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Carey

Carey

12 minutes ago, Mittengirl said:

Has Tampa gone back to being the Devil Rays or are they just wearing throwback jerseys today?

No and no.  According to an article I found online, it's every Friday they're at home, in addition to opening day.  25 years in MLB for the 2008 & 2020 League Champions.

Anyway, smells like 68 wins for the 1960 fall classic winners.  Not those actual players, just the same franchise.  

I'll go 68-94 for Pittsburgh. Sure things can be very good to where it's in the 70-win range. Or very bad at the 50-win range. 40-49 wins is a possibility, and given the chance at exceeding expectations, 80-wins can happen. 68 wins feels right at the end of the day.

One thing you have to factor in is that other teams are making improvements, and injuries are a part of sports. I might be generous saying 68 wins is accurate but sometimes things can benefit someone that's destined to lose, while a win is there but someone doesn't get it

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catlover79
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A's fans were still able to make their fury at the Astros known when the teams played in Oakland last night. They may not be physically allowed in the stadium, so they did the next best thing:

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I read that Houck said he was "bummed" that he would missing a start. Hmmm, if only there was something he could have done to make sure he could play in every park. 

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Lantern7

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@Carey . . . it’s 25 years for the Rays and Diamondbacks, thirty for the Rockies and Marlins. I remember the Marlins winning their first game in 1993. The Mets beat the Rockies at Shea . . . and that might have been the high point of the season.

I’m wondering if the Mets will acknowledge last season in their home opener. Sucks to win 101 games when none of them happened when they really needed it. I’m thinking Edwin Diaz will be in the pregame ceremonies. My question is whether they play “Narcos,” since the trumpets will be silent this year. Gotta play it, right?

cambridgeguy

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The ironic thing about any pitch clock complaining is that the rule was already on the books.  To quote: When the bases are unoccupied, the pitcher shall deliver the ball to the batter within 12 seconds after he receives the ball. Each time the pitcher delays the game by violating this rule, the umpire shall call “Ball.”  The 12-second timing starts when the pitcher is in possession of the ball and the batter is in the box, alert to the pitcher. The timing stops when the pitcher releases the ball.

So people aren't really complaining about the rule, they're complaining about it being enforced.

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JTMacc99

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On 4/1/2023 at 9:03 PM, mojoween said:

I can’t even.  The overhead views showed how many calls were strikes yet were actually well off the plate.

I heard a guy the other day call into a sports talk show, in this case about football, and he said that he was at a tennis event and all of the in/out calls were made by the Hawk-Eye computer system. It's apparently consistently accurate to within a few millimeters. 

From what I'm reading, MLB is likely to use the same Hawk-Eye technology starting next year to call balls and strikes. It sounds like they're going to have the computer make the call, whisper it in the umpire's ear, and then he will then make the call. I also read something where it might instead just be used as part of a replay review system that allows managers to challenge calls. 

I really hope it's not the challenge one. We're doing so much to make the game shorter, so why would we do something that immediately adds time back?

 

I'm not 100% in favor of this change. Maybe 95% in favor. The other 5% of me doesn't mind the human component messing things up in baseball. Since the beginning of the sport, baseball has had a component of players attempting to get around the rules. (They all love cheating.) So if you're a pitcher who discovers that the umpire is calling your pitches 2 inches off the plate strikes, then you'll spend the entire game trying to hit that spot. 

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Black Knight

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I think there will be plenty of humans messing things up in baseball regardless. The thing is that it's an enjoyable part of a sport when it's the player doing the messing up. That goes directly to their athletic ability and mental makeup, and it's literally part of the game play action - swinging and missing, not fielding that grounder, etc. It feels different when it's a referee or umpire making the mistake. They aren't the athletes, they're not the ones playing. Viewers watch sports to see the athletes succeed or fail, not the officials.

If computers do take over balls and strikes, I think any moaning or negative feelings will dissipate quickly. And there'll still be other situations in which to boo the umpires!

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JTMacc99

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3 hours ago, Black Knight said:

If computers do take over balls and strikes, I think any moaning or negative feelings will dissipate quickly. And there'll still be other situations in which to boo the umpires!

I think you're absolutely right on both things.

It'll be really hard to justify being annoyed that balls and strikes are being called consistently and correctly. 

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Calvada

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On 4/3/2023 at 9:14 AM, JTMacc99 said:

From what I'm reading, MLB is likely to use the same Hawk-Eye technology starting next year to call balls and strikes. It sounds like they're going to have the computer make the call, whisper it in the umpire's ear, and then he will then make the call.

Can they use it this year to test it out?  In games when C.B. Bucknor is behind home plate?  

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smittykins

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21 hours ago, Black Knight said:

If computers do take over balls and strikes, I think any moaning or negative feelings will dissipate quickly. And there'll still be other situations in which to boo the umpires!

I’m not so sure.  I can totally imagine someone bitching “It’s been calibrated wrong!”

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Salacious Kitty

Salacious Kitty

2 hours ago, mojoween said:

The pitch clock is still stupid and the shorter games are whatever, but the inflated and artificial stolen base totals are maddening.  Hamstringing the pitchers while basically giving carte blanche to runners does not make for better baseball.

Yeah, I don't get that part of the rule either. Only two throws to first? Ridiculous.

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Harry24

Harry24

7 hours ago, mojoween said:

An alert on my phone that Shohei Ohtani is the first batter and pitcher to get a pitch clock violation in the same game!

Shut. The fuck. Up.

A. the season is one week old.  B. he is the only pitcher/batter playing and with the new rules Position Player Pitching is going to be way reduced and C. that IS NOT NEWS.

MLB is just so pathetically thirsty these days.  Sigh.

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Moose135

Moose135

On 4/6/2023 at 5:23 AM, mojoween said:

An alert on my phone that Shohei Ohtani is the first batter and pitcher to get a pitch clock violation in the same game!

Shut. The fuck. Up.

A. the season is one week old.  B. he is the only pitcher/batter playing and with the new rules Position Player Pitching is going to be way reduced and C. that IS NOT NEWS.

You know, if we get rid of this silly designated hitter rule, we'll see more guys get a clock violation for both batting and pitching... 😉

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Fukui San

Fukui San

4 minutes ago, cambridgeguy said:

And before that, the 82 Braves also started 13-0 and did finish first in the NL West (no, that's not a typo) before being swept by the Cardinals.

It's a real oddity of sports geography that Atlanta had a baseball team and a football team that both were assigned to be in their sport's respective Western divisions for a good amount of time. At least the Basketball and Hockey leagues managed to place Atlanta in the Eastern part of the country.

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grommit2

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Argh...things are not looking so good for the BoSox.
I find it interesting that the BoSox stats folks determined that paying 30+ year old pitchers premium salaries was a waste of money, because, despite their prior stellar performances, once they hit 30+ they invariably declined.  Despite what the numbers said,  the BoSox paid both Price and Sale premium+ salaries, then got just a little bit out of Price, and really nothing from Sale.
And then they decided not to pay a proven performer (Xander), albeit not a pitcher, lost him to the Padres.  So, the question becomes, who is actually running this show?

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