S10.E13: Birthing Classes and Teamwork

[bigskygirl]

 

With Jill and Jessa married and out the house, Joy-Anna is in charge of assigning their chores to her younger siblings. Derrick and Jill attend their first birthing class.

 

[xls]

Just who's dog was that? One of the crew's? Never seen it before. 

FU internets, the kids love animals!

Poor josie is stuck hauling laundry around now. What does Michelle do? Couldn't even read the list, Joy had to do it. Oh, thats right Michelle is the schoolmarm.

[Literata]

My husband excitedly exclaimed that Jill was wearing pants. He wasn't aware that the skirt-over-pants thing doesn't count. :(

[Jenniferbug]

That episode was full of FU Interwebz moments.

Look! Michelle does teach her own children and take responsibility for their education!

Look! We have a dog who we love and regularly care for! We are loving and responsible pet owners!

So...what jurisdiction does Joy have? Does she just supervise everyone else? Also I would have thought that Jed and Jer would have aged out of jurisdictions and into helping with the properties and land.

[hershey4]

Why did Jill's voice sound so different...deep instead of little giggly girlie...in the shot they inserted from the hospital room?

[GEML]

Could be from dryness, hoarseness from labor, she could have been using oxygen, could just be exhaustion....

[Literata]

Wait. MEchelle says in a TH that she went into labor with Josie at 25 weeks because she was having gallbladder pain. I recall that she was, but wasn't preeclampsia the larger issue?

[TheDoctorsCompanio]

Anna teaching Michael how to use a sewing machine?!? But that's women's work.

I love that she is so hands on with all of her kids.

[VioletNevermind]

* Bubba the Dog's first appearance on the show was weird.  We're really supposed to believe that the Duggars, who have given away/neglected more pets than they have now, are responsible, dedicated pet owners?  Alrighty!  Hang in there, Bubba.

 

* Good God, Jill was wearing pants.  Sure, she was wearing a skirt over them, but still.

 

* I may be in the minority, but I think those husband-coached natural birthing classes are such a load of crap.  12 weeks (!) to learn how to rub your wife's arm and say, "It's okay, honey" and "Every contraction gets us closer"?  Maybe it's just me.  *shrug*

 

* Hey, Anna, maybe Michael is too young to sit on your lap with free access to the sewing machine needle?  She wasn't holding his hands back at all.  Just a thought.

 

* The "jurisdiction reboot."  I loved the scene with Joy Anna confidently ticking off the reworked list with Michelle standing off to the side, nodding wisely with that dumbass vacant stare on her face.  Also, I have to say, Josie did quite a good job gathering the laundry.  I'm all for kids having chores and responsibilities, but I wish more attention was paid to these kids' educations and a little less paid to manual labor around the house when they have an able-bodied mother waltzing around like a lady of leisure.  I truly don't understand what that woman does all day.  She sure as hell doesn't oversee things.  That's 25-year-old CinderJana's job.

Edited April 8, 2015 by SuzyLee

[Temperance]

Joy seems to have taken on Jessa's role. the boss.

 

Wait til Kynzie is altering dress for MaryJo's wedding. Or will Michael be altering suits for Marcus's wedding?

 

Josie can do chores!

 

All the labor scenes! 

 

The Duggars must watch a lot of their own show. Else why would they constantly need to give advice to their family who live with/near them? Or is that really for us heathens.

 

JB on advice for new parents: "One keep your marriage strong. Two enjoy this time now when they're little, they grow up so fast." Yeah next thing you know Israel will be pushing a laundry cart around. 

Edited April 8, 2015 by Temperance

[woodscommaelle]

I'm thinking if you have a dumpster on your property, you may have too many people in your family. 

 

And fuck you Michelle.  God I fucking cant stand her.

 

JimBob, you don't 'water' a dog, you 'give the dog water to drink.'  It's not a fucking plant!

 

I had second-hand embarrassment for all of the people who had their tweets scroll across the screen.  Then I remembered:  I'm WATCHING THIS STUPID SHOW!  I'm just as lame as they are :(

[EarlGreyTea]

For one crazy second I thought they were taking the dog to the hospital to see Jill and the baby. Makes no sense but I'm tired. Can't you just imagine them trying it?

 

Joy, Jana, and Jinger looked exceptionally gorgeous this episode. How stifling it must be to do chores all day and hang with their little siblings. I bet they're looking their best 24/7 in hopes of finding someone to court so they can get outta dodge.

Edited April 8, 2015 by EarlGreyTea

[cmr2014]

How many FU Internet moments could they cram into the first 2 minutes of the show:

 

1. J'chelle is actually teaching the SOTDRT!

2. J'chelle does something with her kids!

3. They talked about their pets, and did something with their dog (although it looked like the dog had no idea who those people were)

[xls]

I'm thinking if you have a dumpster on your property, you may have too many people in your family. 

 

And fuck you Michelle.  God I fucking cant stand her.

 

JimBob, you don't 'water' a dog, you 'give the dog water to drink.'  It's not a fucking plant!

 

I had second-hand embarrassment for all of the people who had their tweets scroll across the screen.  Then I remembered:  I'm WATCHING THIS STUPID SHOW!  I'm just as lame as they are :(

Didn't one of the howlers-James or Jackson, I think-say in the TH that he'd like to have a pet someday?  Let that slip.

[shannon612]

Hey Michelle Im sure Bubba would love it if you shut up.

 

Just me or do those birthing classes seem like they would be so awkward with Derek? Also, a skirt over pants? Really? What would posses you to do such a thing

Edited April 8, 2015 by shannon612

[EarlGreyTea]

Hey Michelle Im sure Bubba would love it if you shut up.

 

Just me or do those birthing classes seem like they would be so awkward with Derek? Also, a skirt over pants? Really? What would posses you to do such a thing

They seemed a bit brother and sister in the early scenes, but in the last ones where he's holding her up and whispering, I saw a glint of sexual chemistry between them for the first time. I'd never seen it before.

[Sew Sumi]

There was also an orange cat sighting. I wonder if it was THE cat? 

 

Agreed that this was one giant FU INTERNETZZZZ!!!!!! episode. 

[Mrsjumbo]

I had to LOL at the fake "MEchelle overseeing homework" scene.

Even my 14 yr old DS asked me what MEchelle does.

My cat (that the Duggars brought to the shelter) begged to differ that they are good pet parents.

[Lillybee]

Bubba is one odd looking doggie. He looks like a cross between maybe a lab and a basset or corgi. He has a large body and short legs.

[woodscommaelle]

What a god-awful boring effing gift for Jessa and Ben: a curtain. I know it's the thought that counts but that shitty mobile Anna and Josh gave to Jill and Derick was equally lame.

Edited April 8, 2015 by woodscommaelle

[Spencer Hastings]

Anna handled that needle situation with Michael's little hands better than I would have. I wouldn't have had him on my lap to begin with but I also would have let more than a gasp slip out of my mouth.

Still can't get over how much more advanced Anna's kids are verbally. Kynzie and Michael make the youngest Duggars sound so far behind.

[Celia Rubenstein]

So was that a pair of Jim Bob's dirty black socks poor little Josie was picking up off the floor from beside his and Michelle's (unmade) bed? Seriously?  Seriously???

 

I don't think there is anything wrong with giving even small kids reasonable chores, but why the hell should ANYONE have to pick up Jim Bob's smelly dirty socks from the floor after he kicked them off before diving into the bed for some *sweet fellowship* with Michelle? 

 

Were Michelle's discarded panties on the floor on the other side of the bed?  Gag.  

 

In one of the other bedrooms, the little ones were smelling what appeared to be more undergarments to see if they were clean or dirty.  They pronounced whatever it was they had "stinky" and dropped it in the laundry cart.  Really, those little girls have to wheel around a buggy sniffing socks and underpants that have been randomly discarded to determine what to collect for washing?  

 

It's called a damn HAMPER people.  Or a laundry basket.  Or a lousy cardboard box.  Hell, designate a corner for piling up dirty clothes if that is the best you can do.  Because if the youngest child in the house is old enough to be the one to push around a laundry cart collecting dirty clothes, then everyone else in that damn house is old enough to place dirty clothes in a receptacle designated for that purpose.  Especially Jim Bob!

[andromeda331]

I was very nervous watching those kids with scissors and that close to needles. Things like that make me very nervous.

I love Michelle attempting to teach the kids and stopping because it was time to take the never seen before dog for a bath. She really will do anything to get out of actually doing her job.

[BitterApple]

I thought all those dogs on the front porch were neighbors dogs that wandered onto the property? Isn't that what we were told on a previous episode? I've never seen animals in the house and there was no doghouse or igloo on site so what does this poor creature do for shelter?

The birthing class was creepy. It was like watching a pregnancy porn orgy or something. I still don't see any chemistry between Jill and Derick. They look like a couple who got pregnant off a one night stand and are forcing themselves to make a relationship work. I find them to be very unnatural with one another.

[truelovekiss]

The birthing class was creepy. It was like watching a pregnancy porn orgy or something. I still don't see any chemistry between Jill and Derick. They look like a couple who got pregnant off a one night stand and are forcing themselves to make a relationship work. I find them to be very unnatural with one another.

They are essentially the plot of Knocked Up with less weed and more sidehugs. A couple that barely knows each other stuck together because they're having a kid together, that spends way too much time with the woman's family.

[BitterApple]

Lulz, truelovekiss! So true! I can't believe I didn't catch the Knocked Up similarities! I wonder if that's why Jill has her buddy team around so much. They provide a nice distraction to the fact that Jill and Derick probably can't think of two things to say to each other when they're alone.

[Dianaofthehunt]

I tuned into this show during a Red Wings game commercial. They were at a dog-care place, washing a dog. One of the staff there was a woman wearing pants, as you would expect in such a job. Were the kiddies warned about this sight beforehand? Do you think they mentally wrote her off as unsaved? The stench of this show, even in tiny doses, fascinates me.
I also saw a shot of the front of their house. Oh, it's a hideous barn! 

As you might guess, I'm not a regular viewer of this horror series. 

[Mrsjumbo]

So was that a pair of Jim Bob's dirty black socks poor little Josie was picking up off the floor from beside his and Michelle's (unmade) bed? Seriously? Seriously???

I don't think there is anything wrong with giving even small kids reasonable chores, but why the hell should ANYONE have to pick up Jim Bob's smelly dirty socks from the floor after he kicked them off before diving into the bed for some *sweet fellowship* with Michelle?

Were Michelle's discarded panties on the floor on the other side of the bed? Gag.

In one of the other bedrooms, the little ones were smelling what appeared to be more undergarments to see if they were clean or dirty. They pronounced whatever it was they had "stinky" and dropped it in the laundry cart. Really, those little girls have to wheel around a buggy sniffing socks and underpants that have been randomly discarded to determine what to collect for washing?

It's called a damn HAMPER people. Or a laundry basket. Or a lousy cardboard box. Hell, designate a corner for piling up dirty clothes if that is the best you can do. Because if the youngest child in the house is old enough to be the one to push around a laundry cart collecting dirty clothes, then everyone else in that damn house is old enough to place dirty clothes in a receptacle designated for that purpose. Especially Jim Bob!

I take everything with a grain of salt. I assumed they planted some random articles of clothing on the floor for Josie to pick up. I don't believe antything I see on "reality TV". I remember on the show "clean house" the bedrooms always had an unmade bed with dresser drawers open & clothes strewn about. It looked like someone from the show spent a few minutes messing up the room before the TV crew walked in. The only one I believe is Hoarders. You can't make up 1 ft of dog poo & moldy, rotting food in the house.

[Absolom]

 

It's called a damn HAMPER people.  Or a laundry basket.  Or a lousy cardboard box.  Hell, designate a corner for piling up dirty clothes if that is the best you can do.  Because if the youngest child in the house is old enough to be the one to push around a laundry cart collecting dirty clothes, then everyone else in that damn house is old enough to place dirty clothes in a receptacle designated for that purpose.  Especially Jim Bob!

I tend to agree with the OP who said it's staged.  They built that laundry shoot so it would all land in the laundry room  They must have forgotten that they showed us kids sending laundry down it and it landing in a basket at the bottom.  I hope for Josie's sake her laundry patrol is limited to only a few random pieces that get missed.  

[EarlGreyTea]

What a god-awful boring effing gift for Jessa and Ben: a curtain. I know it's the thought that counts but that shitty mobile Anna and Josh gave to Jill and Derick was equally lame.

 

The curtain is at least plain and not kiddie looking like the mobile. I'm surprised Anna didn't have them put their handprints on the curtain or something, but it's at least something Jessa and Ben could actually use. I don't know that the mobile will be used.

[MarysWetBar]

Lately, the sight of Josie doing anything pretty much guarantees I don't regret watching this show. The way she was bombing around bouncing off the walls with that cart made me howl for some reason. Her barking like a dog and her THs in general...I dunno. I am fascinated by the enigma which has been purposed to be"Miracle".

Did anyone else notice the wall in the boys' room? Just totally thrashed with the metal screws or rods or whatever the hell holds a tinkertown house up showing.

Who was the hottie Duggar? He almost looked a bit like LPBW's Jeremy- curly blonde hair, nice looking boy. The one who pulled bathroom duty, which was kind of hilarious after he said it was the worst jurisdiction to have.

MEchelle showing off at TSODRT- that was TOTALLY( thanks Jilly!) an FU moment to us all.

So far, they have basically tried to reverse every stereotype they have been accused of; we need to up this game!

Maybe we can get Jana out with some people her own age, or perhaps FORCE MEchelle to handle her own kids for a whole weekend while the rest of them go off into the wilderness. I need Josie at home with MEchelle though, cus that would add to my viewing pleasure.

And NO Jill or Jessa over "visiting".

Edited April 8, 2015 by MarysWetBar

[Celia Rubenstein]

 

I assumed they planted some random articles of clothing on the floor for Josie to pick up.

If you are right, that means Michelle Duggar conspired with production to intentionally place stinky dirty socks etc around the house for the Miracle Tot to pick up and handle on camera on purpose.  I think that may actually be worse than Josie doing it all on her own, lol!  

 

Personally, I wouldn't want anyone to think my husband left his smelly socks on the carpet next to the bed like a slob and I would not have staged the scene that way.  Maybe Josie could collect a couple of towels from the bathroom or something to fake a cutesie scene.  But good taste has never been Michelle's strong suit, so dirty socks it is.  Oy. 

[zenme]

I wouldn't let small kids like Michael and Marcus around things like small needles and pins, then again I was freaking out by the iron in use in close proximity. (I know of 2 small babies accidentally burned by an iron.)

[GEML]

Dirty socks or underwear next to the bed is a staple in stories at Christian women's retreats. I think even Michelle Obama mentioned it during the 2008 campaign. I just sort of assumed that's why they were there - sort of saying, "See? We really are just like all of you." Now whether they were planted or not....

Edited April 8, 2015 by GEML

[BitterApple]

Zenme, I damn near had a heart attack when Michael put his hands near the running needle. Although I think he was too young for the activity, I did like that Anna included both kids in the "wimmin's work." It gives me hope for their future, lol.

[DangerousMinds]

Joy assigned girls to clean the boys' bedroom? That doesn't seem right to me. Some of their towels and sheets must be disgusting. Some of the boys are adolescents, after all. . . .

[Wellfleet]

Hey Michelle Im sure Bubba would love it if you shut up.

 

Just me or do those birthing classes seem like they would be so awkward with Derek? Also, a skirt over pants? Really? What would posses you to do such a thing

 

Hey, at the rate Me-chelle's voice is climbing, pretty soon Bubba will be the only one who's able to hear her. Poor dog...

[Wellfleet]

The birthing class was creepy. It was like watching a pregnancy porn orgy or something. I still don't see any chemistry between Jill and Derick. They look like a couple who got pregnant off a one night stand and are forcing themselves to make a relationship work. I find them to be very unnatural with one another.

 

Very apt description of the Jill-Derick vibe - that's exactly how they've come off to me as well. Maybe because - basically - that's what they are. Virtual strangers who knew very little about each other, got pregnant, then got married. Only in their case, they did do the wedding first. But just barely...

Edited April 8, 2015 by Wellfleet

[OpieTaylor]

I thought it was interesting how Jill gave Derek such an annoyed look when he was trying to joke around a bit, during the birthing class. They even said they've had some discussions about his tendency to try to be funny, and she apparently doesn't like it - at least not in all situations. So does that mean that Derek is already getting on Jill's nerves a bit? Or that Jill is taking herself way too seriously?

 

I thought Bubba was adorable and a very good sport. 

 

While Mack (don't know how to spell her full name) seems quite smart, her voice still sounds really babyish for a 5-year-old. Or am I just too far past that age (with my own kids) to remember what kindergartners sound like?

[EarlGreyTea]

I thought it was interesting how Jill gave Derek such an annoyed look when he was trying to joke around a bit, during the birthing class. They even said they've had some discussions about his tendency to try to be funny, and she apparently doesn't like it - at least not in all situations. So does that mean that Derek is already getting on Jill's nerves a bit? Or that Jill is taking herself way too seriously?

 

Yeah that was a nice little bit of realism there. She did look annoyed. It was interesting to see this deviation from her usual keep sweet self. I actually thought he was annoying too, but I'm not married to him and don't have it drilled into me to adore your man all the time. I guess it depends on what your sense of humor is like when you're in intense pain. I become really irritable, and I wonder if Jill does too.

Edited April 8, 2015 by EarlGreyTea

[riverblue22]

Anna was nuts to have those little kids around a sewing machine.  I started sewing around 8 and could understand at that point about the dangerous needle.  Also, the iron and ironing board looked like a dangerous situation.  You just never know when a little kid is just going to jump up and run off somewhere and heaven forbid they knock into the ironing board!   There have got to be safer ideas for a Jessa and Ben gift.

[DangerousMinds]

I'm sure there are things about Jilly Muff that are starting to annoy Derick now as well. People usually discover these things before marriage. Hopefully they will learn to communicate well and work though them, but neither has had any previous relationship experience.

[Wellfleet]

I thought it was interesting how Jill gave Derek such an annoyed look when he was trying to joke around a bit, during the birthing class. They even said they've had some discussions about his tendency to try to be funny, and she apparently doesn't like it - at least not in all situations. So does that mean that Derek is already getting on Jill's nerves a bit? Or that Jill is taking herself way too seriously?

 

I thought Bubba was adorable and a very good sport. 

 

While Mack (don't know how to spell her full name) seems quite smart, her voice still sounds really babyish for a 5-year-old. Or am I just too far past that age (with my own kids) to remember what kindergartners sound like?

 

Yeah, I don't think Jill has the slightest trace of a sense of humor. Not really surprising when you think of how she grew up. So I can "totally" see her being annoyed by a funny Derick. And I agree that Mack - I don't know how they spell her name either and I kind of like calling a girl "Mack" - does sounds a bit immature for a five-year old, but not that much overall. Which is explained by the way she's been spoken to most of her life. Children speak what they hear...

Edited April 8, 2015 by Wellfleet

[CarolMK]

The curly haired blonde Duggar teen is Jeremiah, I think he's either 16 or 17, and the twin to Jedidiah.  

I agree that Mackynsie has a speech impediment, she can't prounounce r's, so she sounds like Elmer Fudd. She should really be getting speech therapy for it, my son dated a girl who had the same impediment..it's cute at 5, not cute at all by 17. 

Josie is hilarious. I think she's going to have an outgoing, strong personality. Heaven help Jim Bob and Michelle as they approach 60 with her as a teenager!

The doggie bath proves that the producers are grasping at straws for storylines on anything that doesn't involve courting, weddings , or pregnancies/new babies. Jim Bob better find suitable mates for Jana and John David in the next 2 years if he wants the show to stay on the air. Everyone else, with the possible exception of Jinger, is too young to marry (in my opinion).

[Absolom]

Ratings are in:  2.287 M viewers and a .7 rating.

[Jenniferbug]

I actually liked the realism of Jill telling Derick that joking while she was in labor was probably not a good idea. I think it's a good thing that she felt comfortable communicating that to him in advance. My husband tends to ramble a lot when he's nervous. I remember when I was in labor and contractions were getting pretty rough, he was talking nonstop at one point and I looked at him and reminded him that I loved him and knew he was nervous, but really needed him to calm down a bit so I could focus and stay calm.

[bigskygirl]

-Should we just rename the show FU!!! Internet posters We Will Show You Who is Right!!!

 

-I felt so bad for the dog. Run Bubba Run!!!

 

-Anna with the kids sewing up a present for Ben and Jessa. How totally awesome, special, blessing, season of life moment for her and the kids. Yawn  zzzzzzz.....

 

-Derick, and Jill, and the "positions"  So many comments to make, but I will not post any of them.

 

-Michelle and her talking down to Josie. Why am I picturing a moment in the future where Josie cannot take it anymore and goes postal on Michelle.

 

-Why would someone want to take a sniff of dirty laundry. Gross and ewwwww....

 

And next week we are getting a how the Duggars put together a wedding episode. I will not know how I will survive the long wait for this awesome, special, surreal, totally blessed television event. Btw, I know I should be ashamed of myself, but I did enjoy the birds going after Benjerman and Jessa in the previews.

[GEML]

What about Anna admitting they hung Josh's bathrobe over their front door for how many years? I thought that was sad and hilarious. It's also classic in the DC sense to show how far you've come while still show how modest your beginnings were. Well played, Anna.

[Cherrio]

Joy assigned girls to clean the boys' bedroom? That doesn't seem right to me. Some of their towels and sheets must be disgusting. Some of the boys are adolescents, after all. . . .

OMG    REEBOCK !        

[Quof]

Joy assigned girls to clean the boys' bedroom? That doesn't seem right to me.

 

You're not expecting boys to clean, are you?   As I learned in my youth as the scullery maid while my brother the Little Prince sat on his throne, a peen gets in the way and precludes males from cleaning.