear any jersey to a game, The joke went, "As if the coach was going to turn towards the stands and yell into the stands, if they needed a sub, "YOU! You in the number 70 jersey, get down here, we need you!!!!

[xaxat]

Civil disobedience (which isn't really what Kaepernick is doing because he's not breaking the law.) isn't necessarily about providing answers. In many cases it's just people who refuse to participate in a system they feel is unjust. Ali didn't have a plan to end the Viet Nam war, he just believed that joining the military was against his religious beliefs.

Besides, I don' think Kap owes us anything. The burden of change must fall on the elected officials and police chiefs of places like Baltimore

Investigation of the Baltimore City Police Department (Department of Justice)

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BPD disproportionately stops African-American pedestrians. Citywide, BPD stopped African-American residents three times as often as white residents after controlling for the population of the area in which the stops occurred. In each of BPD’s nine police districts, African Americans accounted for a greater share of BPD’s stops than the population living in the district. And BPD is far more likely to subject individual African Americans to multiple stops in short periods of time. In the five and a half years of data we examined, African Americans accounted for 95 percent of the 410 individuals BPD stopped at least 10 times. One African American man in his mid-fifties was stopped 30 times in less than 4 years. Despite these repeated intrusions, none of the 30 stops resulted in a citation or criminal charge.

Or Ferguson MO.

Investigation of the Ferguson Police Department (Department of Justice)

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This culture within FPD influences officer activities in all areas of policing, beyond just ticketing. Officers expect and demand compliance even when they lack legal authority. They are inclined to interpret the exercise of free-speech rights as unlawful disobedience, innocent movements as physical threats, indications of mental or physical illness as belligerence. Police supervisors and leadership do too little to ensure that officers act in accordance with law and policy, and rarely respond meaningfully to civilian complaints of officer misconduct. 

They're the ones who need to provide answers, because that's how accountability works in a democracy.

[ElDosEquis]

1 hour ago, xaxat said:

Civil disobedience (which isn't really what Kaepernick is doing because he's not breaking the law.) isn't necessarily about providing answers. In many cases it's just people who refuse to participate in a system they feel is unjust. Ali didn't have a plan to end the Viet Nam war, he just believed that joining the military was against his religious beliefs.

Besides, I don' think Kap owes us anything. The burden of change must fall on the elected officials and police chiefs of places like Baltimore

Investigation of the Baltimore City Police Department (Department of Justice)

Or Ferguson MO.

Investigation of the Ferguson Police Department (Department of Justice)

They're the ones who need to provide answers, because that's how accountability works in a democracy.

Uh-huh and no burden gets placed on the public at large?

ever notice that many of the police killings involve some chase or physical altercation with the police?

I am married to a former sergeant in the military and metro PD and I would not want her having to deal with a bunch of chuckleheads out on the street.

When people begin to have more respect for themselves and their 'hoods, they'd stop protesting and burning down the financial districts they depend on things will change. Change really does start at the bottom.

You can vote anyone into office - don't mean they deserve to be there.

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There ARE 'rules' regarding flag etiquette - many people don't know that. I have been to hundreds of games and event and have seen all kinds of idiots that cannot be bothered to take off their hats or stand still for a second.

I was at a baseball game last week and during the NA two nitwits kept walking, hats on....They looked like the kind of guys that bitch about how the government isn't doing enough for them yet, they can't be bothered to stop for a few seconds and stop sucking on a beer?

Yep, I get it.

 

Go raiders,.

Edited September 5, 2016 by ElDosEquis

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, xaxat said:

Civil disobedience (which isn't really what Kaepernick is doing because he's not breaking the law.) isn't necessarily about providing answers. In many cases it's just people who refuse to participate in a system they feel is unjust.

I've been really surprised how much vehemence Kap is getting and how everyone has to have an opinion on what he really should be doing or how he's not doing it "the right way." Are we going to see all this "outrage" the next time a player has a domestic violence charge/dui/gun charge? No, we're not. It really paints a clear picture to me why this is the way it is. 

I've never understood why, *at sporting events* we play the anthem. Everyone plays/sings it wrong anyway. 

1 hour ago, xaxat said:

Besides, I don' think Kap owes us anything.

I know. Like he's expected to have this huge 15 point agenda to solve everything. 

[mojoween]

It amuses me that they played the NA before tonight's men's session at The US Open.  A match played between a Scot and a Bulgarian.

Incidentally, right behind the flagbearers a man and woman were standing and talking the entire time while their hands were on the railing in front of them.  And *gasp* no one cared.

Go Kap go.  Kneel all season, I got your back.

[merylinkid]

1 hour ago, ElDosEquis said:

ever notice that many of the police killings involve some chase or physical altercation with the police?

Actually they don't.   The police reports say they do, but once the video is released a whole different story is told.   Freddie Gray in Baltimore died in the back of the police van.   No chase, no altercation.   That guy in North Carolina was shot in the back while running away.   No threat at all.   The cop lied -- and got his partner to lie -- that he was running towards them.   

[Moose135]

1 hour ago, ElDosEquis said:

There ARE 'rules' regarding flag etiquette - many people don't know that.

Yes, there are - including one that gets broken all the time at major sporting events: The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.

So every time they carry a huge flag out onto the field and hold it horizontally, they are doing it wrong.  Is that better or worse than not standing during the anthem?

[windsprints]

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 Are we going to see all this "outrage" the next time a player has a domestic violence charge/dui/gun charge? No, we're not.

I think there's been plenty of "outrage" over those issues and there will continue to be. The policies of the NFL regarding DV came under scrutiny and changed with the outrage from the Rice case.  

Kaepernick can sit, stand, kneel, lay on the ground or whatever he chooses.  IMO his protest hasn't brought any real conversation. All the attention has been about Kaepernick.  The media write about Kaepernick's right to sit, the public's reaction to Kaepernick, the socks Kaepernick wears and other players have been asked what they think about Kaepernick.  People on the internet (from my very limited reading around) are mainly discussing Kaepernick sitting or standing and flag etiquette. 

My guess is that once the season gets going and Kaepernick is sitting (not for the anthem) the attention on him will fade significantly and focus will return to the game.

Edited September 6, 2016 by windsprints

[ganesh]

I'm consuming different media then, and I don't think there's a definitive conclusion on what's going on with this. I think that kind of underscores my point though.

Edited September 6, 2016 by ganesh

[FuriousStyles]

2 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Actually they don't.   The police reports say they do, but once the video is released a whole different story is told.   Freddie Gray in Baltimore died in the back of the police van.   No chase, no altercation.   That guy in North Carolina was shot in the back while running away.   No threat at all.   The cop lied -- and got his partner to lie -- that he was running towards them.   

 

Just for the sake of accuracy....that case was in South Carolina.  And to add to your list, the guy in Minnesota who was shot and killed, while sitting in his car (seat belt still buckled), and his girlfriend recorded the last part of the police encounter on facebook. According to her (and from what I know, nothing she said was refuted or disproved by the PD) all that man was doing was reaching for his registration and whatever information in order to comply with the officer's commands.

One of the reasons why these encounters with police become so sensationalized IS because most DON'T involve a chase or physical altercation.   And you know what? Even if they did, that STILL wouldn't give these trigger happy cops the right to shoot.  Deadly force is supposed to be used ONLY when that cop's life or someone else's life is in imminent danger. It's not to be used to subdue someone or stop them from running away (a la the South Carolina cop).  What bothers me most about that particular case is that there didn't need to be a good Samaritan to record the whole thing to prove the cop was lying about what happened.  If somebody...anybody in that department gave a shit, they would have known that cop was lying based on the forensics!  It was obvious the man was shot in his back from a fair distance away.  How could the man still be reaching for the cop's weapon and thus making the cop "fear for his life"?  Makes me wonder how many more incidents have been swept under the rug under the guise of a cop "fearing for his life."

Colin Kaepernick did more for the cause in a few days than most of his colleagues have done all year.  He at least started a conversation (which went off on a ridiculous tangent about how to honor an inanimate object) but whatever...once several media outlets, people on social media, etc. cant stop talking about you, AND the POTUS comments on what you're doing then its really up to the rest of us to keep the fires burning on the topic.  

Kaepernick can't control what the media chooses to focus on, or what people want to twist his actions into.  All he can do is, do what's best for his conscious (stand, sit, kneel) and use his voice to at least try keep the conversation on track.  I think if/when other players start kneeling or whatever they do, it's going to keep the story alive, if only in the background.

Edited September 6, 2016 by FuriousStyles

[MarkHB]

Folks, please remember, this is the NFL thread.  While some discussion of Colin Kaepernick's protest is reasonable, the general rule of Previously.TV is that we don't discuss current events and politics here, so please refrain from getting into the history that has led up to this.  Thank you.