S05.E06: The F Bomb

[uoflfan]

Cate: Tyler is NEVER going to marry you unless MTV pays him to do it.

Amber: You let an addict you met on twitter move in. Dear God.

Maci: You are now pregnant with your 2nd illegitimate child by a 2nd man so STFU.

Farrah: Please, just go back to porn and get off my TV.

[JoannKB]

Although, I'm confused....don't they generally do that glucose test around 28 weeks? It's been almost 5 years since I've been pregnant, but I don't recall it being so late into the pregnancy

 

That was really weird, because it was the same scene, so it doesn't seem like editing monkeys. She said she was just diagnosed with gestational diabetes, and then she said she was 37 weeks - in the same conversation! 37 weeks is way too late to be diagnosing GD; there's very little you can do about it at that point. Normally you are diagnosed around 24-28 weeks, earlier if they suspect you are likely to have it.  

[purplemonkey]

I do NOT like this show-within-a-show. If I wanted to see production crew, I would watch "the making of teen mom". I wanted to watch "Teen Mom".

Also, I just realized I'm slightly offended by the tag line "OG" because they are now women and not "girls".

[poeticlicensed]

How do you meet someone on Twitter? Seriously, how does that work? Explain please.. 

[ghoulina]

I don't like how in last weeks episode, Amber (Ambie?)

 

If I have to hear "Ambie" one more time, I'm going to shove a red-hot skewer in my ear. 

 

I don't know which is worse, making the girlses (tm Leah) friends come around to ask questions they probably already know the answers to, or these overly friendly producers and crew members. 

[zenme]

It's a scary world when the most sage words of the night came from both Amber and her beau.  I thought she made a good point when comparing her issues to those of Farrah.  Of course, Larry brought the message home when he said they had "all made a series of bad choices."  (Exit Ryan.)

 

I thought Amber's boyfriend, whatever his name is, handled the situation with Gary very maturely--as well he should.  It looked like they were having a wonderful little father/son chat.  His choice of clothing is another story.

 

I thought it was inappropriate for Farrah to be discussing her latest dick of the week with Sophia around, but I was pleasantly surprised when she admonished Sophia for not using the word, "hate." 

Edited April 28, 2015 by zenme

[Persnickety1]

Holy idiocy....

 

That shit about Farrah's mom getting catfished is all over the internet.

 

How the fresh hell did I miss this?

 

Scammed out of $250,000.  No wonder Farrah told her to get her shit together and she could visit.  I'm not sure I'd want this bag of crazy living with me, either, mother or not.  

 

And, in true reality TV fauxlebrity fashion, Debra wrote a book about it.

 

Must be some susceptibility gene in the blood line....I seem to recall Farrah getting totally scammed purchasing a car (and I'm pretty sure production sat there laughing their asses off when she fell for it on camera but at least she was a teenager unlike her gullible mother).

 

http://starcasm.net/archives/295331

 

 

Earlier this year former Teen Mom star Farrah Abraham’s mom Debra Danielsen announced that she would be publishing a book chronicling her experience being scammed out of more than $250,000 by a man she met (but never actually met) via an online dating site. More details about the book, titled Vapor, have since been released, including that it will be published by Ellora’s Cave, the same company that published Farrah’s erotic fiction trilogy, and it will be released on November 21, 2014.

Edited April 28, 2015 by Persnickety1

[CaliforniaLove]

 

And her met her on Twitter by making some comment about how she should have more fans. If that doesn't seem creepy and intentional....I don't know what....

Yes...this 40 something year old met her on Twitter by comparing her number of fans to JENELLE EVANS. I know I'm not exactly in this show's demographic, but really?

 

There literally wasn't one scene where Amber wasn't sitting on the couch.

[zenme]

Sorry but I love Farrah going rabid dog on Maci.

 

I'm so excited to watch this "exchange" next week! IMO, Maci comes off as a know-it-all, "can do no wrong" sort, and always has, and like a fellow poster said, now we know why she's been getting the good edit. 

[Persnickety1]

Yes...this 40 something year old met her on Twitter by comparing her number of fans to JENELLE EVANS. I know I'm not exactly in this show's demographic, but really?

 

There literally wasn't one scene where Amber wasn't sitting on the couch.

 

And Amber said they talked on the phone for 7-1/2 hours that night.

 

Probably whilst laying on her couch with her blankie as usual.

 

So apparently she must have messaged him on Twitter to give him her phone number, too.

 

I'm kind of wondering how he managed to visit with the production crew there.  Hell, even "Ambie's" (short for Ambien?) production person looked absolutely mystified as to how this could have happened.

 

I'm thinking there's an outstanding possibility the dude had not visited at all during filming and, upset about Gary and Kristina's revelation about the pregnancy, Amber just impulsively invited this dude to come and move in with her.  You know, one of those destined-for-disaster "I'll show you!" strategies.

 

That being said, I thought it was really rotten behavior on Gary's part to withdraw Leah's overnight visit because he didn't like the way Amber talked to him on the phone.  He had even asked Leah if she wanted to go visit mommy.  But, because he clearly enjoys his position of power with the custody issue, it looks like he'll be abusing that power to his own advantage.  

 

Off topic, but I'd love to see Gary subjected to a random blood sugar and blood pressure check on camera.  Dude looks more like a heart attack waiting to happen every episode.

[ivgotspirit02]

I don't know which is worse, making the girlses (tm Leah) friends come around to ask questions they probably already know the answers to, or these overly friendly producers and crew members. 

 

I found it especially weird with the scene with Ryan and his buddy where they actually filmed production prompting the friend to ask him if he had talked to Maci lately (or something along those lines). The jig is up guys, the fourth wall is broken, if you want to hear about Ryan's last conversation with Maci why don't they just ask him instead of pushing friends to do so? 

 

There literally wasn't one scene where Amber wasn't sitting on the couch.

 

Oh come on now, I'm pretty sure she was on her bed in at least ONE of the scenes ;-) 

[UmmHello]

I don't post here a lot but I read this forum regularly. I have a few thoughts:

It seems Amber and New Guy already had talked about him moving in because his pictures of all of his interviews were already on the wall when the producers first got back after their 2 week break.

I want to give the guy the benefit of doubt because I like seeing Amber happy and I hope he is not a creep.. But it is weird that a 40 year old man was comparing the Twitter followers of Amber and Jenelle. I know it's easy to see but just weird that a man of that age would care??

Also what we saw of his talk with Gary did not seem threatening or intense but I enjoyed Gary looking intimidated maybe it was just because the guy is so much older.

Edited April 28, 2015 by UmmHello

[JellyFishQueen]

I worried about Farrah parents in there old age, 70's, and 80's. When they need real medical care and support from there families. All I can picture Farrah going, "WHAT ABOUT SUPPORTING ME!"

 

 

I lol when Ryan said Farrah has no morals and in the same breath basically cat called some strangers. Ugh...

 

Why does amber bf have to be from new england!? NOOOO! We got Jenelle mother! no more!

Edited April 28, 2015 by JellyFishQueen

[GreatKazu]

 

Can someone give me a confirmed answer on how much  money these chicks actually get paid for doing this show?

I posted this information before on the previous thread.

 

Amber was forced to give the courts (during her bond hearing) the amount of money she earns from MTV. At that time, it was $280,000 a year. The participants receive one check for full payment. They are contract workers. They don't have taxes removed from their checks. They have to pay the taxes at tax time which has caused all of these girls to have tax problems with the exception of Chelsea. Here is one site that mentions the court and Amber having to reveal her income: http://www.aoltv.com/2010/12/30/teen-mom-amber-portwoods-real-mtv-salary-280-000/

 

One thing I love about the fourth wall being wide open, is we get to see how the cast and their friends are prodded to discuss topics. The scene with Ryan and his friend for example. There was the producer asking the friend to ask Ryan about Maci.  Hearing Ryan object to the topic of discussion made for an interesting scene. It made me wonder how many times this has happened on other reality shows. It also makes me wonder if this is why we don't see Ryan as much because he is not wanting to discuss Maci when the producers want to. Ryan was discussing breaking up with Shelby. I thought it would have been nice to hear his version of what went down with that relationship, but instead, we get the producer prodding the friend to bring up Maci. Ryan going off about Farrah was laughable especially when he mentioned morals. I was kinda stunned that he agreed with Maci on her stance, although I am wondering why that is.

[StatisticalOutlier]

Catelynn and Tyler making that sign...did they really throw themselves a shower??????

 

I didn't see the whole show.  I'm hoping maybe one of their guests gave them an apostrophe.

[Brooklynista]

I don't post here a lot but I read this forum regularly. I have a few thoughts:

It seems Amber and New Guy already had talked about him moving in because his pictures of all of his interviews were already on the wall when the producers first got back after their 2 week break.

I want to give the guy the benefit of doubt because I like seeing Amber happy and I hope he is not a creep.. But it is weird that a 40 year old man was comparing the Twitter followers of Amber and Jenelle. I know it's easy to see but just weird that a man of that age would care??

Also what we saw of his talk with Gary did not seem threatening or intense but I enjoyed Gary looking intimidated maybe it was just because the guy is so much older.

 

 

See, that right there weirded me out.  Why did she turn her living room into a shrine for him?  His pics were plastered all over the damn wall.  UGH!  Did she have that many pics of Lorna Doone?

[GreatKazu]

Oh Maci you are a self important ass. You don't want Farrah on the show because it negatively impacts on your "message". Thank goodness she enlightened us with her message, because I had no clue. Apparently her message is "being a teen mom is hard". Wow, that's right up there with "science is important" and "math is hard". I mean duh. And I'm still blown away by her lecturing teens about using protection whilst being knocked up herself. Bye girl. 

 

 

For real.

 

When Ryan is acting a fool and calling Maci every name in the book and treating her like she has the plague, where was her concern then about her son being part of this show? Her son is right there in the middle of all that fighting, cussing, arguing, and it is not just Ryan. Maci had her moments too where she said things in front of her son, and had boyfriends move in with her and play "daddy" to Bentley. Where was this righteous attitude then? Farrah is vile and vicious. There are lots of reasons for her not to be on this show, but her porn and stripper gigs shouldn't be a reason why she was booted off. The entire show should have just been done and over with. No more Teen Mom - 1 and 2.

 

I hope he is not a creep.. But it is weird that a 40 year old man was comparing the Twitter followers of Amber and Jenelle

Depending on how long he was an addict, chances are his emotional and mental age has been stunted. He may be in his 40s, but his mind appears to be at the level of a high school kid.

[DoctorWhovian]

Catelyn & Tyler: timeline issue here, I'm sure she was diagnosed with GD much earlier but there must not have been anything interesting during that time period to show.Hopefully she doesn't have longterm effects, but damn do they need to get their diet in order. She was covering those green beans in salt in one scene. I hate that talking about weight and diet and health is so controversial now. She doesn't need to be skinny or thin or fit or whatever, but you have a kid and you're going to pass your eating habits on to her.

 

Amber: dude gives me major pedo/creep vibes. Again, timeline issue I'm sure. But guy just doesn't come across well. It doesn't help that we've heard about some of the things happening off camera. But he has a major control thing going on and could really end up being disastrous. He's already talking to Gary one on one about things? That shouldn't be happening. The age difference, whatever it happens, but there's something off there.

 

Maci: I get it. I don't agree with it, but I get it's just how she feels about it. I mean maybe Bentley watches the show, and she's worried about the scenes with Farrah? She doesn't want to be associated with her post the sex stuff? I don't know, I'm not her, but whatever. She obviously comes around on it. Ryan was awesome about it. And I actually really like Ryan. He's not ready to be a dad, but he has to be, and I think he kinda acts out because of it. I know he's a little older but he's stunted. I think he's the type of guy that 30 is gonna turn around and grow up, and be a great dad. He's easily the best dad on this show, and only topped by Cory on TM2.

 

Farrah: I hate you and you are terrible. I feel bad for her parents, then I remember how this is really their fault for letting her grow up that way. Then I feel bad that Farrah is terrible to them. Farrah is a grade-A bitch and has nothing to back it up with. Every scene she had was so planned and plotted. Praying on camera? The call with the boyfriend? No sympathy for Farrah. Either Sophia is going to hightail it out of there, or she's going to be even worse than Farrah. Farrah is so far up her own ass that she'll never get how hated she is. She'll continue to get surgery and be on Z-list shows, saying the same shit and crying it up, collect her paycheck then do it again.

[ghoulina]

Oh come on now, I'm pretty sure she was on her bed in at least ONE of the scenes ;-)

 

And driving! But yea, it would be nice to see her completely vertical once in awhile. More taking Leah to the park, less laying around feeling sorry for yourself. 

 

I think he's the type of guy that 30 is gonna turn around and grow up, and be a great dad. He's easily the best dad on this show, and only topped by Cory on TM2.

 

Lets just hope Bentley isn't totally fed up with him at that point. 

 

I'd say Jo from TM2 is a much better dad than Ryan, along with Cory. All the rest are so low on the totem pole, saying one is better than another means little. 

[Samwil]

Too bad MTV didn't do a crossover show with Nev and Max with Debra as the star.  

 

That would have been gold.

[Brooklynista]

Too bad MTV didn't do a crossover show with Nev and Max with Debra as the star.  

 

That would have been gold.

 

 

There surely would have been a prayer circle before the car ride. 

[GreatKazu]

I forgot to add, Maci didn't have issue with Bentley being on a show at the same time Amber was beating Gary's ass. Domestic violence is a crime. Doing porn is not a crime. Being a host at a strip club is not a crime. Where was Maci's concern when Amber was going upside Gary's head multiple times? Where was Maci's concern when Amber was an addict on the show?

[JellyFishQueen]

So does anyone know what happen to Farrah baby daddy family? I feel sorry for them

[ghoulina]

I forgot to add, Maci didn't have issue with Bentley being on a show at the same time Amber was beating Gary's ass. Domestic violence is a crime. Doing porn is not a crime. Being a host at a strip club is not a crime. Where was Maci's concern when Amber was going upside Gary's head multiple times? Where was Maci's concern when Amber was an addict on the show?

 

And let's not forget all the crazy stuff we've seen from Butch and April over the years. 

 

I really do think Maci just hates the idea that MTV felt they NEEDED Farrah, and the other three weren't good enough on their own.

[Ffiferoo]

I think Maci probably also is less forgiving of Farrah just because they've had conflict between them in the past.  I don't follow any TM people on social media or in tabloids, just watch the shows, but it seems like she (now at least) has good relationships with Amber and Catelynn, so maybe she excuses their behavior more.

 

I want to defend Farrah because her body, career, and parenting choices are her own and she can do what she wants, but it's so hard when everything else about her personality is so aversive!  I don't feel bad for Sophia for having a mom who did porn, I feel bad for her for having a crazy family full of assholes.

[EDTV]

I just.. honestly can't buy that Maci's concern is for Bentley. Because Farrah will always be a part of the Teen Mom franchise. As someone posted before me, Maci will be always be associated with Teen Mom and always be associated with not only Farrah, but Amber, and Catelynn. 

 

 

Pretty much, her explanation made no sense. And none of the other mom's had a problem with it.

 

But remember Maci at one point thought she was getting her own show, and now even though she's pregnant again her story line wasn't enough so she's jealous and is trying to huff and puff and act like she's a great mom who is only trying to protect Bentley... riiiiiight...

 

But of course that didn't last long because we all know she wouldn't leave MTV.

Edited April 28, 2015 by EDTV

[CaliforniaLove]

I think another reason Maci doesn't want Farrah on the show, is quite frankly because Farrah is mean. I don't think Maci can really hold her own when it comes to confrontation & regardless of how messed up Amber has ever been, she has never told Maci to point blank "f off" (like Farrah pretty much has). I think that intimidates the hell out of her.

[Lpeach2]

Cate: Tyler is NEVER going to marry you unless MTV pays him to do it.

Amber: You let an addict you met on twitter move in. Dear God.

Maci: You are now pregnant with your 2nd illegitimate child by a 2nd man so STFU.

Farrah: Please, just go back to porn and get off my TV.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!! Haaaaahaaaa love love love!!!!!!!

[ava111]

And her met her on Twitter by making some comment about how she should have more fans. If that doesn't seem creepy and intentional....I don't know what....

I notice that a lot with him. Another thing I've noticed, is he loves to give her these passive aggressive reminders - like mentioning how she lost her Carly weight (mostly) by going on Weight Watchers. It's plain as day, to me, that Tyler is unhappy with her weight, but doesn't want to come across like an asshole.

Whaaat? Oh my gosh, this sentence just gave me life. Please tell me Nev got that shit, because I really really need to see!

(Yes, I fully realize the extent of my evil.)

I didn't know about how he contacted her, that is pretty f up. Next thing you know we will hear about him being her manager or publicist or some shit like that.

Also somebody mentioned he is DJ, not great job for drug addict, being in clubs with drugs and alcohol everywhere... she should stay away from him. Crying about not knowing if she can find someone who doesn't want her for her money and fame and then she goes ahead with what seems like exactly what she didn't want.

Edited April 28, 2015 by ava111

[GreatKazu]

As for Farrah, she is awful but she is right to try to place boundaries with her parents because she keeps trying to move away from them and they FOLLOW her wherever she goes.

So why then are they on this show with her? Maci's parents are not on the show anymore. How can she claim wanting boundaries when she cannot do this show without them? The girl has to have paid people to interact with her such as the neighbor and Paolo, the painting friend.

 

 

She tried to move to Florida a few years ago and first thing Debra and Michael are talking about moving to Florida suddenly.

She did move to Florida and she wanted her mother to help her with caring for Sophia while Farrah attended school.

 

 

Then she moves to Texas and Michael moves to Texas,

Yes, because Farrah wanted her dad to help her with Sophia.

 

 

now Debra wants to move to Texas and actually live with her. 

Debra wants to live there temporarily until she gets on her feet and find her own place.

 

 

They are like barnacles she can't scrape off her bow. They are toxic relationships to her (and she to them) and the last thing any of them should be doing is living together.

Agree. Farrah is just rude and so unhappy with her parents, unless they are babysitting for her.

 

 

They won't let her or her TV exposure and money go and she has tried and failed to shake them loose before. I hope she can this time.

But, it would mean then she has no storyline because apparently without her parents on the show, MTV would be forced to hire more people to pretend to want to interact with her. Farrah's personality and behavior is so rancid. She is downright rude to everyone unless they are making her feel good about herself, such as that neighbor woman. The friend, Paolo, barely uttered anything because it was all about Farrah.

 

Seriously, for all her talk, I don't see Farrah wanting her parents away from her. All of her actions have required her needing her parents. When she had her boob job, she needed Michael to tend to her and take care of Sophia. When she was negotiating her porn tape, who was right there by her side? Michael. When she appeared on Dr. Phil and other tv shows to promote her sex tape scandal, who was there with her? Who was with her on that VH1 show, Couples Therapy? Her mom! Nah, I am not getting this whole thing about Farrah's parents are crossing any boundaries. This is all a set-up by Farrah.  Farrah can bitch all she wants, but she wants her parents by her side, just not living with her, which I can understand.

Edited April 28, 2015 by GreatKazu

[Cosmocrush]

 

Amber's new guy seems like... a mature adult!?  (All they've had to do all along is find someone almost twenty years older!)  I'll reserve judgment for a few weeks just in case he ends up being an asshole, but he seems level-headed and able to help her deal with Gary's bullshit.  

I don't think he really left his apartment and all his furniture etc.  I think he was probably evicted.  I got nothing but creepster vibes off the entire situation.  Amber making bad choices isn't new but if she is really planning on filing for full custody (or at least physical custody) of Little Leah Leann  I would think moving some creepy old man fan into her home would not help her case.  I can see Gary fighting her - not necessarily because he wants custody but because he wants to live off the child support.  

 

Farrah is a product of whatever wackadoo weirdness in her family, she's got issues, and I still don't like her but damn, she has no friends? The neighbor and the paint by numbers lady? Seriously? I wish she had a better non family/MTV support system, although maybe she did at one time and they were sane and said "eff this..bitch cray cray."

I've  been watching these girls since their 16& Pregnant show and Farrah NEVER seemed to have any friends.  There was a 16& P scene where she told the rest of the cheerleading squad she was pregnant - no one was surprised which pissed her off,  and then we never saw them again.  Oh, I think one of her high school friends home from college came by one time and Farrah suggested that maybe she could come (with Sophia)  and visit the friend in her dorm room.  We never saw her again either.  Mostly she had her sister (who fought with Farrah - shocker!) and there was a 30 something hairdresser for a while.     All these years later, all this supposed therapy later, and Farrah seems to still seeking out people to pose as friends on camera so she can talk about her life.

 

And speaking of watching all the old episodes - wow, it's crazy to see the changes in all of these people.  And honestly, with a few of them, it's downright sad.  I mean I *want* to just watch this show as mindless entertainment, but watching these episodes one after another and seeing a clear path of how some of them spiral completely out of control can kind of be depressing.

It's the opposite for me, I don't see much change at all with the exception of their bank accounts. Maci still has a good support system, Catelynn is still with Tyler (and neither one doing much with their lives); Amber is still on the couch (not working, not in school), and Farrah is still a sweetheart, lol.  That was was jk - I think Farrah is still vile - maybe more so if that's possible. 

 

Also, can someone please tell me why we are now seeing the producers all the time? I don't care what they think and I don't know why we need their opinions etc.

We (the viewers) always knew many of these scenes were produced, that this was a show and not a documentary about Teen Moms so I kind of like the fact that production has decided to acknowledge it and not try and pretend the audience doesn't realize those things.  

 

How do you meet someone on Twitter? Seriously, how does that work? Explain please.. 

How Amber explained it was he tweeted a comment regarding the craziness of Jennelle (TM2) having more Twitter followers than Amber.  Amber saw it, contacted him directly and a few months later he's living in her house.  Sigh.  

Edited April 29, 2015 by Cosmocrush

[purplemonkey]

I know what OG means, but I suspect MTV wants it to stand for girls and not gangsters because it makes them look clever.

I thought Ryan's dad said "his head's as hard as his tail".

I was glad to see Catelynn's dad at the hospital. But the closeup of Carly's photo on the wall in C&T's house was creepy. It really hit me then. You cannot place a child and then have her picture on the wall, it can't be healthy. But I've never been through that, so I can't say for sure if it's the pictures they keep or just their immaturity.

[Lpeach2]

I agree w Ryan on pills. My ex hub was on them. Expensive. And he had that blank stare directly into the camera when talking about Farrah. And the make u more chatty.

[The Evil One]

Was I the only one who giggled like a 12 year old when Farrah said that she had "worked her ass off?" Indeed, Farrah, indeed. And while part of me agrees that Farrah shouldn't be financing face lifts and God knows what else for her parents, she has an incredibly short memory. Yes, her family is dysfunction junction, but at the same time, they certainly supported her when she needed it. She comes off a wee ungrateful, not to mention laughable with her "I pulled myself up by my bootstraps and became a success!" mentality. Bitch please, you used one platform of famewhoring to catapult yourself into another level of famewhoring (plus whoring).

Edited April 29, 2015 by The Evil One

[The Evil One]

And oy, Amby! The boyfriend seems like an upgrade from Gary at first blush, but fungus is an upgrade from Gary. The red flags are already out. A large part of me thinks that yes, Amber should/could probably date someone older. She's been through a lot and has a child, so someone more mature and equipped for that makes sense. Not sure that a dude 19 years her senior who is willing to uproot his entire life in a matter of weeks for a virtual stranger is that guy. He's a DJ with a presumably (bullshit) established career that leaves all of that for a reality train wreck he met on Twitter? Gold digger, Amby. Wake up and wise up.

[DoctorWhovian]

I'd say Jo from TM2 is a much better dad than Ryan, along with Cory. All the rest are so low on the totem pole, saying one is better than another means little. 

 

You are absolutely right, I completely forgot about Joe.

[FozzyBear]

I know a lot of viewers were mad at Caitlyn for going off her diet, but God that girl has no practical support system. All anybody in her life does is tell her what to do or yell at her when she doesn't do what they want. I don't see Tyler making an effort to cook healthy food that she also likes or spend any of his "googling stuff Caitlyn is doing wrong" time looking up resaurants that are better for her or exercise options that are easy in her condition like yoga. And why serve a boatload of carbs at her baby shower? It would suck to give the guest of honor a party where she can't eat half the food. I feel like the people in her life do this all the time. Everybody tells her what to do but nobody makes any real effort to help her.

[GreatKazu]

 

I don't see Tyler making an effort to cook healthy food that she also likes or spend any of his "googling stuff Caitlyn is doing wrong" time looking up resaurants that are better for her or exercise options that are easy in her condition like yoga. And why serve a boatload of carbs at her baby shower?

Good point. Tyler can eat all damn day and not gain an ounce. He eats junk food and still he remains thin. He likely doesn't want to eat healthy. He is making it Catelynn's problem without being a good support to her.

[FozzyBear]

Good point. Tyler can eat all damn day and not gain an ounce. He eats junk food and still he remains thin. He likely doesn't want to eat healthy. He is making it Catelynn's problem without being a good support to her.

And normaly I would say fine, none of his beeswax anyway. BUT she is carrying his child and struggling with her diet SO HELP HER. Don't just make her feel like shit. I'm guessing Caitlyn is a bit of an emotional/stress eater (Girl I feel you) so Tyler's mansplaining approach is probably making things worse. The Girl is like 13 months pregnant and probably exhausted so get off you ass, take over the grocery shopping and cooking, and learn to make her favorite stuff in a diabetic way. There are dozens of cookbooks that do just that. Hell, hire a chef for a few months if need be. Anything is better than shaming a stressed out pregnant woman while you Instagram pictures of Carly #BrandonandTeresaoweme.

[GreatKazu]

And normaly I would say fine, none of his beeswax anyway. BUT she is carrying his child and struggling with her diet SO HELP HER. Don't just make her feel like shit. I'm guessing Caitlyn is a bit of an emotional/stress eater (Girl I feel you) so Tyler's mansplaining approach is probably making things worse. The Girl is like 13 months pregnant and probably exhausted so get off you ass, take over the grocery shopping and cooking, and learn to make her favorite stuff in a diabetic way. There are dozens of cookbooks that do just that. Hell, hire a chef for a few months if need be. Anything is better than shaming a stressed out pregnant woman while you Instagram pictures of Carly #BrandonandTeresaoweme.

Right. It isn't as if he is at a 9-5 job anyways. The least he could do is take over the cooking and shopping for food. If he goes, he can be in control of the menu and not buy junk food. 

 

There they both were in the restaurant and there she was talking about eating healthy, but she then covers her healthy food with salt!

 

I get the feeling that eating out and fast food is their choice. For two people who have nothing going on in life, they can't even bother to sit together and plan healthy meals.

[Brooklynista]

And oy, Amby! The boyfriend seems like an upgrade from Gary at first blush, but fungus is an upgrade from Gary. The red flags are already out. A large part of me thinks that yes, Amber should/could probably date someone older. She's been through a lot and has a child, so someone more mature and equipped for that makes sense. Not sure that a dude 19 years her senior who is willing to uproot his entire life in a matter of weeks for a virtual stranger is that guy. He's a DJ with a presumably (bullshit) established career that leaves all of that for a reality train wreck he met on Twitter? Gold digger, Amby. Wake up and wise up.

Let's talk about this dude's "DJing". A DJ where? At a local radio station? Then how was he able to just "move" to be with Ambie? I'm sure he doesn't have a residency at a hotel in Vegas like Pauly D from Jersey Shore. He's not a celebrity DJ like that Samantha Ronson. So what kind of dj'ing is he doing?

League night at the Lobo? Weddings in the church basement? I was very unimpressed with his celebrity pics. Anybody doing random work in the radio station can get a pic.

That's how I know none of these folks are ready for a relationship. Nobody asks the important questions. Amber's first question should have been "Move in where?" Followed by "how are you going to kick in half the rent/mortgage?"

Edited April 29, 2015 by Brooklynista

[LexiconDevilOne]

Yes...this 40 something year old met her on Twitter by comparing her number of fans to JENELLE EVANS. I know I'm not exactly in this show's demographic, but really?

 

There literally wasn't one scene where Amber wasn't sitting on the couch.

She was driving her car during the whole corn/Hoosiers conversation.

[leighroda]

Never in my life did I think it would ever come down to me defending Farrah, perhaps I contracted malaria and my mind is going (maybe someone check on me tomorrow...and make sure I haven't completely lost it).

Farrah made a porn video, that is her choice, it's dumb that she tried to play it off, but irregardless (I'm aware that's not really a word... But I feel like in reference to Farrah it works because that's what she would say) it's what she did, nobody from the entire teen mom franchise is doing everything right, and that's okay, I would hate to be judged by what I did as a teen and my early twenties. I get they are gonna mess up, and I get that they are gonna get a crap ton of judgment for it because they chose to do a reality show. My issue is where they get off judging each other so harshly, Catelynn and Tyler make a crack about Farrah every chance they get, how exactly are they doing so much better? Or Maci threatening to walk away for Bently's sake, because she doesn't want him around her for the reunions or whatever, give Farrah a microscopic piece of credit that she control her porn star urges for the 3 minutes they bring the kids around.

*i was joking about malaria, but I really did just take a sleep aid so I'm not sure this is my most eloquent piece of work... Sorry*

[NikSac]

Also, I just realized I'm slightly offended by the tag line "OG" because they are now women and not "girls".

 

I'm so glad I'm not the only one annoyed by this. I guess "early 20s Moms" doesn't have quite the same ring to it, but I have to think they could've come up with something better.

If I have to hear "Ambie" one more time, I'm going to shove a red-hot skewer in my ear. 

 

I don't know which is worse, making the girlses (tm Leah) friends come around to ask questions they probably already know the answers to, or these overly friendly producers and crew members. 

 

Seriously... Ambie, Bew Bew, and Jel are about enough to make me FF through Amber's segments in future.

There literally wasn't one scene where Amber wasn't sitting on the couch.

 

Ah yes... one more reason to FF through Amber. I'd forgotten this one. I want to jump up and scream every time she seems irritated and yells "come in" rather than get her ass off the couch and answer the door. I try to remind myself it might be a production thing, but it really annoys me.

[Ffiferoo]

I don't think he really left his apartment and all his furniture etc.  I think he was probably evicted.  I got nothing but creepster vibes off the entire situation.  Amber making bad choices isn't new but if she is really planning on filing for full custody (or at least physical custody) of Little Leah Leann  I would think moving some creepy old man fan into her home would not help her case.  I can see Gary fighting her - not necessarily because he wants custody but because he wants to live off the child support.  

 

I think I may be biased and less skeptical about the circumstances just because I have some married friends with that age difference, and my brother is engaged to someone he met on Twitter, but personally I did not find him creepy.  It's true that it's weird for him to have moved in the way that he did, with Amber not even seeming clear that that was his intention, but I just didn't get a bad impression of him.  I'm sure he's not the most functional human, but none of them are and it seemed to me like someone who is simply too old to care about Gary and Amber's drama, and who can help put some of it into perspective for her could be a good influence.  Like I said though, I could be wrong and he could be awful.  

[PenelopeJones]

Still reading through, but Farrah has some ODD reactions to her parents. I don't want to play armchair shrink, but I have to wonder like other people are wondering, about abuse. When her parents talk to her, no matter how civil and polite the conversation is, she rolls her eyes or sighs or cringes. Her mannerisms and gestures and tone of voice are like she can't STAND them, yet she admits to her weird neighbor that she loves her parents. And she let her father live with her and she gave her mom money for a facelift. It's all bizarre. I know she's been through some stuff in her life. She doesn't seem like someone who feels loved. Like, she can't believe that someone could love her, and as much as she says she loves Soohia, she seems cold. It's a little unsettling to watch.

[LexiconDevilOne]

YES.  I'm currently binge-watching all of the previous seasons that I dvr'd when they had the marathon a few weeks back. .   

I tried that with Teen Mom 2...I had to stop.

 

I found myself actually hating each of the girls. Yelling at my Kindle. And, wanting to drive to West Virginia so I could punch Leah out.

 

 

 

You're a braver one than I.

 

 

 

When it comes to Farrah's ENTIRE storyline...I don't buy a single word, or deed, of what she's trying to sell.

 

I don't think she has anywhere near the money she wants us to believe she has. I don't believe she's in any relationship, much less with this guy. I think she only see Sophia when the cameras are around (just like Janelle). And, I think her parents are in on the act.

 

I do believe she's as big of bitch as she portrays though. I do not believe that's calculated one iota.

Edited April 29, 2015 by LexiconDevilOne

[rho]

This show has become excruciatingly boring, not that it was ever compelling television. A whole episode of the producers just asking the other girls how they feel about Farrah? But it was all worth it to hear Ryan talking about Farrah's "furjainuh"

[poopchute]

I know a lot of viewers were mad at Caitlyn for going off her diet, but God that girl has no practical support system. All anybody in her life does is tell her what to do or yell at her when she doesn't do what they want. I don't see Tyler making an effort to cook healthy food that she also likes or spend any of his "googling stuff Caitlyn is doing wrong" time looking up resaurants that are better for her or exercise options that are easy in her condition like yoga. And why serve a boatload of carbs at her baby shower? It would suck to give the guest of honor a party where she can't eat half the food. I feel like the people in her life do this all the time. Everybody tells her what to do but nobody makes any real effort to help her.

Well it looks like she threw her own baby shower which is insane and tacky as fuck so I would guess she chose the menu too.

[alexa]

After seeing the aftershow, I am kind of annoyed with Catelynn acting like she was the voice of reason in regard to everyone getting along.  I noticed neither Catelynn or Amber actually spoke to Farrah or showed any real kindness, yet Catelynn was acting all superior about the situation when the host was asking Maci how she felt.    

 

I understand not a lot of people like Maci here, and I can understand that.  In this situation I can see how she feels because it is clear from the upcoming clip they show that Farrah is going to be Farrah and start yelling accusations.  I can see why Maci feels there is nothing she can say to improve the situation because she is never going to like or respect Farrah.  

 

And to be fair, she had arranged to do the show without Farrah, and it was the producers that chose to air everyone's reactions.  So, it wasn't like Maci could keep her reaction behind closed doors, therefore Farrah was going to know quite clearly that Maci did not want her on the show.  And then to have all four girls sit together in the aftershow -- of course nothing is going to improve because it is very awkward.