S10.E05: Game Changer

[Bluedog100]

Sorry to add one more post to a topic that has already been covered extensively, but when my best friend's stepfather died in a car accident, I remember my best friend pounding on her thighs and screaming "I'm so angry! I'm so angry" over and over and over again.  When my father committed suicide by shooting himself in the head (found by my poor mother), and less than two years later I watched my beautiful sister die a horrific death as a result of complications of emergency but relatively minor surgery, my reaction in both deaths was crying and repeating "I'm so sorry, (place respective name here)!!"  To this day, six years later, I will find myself breaking down at the weirdest times (a stop light, no less) and repeating the same thing.  When my friend's mother died unexpectedly this past fall, his reaction was a very calm "it was for the best."  People react very differently when a loved one dies and everyone has the right to grieve in the way they see fit....no questions asked.

 

I do agree that Jeana's "You have to be strong" was NOT what Vicki needed to hear at that time, though.  You find out your beloved mother just passed and what you need is to be held and have "I love you, I'm so sorry" repeated over and over in your ear.  I have no doubt she meant well, however.

 

Megan may have been the victim of a loss of words, but again, the best thing to say to a grieving person is "I am so sorry",  Even at 15, I knew this. (MUCH older than 15 now.)  NOT "you got this."  It sounded like she was giving a pep talk to a high school basketball player who was about to try to score for the winning point.

 

By the way, was Tamara mute and immobilized during all of this?

 

I equate the death of a parent much like having a child.  You never know the significance of it until it happens to you.  Like others, my condolences to all on this board who have lost loved ones.

[Should Be Working]

In my line of work, I deal daily with the 25-35 demographic, and I can totally relate to what Shannon was saying.  

I have often found myself walking away from a conversation saying "Who the F does she think she's talking to?  She's only 30 years old"....so, Shannon's comments regarding Megan's age did not bother me at all.  

 

I think it really is a matter of personality and manners.  Megan is a bitch, plain and simple.  She is a mean "pretty" girl - the girl in high school that everyone wanted to be friends with, because they were afraid of her, not because they really wanted to be her friend.  

 

I think that unless Megan learns some personal humility and manners, she may wind up being a very lonely woman in her mature years, because eventually, by the time you are in your 50's, most people are just tired of that shit, won't deal with it anymore, and will separate from it.  

 

Beautifully put and right on target. While the media (social and broadcast) is focused on the effect of bullying on its victims, we seldom hear anything about what happens to the bullies when their power over others has dissipated and then evaporated with the passage of time and life's cruel vicissitudes (i.e., aging and plain old karma). Your post conjured up the image of a 50 year old Meghan sitting alone in her studio apartment somewhere cheap, trying to figure out why and how it all went wrong, so fast. Sure, that unexpected quickie divorce from Jimbo was tough, but later, when her good friends stopped coming by or returning her calls. And the guys quit giving her the eye (other than to occasionally ogle at her giraffe neck, that is).

[Almost 3000]

I am sorry. I understand. Someone said to me recently "Yeah but hasn't it been a while?" UGGGH

 

On a lighter note is too soon to giggle just a little about Vicki's butt at the Spa? Luvya Vicks! Signature.

 

Sorry if this is a duplicate thought I typed this once. hmm

They really did strip her bare in more ways then one.

[MatildaMoody]

I mean, WTF, Vicks?  What about all those zillions of separate vacays you took during your marriage to Donn?  Hun, that ALWAYS made me give you a stinkeye about the shitty state of your marriage.  First the comments about Meghan's financial situation as a SAHM & now this?  Oh Vicks, go back to pouring on the grief-stricken routine & "nursing" Brooks & work that for the rest of the season.

 

I didn't know that Meghan was a stay at home mom. Wasn't her step daughter 17 at the time of filming? Four months married to the father of a 17 year old does not a Stay at Home Mom make, IMO.

 

Plus, didn't Meghan say she had some major medical sales job before she married Jimmy? If she weren't such an asshole, I would give Meghan a big ole "AWESOME!" for giving up the money and independence to follow her "soulmate." But, she can't even seem to realize that her "soulmate" wants nothing to do with her. 

 

Tamra was right when she said that Meghan was her "mini-me"

[ScoobieDoobs]

Yup. I was raised to be respectful to my elders too.  But Meghan is disrespectful, thoughtless & mean to people in general, no matter what their age.  Her manners are absolutely atrocious.  Short story on Jimmy-poo & Meghan.  He's an asshole who married himself another asshole. 

 

My guess is they'll be in that rental and he'll file for divorce before they ever move into a house.

 

For the time being, nope, that's not the case.  Lookee here-

 

http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-meghan-king-jim-edmonds-house-20150707-story.html

[sasha206]

I didn't know that Meghan was a stay at home mom. Wasn't her step daughter 17 at the time of filming? Four months married to the father of a 17 year old does not a Stay at Home Mom make, IMO.

 

Plus, didn't Meghan say she had some major medical sales job before she married Jimmy? If she weren't such an asshole, I would give Meghan a big ole "AWESOME!" for giving up the money and independence to follow her "soulmate." But, she can't even seem to realize that her "soulmate" wants nothing to do with her. 

 

Tamra was right when she said that Meghan was her "mini-me"

 

I think her real goal in life was to land a wealthy husband and one who preferably had cache in her home town, like an athlete.  When I was single, I and many other girls used to pull that shit.  We'd pile into the after game bar looking for that athlete and playing the "I don't date athletes" game even though were were all groupies.  Guarantee you she did the same thing.

 

Her goal in life is to be a socialite who is so wealthy she just plans charities so that (as she said) people will say, "Isn't she a sweetheart?"  She loves playing the "we're both equals with finances and I also own the house, wink/wink."  

 

And out of all the housewives husbands, signficant others, I've never seen one so checked out as is her husband Jim.  Hell, I think Brooks the Grifter has more genuined feelings for Vicky than this guy has for his wife.

Yup. I was raised to be respectful to my elders too.  But Meghan is disrespectful, thoughtless & mean to people in general, no matter what their age.  Her manners are absolutely atrocious.  Short story on Jimmy-poo & Meghan.  He's an asshole who married himself another asshole. 

 

 

For the time being, nope, that's not the case.  Lookee here-

 

http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-meghan-king-jim-edmonds-house-20150707-story.html

 

Ah well, maybe the gay rumors heated up again. :)

[ScoobieDoobs]

Ah well, maybe the gay rumors heated up again. :)

 

Never heard of that, but look at this-

 

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/rhoc-meghan-edmonds-secret-divorce-brad-mcdill/

 

Seems like Meghan has a past she's very interested to keep buried.  Hmmmm.  Does she think she can keep secrets -- like Gretchie-poo once thought?  No, Satan Andy definitely does NOT allow that.

[lunastartron]

This Radar article's "bombshell" tone made no sense whatsoever. Meghan has mentioned that's she was married prior to her union with Jim in her talking heads. Can't recall specifically when - maybe during the furniture shopping trip? - but she has definitely openly discussed it on the show.

[WireWrap]

Never heard of that, but look at this-

 

http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/rhoc-meghan-edmonds-secret-divorce-brad-mcdill/

 

Seems like Meghan has a past she's very interested to keep buried.  Hmmmm.  Does she think she can keep secrets -- like Gretchie-poo once thought?  No, Satan Andy definitely does NOT allow that.

Not to defend Meghan but she said on the show/on camera, that this was her "second marriage". IMO, she is/was not hiding that. This is just another stupid headline/story from ROL like the one they did pointing out that Kim R "was drinking again", like it was some secret that none of us viewers knew/saw/realized! LOL

[lunastartron]

I don't really understand the logic behind the premise that one should be respectful to/solicitous of an individual simply because they're old enough to be one's parent. By the same token, should Shannon and Vicki be treating Meghan with kid gloves just because she's young enough to be their daughter? Vicki, in particular, has a history of going out of her way to be rude, obnoxious, bigoted, etc. I can't imagine treating her in any way analogous to my own mother if, for example, I had to listen to her telling someone "you don't look gay" or blithely and unapologetically using the term "chinky chinky Chinaman." Shannon is, of course, nowhere near as crass or immature as that but when she's literally mimicking the behavior of the 30-year-old she's dissing, I don't think she inherently commands maternal respect just because she's lived twice as long. But that's just my subjective opinion.

[happykitteh]

 I finally caught up on the current season I had DVR'd this weekend and watched this live last night. Wow - the scene with Vicki was brutal. I'm not even a Vicki fan and my heart broke for her. I cried like a baby during that scene. It was very difficult for me to watch. Then I couldn't sleep thinking about the day when I get that dreaded call. I know Vicki was saying a lot of "What about ME?",  "Whose going to worry about ME" type stuff but I think the reality is most people WOULD have those thoughts run through their mind. Vicki just has no filter and said aloud what most of us would think to ourselves. It's a primal instinct to want your mom and no matter what age you are when she's gone you feel like an abandoned child, an orphan. When a friend of mine who's an only child lost her mom less than a year after her dad died she said exactly that - "I feel like an orphan. I have nobody now."

 

I mean the woman was 83, did Vicky have no idea that her mother was at that age when you start to think your parents might just die?

 

IMO, no one is ever ready to lose a parent, not ready to admit their parent is "at that age" no matter how old the parent is or how old you are. To most people their parents seem younger than they really are, they seem like they won't ever die. The exception of course is when a elderly parent is ill with cancer, heart disease, etc., and you know it's coming. For Vicki her mom seemed healthy and she had just spoked to her that morning, hence the huge shock.

[Almost 3000]

Way to keep it real, Heather, calling a wart a growth.

I did okay with the Vicky scene since I had seen it being previewed a few dozen times already.

I thought it was weird that Terry did what looked like a punch that they could biopsy as opposed to just freezing it if it was a wart. Maybe it wasn't a wart.

[sasha206]

I thought it was weird that Terry did what looked like a punch that they could biopsy as opposed to just freezing it if it was a wart. Maybe it wasn't a wart.

 

I just think she enjoyed visiting his work so she can imagine the grande expanse of their wealth beause he works so much.  I think she was turned on by it.

Edited July 10, 2015 by sasha206

[HunterHunted]

Oh, I'm not saying a 30 year old and someone in their 50s-60s have equivalent wisdom or life experience. Not at all. I'm sure when I'm 60, if some whippersnapper half my age tries to school me it'll piss me off too ;)

I'm just saying that being 30 is not an excuse for being an asshole. By 30 (hopefully), you know what's rude and what's not. These ladies keep tossing Megan's age around as a way to explain why she's being such a dick. I'm convinced she's just a dick.

My problem with Shannon using Meghan's age as a pejorative is that it's nonsense. Shannon acted like no 30 year old could ever teach her anything. In fact, Meghan is able to speak with authority about being married to that asshole Jim Edmonds, being a medical software salesperson, and craftily decorating wine glasses. I'm being facetious, but I'm in my mid 30s. I have friends from 25 - 70. I have things to teach them about my areas of expertise and they have things to teach me about their knowledge bases. The problem isn't that Meghan is 30; it's that she's rude, immature, and will continue to be so in 20 years. I have a coworker who's a lot like Meghan and she's a lot closer to Shannon's age than Meghan's. The expectation is that people get wiser as they get older, but everyone forgets that not everyone starts on the same wise/perceptive baseline. Vicki is probably a lot wiser than she was 30 years ago, but her baseline was probably fairly narcissistic and oblivious.

[HumblePi]

I don't like Meghan King Edwards AT ALL. She's skinny, scrawny, spoiled and reminds me of one of the Mean Girls in the 2004 movie. She has no personality, she's not funny, she's has nothing warm and fuzzy except her eyebrows which she has a habit of raising for inflection. She's a zero in my opinion. They could have done much better even with Faye Resnick.

 

[njmama]

Way to keep it real, Heather, calling a wart a growth.

I did okay with the Vicky scene since I had seen it being previewed a few dozen times already.

OMG

[Juneau Gal]

 

On Vicky's mom, I feel bad for feeling so jaded, but I got the impression that Vicki's screams were so everyone would come running to her and wonder what was wrong.

Up until a month ago I would have agreed with you, but then I suffered a loss and wailed and cried like a banshee. I surprised myself with my reaction. Grief can make you behave in ways you would never believe you would.

And I gotta say, alone in a room after immediately receiving such news, and knowing there are people within earshot, I might have wailed a bit louder to get someone to respond and help me.

[The Evil One]

I've only just gotten around to watching. First, I will say that for newlyweds of a few months, Jimmy already seems over Meghan - at least while she's talking. I really wanted to like her, and even though Shannon is batshit crazy, she comes off as very immature. Granted, I would bet serious coin that David's affair was with a younger, 30ish blonde, which fuels Shannon's hate fire.

As for Vicki, aside from the weird landline business (did they have her opt for that with the intention of airing the other side of the conversation and then change their minds? I didn't think bravo had boundaries...). Whatever the deal, that was heartbreaking. That noise she made is known, at least in Irish/Scottish cultures (and maybe more) as keening. It was devastating to watch. And as someone who lives far away from the parental units (their retirement decision), it's incredibly hard when there is a simple health scare and you have a 5 hour flight, not a 15 minute drive to check on them. And to be so far away from that - the helplessness.

I felt terrible for her, and the tears were also part of knowing that whether you have been through it already or dread of knowing it will happen to you -- no matter when it happens, it's always far too soon.

[Raven1707]

Most likely Heather had a cyst removed. Not that uncommon, really.

[biakbiak]

This will probably be the last time we see bunco on tv.

[Christi]

How did she die? Heart Attack?

I cant seem to find anything about what actually happened :(

[Juneau Gal]

Vicki in her Blavo blog says the coroner believed her mother either had a heart attack or an aneurism. They opted to not have an autopsy to discern the cause of death.

[swankie]

When our dad died unexpectedly, my brother called to tell me and 1 of the first things is said/asked him was "how he was". As shocked and saddened as I was, I also was concerned about my mother/siblings, after the call I then called our 2 other siblings to check on them, then I lost it and cried to/with my husband/son. So I did find Vicki's lack of concern about her brother, who actually found their mother dead, odd. JMO

 

I also noticed Vicki's brother saying "I loved her." Plain and simple, not much ragging on how his life was over, and then he got off the phone quick.

 

 

 

I don't begrudge anyone's grieving process because it isn't the same as mine.  Everyone's reactions are going to be different.  I'm not going to assume Vicki didn 't ask her brother how he was because that phone call was edited just like everything else on this show.  And I'm not going to assume Vicki's brother didn't react exactly like she did because the cameras weren't there when he found their mother.  He could have rolled up in the fetal position sucking his thumb for all we know.   I just refuse to fault Vicki for her reaction because she was more than likely in shock, especially since she had just spoken to her mother that morning and she was perfectly fine.  JMO

Edited July 8, 2015 by swankie

[swankie]

 

I don't think it was a wart that Heather had removed, because there are over the counter medications that will get rid of warts and leave no scar.  She would never opt for a painful and deep punch-out just for a wart, nor would Terry present that as an option.

 

It sounds like Heather had a ganglion cyst.  I had one removed from the base of my thumb once.

 

Meghan's long neck reminds me of the Loch Ness Monster.  Damn!  https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5e/Hoaxed_photo_of_the_Loch_Ness_monster.jpg

Edited July 8, 2015 by swankie

[imjagain]

I bet Vicki will never be able to think of Bunco without remembering getting that phone call.

For me, Whiplash will always be the movie during which I got a devastating phone call.

Omg, for me it is Under the Tuscan Sun. That was the movie  we were watching when I got the call about my mother. I still haven't watched again.

[swankie]

I don't really understand the logic behind the premise that one should be respectful to/solicitous of an individual simply because they're old enough to be one's parent. By the same token, should Shannon and Vicki be treating Meghan with kid gloves just because she's young enough to be their daughter? Vicki, in particular, has a history of going out of her way to be rude, obnoxious, bigoted, etc. I can't imagine treating her in any way analogous to my own mother if, for example, I had to listen to her telling someone "you don't look gay" or blithely and unapologetically using the term "chinky chinky Chinaman." Shannon is, of course, nowhere near as crass or immature as that but when she's literally mimicking the behavior of the 30-year-old she's dissing, I don't think she inherently commands maternal respect just because she's lived twice as long. But that's just my subjective opinion.

 

I think it all depends on how you were raised.  "Respect your elders" is a well known adage because it was preached very adamantly in a lot of households back in the day.  It was ingrained in me at a very early age and to this day I still live by it. 

[Snarky McSnarky]

That was really tearjerking. However, I have to wonder if parts were a recreation. In addition to the points above (the establishment of the landline, etc), why did everyone insist that Vicki's support system come to her rather than offer to escort Vicki home? I would have imagined that the first thing one would do to be telephone a car service in order to ferry Vicki back to a familiar, comfortable environment. The tableaux in Shannon's foyer also appeared very blocked; Meghan only entered very briefly, Jeana was nowhere to be found, leaving Vicki with her three fellow veterans. I don't think this is the nadir of this franchise but the potential that this was simulated is rather discomfiting.

I think it was partially, if not entirely recreated.  Why would the others decide to interrupt their games for a group photo, and not try to include Vicki and Shannon (their hostess)?  Perhaps so there would be a quiet moment when they could hear crying from another room.  There also weren't many tears to go along with all of the wailing and dramatics.  Whatever the truth is, it went on FAR too long.

 

I'm surprised Tamra's gym still open? Have we seen it this season? She is back trying to sell houses, I guess she has to make money.

 

Tamra hasn't maintained her real estate license as she stated.  She let it lapse a couple of years ago and just renewed it late last year.  It doesn't really matter, because she has been involved in zero transactions since she first obtained it.  She pretended to show Heather a vacant lot on one episode, and that is about as close as she's come to being in the real estate business.

[Snarky McSnarky]

It sounds like Heather had a ganglion cyst.  I had one removed from the base of my thumb once.

 

 

Whatever it was, I'm happy to hear that she will still be able to jerk off Terry.  I'm sure their children won't be teased about that revelation some time in the future.  Don't they realize these shows are going to be viewed by people for years to come?

[CrinkleCutCat]

Late to watch this and have only watched the first 15 min, but have to blurt this out: Heather and Terry's oldest daughter looks like a mini Terry wearing a wig! (When they were leaving the hairdressing salon where they get better cuts than salons just for kids according to Madame Dubrow!).

Back to the show and more important issues I'm sure...

[CrinkleCutCat]

Whatever it was, I'm happy to hear that she will still be able to jerk off Terry. I'm sure their children won't be teased about that revelation some time in the future. Don't they realize these shows are going to be viewed by people for years to come?

I know... To hear him say "let's whack that off so I make sure you can....whack me off". Their poor children. Their parents!!!

Yeah, you're a star now Terry. And Heather, sure you're an actor and he's a star! I don't buy it...Heather wants to be a ***STAR*** too!

Despite my critiques of Heather (she gives me too much to snark on) I do have a soft spot for Ms Pretentious.

Edited July 8, 2015 by CrinkleCutCat

[CrinkleCutCat]

Oh...now I have seen Vicki hearing about her mother's death. I feel bad for commenting on such frivolous moments now.

We are never old enough to lose our mothers. I was only 27 when my mum died at 48. That was heartbreaking to watch Vicki hear the news of her mother's passing. Heartbreaking. RIP Joanna.

Edit: I've now read comments about Vicki's comments about herself and who will now worry about her etc. I too thought that seemed to be all about Vicki, but to be fair, I thought that too after my mum died. Maybe I didn't say it out loud but I sure thought/still think that now. No one loves you or cares for you the same way your mother does (if you are lucky enough to get a good one). I'm not going to judge Vicki negatively on this ...she just blurts it all out.

Edited July 8, 2015 by CrinkleCutCat

[Duke2801]

I think it all depends on how you were raised.  "Respect your elders" is a well known adage because it was preached very adamantly in a lot of households back in the day.  It was ingrained in me at a very early age and to this day I still live by it. 

 

I was raised to respect my elders.  In a major way.  Like, there was punishment if I ever dared talked back to or raised my voice towards any adult.  And I always did just that.  Until my first job out of college when these 2 old BITCHES in the office made my life a. living. hell.  I mean, these women were grandmothers!  And they were SO incredible nasty to me that I was crying in the bathroom almost on a daily basis. 

 

 So ya know what I learned at a very young adult?  Biological age don’t mean shit.   Once you are an adult (which I consider 18+)respect is earned, not assumed because somebody happened to be born 2…3…4 decades before me.

 

So, while she certainly has her faults, I refuse to give Megan any grief about not "respecting" Shannon or Vicki simply because they happen to be older than her. 

[IKnowRight]

You're so right, 30 is not that young. But Meghan doesn't act her chronological age. She comes across as a self-centered, conniving, and entitled teenager, never a smart or emotionally/intellectually mature 30 year old. Not once. But she'll always be that way, regardless of her age.

 

As for jealously of her youth being the cause of any friction with the older HWs, that may be with a few of them. But mostly, I suspect, it's because she's a spoiled and trouble making intern. We do know that she has that older shit stirrer Tamra's considerable admiration; that says a lot right there.

 

Plus there's the fact that so many posters on this forum find Meghan's very presence on the screen annoying and tiresome. And it has nothing to do with her being 30.

THIS.

It's not so much that "she's 30!" It's the way she acts like she knows it all, like Tamra said in her talking head. They say, "okay, little miss 30 year old" but I think that's there way of saying what ShouldBeWorking just posted. You hit the nail on the head.

Meghan went in for the kill way too quickly. Gretchen didn't put up with being pushed around but she didn't pounce like Meghan out of the gate.

Shannon doesn't have to prove anything to Little Miss 30 year old! It really is off putting to have a young woman join in with a group of long married women, with kids almost her age (Vicki, Tamra, Jeana) and act like she's this all knowing step mom, SAHM, who has had to move so often when in reality, she's a brand new wife #3, step mom for 10 minutes, had professional movers and an assistant, and tries to act like she's on equal footing. That takes balls. If, however, she came in softer, wasn't bragging every 5 minutes, and trying to shame you over a rude phone call, perhaps she would have been welcomed? Maybe not by Vicki but by Shannon.

I'm not sure why people always go with the assumption it's jealousy. They live in Orange County! Everyone is perfect and young looking, and if not, they get replacement parts from Dr. Dubrow. Katie came in sweet. She's young and very pretty. The difference is, Meghan's an entitled bitch on wheels and Katie's sweet.

[Bebecat]

Megan is an idiot, but not because she is younger. She just is.

But none of these women have earned respect, from anyone, Imo. Age should not come into it on either end but we know that Vicki especially despises younger women. If they are in a relationship, with money involved, she hates them that much more. Maybe not jealousy, but envy for sure. She can't stand it when anyone seems to be happy in a relationship (not saying Jim and Megan are a good example lol). And loves to be around women when their relationships are failing (Shannon, Tamra back in the day, etc.).

I am a cynical witch, as I doubt very much that Vicki's scenes re: Mom's death were not at least in part for the cameras. She needs the spotlight desperately and found a way not easily topped.

[Lucelu]

I wonder if that strategy will work at my next job.... I'll just start ripping into one of the women there over something totally stupid and never let up. Even after she apologises... I'll just turn my nose up at it and dig in.  For some reason I don't believe this strategy is contained in Dale Carnegie's How To Win Friends and Influence People... a book that I believe is required reading for every sales representative.

[FozzyBear]

I think my thing with the whole "Miss 30 year old" is that it makes Shannon sound as stupid, petty, immature, and entitled as Megan. She has this attitude about anyone ever questioning her behavior and with Megan she's trying to pull this stupid respect your elders BS like Megan is a teenage babysitter trying to tell her how to raise her kids or something. Like it or not Megan is another adult in her world so get over it. And I just don't think anyone in this group has any right to lecture anyone on manners. These are adult women who job it is to act like aging sorority sisters. They're all dumb-asses. And Megan does have a small, stupid point about returning the text. The phone call? Fine. You were driving, you wanted to get off the phone. Whatever. But the text? What reason did Shannon have to ignore Megan at that point? She had an out of state number? She called Shannon on Shannon's phone? She used her maiden name? Like just return the text. Megan is being an unbearable bitch now, but at the time? Shannon had no reason to be mad at Megan yet still managed to work herself into a snit. *sigh* Shannon is just too much work for me.

[njbchlover]

I know... To hear him say "let's whack that off so I make sure you can....whack me off". Their poor children. Their parents!!!

Yeah, you're a star now Terry. And Heather, sure you're an actor and he's a star! I don't buy it...Heather wants to be a ***STAR*** too!

Despite my critiques of Heather (she gives me too much to snark on) I do have a soft spot for Ms Pretentious.

 

I loved that comment by Heather when she was talking about her agent/manager.  "I want to be an ACTOR".....

 

Well, yeah, Heather--that's worked out real well for you - movie producers/directors are sending you sooooo many scripts that you have to build a huge mansion to hold them all while you ponder which "acting" role to take on next!!  

 

Given the right opportunities and huge amount of talent, all great actors eventually become stars, don't they (NOT reality "stars")?   

 

Keep holding onto that lofty thought, Heather, if it gives you an excuse as to why you haven't really had a decent role in anything since your family drama-com show with Paul Sorvino and Ellen Burstyn, who, by the way, are ACTUALLY ACTORS!!!!

Edited July 8, 2015 by njbchlover

[sandyskyblue]

I noticed how Meghan couldn't resist getting in a few on-air slams against Jimbo ("after all, it's not that he does anything around here.") at the start of the episode. The elf princess is obviously just as resentful and unimpressed with him as he is with her. No thought given to the fact that he might be watching that TH a few months down the line, or perhaps she doesn't give a shit if he sees it. What a lovely couple.

The 'Elf Princess'?? That is genius, Should Be Working!!!

[Snarky McSnarky]

Keep holding onto that lofty thought, Heather, if it gives you an excuse as to why you haven't really had a decent role in anything since your family drama-com show with Paul Sorvino and Ellen Burstyn, who, by the way, are ACTUALLY ACTORS!!!!

Three names that should never be mentioned in the same sentence are Paul Sorvino, Ellen Burstyn, and Heather Dubrow :-)

[MatildaMoody]

I think my thing with the whole "Miss 30 year old" is that it makes Shannon sound as stupid, petty, immature, and entitled as Megan. She has this attitude about anyone ever questioning her behavior and with Megan she's trying to pull this stupid respect your elders BS like Megan is a teenage babysitter trying to tell her how to raise her kids or something. Like it or not Megan is another adult in her world so get over it. And I just don't think anyone in this group has any right to lecture anyone on manners. These are adult women who job it is to act like aging sorority sisters. They're all dumb-asses. And Megan does have a small, stupid point about returning the text. The phone call? Fine. You were driving, you wanted to get off the phone. Whatever. But the text? What reason did Shannon have to ignore Megan at that point? She had an out of state number? She called Shannon on Shannon's phone? She used her maiden name? Like just return the text. Megan is being an unbearable bitch now, but at the time? Shannon had no reason to be mad at Megan yet still managed to work herself into a snit. *sigh* Shannon is just too much work for me.

 

I actually kind of agree with Shannon there. Why should she return a text to someone that she barely knows? Sure, it would be polite, but in the real world, if someone you haven't actually met (I am not counting that split second at the hoedown) sends you a text after a rambling phone call, why would you expected to reply? And maybe I am just a bitch, but I don't feel that any explanation of why it wasn't returned is even necessary. That's the beauty of a text message, you aren't required to reply to them if you don't want to be bothered. Same deal with phone calls. If Shannon had let the call go to voicemail, I can't see any problem with her simply not returning the call even after hearing the message. That's the prerogative of having a private cell phone. You don't have to answer or return calls or texts unless you want to. 

 

Now, I could see Shannon being angry that someone gave out her personal number. She is on a reality show and the last thing you want is your private contact info available without your permission. But, I do think she should have let it go once she saw that Meghan was using this as a "thing" to stir up drama for the show. Shannon's issue seems to be that she is too willing to engage in this type of nonsense when she has so much bigger shit to deal with on her plate.

[njbchlover]

Three names that should never be mentioned in the same sentence are Paul Sorvino, Ellen Burstyn, and Heather Dubrow :-)

Ahh...but at the time, she was Heather Paige Kent!!   LOL

[Bebecat]

Other than the kids...I do NOT understand why/how David stays with Shannon. And that is just not a good enough reason, Imo. He could easily get a house nearby and be with them as much as he ever is. Regardless of any feelings about his skeeviness...no one should have to live under the kind of ridiculous living conditions as it is now, with Shannon never going to be able to forgive him, much less forget even for one second.

I think she wants to keep as punishment, almost. Also, for her ego, as in not allowing anyone to think he left her. But, gah, what a miserable way to live.

I just filed for divorce today, so...I might not be neutral lol

[sandyskyblue]

I'm on page 4 of reading all these comments, I posted earlier about having lost my parents over 10 years ago and my husband 2 years ago....grief and I fairly good friends by now....I just feel the need to say that however Vicki reacted, whether or not this was re-enacted, whether or not this should have been filmed and shown to the public, how Briana, Billy, Brooks, and the show handled this sad situation is all water under the bridge...bottom line: Vicks lost her mom...grief is such a complicated process involving so many emotions and it really never ends, you just learn to deal with it...and everyone deals with it in their own unique way and does what works best for them....as for people not knowing to say when someone they know has lost someone, I have always felt that a simple 'I'm so sorry' generally works best, (as opposed to 'hang in there' which sounds dismissive to me) sometimes the less said, the better....

[BlackMamba]

Oh I hate to cut in anything

But the ratings are in

RHOC got a 1.997/0.90

This sho has little to no promotion and got those numbers. But RHONY... yep.

http://www.tv-recaps-reviews.com/2015/07/monday-cable-ratings-july-6.html?m=1

[Should Be Working]

Oh I hate to cut in anything

But the ratings are in

RHOC got a 1.997/0.90

This sho has little to no promotion and got those numbers. But RHONY... yep.

http://www.tv-recaps-reviews.com/2015/07/monday-cable-ratings-july-6.html?m=1

 

Yeah, and look what came in 1st to 8th place ahead of it. Pure quality televison.

[RedheadZombie]

I loved that comment by Heather when she was talking about her agent/manager.  "I want to be an ACTOR".....

 

Well, yeah, Heather--that's worked out real well for you - movie producers/directors are sending you sooooo many scripts that you have to build a huge mansion to hold them all while you ponder which "acting" role to take on next!!  

 

Given the right opportunities and huge amount of talent, all great actors eventually become stars, don't they (NOT reality "stars")?   

 

Keep holding onto that lofty thought, Heather, if it gives you an excuse as to why you haven't really had a decent role in anything since your family drama-com show with Paul Sorvino and Ellen Burstyn, who, by the way, are ACTUALLY ACTORS!!!!

 

Oh my God!  I loved that show and I loved her character.  I did not know that was Heather!  Well, she was good enough back then, she was my favorite on the show.  I am shocked.

[RedheadZombie]

Yeah, and look what came in 1st to 8th place ahead of it. Pure quality televison.

 

Hey!  Shark Week is an event!  We wait for it all year!

[Ubiquitous]

Okay, thank you, because this actually makes a lot of sense. I can see David doing that, in case the woman might tell Shannon first and then Shannon would be all, "How come you didn't tell me you talked to ____???"

Yeah's what I thought was going on.

 

I don't think it was a wart that Heather had removed, because there are over the counter medications that will get rid of warts and leave no scar.  She would never opt for a painful and deep punch-out just for a wart, nor would Terry present that as an option.

A chance to be on another TV show? I wouldn't put it past Heather and Terry to remove a wart on his show instead of using Compound W.

[Eater of Worlds]

Yeah, and while not a wart I doubt it was a ganglion cyst.  Those can't be removed by a punch.  You have to go in and remove the cyst whole if you can so that you don't have cyst contents spewed everywhere.  You also need to remove the root of the cyst otherwise it just returns.  A punch is an odd way to enter the body to remove a cyst like a ganglion cyst.  It creates a hole to heal up when you don't need it.

[Should Be Working]

Yeah, and while not a wart I doubt it was a ganglion cyst.  Those can't be removed by a punch.  You have to go in and remove the cyst whole if you can so that you don't have cyst contents spewed everywhere.  You also need to remove the root of the cyst otherwise it just returns.  A punch is an odd way to enter the body to remove a cyst like a ganglion cyst.  It creates a hole to heal up when you don't need it.

 

As others have already noted, Dr. Terry put the removed growth in a plastic bag, perhaps for a path test. Either that or he's planning on having it mounted on a gold medallion so he can give it back to Heather on her birthday to wear on special occasions.